Gap widening between Bush and conservatives

Townhall.com ^ | January 23, 2004 | Jonah Goldberg

[Lazamataz]

In other words, when you say things, you are just blowing smoke out of your exit orifice.

As we all are, when we predict the future.

However, I stand by my prediction.

I knew this post was going to put Energizers in all the 'Bots, but I never knew I would see phalanxes of them.

[Lazamataz]

Joe Citizen needs an assault weapon just in case he has to overthrow the government?

According to Thomas Jefferson, yes.

[RiflemanSharpe]

But, to be honest I have read JFK's domestic agenda during his term and he was more conservative the GWB is looking now. And that is just wrong!
Yes he was! But is there 'a sliding scale of conservatism' because of the disintegrating morality of this lame society? ;)


Like I said earlier I wish we had a Republican running in this election.

[Lazamataz]

Joe Citizen needs an assault weapon just in case he has to overthrow the government?

Of course in a world of tanks and jets and bio-weapons, it's a little more silly of a notion then it was in the 1700's.

[mr.pink]

Well... that is not really an answer.

I know. The point I was trying to make is that there countless things most folks do not "need", but are yet free to own.

I used the car analogy as a comparative of "excess". One cannot own an assualt weapon because of the speed of discharging rounds, yet one can own a car that can go 220 MPH even though one's restricted to driving no faster than 65 MPH.

I don't own an assualt weapon, but would not mind having one. There are nasty scenarios now in play (post 9-11) where an assualt rifle might be a pretty good thing to have.

[carton253]

Oh stop playing your silly games.

I am fully aware of what the 2nd Amendment says.

I am not looking to snatch your precious guns away from you.

I just wanted to know why a person needed an assault weapon... that's all.

If you can't answer it... then move on...

[KEVLAR]

Please define assault weapon.
If you ask BATF on a bad day they may tell you your daisy air BB rifle is an assault weapon.

[Lazamataz]

That said... can anyone tell me why anyone would need to own an assault weapon?

I knew it.

Scratch any given squishy Bushbot, and you'll invariably find a gungrabbing weenie.

[carton253]

According to Thomas Jefferson, yes.

Thank you for answering that. As good as reason as any I suppose. I'm not against citizens owning assault weapons. I just could never fathom why anyone would need one.

BTW, you aren't paramilitary, are you? :)

[KantianBurke]

Vote Dubya!

Because Jackbooted Thugs are just as loved by R's as D's!

[Petronski]

Say you. Say me.
Say it together. Naturally.

[em2vn]

"I do wish we had a republican running in this election." (SARCASM OFF)
How about a conservative?

[carton253]

Laz...

So, that's how the game is played by you.

When somone asks a question about your pet issue, you rush to judgement, call names, and lie about that person's position.

I'm not a squishy Bushbot... I'm not a gun grabbing weeine... so you can come out of your bunker. Your guns are safe from me.

I was just asking a question.

[Lazamataz]

That said... can anyone tell me why anyone would need to own an assault weapon?

I've answered this one a million times. Let's go for 1,000,001.

I compete in the DCM/CMP. It uses an army-standard qualifying proficiency course in its competition. Usually, the venerable M1-Garand from world war II or the slightly newer M1-A with the detachable box magazine are used.

These are fine competition weapons, not so-called 'assault weapons' as gungrabbing weenies would call them.

Some people are gun collectors. I was until recently. I was starting a collection of semiauto copies of military weapons of the world.

Assault weapons are full-auto weapons. The semi-autos that are being banned are not full auto and only LOOK like the full-auto versions. Because they cause you to pee your pants in fright should in no way impact my ownership of them.

[Phaedrus]

...conservatives - as opposed to partisan Republicans - have sincere misgivings about the kind of presidency Bush is conducting.

Yes.

[carton253]

I don't have a problem with you owning 10 of them. I was just hoping for more an answer than "mommy said I can." I have to face these kind of questions all the time. I just wanted to have more meat to my answers than the 2nd Amendment...which is a pretty strong reason except when dealing with Liberal Professors.

[em2vn]

The term "assault weapon" as used here is incorrect. A true "assaultd weapon" is a military combat weapon that can be fired on full automatic.
"Assault weapons" as discussed here are only capable of firing on semi-automatic, pull the trigger and one shot is fired. This means of firing has been available to Americans for over one hundred years.

[Lazamataz]

When somone asks a question about your pet issue, you rush to judgement, call names, and lie about that person's position. I'm not a squishy Bushbot... I'm not a gun grabbing weeine... so you can come out of your bunker. Your guns are safe from me.

Okay, I take it back, that and the pee-pants comment. :o)

(It's just that gun grabbers really piss me off.)

[Cannoneer No. 4]

Conservatives may as well learn to enjoy bending over and grabbing our ankles while the Republicans do unto us like the 'rats do the blacks. Where are we going to go?

The short man with the big ears taught me the folly of thinking I had any choice, other than how fast this hand basket gets to hell. Republicans will get us there slower. The ultimate destination remains the same.

[BlackbirdSST]

Why should he alienate his base by gutting the First Amendment with CFR?

We're not his base.

Why should he alienate his base by declaring "Open Border Season"?

We're not his base.

Why should he alienate his base by signing massive new prescription drug benefits?

We're not his base.

Why should he alienate his base by proposing Universal Hillary Care?

Sorry Laz, just repeating the mantra, we're not his base. Blackbird.