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To: SauronOfMordor
What I've been arguing against all along, are the generalizations being thrown about, the most prevalent of which is that Islam is inherently evil.

The moment that I point out that most Muslims live in areas where Sharia laws are NOT enforced, and that the vast majority of Muslim extremism is concentrated in countries that have been more often the target of terrorism, than sponsors of it, the generalizations sputter.

I did not list countries with "some percentage" of Muslims, my list showed that most Muslims live outside the region at fault for 99% of all Islamic extremist terrorism.

What makes Turkey different, is the Western-style secularism...that's what Muslim extremists are fighting, the spread of Western secularism leading to more Muslims countries like Turkey.

If that's what they fear most, the spread of Western secularism, then that should be our primary weapon against them.

What we must NOT do, is launch Western Christian fundamentalism at Muslim extremism...no one will win that war.

199 posted on 01/25/2004 5:16:34 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez (The Gift Is To See The Trout.)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
What makes Turkey different, is the Western-style secularism...that's what Muslim extremists are fighting, the spread of Western secularism leading to more Muslims countries like Turkey.

Yes. Secularism. The state of affairs where the people, although technically Muslim, no longer really care much about Islam, are not interested in living according to Sharia law, and have no interest in taking part in Jihaad.

In other words, no longer Muslims in anything but name

You just made my point. Thank you.

205 posted on 01/25/2004 5:24:21 PM PST by SauronOfMordor (No anchovies!)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
Its always a good idea to remember that we launched our attacks on Afghanistan and Iraq with the aid of Muslim states, and from the territory of muslim states, and from bases in muslim states.

Its also good to realize that we defeated the Taliban with Muslim armies.

It is true that the average muslim finds it difficult to reject Wahabism, simply because it seems to him a purer form of the religion he was taught from his birth. But once he has been the victim of it, he is usually looking for an ally to free him from it. Thats where we can come in.

The trick is to drive a wedge between the Wahabists, and the muslim fascists, and the great mass of muslims. If we want to fight all billion of them at once, I'm sure that can be arranged, but its much easier to fight those specific ones we really must fight with the aid of other muslims who fear them.

People often have a hard time recognizing evil when it comes in a familiar package, or when it seems to represent values they also hold. This is why many Europeans supported Hitler, because he wasn't communist, and many others supported the communists, because they weren't fascists.

We had to learn to find allies where we could find them, using the communists to defeat the Nazis, and occasionally using fascists to defeat the communists. Because you have to defeat both of them, and you can't wait until the perfect ally comes along to help you. If you wait for the perfect ally, you lose.

If you exploit divisions among your enemies, and if you find those people among your enemy who reject them like you do, you make the way for them to join you. No point in questioning their motives too closely, if they aren't pure you can deal with that later.

And anyway, an imperfect ally that is willing to let you base your army on his soil is worth far more than a perfect ally that wants to run you around in circles before the Security Council.
218 posted on 01/25/2004 7:27:41 PM PST by marron
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