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Bush 'Desertion' Charge Debunked
NewsMax ^ | 1/24/04 | Limbacher

Posted on 01/24/2004 12:31:13 PM PST by Tumbleweed_Connection

Did President Bush "desert" the military, as radical filmmaker Michael Moore insists he did?

Presidential candidate Gen. Wesley Clark suggested during New Hampshire's presidential debate Thursday night that the facts of whether Bush ran out on his National Guard unit in 1972 and 1973 are in dispute.

But in the months before the 2000 presidential election, the New York Times pretty much demolished this Democratic Party urban legend, a myth that first surfaced in its sister paper, the Boston Globe.

"For a full year, there is no record that Bush showed up for the periodic drills required of part-time guardsmen," the Globe insisted in May 2000, in a report Mr. Moore currently cites on his web site to rebut ABC newsman Peter Jennings' debate challenge to Clark that the story is "unsupported by the facts."

"I don't know whether [Moore's desertion charge] is supported by the facts or not," Clark replied "I've never looked at it."

The Times did, however, look at it, and found that Bush had indeed served during the part of the time the Globe had him AWOL - and later made up whatever time he missed after requesting permission for the postponement.

In July 2000 the Times noted that Bush's chief accuser in the Globe report, retired Gen. William Turnipseed, had begun to back way from his story that Bush never appeared for service during the time in question.

"In a recent interview," said the Times, "[Turnipseed] took a tiny step back, saying, 'I don't think he did, but I wouldn't stake my life on it." In fact, military records obtained by the Times showed that Turnipseed was wrong and that the Globe had flubbed the story.

"A review by The Times showed that after a seven-month gap, he appeared for duty in late November 1972 at least through July 1973," the paper noted on Nov. 3, 2000.

The Times explained:

"On Sept. 5, 1972, Mr. Bush asked his Texas Air National Guard superiors for assignment to the 187th Tactical Recon Group in Montgomery [Alabama] 'for the months of September, October and November,'" so Bush could manage the Senate campaign of Republican Winton Blount.

"Capt. Kenneth K. Lott, chief of the personnel branch of the 187th Tactical Recon Group, told the Texas commanders that training in September had already occurred but that more training was scheduled for Oct. 7 and 8 and Nov. 4 and 5."

After the Bush AWOL story had percolated for months, Col. Turnipseed finally remembered another glitch in his story: the fact that National Guard regulations allowed Guard members to miss duty as long as it was made up within the same quarter.

And, in fact - according to the Times - that's what Bush did.

"A document in Mr. Bush's military records," the paper said, "showed credit for four days of duty ending Nov. 29 and for eight days ending Dec. 14, 1972, and, after he moved back to Houston, on dates in January, April and May."

The paper found corroboration for the document, noting, "The May dates correlated with orders sent to Mr. Bush at his Houston apartment on April 23, 1973, in which Sgt. Billy B. Lamar told Mr. Bush to report for active duty on May 1-3 and May 8-10."

Yet another document obtained by the Times blew the Bush AWOL story out of the water.

It showed that Mr. Bush served at various times from May 29, 1973, through July 30, 1973 - "a period of time questioned by The Globe," the Times sheepishly admitted.



TOPICS: Front Page News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2004; awol; bds; bush; clark; desertion; desetion; nh
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To: walkman
All this does is highlight Kerry's record (like him or not, he has wounds to prove it).
What?  Kerry was in the military?  Are you sure?  What branch?  When?  First I've heard of it... you think he'd mention it from time to time if that's the case...
 
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22 posted on 01/24/2004 12:53:02 PM PST by End Times Sentinel ("So what are you going to do, vote for a Democrat? BWAHAHAHAHAHA!"- Karl Rove.)
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To: backhoe
George Bush was a fighter pilot in the Air National Guard. Flying jets is dangerous job and historically, aviators have had a much higher mortality rate than ground forces during wartime. I would not characterize his decision as less than heroic.
23 posted on 01/24/2004 12:53:33 PM PST by Dan Evans
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Bookmarked for the edification of the union kooks and loons at my workplace.

Who am I kidding? They would believe that Bush eats babies for breakfast if the AFL-CIO told them to.
24 posted on 01/24/2004 12:55:11 PM PST by petuniasevan (America will never seek a permission slip to defend the security of our country - George W. Bush)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Turnipseed? Indeed!
25 posted on 01/24/2004 12:55:51 PM PST by latrans
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To: walkman
Well .. you can support Kerry if you want .. but his little "sleep in" on the lawn of the White House (where he blamed Nixon for sending him to war - which is a lie), Mr. Kerry did NOT SLEEP IN A TENT ON THE LAWN .. HE SLEPT IN A VERY POST WASHINGTON HOTEL. The guy is a phoney from one end to the other.

It's fine if this issue comes out about Bush .. and all we have to do is shove the NYT article in their faces .. and eventually word will get around that IT WASN'T BUSH WHO LIED IT WAS KERRY!!
26 posted on 01/24/2004 12:56:52 PM PST by CyberAnt ("America is the GREATEST NATION on the face of the earth")
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28 posted on 01/24/2004 12:56:59 PM PST by Mo1 (Join the dollar a day crowd now!)
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To: Montfort
Funny how the story debunking this myth is not as well traveled as the urban myth that crats keep citing as fact.

Just about all of the lies and myths to demonrats try to push on people get more mileage than the TRUTH.

Think - tax cuts for the rich, hunger and poverty, the heterosexual AIDS epidemic, abortion as a healthy "choice", all criminals can be rehabilitated, Bush lied to go to war, big business is the enemy of the people, etc, etc, etc...

31 posted on 01/24/2004 1:00:23 PM PST by bolobaby
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To: walkman
I'm sure that makes you happy. Aren't you backing Kerry?
32 posted on 01/24/2004 1:01:03 PM PST by stands2reason
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Bump for use against liberal swine.
33 posted on 01/24/2004 1:01:28 PM PST by Poser
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To: walkman
Your point is quite valid...that's where any Dimokratzki candidate will have an advantage...the media will cover for him...hide, obfuscate and glorify his record.

That's why I don't much think it matter which dwarf gets the nod...Dubya will be running more against the machine than the man.

I rage against the machine.
34 posted on 01/24/2004 1:01:42 PM PST by jwfiv
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To: jwfiv
Don't feed the troll.
35 posted on 01/24/2004 1:03:07 PM PST by stands2reason
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Bump
36 posted on 01/24/2004 1:04:50 PM PST by Genyous
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To: backhoe
What is Michael Moore's military record?
37 posted on 01/24/2004 1:06:01 PM PST by woofie
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To: walkman
Kerry may have wounds from Vietnam, but he also has a freakishly liberal voting record from years in the Senate, and a lovely record as the Lt. Gov. under Dukakis. These are much more relevant than whether one fought in Vietnam.
38 posted on 01/24/2004 1:06:21 PM PST by ilgipper
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To: Dog Anchor
Clark also said this morning that he would do away with the "don't ask, don't tell"....gays should be in the military!!!! As I said ...he's CERTIFIABLE!!
39 posted on 01/24/2004 1:08:11 PM PST by Ann Archy
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To: jwfiv
Did you ever see the Simpsons where Principal Skinner flashses back go his days as a POW in Vietnam. He has a guy under his charge that tries to make an escape while the guards are distracted by a Jane Fonda concert. It was hilarious.
40 posted on 01/24/2004 1:08:31 PM PST by OneTimeLurker
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