[backhoe]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/906471/posts

The Truth About "George W. Bush's Resume"
Curt King

The Real Military Record of George W. Bush: Not Heroic, but Not AWOL, Either

[Peach]

Saved for election time; it will need to be debunked AGAIN.

[Ann Archy]

Weasley Clark is CERTIFIABLE...just like his idol, Michael Moore.

[WinOne4TheGipper]

Related thread from Oct. 2000.

[Cubs Fan]

I knew the day I heard this AWOL stuff that it had to be BS. There's no way a media that hates GWB would keep silent the way it did.

And indeed the Times, one of the most blatently liberal, if not THE most blatently liberal publication around, debunks the myth.

Michael Moore is once again revealed for the Big Fat liar he is.

[Sloth]

Bookmarked for future reference.

[Hillarys Gate Cult]

I like how morons jump up and down and scream "There's no record of it". 1971 through 1973 are the worst years to search for military records because the high number of returning troops from Vietnam overloaded the admin system. Plenty of paper got lost then.

[bolobaby]

It's called "SUTA" - Substitute Unit Training Assembly. National guardsmen SUTA drills *all the time*. It's a mechanism that was put into place because the Guard understands that being a civilian and a soldier at the same time sometimes produces conflicts.

I can't think of a single guardsman I know who hasn't SUTAed a drill before - including myself.

[Montfort]

Funny how the story debunking this myth is not as well traveled as the urban myth that crats keep citing as fact.

[petuniasevan]

Bookmarked for the edification of the union kooks and loons at my workplace.

Who am I kidding? They would believe that Bush eats babies for breakfast if the AFL-CIO told them to.

[latrans]

Turnipseed? Indeed!

[Mo1]

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[Poser]

Bump for use against liberal swine.

[Genyous]

Bump

[IrishCatholic]

Thanks, saved for later

[TruthShallSetYouFree]

Presidential candidate Gen. Wesley Clark suggested during New Hampshire's presidential debate Thursday night that the facts of whether Bush ran out on his National Guard unit in 1972 and 1973 are in dispute.

"The facts are in dispute" is another cowardly phrase that democrats love to use. All it takes is one looney out there to make an unsubstantiated negative assertion, or more cowardly still, say they saw it on the internet and "the facts are in dispute." Ninety-nine million people can understand a set of facts, but, if one crazy partisan denies them, then, "the facts are in dispute."

Call me crazy, but what that phrase means to me is that there is a genuine difference of opinion with substantial backing and evidence for each side of an issue.

It would be slanderous to say that it was Wesley Clark and not Michael Jackson who molested a young boy. I know that this statement is patently false. But, someone cruising the internet could take the phrase (marked in bold) and write in to his local paper. "Hey, it says on the internet that it was Wesley Clark and not Michael Jackson who molested a young boy.

Then, George Bush could tell Tim Russert that, although he doesn't really know what happened in the case of the molested boy, the facts are in dispute. One group says that the perpetrator is Michael Jackson. Another says it's Wesley Clark. A third says the boy was molested by someone else. A fourth says he wasn't molested at all.

This type of attack is what passes, in the democrat party, as honest discourse. That spinning sound is not merely caused by the democrats' massaging the truth. It is also caused by George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, and James Madison, spinning in their graves.

[my_pointy_head_is_sharp]

Peter Jennings' debate challenge to Clark that the story is "unsupported by the facts"

I saw the Peter Jennings' exchange with Wesley Clark, and I must say that I was perplexed. Jennings, a liberal who has bashed Bush in the past, is now defending Bush??? Props to Jennings.

[Zeroisanumber]

Wait...Is this Newsmax? Are they actually quoting the NY Times as a credible source?

[pabianice]

Military paperwork is infamously bad. The Navy discharged me... while I was serving in good standing in the Reserves. Came as a shock, I can tell you. Took a year to get the paperwork squared away again.

Beyond that, drill rescheds are the norm in the air reserves, not the exception.

[DeweyCA]

Does anyone know what is the exact date of the original NYT article, and on what page? Precise documentation will make our case stronger.

[aculeus]

Needs bumping!

[freeangel]

So, why does turpinseed get to keep the use of co. in front of his name?--or is his memory return akin to a retraction published in the comic strip section?

[Kaslin]

If the dumbocRats believe running on gossip will help them, they are greatly mistaken

[Ciexyz]

We're turning into a nation where half of us doubt the veracity of the other half. I for one don't trust anything pushed by the liberal paper in my area, the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette.

[Himyar]

Once again this garbage surfaces. The 187th was my husband's unit and is now my son's. My husband served in this unit for 35 years, including the period in question. It was a time of great confusion, but if Bush says he was there, he was. No one, least of all, Turnipseed, is going to remember some lowly Lt. from the Texas guard. Bush was nobody in the great scheme of things back then. If the Dems decide to make a big deal of this again, they'd better find someone other than "Turnip" to carry their water. He is notorius for being forgetful, sometimes in very dangerous ways.

[LoudRepublicangirl]

If a fart could take human form it would look like Michael Moore.

[Twinkie]

We received a mailing from Bob Barr today. He
says that Hillary is gearing up to run this time.
It sounded like there was some speculation about
them using Wesley Clark to help them accomplish
this. Barr said this country could not survive
another Clinton presidency. Although he didn't
specifically say it, I wonder if it will end up
being some cutesy thing like a Clinton/Clark ticket.

[Arpege92]

read later

[Democratshavenobrains]

The DUers will never accept this. Otherwise, they would have to admit that they were snookered by some idiot from the Boston Globe for 4 years.

[gg188]

This is just a little off the subject, but.....Put General Clark beside General Powell. I have never been a big fan of Colin's, but the contrast is stark: a weasel and loose cannon on the one hand, and a mature, respected, dignified man on the other.

[Mr. Thorne]

Bump.

[Green Knight]

Ping.

[Strider]

I still can't believe that Peter Jennings asked Clark the question, especially the way he did - Unsubstantiated, etc.

P.S.
Michael Moore is a big fat idiot.

[alphadog]

"National Guard regulations allowed Guard members to miss duty as long as it was made up within the same quarter.

True, I've done it myself...

[tlb]

I can't find the quoted N Y Times story online.

[bushfamfan]

Well, can we get the record straight? The accusation of Bush going AWOL is STILL repeated to this day and the Bushies have to get on this right now and set them straight. There is no reason why they should continue to repeat the charge in people's ignorance. It's slander.

[sonofatpatcher2]

W Ping...

[Lady In Blue]

Thanks! Bookmarking for future battles!

[AHerald]

Timely bump.

[Mr. Mojo]

"I don't know whether [Moore's desertion charge] is supported by the facts or not," Clark replied

But do you know what is supported by the facts, Weasley? ....That you were relieved of your command in the Balkans due to issues of "character and integrity."