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Orange Growers Irked by Low-Carb Diets
Associated Press via Yahoo! News ^ | January 21, 2004 | MIKE SCHNEIDER

Posted on 01/24/2004 5:05:38 PM PST by PJ-Comix

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To: PJ-Comix
It is amazing what a little exercise will do to the waistline.

Trajan88

51 posted on 01/24/2004 7:00:37 PM PST by Trajan88 (www.bullittclub.com)
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To: Mr. Mojo
I think it is more then a fad. I think studies started showing that it had alot of good affects on health and as people started hearing this on the news they decided to try it.

Before that many were convinced that it couldn't be good for you because they have been brainwashed by the low fat propaganda.

I recommend "Dr Atkins Age -Defying Diet". Alot of good information in it.
52 posted on 01/24/2004 7:01:20 PM PST by Delphinium
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To: finnman69
"but saturated fat will clog your arteries and give you heart problems."

ONLY if consumed with carbohydrate.

Unless you get an the carb metabolizing insulin spike, it doesn't happen.

Atkins was a Cardiologist, btw, with his medical degree from Cornell. How about you?
53 posted on 01/24/2004 7:02:55 PM PST by adam_az (Be vewy vewy qwiet, I'm hunting weftists.)
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To: adam_az
the best diet I ever went on let me eat fruit salad for lunch every day including a bag of peanuts M&Ms.

I worked out very day and drank a lot of water. 30lbs in 3 months. And it stayed off. Exercise is king, and I can still eat bread, pizza potatoes, ice cream, spaghetti...

I tried Atkins once...it all comes back if you go off. No fun..much easier to exercise more and eat what i want.
54 posted on 01/24/2004 7:03:26 PM PST by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestus globus, inflammare animos)
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To: antaresequity
I have hypoglycemia and I low-carb (Atkins) to keep my blood sugars steady. Losing and maintaining my ideal weight is just a bonus. It's been almost 2 years since I started. OJ isn't "health nectar" to my system. If I drank it, my endocrinologist would probably try to strangle me if I weren't already comatose from the blood sugar crash.

55 posted on 01/24/2004 7:04:16 PM PST by grimalkin ("Everyone feels benevolent if nothing happens to be annoying him at the moment." -C.S. Lewis)
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To: adam_az
well I have degree from Cornell topop, and my doctor says cut the aturated fats if you want a healthy heart..Atkins died fat
56 posted on 01/24/2004 7:04:26 PM PST by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestus globus, inflammare animos)
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To: adam_az
LOL! touche...

I'm reading the Adkins book and am completely impressed with the information in it. Most of it is common sense. Most of it is what diabetics have know for some time...I'm diabetic so I know first hand what carbs can do...I hate them!

I was amazed to learn that by 2025 that America will most likely have three hundred million diabetic's with the current refined food fads.

57 posted on 01/24/2004 7:06:44 PM PST by hope
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To: Mr. Mojo
"My dad followed it to the letter and his cholesterol went from 200 to 300 in one month. ....and his doctor told him that his case was far from unusual."

I guess I can only take your word for it that he followed it "to the letter."

According to clinical studies that have been done, though, his case was very unusual.

http://atkins.com/Archive/2001/12/18-292461.html

Of the many misconceptions that surround the Atkins Nutritional ApproachTM, perhaps the most widespread is the assumption that eating foods high in fat is a health risk. Not so—in the absence of refined carbohydrates.

Fallacy: A nutritional approach that promotes a liberal intake of high-fat meats and dairy products will raise cholesterol levels, ultimately leading to heart disease.
Fact: It is true that every major health organization, as well as the U.S. government, endorses a low-fat diet in the unquestioned belief that fat causes heart disease. But are they right? A good deal of compelling evidence points in the opposite direction.

A growing body of scientific literature demonstrates that a controlled carbohydrate eating plan, if followed correctly, promotes heart health and improves clinical health markers. One study, conducted by Jeff S. Volek, M.S., R.D., Ph.D., while at Ball State University, showed the positive effects of a controlled carbohydrate nutritional approach on triglyceride levels. The study consisted of 12 healthy men, ages 20 to 55, who followed a controlled carbohydrate program adhering to the Atkins protocols for eight weeks. Upon completion of the study, each participant lowered his triglyceride levels by an average of 55 percent1.

Furthermore, this study showed that a higher-carbohydrate diet results in increased levels of triglycerides and decreased levels of HDL ("good") cholesterol. These factors have been associated with higher risks of myocardial infarction, ischemic heart disease and coronary heart-disease events2. In addition, various researchers have demonstrated that high triglycerides and low HDL alone—as opposed to the total cholesterol number most of us focus on—may be the most important factors in heart disease and stroke3-7.

We also can look at the research that's come out of Framingham, Mass. (the community studied for 50 years by Harvard researchers), to glean meaningful information about the cause of heart disease. This research showed that the risk of heart disease increased both with high cholesterol levels and obesity, but their data showed that weight gain and cholesterol levels were inversely correlated with dietary fat and cholesterol intake. In other words, consuming less fat and cholesterol resulted in more weight gain and higher blood cholesterol.

More recently, the Framingham researchers reported on a study in which the young, healthy, male population of the community was followed for several decades to see which dietary patterns might lead to having a stroke. To their amazement, they found that those with the highest intake of saturated fats had the fewest ischemic strokes (the most common kinds), a whopping 76 percent less than those with the lowest intake of saturated fat8 .

Fallacy: Atkins is high in fat, and we all know that fats cause gallbladder disease.
Fact: There is now overwhelming scientific evidence that gallstones (responsible for more than 90 percent of gallbladder disease are formed when fat intake is low. In a study that examined the effects of a diet that provided 27 grams of fat per day, gallstones developed in 13 percent of the participants9. The reason is that the gallbladder will not contract unless fat is taken in, and if it doesn't contract, a condition called biliary stasis develops and the bile salts crystallize into stones. Our gallbladders need to be kept active to prevent stone formation.

It is not uncommon to find gallstones in people who are obese, although the gallstones may not be causing discomfort. People with existing stones may, however, have trouble with high-fat meals. If you are one of these people you may have to slowly increase the level of fat you eat according to your own tolerance—meaning, how you feel. Remember, gallstones are not formed overnight. So anyone who tells you they started doing Atkins and two weeks later developed gallstones doesn't fully understand the medical situation.

Selected References

1 Sharman, M.J., Volek, J.S., Gómez, A.L., et al., "Fasting and Postprandial Lipoprotein Responses to a Ketogenic Diet," May 31-June 2, 2001, Abstract of the 48th Annual American College of Sports Medicine Conference, Abstract #3295, Baltimore, MD.

2 Gillman, M.W., Cupples, L.A., Millen, B.E., et al., "Inverse Association of Dietary Fat With Development of Ischemic Stroke in Men," Journal of the American Medical Association, 278(24), 1997, pages 2145-2150.

3 Gaziano, J.M., Hennekens, C.H., O'Donnell, C.J., et al., "Fasting Triglycerides, High-Density Lipoprotein, and Risk of Myocardial Infarction," Circulation, 96(8), 1997, pages 2520-2525.

4 Austin, M.A., Hokanson, J.E., Edwards, K.L., "Hypertriglyceridemia as a Cardiovascular Risk Factor," The American Journal of Cardiology, 81(4A), 1998, pages 7B-12B.

5 Pieke, B., von Eckardstein, A., Gülbahce, E., et al., "Treatment of Hypertriglyceridemia by Two Diets Rich Either in Unsaturated Fatty Acids or in Carbohydrates: Effects on Lipoprotein Subclasses, Lipolytic Enzymes, Lipid Transfer Proteins, Insulin and Leptin," International Journal of Obesity and Related Metabolic Disorders, 24(10), 2000, pages 1286-1296.

6 Abbasi, F., McLaughlin, T., Lamendola, C., et al., "High Carbohydrate Diets, Triglyceride-Rich Lipoproteins, and Coronary Heart Disease Risk," The American Journal of Cardiology, 85, 2000, pages 45-48.

7 Stavenow, L., Kjellström, T., "Influence of Serum Triglyceride Levels on the Risk for Myocardial Infarction in 12,510 Middle Aged Males: Interaction With Serum Cholesterol ," Atherosclerosis, 147, 1999, pages 243-247.

8 Heaney, R.P., "Excess Dietary Protein May not Adversely Affect Bone," Journal of Nutrition, 128(6), 1998, pages 1054-1057.

9 Spirt, B.A., Graves, L.W., Weinstock, R., et al., "Gallstone Formation in Obese Women Treated by a Low-Calorie Diet," International Journal of Obesity and Related Metabolic Disorders, 19(8), 1995, pages 593-595.



58 posted on 01/24/2004 7:08:09 PM PST by adam_az (Be vewy vewy qwiet, I'm hunting weftists.)
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To: finnman69
I tried Atkins once...it all comes back if you go off.

Well, no shinola gumshoe. This applies to any plan.

59 posted on 01/24/2004 7:12:48 PM PST by grimalkin ("Everyone feels benevolent if nothing happens to be annoying him at the moment." -C.S. Lewis)
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To: Delphinium
Carb Addicts is easier to stay on than Atkins. Less nitpicky, and since you get one normal meal a day, it's more family-friendly and less boring--and probably better for the body in the long run.
60 posted on 01/24/2004 7:13:38 PM PST by Triple Word Score
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To: PJ-Comix
My wife is pretty much total Atkins maintenance and I'm a bit so-so, mostly eliminating the processed sugars and flours. We eat the crap out of oranges and it doesn't degrade it much, if at all...
61 posted on 01/24/2004 7:16:41 PM PST by Axenolith (<tag>)
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To: Mr. Mojo
One of the problems with staying on Atkins has always been so hard to keep to if don't eat a lot of meals at home. One good effect of the current "fad" is that it will be a lot easier to stay on with so many new alternatives.
62 posted on 01/24/2004 7:17:35 PM PST by Hugin
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To: finnman69
well I have degree from Cornell topop, and my doctor says cut the aturated fats if you want a healthy heart..Atkins died fat

Your doctor is only partially correct, btw. Cut the saturated fats... if you eat typical amounts of carbohydrate. Of course, there's lots of things you can eat on the Atkins diet that aren't high in saturated fat. Pork, chicken, lean red meat, fish. Even Atkins advised against eating nothing but eggs, cheese, and t-bones.

Go chew on your low-fat strawman.

BTW - Yeah, what a fattie! the photo below is from Time magazine in 2002.

63 posted on 01/24/2004 7:17:42 PM PST by adam_az (Be vewy vewy qwiet, I'm hunting weftists.)
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To: finnman69
Atkins died fat

You shouldn't believe that a**hole idiot Mayor Bloomberg.

64 posted on 01/24/2004 7:20:15 PM PST by Hugin
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To: antaresequity
I cant believe the American public is so stupid as to follow these fad diets...

So we should just continue to be fat-asses? With all the talk about America becoming an obese nation they should thank the Atkins diet for reversing the trend.

65 posted on 01/24/2004 7:20:29 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (EEE)
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To: Axenolith
A lot of people ignore the maintenance portion of Atkins and simply assume it's all Induction. Induction to them is also meat and fat and nothing else (rolls eyes). It's ignorance.

Maintenance is extremely flexible... whole grains, legumes, occasional potato for some folks, etc.. The only thing Atkins ever discouraged the use of long-term was refined sugars.

66 posted on 01/24/2004 7:21:13 PM PST by grimalkin ("Everyone feels benevolent if nothing happens to be annoying him at the moment." -C.S. Lewis)
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To: Triple Word Score
I bought that book too, but haven't read it.

I think its important to stick to anything.

My problem is I am addicted to carbs like an alcoholic is to booze. I get started and can't stop even when it makes me sick, and achy.

Those “Atkins”, and “Carborite” candy bars help a lot.
67 posted on 01/24/2004 7:21:29 PM PST by Delphinium
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To: adam_az
Go chew on your low-fat strawman.

I will. I will go enjoy my ice cream, bagels, pasta and all the other things Atkins dieters deprive themselves of.

68 posted on 01/24/2004 7:22:16 PM PST by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestus globus, inflammare animos)
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To: PJ-Comix
I thought this Food Review was hilarious:

Navel Orange

Submitted by Kate Hahn

Don't buy if you want a good car-food!!! I could not get this to fit in my cup holder. And when I (finally) opened the so-called "wrapper" (which was a nice orange color, I'll give them that... BUT "Hello nail salon? I'm coming in for an emergency repair!") it turned out it was not all one piece, but "segments." I did not expect this! If there are going to be a lot of pieces, they should make that clear on the package! They should make it more like fries, which come in a container (which doesn't collapse when you open it—geez!) so you can eat one at a time, no problem. This food almost caused me to have an accident! Pro: tastes like Tropicana (the pulpy one).

From this site:

http://www.mcsweeneys.net/links/newfood/
69 posted on 01/24/2004 7:22:40 PM PST by Triple Word Score
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To: Salgak
Well, I can speak for the South Beach one. I've never eaten so many veggies in my life. Fruit gets added back in after 14 days. Unfortunately most of the stuff that's out now for low carb diets don't work for the South Beach Diet. It's hard to wrap my brain around the difference between low carb and good carb. And turkey bacon, 2 slices, is about all they mention on the SB plan. I know I'll do my part with Florida oranges. I'll just be eating them whole.
70 posted on 01/24/2004 7:25:07 PM PST by Megben
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To: pbmaltzman
Not everyone can handle the same load of carbohydrates, particularly the concentrated sugars in fruit juices. I am one of those people. It has been a very long time since I drank orange juice and ate an orange. My son bought a house with many orange trees on it, and to my dismay I won't be able to eat them. :(
71 posted on 01/24/2004 7:25:57 PM PST by toothseaquer (Peace through strength, not through empty words)
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To: finnman69
Which is why the South Beach diet is low saturated fat.
72 posted on 01/24/2004 7:26:31 PM PST by Megben
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To: finnman69
"I will. I will go enjoy my ice cream, bagels, pasta and all the other things Atkins dieters deprive themselves of."

I should have expected another piece of misinformation, after having debunked your last lie. What are you, a shill or lobbyist for the OJ industry or something?

There are low carb versions of every single one of those products now. Some of them even taste good. ;)

Many people would rather be a normal weight than eat bagels. How sad that you look down your nose at them, as if eating bagels makes you superior. Big deal. You eat bagels. They surely aren't doing much for your IQ.
73 posted on 01/24/2004 7:26:45 PM PST by adam_az (Be vewy vewy qwiet, I'm hunting weftists.)
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To: toothseaquer
but you can be a compassionate conservative and give them away to your friends
74 posted on 01/24/2004 7:26:56 PM PST by cyborg
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To: PJ-Comix
The department's lawyer also is reviewing legal options against some books, such as "The South Beach Diet," that discourage orange juice for dieting purposes because of its high sugar levels.

I just have to laugh.

75 posted on 01/24/2004 7:26:57 PM PST by TankerKC (Airpower!)
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To: TankerKC
Did the word 'lawyer' do it for you too?
76 posted on 01/24/2004 7:28:38 PM PST by cyborg
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To: adam_az
I recently became aware that I've never had a real bagel anyway. Apparently if you don't live IN NYC you can only get things that look like bagels but aren't, if NYers are to be believed.
77 posted on 01/24/2004 7:28:48 PM PST by Triple Word Score
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To: Triple Word Score
It's true.

I live in AZ but I carpetbagged from NY.

I think it's NYC water. Same with the pizza.
78 posted on 01/24/2004 7:31:12 PM PST by adam_az (Be vewy vewy qwiet, I'm hunting weftists.)
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To: cyborg
Right. Because the OJ industry has a right to sell OJ to us. How dare we infringe on that.
79 posted on 01/24/2004 7:35:11 PM PST by TankerKC (Airpower!)
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To: adam_az
I know that the pizza I had from Arnies (sp?) in Lafayette, Indiana, was the best pizza I've ever had in my life. It's almost enough to make me willing to move there, as long as I could leave in winter and whenever Purdue is winning anything. Is it Chicago-style or what? At any rate, my gosh, the rest of the country is seriously deprived in the pizza department. I don't know how it compares to NYC pizza.

Sorry, shouldn't highjack a low-carb thread with pizza longing.
80 posted on 01/24/2004 7:36:40 PM PST by Triple Word Score
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To: pbmaltzman
For 2 1/2 years I've given up virtually everything I truly enjoy eating. I'll be d****d if I'll give up orange juice!
81 posted on 01/24/2004 7:39:39 PM PST by sweetliberty (Even the smallest person can change the course of the future. - (LOTR))
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To: Trajan88
People on low fat healthy diets cut out a lot of the same foods that the Atkins diet does

No cakes pies pastries of any kind-- no chips nachos -- corn curls--etc etc
( one cuts them out because of the processed fats the other because of the carbs)

BOTH type diets eliminate those foods

In addition low fat diets also cut out sodas candy- white bread ( use whole wheat etc etc ) same as Atkins
82 posted on 01/24/2004 7:43:00 PM PST by uncbob
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To: cyborg
"I have discovered the root of the problem... LAWYERS"

Bingo!

83 posted on 01/24/2004 7:43:47 PM PST by sweetliberty (Even the smallest person can change the course of the future. - (LOTR))
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To: antaresequity
Carb-laden diets are the fad. Refined sugars & bleached processed flour crept into our diets significantly in the last 20 years.

I did Atkins over 1 1/2 years ago on a lark while recovering from a foot injury that left me sedentary for 3 months. I was amazed, not just at the weight I lost, but also at the amount of really crappy carbs laced into everyday processed foods. So much so that after my recovery, I stayed on the diet.

I made my own personal adjustments to the diet. I lay off the heavy creams & red meats & bacon. (I had a spike in my cholesterol after the early phase, which disappeared 6 months after the adjustments.) Because I get more than my share of exercise, I do allow more carbs than most on maintenance. Weight dropped 5 more lbs (& held for over a year).

I dont miss pasta, coke (used to drink 1 a day), candy & junk snacks (used to be daily). Atkins showed me how crappy I felt after eating this stuff...why would I ever go back?
84 posted on 01/24/2004 7:44:42 PM PST by naguszed
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To: antaresequity
Carb-laden diets are the fad. Refined sugars & bleached processed flour crept into our diets significantly in the last 20 years.

I did Atkins over 1 1/2 years ago on a lark while recovering from a foot injury that left me sedentary for 3 months. Lost 25lbs... I was amazed, not just at the weight I lost, but also at the amount of really crappy carbs laced into everyday processed foods. So much so that after my recovery, I stayed on the diet.

I made my own personal adjustments to the diet. I lay off the heavy creams & red meats & bacon. (I had a spike in my cholesterol after the early phase, which disappeared 6 months after the adjustments.) Because I get more than my share of exercise, I do allow more carbs than most on maintenance. Weight dropped 5 more lbs (& held for over a year).

I dont miss pasta, coke (used to drink 1 a day), candy & junk snacks (used to be daily). Atkins showed me how crappy I felt after eating this stuff...why would I ever go back?
85 posted on 01/24/2004 7:46:47 PM PST by naguszed
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To: naguszed
Carbs are killer and so is protein and so is fiber and vegies

It depends on the demands your putting your body through...and what those demands will precipitate into in terms of intake

If your loading up prior to a burn day, go with carbs...if your looking to rebuild tissues after stressing the structure...pack in some more protein...if your looking to balance the extremes and keep things moving...go with more fiber and vegies...

There isn't one diet that works...listen to your body...understand the demands you are anticipating making on your body...adjust accordingly...

All of its good...know when you need a balance shift, and react...

Nothing wrong with pasta, steak or OJ...its all good
86 posted on 01/24/2004 7:50:57 PM PST by antaresequity (Miserable failure = http://www.michaelmoore.com/)
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To: Triple Word Score
LOL!
87 posted on 01/24/2004 8:04:23 PM PST by sweetliberty (Even the smallest person can change the course of the future. - (LOTR))
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To: Triple Word Score
"I know that the pizza I had from Arnies (sp?) in Lafayette, Indiana, was the best pizza I've ever had in my life."

If you ever get to Arkansas, look me up. I'll bet mine would make for a good challenge.

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88 posted on 01/24/2004 8:10:03 PM PST by sweetliberty (Even the smallest person can change the course of the future. - (LOTR))
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To: PJ-Comix
I miss my not-from-concentrate OJ almost every morning.

But I don't miss the 60 lbs. lost the last 9 months.

89 posted on 01/24/2004 8:11:09 PM PST by Hank Rearden (Dick Gephardt. Before he dicks you.)
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To: sweetliberty
That's PIZZA????

Holy breadmachine.

<---wants recipe
90 posted on 01/24/2004 8:23:37 PM PST by Triple Word Score
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To: PJ-Comix
I've been eating three or four oranges a week for maybe a year or so, and 2003 was the first year that I went an entire year without having to use sick leave. I never really put the two facts together, but maybe the oranges improved my immune system.

I have a friend who is on kidney dialysis, and his protein intake is limited because protein builds up so quickly in his bloodstream. His dieticians tell him that even healthy people who eat too much protein will damage their kidneys trying to remove the wastes that it produces.

When all is said and done, people need to eat an all-around healthy diet. If they'd do so, they'd lose weight and feel better. If they don't, they'll be heavy. The diet doesn't need to be particularly low carb or high carb. It just needs to be balanced.

WFTR
Bill

91 posted on 01/24/2004 8:32:04 PM PST by WFTR (Liberty isn't for cowards)
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To: Hank Rearden
I am coming to believe that much of our problem is not drinking enough water. We drink fluids that do not have the net effect of actually hydrating us and helping flush out toxins. Fats are one of the ways our bodies deal with less-soluble toxins--it's like an oyster secreting mother of pearl around an irritant to wall it off. It's something to think about. 80% of Americans are clinically dehydrated much of the time--we've literally short-circuited our thirst reflexes by quenching our thirst with fluids that do not hydrate us.

Just one theory. No matter what diet you're on, you have to give your kidneys the tools to get rid of the crud you don't need.
92 posted on 01/24/2004 8:40:20 PM PST by Triple Word Score
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To: Triple Word Score
I tend to agree with you about fluids. Having had kidney stones, water (and Allopurinol) is a good thing. What I don't understand is the emphasis that plain water is better than other drinks.

I drink water, but also Crystal Lite and Diet Rite sodas for flavor. Since the latter are almost all water as well, I consider them part of my water intake. I've never seen any reason why I shouldn't, but have seen people say not to count them.

I also drink black coffee, mostly in the form of double-espressos (I roast my own beans; kinda picky about my coffee). I can see the caffeine there screwing with my metabolism a bit, and there's not much water content, so there's good reason not to count *that* water.

93 posted on 01/24/2004 8:56:25 PM PST by Hank Rearden (Dick Gephardt. Before he dicks you.)
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To: PJ-Comix
I haven't heard the orange gavel rumble like this since Rush got on the grower's bad side about ten years ago:

The department's lawyer also is reviewing legal options against some books, such as "The South Beach Diet," that discourage orange juice for dieting purposes because of its high sugar levels.

94 posted on 01/24/2004 9:06:25 PM PST by Old Professer
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To: Axenolith
We eat the crap out of oranges

Try picking them before they fall off the tree.

95 posted on 01/24/2004 9:23:39 PM PST by Old Professer
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To: uncbob
People on low fat healthy diets cut out a lot of the same foods that the Atkins diet does No cakes pies pastries of any kind-- no chips nachos -- corn curls--etc etc ( one cuts them out because of the processed fats the other because of the carbs)

Thanks for pointing this out. Some of these fanatics think that any non-low-carb diet treats jelly donuts like they're health food!

96 posted on 01/24/2004 11:17:38 PM PST by NYCVirago
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To: PJ-Comix
BTW, what is a good source for fish oil as well as zinc in the FOOD form?

Kippers & sardines.
Nuts, seaweed, and broccoli. (no Omega-3, sorry).
But your average multivitamin should provide plenty.

Drop the caffeine --it can leach Zinc & Magnesium.

97 posted on 01/24/2004 11:57:26 PM PST by dread78645 (Sorry Mr. Franklin, We couldn't keep it.)
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To: southernnorthcarolina
Will our average weight, waistline, and cholesterol levels decline?

Why not? 30 years of lo-fat hi-carb food got us where we Americans are today: 2/3 overweight and 1/3rd obese.

98 posted on 01/25/2004 12:04:08 AM PST by dread78645 (Sorry Mr. Franklin, We couldn't keep it.)
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To: finnman69
fat does not make you fat

but saturated fat will clog your arteries and give you heart problems.

Don't be too sure

Although it is commonly believed that saturated fats and dietary cholesterol "clog arteries" and cause heart disease, such ideas have been shown to be false by such scientists as Linus Pauling, Russell Smith, George Mann, John Yudkin, Abram Hoffer, Mary Enig, Uffe Ravnskov and other prominent researchers (49). On the contrary, studies have shown that arterial plaque is primarily composed of unsaturated fats, particularly polyunsaturated ones, and not the saturated fat of animals, palm or coconut (50).

Trans-fatty acids, as opposed to saturated fats, have been shown by researchers such as Enig, Mann and Fred Kummerow to be causative factors in accelerated atherosclerosis, coronary heart disease, cancer and other ailments (51).

Trans-fatty acids are found in such modern foods as margarine and vegetable shortening and foods made with them. Enig and her colleagues have also shown that excessive omega-6 polyunsaturated fatty acid intake from refined vegetable oils is also a major culprit behind cancer and heart disease, not animal fats.


99 posted on 01/25/2004 12:22:33 AM PST by dread78645 (Sorry Mr. Franklin, We couldn't keep it.)
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Dannon yogurt made the claim that eating their yogurt will let you live to be one hundred. Have there been any suits from family members whose loved ones did not reach that age?

All these fad diets are without credibility. There is nothing to justify anyone believing them.

Atkins is not even revolutionary, its an old bodybuilder trick for temporary results before a competition.

I think in this situation its the legitimate orange juice business going after false claims. It is as if the South Beach diet people said drinking OJ makes your head fall off.

BTW has anyone seen what people eat at southbeach restaurants? It is very UN-atkins.
100 posted on 01/25/2004 12:25:58 AM PST by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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