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Working on the Moon
BBC ^ | January 26, 2004 | Sean Blair

Posted on 01/26/2004 4:05:16 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

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1 posted on 01/26/2004 4:05:16 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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I just had a horrifying thought.

Islam does a lot of moon-worship.

Would they try to sabatoge colonization thereof, or even worse, try to take it over politically?

2 posted on 01/26/2004 4:10:38 AM PST by Lazamataz (The Republicans have turned into Democrats, and the Democrats have turned into Marxists.)
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3 posted on 01/26/2004 4:14:33 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Lazamataz
Anything the U.S. plans to advance civilization would be met with their opposition, sort of like Al Gore and his crowd.
4 posted on 01/26/2004 4:15:46 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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"And running short of air should never be a problem: moondust is composed of 40 per cent oxygen.

I didn't know that. Seems we would have burned the whole moon up with the first landing!

I have to suppose the oxygen is not "free" but maybe an oxide?

5 posted on 01/26/2004 4:17:45 AM PST by realpatriot
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Islam does a lot of moon-worship.

The months of the Islamic calendar begins at the New Moon .. (as do the Hebrew and Chinese calendars). It is true that unlike the Hebrew and Chinese calendars, the Islamic calendar is purely lunar.. but I'm not sure where the leap to "moon-worhip" comes in.

Lunar phases play a heavy role in Christianity as well. The official definition of Easter (Gregorian) was and still is: The First Sunday After The First Full Moon After The Spring Equinox. I don't think you could say Christians worship the moon, even though they rely on it for calculating Easter.

6 posted on 01/26/2004 4:24:28 AM PST by MrsEmmaPeel
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When you're on the moon, of course, you're view would be the Earth -- so you'd watch the phases of the Earth - Waxing crescent Earth, First Quarter Earth, Full Earth, Waxing gibbous Earth, etc etc
7 posted on 01/26/2004 4:26:58 AM PST by MrsEmmaPeel
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I have to suppose the oxygen is not "free" but maybe an oxide?

Right. So it's already been "burned," if you will. To use it, we'll have to break the chemical bonds of the oxygen with the various metals it's compounded with. There are many proven processes to do that; no magic, just basic industrial chemistry.

8 posted on 01/26/2004 4:28:49 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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Yes, just an oxide, chemically bonded. Capable of being reactive or nonreactive. Water, after all, is 33% oxygen, and it doesn't burn very well.
9 posted on 01/26/2004 4:34:19 AM PST by Crazieman
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To: MrsEmmaPeel
but I'm not sure where the leap to "moon-worhip" comes in.


10 posted on 01/26/2004 4:36:09 AM PST by Lazamataz (The Republicans have turned into Democrats, and the Democrats have turned into Marxists.)
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Getting Power From The Moon***The LSP system consists of 20-40 lunar power bases, situated on the eastern and western edges of the moon, as seen from Earth. Each power base has a series of solar cells to collect energy from the sun, which is sent over buried electric wires to microwave generators that convert the solar electricity to microwaves. The generators then send the energy to screens that reflect the microwave beams toward Earth, where they are received by arrays of special antennas strategically placed about the globe. "Each antenna converts the microwave power to electricity that is fed into the local power grid," says Criswell.***

Silicon PV cell production on the Moon as the basis for a new architecture for space exploration*** A method is described by which silicon photovoltaic (PV) devices can be directly deposited onto the lunar regolith using primarily lunar materials. In sequence, a robotic "crawler" moving at slow speed sequentially melts the top layer of regolith and deposits a conducting layer, a doped silicon, a top conducting grid, and an antireflective coating by vacuum evaporation techniques. Concentrated solar energy is utilized as the energy source. Development of this capability would significantly lower the cost of electrical energy on the Moon and would enable a range of other activities, including lower cost propellant production, human outposts with complete food-growth capabilities, and advanced materials production. Low cost energy could affect the economics of propellants in space by allowing the extraction of solar wind hydrogen from the lunar regolith. This would allow the economical export of propellants and other materials to space, first to an Earth-Moon Lagrangian Point and potentially to low Earth orbit. ***©2001 American Institute of Physics.

11 posted on 01/26/2004 4:36:52 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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"Waxing crescent Earth, First Quarter Earth, Full Earth, Waxing gibbous Earth, etc etc"

haha.....sounds like the history of Earth over the last 2000 yrs......I guess that makes the current Earth and its inhabitants the waxing gibbous Earth.....well thats the impression I get when I have a look at what entertains us........

12 posted on 01/26/2004 4:39:38 AM PST by helives (God bless Australia, God bless America, God bless western civilization)
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Does that mean that you believe that Christians worship fish? Or that Christians worship men (since the cross is also a pagan symbol, related to the ankh, representing Man?)

Or for that matter, according to pagan Barbara Walker, the hexagram (aka the Star of David) is an ancient pagan symbol pre-dating Judaism. It's a fertility symbol, the upward triangle representing the penis, penetrating the vulva of the downward triangle. So do Jews worship sex?

You'll find that many symbols have ancient pagan meanings.

13 posted on 01/26/2004 4:42:29 AM PST by Commie Basher
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Lunar Telescopes***Why is the moon such a good place for astronomy? First of all the moon has no atmosphere. The sky is perfectly black and the stars do not twinkle. Stars and galaxies can be observed at all wavelengths including x-ray, ultraviolet, visible, infrared, and radio. ***
14 posted on 01/26/2004 4:43:00 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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So do Jews worship sex?

You have no idea how much we do. ;^)

15 posted on 01/26/2004 4:46:39 AM PST by Lazamataz (The Republicans have turned into Democrats, and the Democrats have turned into Marxists.)
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Mining and Manufacturing on the Moon***Resource utilization will play an important role in the establishment and support of a permanently manned lunar base. The identification of new and innovative technologies will insure the success, sustainability and growth of a future lunar base. These new technologies will certainly utilize lunar resources. Lunar resources can be used to supply replenishables such as oxygen, fuel, water and construction materials. These materials would otherwise have to be brought from Earth at considerable expense.

Lunar resources include oxygen from the lunar soil, water from the poles and a supply of volatile gases. One of the most significant steps towards self-sufficiency and independence from the Earth will be the use of lunar materials for construction.

At least seven major potential lunar construction materials have been identified. These include:

· concrete
· sulfur concrete
· cast basalt
· sintered basalt
· fiberglass
· cast glass
· metals

All of these materials may be used to construct a future lunar base. The basalt materials can be formed out of lunar regolith (soil) by a simple process of heating and cooling, and are the most likely to be used to build the first bases. ***

16 posted on 01/26/2004 4:46:46 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: helives
Using my astronomical program Starry Night, If I were on the Moon right now (Sea of Tranquility at: 8.5N, 31.4E) I'd have a pretty good view of Australia. If I were at the Ocean of Storms (18.4 N, 57.4W), I'd have a pretty good view of Africa. Either case, the Earth phase looks to me like its a Waning Gibbous Earth - Just shy of a Third Quarter Earth
17 posted on 01/26/2004 4:54:26 AM PST by MrsEmmaPeel
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To: Lazamataz
We just had the Chinese New Year - which is (generally) the Second New Moon after the Winter Solstice. I don't see calling the Chinese "moon-worhipers". But I guess that's just me.
18 posted on 01/26/2004 4:56:46 AM PST by MrsEmmaPeel
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Who says the Moon stands fixed within her sphere,
And passionless does spurn all mortal touch?
His heart is ice which dares not love the Moon,
And cry desire to unavailing Night.

19 posted on 01/26/2004 5:46:06 AM PST by Agnes Heep
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20 posted on 01/26/2004 6:01:15 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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