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Al Qaeda again threatens New York, Washington and Los Angeles (thread 2) Daily Terror Threat
DEBKA ^ | 11/03/03

Posted on 01/26/2004 1:01:03 PM PST by Mossad1967

Edited on 01/26/2004 2:18:02 PM PST by Sidebar Moderator. [history]

Al Qaeda again threatens New York, Washington and Los Angeles

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: informative; links; terrorism; threatmatrix
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Is Ansar al-Islam aiding the anti-U.S. insurgency in Iraq?

American Red Cross Homeland Security Advisory System Recommendations for Individuals, Families, Neighborhoods, Schools, and Businesses

- DOJ: Response to Terrorist Attacks - news releases, initiative details, and more from Attorney General Ashcroft and the Justice Department

201 posted on 01/26/2004 5:57:26 PM PST by JustPiper (Register Republican BUT Write-In Tancredo for March !!!!)
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To: JustPiper
I must agree. I don't mind going to Thread II, but to put us on the same page as the Hobbit Gang is a bit insulting to all the hard work that has made this thread so great. I never thought we would last as long as we did. I'm trying to think of a newsworthy event short of what we are trying to prevent (I'm a poet and I didn't know it), that would get us back on the front page.
202 posted on 01/26/2004 5:58:05 PM PST by Labyrinthos
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To: All; StillProud2BeFree
StillProud2BeFree has asked me to let you all know the following:

I'm having serious computer problems and am having to post from the library. Can you please let everyone know on the monster thread on FR that I haven't abandonned you guys; I'll be back translating once I can find my Windows disks and get my computer set back up.
203 posted on 01/26/2004 5:58:51 PM PST by JustPiper (Register Republican BUT Write-In Tancredo for March !!!!)
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To: Revel
Mercy deserves no mercy. This is not a chat room that promotes vulgar language or tawdry behavior.
204 posted on 01/26/2004 5:59:29 PM PST by MamaDearest (Outsource this!)
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To: JustPiper
What happens when there IS a terrorist attack and we provided information that no one saw because we're chatting??
205 posted on 01/26/2004 5:59:52 PM PST by WestCoastGal ("Hire paranoids, they may have a high false alarm rate, but they discover all the plots" Rumsfeld)
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-FBI: War on Terrorism - site includes a list of 'most wanted' suspected terrorists. Also: a form to report suspected terrorist activity.

- White House: National Security - includes text and audio of speeches and statements by the President and cabinet officials

206 posted on 01/26/2004 6:05:03 PM PST by JustPiper (Register Republican BUT Write-In Tancredo for March !!!!)
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To: jstolzen
You betcha. Today I cleaned my food pantry and assessed the canned items needed to survive an event that closes stores or prevents us from going anywhere. Made a list of must have items and will purchase them this week. Worst case is that our pantry is very well stocked come summertime. My biggest worry is that my family is scattered across this big country in many cities. I made it a point this week to e-mail those with computers and told them I love them for the same reasons you cited.
207 posted on 01/26/2004 6:09:25 PM PST by MamaDearest (Outsource this!)
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To: JustPiper
I wonder if she ran into the same problem that others did visiting some of the jihad threads.
208 posted on 01/26/2004 6:10:37 PM PST by WestCoastGal ("Hire paranoids, they may have a high false alarm rate, but they discover all the plots" Rumsfeld)
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- Terrorism Indictments and Complaints - full text of indictments and criminal complaints, with links to corresponding law(s) allegedly broken by defendants. From FindLaw

TERRORISM LAW & POLICY - - Terrorism Law and Policy - includes news, policy papers, anti-terrorism laws, academic commentary, and more. From JURIST, at the University of Pittsburgh School of Law

America--Still Unprepared, Still in Danger - report of an independent task force, sponsored by the Council on Foreign Relations. Released October 24, 2002

Appendix A: Chronology of Significant Terrorist Incidents, 2001 - and - Patterns of Global Terrorism 2001

209 posted on 01/26/2004 6:11:48 PM PST by JustPiper (Register Republican BUT Write-In Tancredo for March !!!!)
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To: WestCoastGal; All
They can move us!!!

They can ridicule us!!!

They can hate us!!!

but,

THEY CANNOT STOP US!!!

BE SAFE AND VIGILANT!!!
210 posted on 01/26/2004 6:12:04 PM PST by Mossad1967
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To: nw_arizona_granny
No, not Mr. Robinson, but rather the unknown (to me) names, who kept complaining.

Question is Mama, who were they to prevail?

211 posted on 01/26/2004 6:13:11 PM PST by JustPiper (Register Republican BUT Write-In Tancredo for March !!!!)
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To: All
NOTE: This is an exact quote:

http://www.usdoj.gov/opa/pr/2004/January/04_crm_033.htm

OR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
WEDNESDAY, JANUARY 21, 2004
WWW.USDOJ.GOV

CRM
(202) 514-2008
TDD (202) 514-1888



MINNEAPOLIS MAN CHARGED WITH CONSPIRING TO PROVIDE
MATERIAL SUPPORT TO AL QAEDA




WASHINGTON, D.C. - Attorney General John Ashcroft, Assistant Attorney General Christopher A. Wray of the Criminal Division, and U.S. Attorney Tom Heffelfinger of the District of Minnesota announced today that Mohammed Abdullah Warsame has been charged with conspiring to provide material support to al Qaeda, a designated foreign terrorist organization.


Warsame, 30, of Minneapolis, was charged in a criminal indictment returned Jan. 20, 2004 by a federal grand jury in Minneapolis. The indictment was unsealed today following Warsame’s arrest and initial appearance in U.S. District Court in the Southern District of New York. Warsame was ordered held without bond, pending his return to Minneapolis.


“The indictment of Warsame demonstrates this nation’s iron resolve to detect, disrupt and dismantle the networks of terror,” said Attorney General John Ashcroft. “The charge against Warsame is a grim reminder that al Qaeda, aided by agents and cells in this country, continues its shadowy efforts to destroy the lives and freedoms of the people of the United States.”


“This case is a stark reminder that the threat from terrorists and those who help them exists across the country, not just in New York City and Washington, D.C., but also in places like Buffalo, Tampa, Portland, San Diego, and now, Minnesota,” added Assistant Attorney General Christopher A. Wray. “Our efforts to cut off the rings of terrorist support will continue with vigor, here in the United States and abroad.”


U.S. Attorney Tom Heffelfinger stated, “This indictment shows that the war on terrorism is not over and that everywhere in the United States, even Minnesota and the rest of the nation’s great Heartland, are subject to the threat of terrorist activity.” Heffelfinger also praised the investigative work of the FBI Joint Terrorism Task Force in Minneapolis. “The Minneapolis JTTF has been in operation since early 2000. The State of Minnesota and the nation are safer due to the hard work and experience of these dedicated investigators. Our best defense against terrorism is law enforcement cooperation, coordination and communication such as that demonstrated in this case by the JTTF members,” he stated.


The indictment alleges that from March 2000 and continuing through Dec. 8, 2003, Warsame conspired to provide material support and resources to al Qaeda, a designated foreign terrorist organization. Al Qaeda was designated as a foreign terrorist organization by the U.S. Secretary of State on Oct. 8, 1999 and redesignated on Oct. 5, 2001.


If convicted, Warsame faces a maximum penalty of 15 years in prison and/or a $250,000 fine. Any sentence would be determined by a judge based on the federal sentencing guidelines.


The case is the result of an investigation by the Federal Bureau of Investigation Joint Terrorism Task Force. The FBI Joint Terrorism Task Force (JTTF) is a multi-agency effort combining the resources of federal, state, and local law enforcement. In addition to the FBI, the investigation was conducted with the assistance of the U.S. Department of Homeland Security, the Bureau of Immigration and Customs Enforcement (BICE), the U.S. Marshals Service, the Minneapolis Police Department, the St. Paul Police Department, the Hennepin County Sheriff’s Office, and the Minnesota Department of Public Safety. In addition to those agencies, the JTTF in Minneapolis includes representatives of the Minnesota Department of Homeland Security; the Ramsey County Sheriff’s Office; the U.S. Secret Service; the U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives; the Minneapolis/St. Paul Airport Police; the Transportation Safety Administration; the Federal Air Marshals; the Bloomington Police Department; the U.S. Department of Agriculture; and the U.S. Postal Inspection Service.


The case is being prosecuted by Assistant United States Attorney Mike Ward, with assistance from the Counterterrorism Section of the Department of Justice in Washington, D.C.


Criminal indictments are only charges and not evidence of guilt. A defendant is presumed to be innocent unless and until proven guilty.


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04-033
212 posted on 01/26/2004 6:13:52 PM PST by Cindy
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To: FairOpinion; Calpernia; StillProud2BeFree; All
I nominate Cal and SP2! What would we have done withour Cal's research and SP2's translations?! She had the toughest job, alot of man hours for free!
213 posted on 01/26/2004 6:15:30 PM PST by JustPiper (Register Republican BUT Write-In Tancredo for March !!!!)
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To: Mossad1967
Oh surprise.. geesh.. Homeland Security.
214 posted on 01/26/2004 6:15:37 PM PST by Zipporah (Write inTancredo in 2004)
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To: Labyrinthos
"the 5% he's right makes him a real winner and worth paying attention to."

==

The same is true of Debka, or probably even the intel services. By its nature intel is fuzzy and inexact, and there is an inverse correlation between false alarm rate and correct detection. If you raise your threshold too high, you may not get as many false alarms, but you may miss a major event -- that's what happened before 9-11.

Now everyone has it "adjusted" in a way, so that it's better to have a thousand false alarms, than miss a major real event. Obviously when the result of an event is catastrophic, this is a much better approach.

Many people don't understand that correlation -- they want 100% accuracy and no false alarms, which is just plain impossible.
215 posted on 01/26/2004 6:15:41 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: LayoutGuru2
Aha! February 1...Nuke2004...very interesting.
216 posted on 01/26/2004 6:16:03 PM PST by Mrs. Xtrmst (God bless our troops. God bless our leaders. God bless the innocents.)
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To: Domestic Church
My own personal opinion is that some of the posts on the front page news section are of no interest to anyone. People just post to see how many responses they may get.
217 posted on 01/26/2004 6:16:24 PM PST by WestCoastGal ("Hire paranoids, they may have a high false alarm rate, but they discover all the plots" Rumsfeld)
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To: KylaStarr; Malsua
Semantics and who knows why?
218 posted on 01/26/2004 6:16:52 PM PST by JustPiper (Register Republican BUT Write-In Tancredo for March !!!!)
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To: WestCoastGal
If the FBI has been reading this thread, I am sure they will still be able to find it. ;)
219 posted on 01/26/2004 6:18:19 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: All
Captain Cook once said:

I had the ambition to not only go farther than man had gone before, but to go as far as it was possible to go.

His ship was the Endeavor.

________________________________________________________
To all my children, all in different branches of the USA Military, I think of your adventures, and achievements always, and that of all Our Military, and their families.

Your efforts pay off in big ways, and in great examples.

(America and its Forces and that of its' Allied Countries and Forces are Winning)

Please see noted paragraphs #1 & 2#

Afghanistan: 'Osama' Wins Golden Globe For Best Foreign Film
By Andrea Boyle




Afghanistan is not known for its movie industry, having produced just 40 films ever. But one Afghan film director, Siddiq Barmak, hopes to change that. Barmak's most recent film, "Osama," the first out of Afghanistan since the fall of the Taliban, won a Golden Globe award last night for best foreign film. RFE/RL recently spoke with Barmak about his film and his country's hopes for the future.


Prague, 26 January 2004 (RFE/RL) -- It was the talk of Montreal, London, and Cannes -- a name that usually induces feelings of fear and hatred, Osama.

Yet, at those cities' annual film festivals, "Osama," the title of a film by Afghan director Siddiq Barmak, was greeted with praise. And last night it won a prestigious Golden Globe award for best foreign film at a ceremony in California. The Golden Globes are awarded by the Hollywood Foreign Press Association and are considered a good omen for the upcoming Academy Awards.

"I would like to dedicate this prize to the people who lost their trust in too much promises, to the people who lost the meaning of 'luck' and to the people who gave me a wonderful film, 'Osama'," Barmak said in receiving the prize. "This message is not only for Afghan audiences. This, the message, was to the world."


"Osama" is the story of an Afghan family of nearly all females who are left to fend for themselves during the Taliban era after the death of the father and an uncle. The mother and grandmother of the clan force the main character, a 12-year-old girl, to dress as a boy in order to get a job and make money for the family.

#1
The title comes from the name the girl uses in her double life as a boy. The child is the only person addressed in the film by name. Barmak says this loss of identity is symbolic of Afghans losing their personal identities as well as their cultural and national ones under the repressive rule of the Taliban. "My film was about horror. The whole atmosphere of the film is [about being scared], so who is behind all of this? Who is behind [all this] loss -- Osama," Barmak said.

"Osama" is Barmak's first feature-length film. He gained experience directing short films and from 1992-96 headed the government agency in charge of cinema. With the arrival of the Taliban, Barmak lost his job and fled the country in 1998, seeking asylum in Pakistan. He returned home in 2002, assuming his old job and beginning work on "Osama."

For the film, Barmak cast non-professional actors from orphanages and refugee camps. Such people, he says, are better able to portray the feelings of the average Afghan. "They were very natural," he says. "They left me with a lot of impressions during the shooting and they made a lot of improvisation because they were real people that could feel this situation. Especially the little girl who played the main character -- she saw a lot of suffering, and she was a witness to a lot of tragedies."

The little girl he speaks of is Marina Golbahari, who Barmak found begging in the streets of Kabul. The Taliban arrested Golbahari's father numerous times, her sister was killed in a rocket attack and her remaining 11 brothers and sisters were left destitute. At the time she was cast in "Osama," Golbahari had never seen a film before. Barmak says he believes she was able to play the role so well because her own experiences were so close to the movie's storyline. Golbahari is now attending school and has told Barmak she hopes to continue acting.

When Barmak screened the film in Afghanistan, audience members approached him to say how closely the bleak film mirrored their own experiences. "They told me a lot of things, that they saw their own [faces], that they saw their own history and now they're feeling very deeply their own pain, because they never thought about it before."

The original ending to the film was a happy one. After the Taliban exposes Osama's true gender, her only way to avoid death by stoning is to become the fourth wife of an elderly mullah. Originally, Barmak showed the girl escaping. But then, he says, he decided the "happily ever after" ending was too naive. Out of respect for the audience, for whom such an escape was not an option, he drew the film to a bleaker end.

Barmak says he did not expect such a warm reception from an Afghan audience, considering the painfully familiar story. Afghan audiences, he says, tend to favor "Bollywood" musicals and more upbeat productions. But he says the enthusiastic response to "Osama" is one of many signs that Afghans may be growing more optimistic about their future.

The response from the West has been similarly rewarding. In addition to last night's Golden Globe, "Osama" won special mention at the Cannes Film Festival in May 2003, as well as the main prize at Montreal's New Movie and New Media Festival in October 2003. In November 2003, Barmak picked up the London Film Festival's Sutherland Trophy for the most original and imaginative movie at the event.

Nominations for the Academy Awards will be announced on 27 January. The ceremony itself will be held in Los Angeles on 29 February. The American film company United Artists has picked up the film for distribution and it has begun to be screened across Europe and the U.S.

#2
The message of the film, Barmak says, is universal: "This message is not only for Afghan audiences. This, the message, was to the world, because I thought that this was not only an Afghan tragedy. It was not a story that belongs to Afghans. It can happen anywhere, by extremism, by fundamentalism."

Barmak says he will not tackle such a weighty topic for his next project. This time around, he is working on a comedy because he wants to see laughter on the faces of his countrymen.

http://www.rferl.org/features/features_article.aspx?id=e1e8c8ef-6932-4be5-8d52-63a7e7e60099&y=2004&m=01
220 posted on 01/26/2004 6:19:42 PM PST by Nemo1USA (Endeavor to Enterprise I had the ambition to not only go farther than man had gone before but-)
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To: Sidebar Moderator
We then invited participants to start a new thread.

But in Chat?! . This is a thread for WOT with alot of hardworking man hours by people who post information, translations, articles, government info etc. This thread has been informative for so many people and the survival tips have been invaluable. Chat? . That is the Inult

221 posted on 01/26/2004 6:19:59 PM PST by JustPiper (Register Republican BUT Write-In Tancredo for March !!!!)
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To: Labyrinthos
Since we can chat now, how does one find the root drive or anything else that may have been accessed by someone very undesirable. I certainly wouldn't want any of these guys to have my address etc.
222 posted on 01/26/2004 6:20:42 PM PST by WestCoastGal ("Hire paranoids, they may have a high false alarm rate, but they discover all the plots" Rumsfeld)
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To: JustPiper
I will not whine public, I will not insult anything, but I will express my disappointment at being moved to "Chat".

Ditto.

223 posted on 01/26/2004 6:21:10 PM PST by mhking
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To: MamaDearest
In outlying areas, say 50-150 miles away, would radiation fallout permeate canned foods?

In general radiation won't damage canned goods - but if you think that the surface of the can might be contaminated, wash it off before opening it.

Of course if the can gets hot enough to damage the seal that's a different question - but that would be heat, not radiation. There's also some question about what happens to food that's heavily irradiated - some scientists think that some of the high-energy radiation may in some cases cause undesirable chemical (not radiological) changes in the food - that's part of the controversy about the safety of preserving food by irradating it. If there's an effect there it's in the category of things where you want to avoid long-term exposure, not that would be immediately dangerous.

Fresh foods would be much more problematic - also canned foods that were canned within the area that had been irradiated but after the radiation leak. Milk is a particular concern after major radiation leakage.

224 posted on 01/26/2004 6:21:53 PM PST by brucecw
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To: FairOpinion
A lot of controversy surrounding David Kay. IMO I'm still awaiting more news. Many, even on the Republican side happen to have the utmost faith in Kay. And of course the media is not talking about the things he 'did' say in Bush's behalf.
225 posted on 01/26/2004 6:21:58 PM PST by JustPiper (Register Republican BUT Write-In Tancredo for March !!!!)
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To: JustPiper
I think David Kay is OK -- but the media is distorting what he is saying.

Kay said there weren't massive amounts of WMD, but he also said, he thought they were taken to Syria -- most of the media avoids reporting the second part.
226 posted on 01/26/2004 6:23:48 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: Domestic Church
I was so upset when I saw Thread Locked for I knew she and the whiner's won and I guess it is because things like the following are more important than the WOT? -g-

Parrot's oratory stuns scientists ^
Posted by mercy to Tolerance Sucks Rocks
On News/Activism ^ 01/26/2004 8:22:36 PM
227 posted on 01/26/2004 6:24:27 PM PST by JustPiper (Register Republican BUT Write-In Tancredo for March !!!!)
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To: liberallyconservative
The only thing I saw on OakRidge were the warnings on NIN
228 posted on 01/26/2004 6:25:48 PM PST by JustPiper (Register Republican BUT Write-In Tancredo for March !!!!)
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To: FairOpinion
I would think the threads heavy with gifs load the system down, I know some threads take forever to load with pics.
229 posted on 01/26/2004 6:26:50 PM PST by JustPiper (Register Republican BUT Write-In Tancredo for March !!!!)
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To: JustPiper
Chat?

Wait till you find out that Chat isn't actually the end of the world!

230 posted on 01/26/2004 6:30:42 PM PST by HairOfTheDog
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How cool is this?

Fake fog could defend nuclear plants

18:18 12 January 04

NewScientist.com news service

Clouds of artificial fog could be used to defend nuclear power stations against airborne terrorist attacks under proposals currently being considered in Germany.

A spokeswoman at Germany's Federal Environment Ministry confirmed that the companies that operate the country's 18 nuclear power stations are assessing the installation of artificial fog machines as a defence against suicide attacks from the air, alongside other possibilities.

Under the proposal, "a nuclear power plant under attack is surrounded within seconds by an artificial, dense wall of fog", reads a statement from the ministry.

Fog or smoke would disguise a power station's location from the air. Although radar can penetrate fog, commercial aircraft are not fitted with radar systems capable of identifying structures on the ground.

http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns99994557
231 posted on 01/26/2004 6:31:15 PM PST by JustPiper (Register Republican BUT Write-In Tancredo for March !!!!)
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To: FairOpinion
Now everyone has it "adjusted" in a way

So correct. Fine-tuning one's perception to the necessarily high S-N ration when piecing together nuances and strange synchronicities ain't for everyone. Being receptive to true signal that SOUNDS like noise and vice-versa is difficult.

Think it'll be easier over here, without the 'why are you in BN' interruptions.

232 posted on 01/26/2004 6:32:09 PM PST by txhurl
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To: Calpernia; piasa; backhoe; All
THE FOLLOWING PRESS RELEASE IS AN EXACT QUOTE:

http://www.fbi.gov/congress/congress04/bucella012604.htm

January 26, 2004





Statement
of
Donna A. Bucella
Director
Terrorist Screening Center



Before the
National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States



 




Good morning Chairman Kean, Vice Chairman Hamilton, and members of the Commission. Thank you for this opportunity to discuss the mission and objectives of the new Terrorist Screening Center (TSC). The TSC was created to ensure that government investigators, screeners, agents and state and local law enforcement officers have ready access to the information and expertise they need to respond quickly when a suspected terrorist is screened or stopped. The TSC will consolidate access to terrorist watch lists from multiple agencies and provide 24/7 operational support for thousands of federal screeners and state and local law enforcement officers across the country and around the world. When fully operational, the TSC will dramatically increase our ability to ensure that federal, state, and local officials are working off of the same unified, comprehensive set of anti-terrorist information.


This is an enormous task, and it requires cooperation and coordination from multiple agencies. Pursuant to Homeland Security Presidential Directive 6, (HSPD 6), the FBI administers the TSC with the support from the Intelligence Community, the Department of Justice, the Department of Homeland Security, and the Department of State. The Department of Justice, the Department of Homeland Security, and the Department of State have representatives assigned to the TSC, and each is responsible for specific aspects of the TSC's mission.


TSC Capabilities


Under its implementing agreement, TSC, through the FBI, was required to achieve an initial operating capability on December 1, 2003 -- only 75 days from its inception on September 16, 2003. This milestone was achieved and since December 1, 2003, TSC has been providing key resources for screeners and law enforcement personnel. These include:


(1) a single coordination point for terrorist screening data;

a consolidated 24/7 call center for encounter identification assistance;

a coordinated law enforcement response to federal, state and local law enforcement; and,

a formal process for tracking encounters and ensuring feedback is supplied to the appropriate entities.



The TSC's initial capabilities are limited due to the need to integrate records in a way that ensures that the data about suspected terrorists is as accurate as possible. Each agency contributing data to the TSC is using its own database. These databases, which were created to support the mission of the individual agencies, are in many instances, their case management systems, not terrorist watch lists.


The TSC has approached the challenge to consolidate terrorists watch lists by implementing a "phased in" approach. Since December 1, 2003, the TSC has had the ability to: (1) make the names and identifying information of terrorists, known to or suspected by the U.S. Government, accessible to federal, state and local law enforcement; (2) have a system for properly reviewing whether a known or suspected terrorist should be included in or deleted from additional screening processes; (3) administer a process to ensure that persons, who may share a name with a known or suspected terrorist, are not unduly inconvenienced in U.S. Government screening processes; and, (4) implement a system to adjust or delete outdated or incorrect information to prevent problems arising from misidentifications.


By this summer, TSC will have a single, consolidated Terrorist Screening Database (TSDB). Before the end of this year, the TSC will create a more dynamic database and use a single, integrated system for ensuring known or suspected terrorists' identities are promptly incorporated into all appropriate screening processes. The terrorist screening database will allow private sector entities, such as operators of critical infrastructure facilities or organizers of large events, to submit a list of persons to the U.S. Government to identify possible terrorists. In addition, the TSC will begin to implement mechanisms for sharing terrorist screening information with cooperating countries. The Department of State is currently working on this issue.


Consolidated Terrorist Screening Database


The consolidated Terrorist Screening Database (TSDB) will be a continuously updated, unclassified law enforcement sensitive database, containing identifying information of all known or suspected terrorists.


The TSC allows the consolidation of disparate information, currently held by multiple agencies and used in different ways, to be brought together for a single purpose -- To help identify and detain potential terrorists to prevent future terrorist attacks.


The TSC will receive the vast majority of its information about known or suspected international terrorists from the Terrorist Threat Integration Center (TTIC), which will assemble and analyze information from a wide range of sources to identify potential terrorists. The FBI will provide the TSC with information about purely domestic terrorism – that is, information that has been determined to have no link to foreign intelligence, counterintelligence, or international terrorism. The TSC will then consolidate this identifying information from these records and make it accessible for queries from federal, state, and local agencies for screening purposes.


When a nomination is received at the TSC, it is reviewed by assignees to the TSC from participating agencies, who, in consultation with their assigning member agencies, determine how an encounter with this individual will be handled. The system is tailored to give different instructions depending on where the encounter takes place. For example, an FBI representative who reviews a record may determine that an individual is subject to a criminal warrant and needs to be detained by state and local law enforcement, while the Transportation Security Administration (TSA) representative may decide that the individual is to be placed on the "No-fly" list. This tailoring ensures that specific instructions are provided to federal, state, and local agencies based on their legal authority.


Currently, most calls to the TSC come from Customs and Border Protection based on encounters made at our borders. Other inquiries are made by state and local police departments and the Department of State's Bureau of Consular Affairs.


Let me take a moment to describe for you the typical process for a TSC inquiry. When a passenger arrives in the United States and he is a possible match to the TSC record, Customs and Border Protection contacts the TSC for assistance in the identification process. The TSC, taking advantage of its electronic access to all of the information contained in the FBI and the Terrorist Threat Integration Center (TTIC) databases, attempts to determine if the person is a positive or negative match to the record. All positive or inconclusive matches are then passed to the FBI Counterterrorism Watch (CT Watch) for follow-up action, and the results of the follow-up are then shared with and communicated back to the originating agency. This action includes the review of sensitive information to assist the officer and provides instruction to that officer as to how the person should be handled. For example, the officer may be instructed-- in appropriate and lawfully authorized circumstances -- to arrest, detain or question the individual. The Counterterrorism Watch simultaneously coordinates with the Joint Terrorism Task Force (JTTF) within that area of concern for the coordinating law enforcement response. The results of the follow-up are then shared with and communicated back to the originating agency.


In the case of a police inquiry, the TSC receives a call from a local police department. By querying the National Crime Information Center (NCIC) database which contains an instruction to contact the TSC, for the first time, a local police officer who pulls an individual over during a routine traffic stop will now know if the person encountered is a known or suspected terrorist. If there is a positive or inconclusive identification match, the TSC follows its procedure and telephonically conferences in the FBI's Counterterrorism Watch for specific instructions about appropriate action that may be taken. Such specific instructions may include -- in appropriate and lawfully authorized circumstances -- arresting, detaining, or questioning the individual. Lastly, the FBI's Counterterrorism Watch reports the final case resolution to the TSC, and the TSC's call center then facilitates feedback to the Terrorist Threat Integration Center (TTIC) and appropriate agencies. As a result, the originating agencies' file will constantly be updated with fresh and pertinent information for further analysis by that agency.


Safeguarding Civil Liberties


We recognize that with all of these capabilities also comes the responsibility to ensure that we continue to protect our civil liberties.


The TSC has absolutely no independent authority to conduct intelligence collection or other operations. In fact, the TSC does not collect information at all – it only receives information collected by other entities with preexisting authority to do so, each with their own policies and procedures to protect privacy rights and civil liberties. The handling and use of information, including U.S. person information, is governed by the same statutory, regulatory, and constitutional requirements as if the information was not to be included in a TSC-managed database.


The TSC's primary mission is to ensure that the identities data that is already known to the U.S. Government is held in one location where it can be queried by those who need it, including federal security screeners and state and local law enforcement officers. The structures which are in place also ensure that information about U.S. persons that has been determined to be purely domestic terrorism information with no link to foreign intelligence, counterintelligence, or international terrorism does not go through the Terrorist Threat Integration Center, but instead is placed directly into the TSC by the FBI. The Attorney General has also been directed to implement procedures and safeguards with respect to information about U.S. persons, in coordination with the Secretary of State, the Secretary of Homeland Security, and the Director of Central Intelligence.


We are also committed to addressing the issues and inconveniences arising from the misidentification of persons under previous watchlisting practices. Procedures are in place to review and promptly adjust or delete erroneous or outdated information, and several such records have already been identified, and updated or removed. In addition, we are currently in the process of creating the Office of Ombudsman to handle the misidentification process for the TSC.


The creation of the Terrorist Screening Center marks a significant step forward in protecting America's communities and families by detecting, disrupting, or preempting terrorist threats. The TSC builds on the improvements to U.S. watch list capabilities that began following the horrific September 11th attacks. The TSC is already contributing to nationwide efforts to keep terrorists out of the U.S. and locate those who may already be in the country. The TSC will be able to fulfill this mission more effectively and efficiently after we achieve full operating capability later this year. I appreciate the Commission's interest in the TSC's activities and the work all of you are doing. I would be happy to answer any questions the Commission may have.






| 2004 Congressional Statement | FBI Home Page |
233 posted on 01/26/2004 6:32:10 PM PST by Cindy
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To: FairOpinion
so why doesn't the administration put Kay in front of the media at a press conference to lay it all out?
234 posted on 01/26/2004 6:32:38 PM PST by oceanview
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To: FairOpinion
I'm sure you're right.
235 posted on 01/26/2004 6:33:27 PM PST by Cindy
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To: JustPiper
I like science.
236 posted on 01/26/2004 6:34:29 PM PST by Cindy
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To: tubavil
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2004/01/25/wirq25.xml&sSheet=/news/2004/01/25/ixnewstop.html"
Saddam's WMD hidden in Syria, says Iraq survey chief
15,367 posted on 01/26/2004 3:38:18 AM CST by Pro-Bush

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1065211/posts?page=87#87
15,368 posted on 01/26/2004 3:46:34 AM CST by FairOpinion

Going through a ton of mistaken mail and sae DaDa is a popular lil boy -g-

1 Daleel_and_Eom
This is a place to discuss the alleged al-Qa`eda message board posters Daleel_Almojahid and EOM. This community is free and open for all. No post will be deleted, And no members will be booted out of the community unless you are soooooo disruptive that we all can not live with you.

2.eom_and_daleel
This is a place to discuss the alleged al-Qa`eda message board posters EOM and Daleel al-Mohajid. If you know of other alleged al-Qa`eda posters, we can discuss them here. A Quote to Remember "each day that goes by not attacked ( at least all out) is good. but each day that goes by brings it one day closer too." -- n60w149 -->

3 eomdaleel
Alternate forum for discussing EOM and Daleel

4 eom_and_daleel2
This is a place to discuss the alleged al-Qa`eda message board posters EOM and Daleel al-Mohajid. If you know of other alleged al-Qa`eda posters, we can discuss them here.

15,372 posted on 01/26/2004 4:33:47 AM CST by JustPiper
237 posted on 01/26/2004 6:34:44 PM PST by JustPiper (Register Republican BUT Write-In Tancredo for March !!!!)
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To: Sabertooth
A curse upon every grain of his sand

And may he be slapped by the entire contents of Imelda Marcos closet.

238 posted on 01/26/2004 6:35:03 PM PST by Oorang ( "If you see a bomb technician running, try to keep up with him." U.S.A.F. Ammo Troop)
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To: Revel
Well at least he is saying we have a few weeks left. Sounds like he is admitting that nothing is going to happen soon.

WELL...if that's the case, then the "countdown clock" is bunk, no?

239 posted on 01/26/2004 6:35:58 PM PST by jstolzen
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To: JustPiper
Yeah, thank God we made room on the front page for such earth shattering information!
240 posted on 01/26/2004 6:36:31 PM PST by thecabal
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To: Old Sarge; All
Very valuable Sarge Bump! A MUST READ for all!
241 posted on 01/26/2004 6:37:48 PM PST by JustPiper (Register Republican BUT Write-In Tancredo for March !!!!)
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To: jerseygirl
but mostly, the level of pure hatred on the Jihad forums-

Agreed. The Jihadi brand of Islam appears to be an entire religious system based on pure and utter hate - of everyone and everything other than themselves, including even the majority of other Muslims. Any time I look into any of their discussions or web sites I feel a distinct sense of spiritual pollution.

242 posted on 01/26/2004 6:38:17 PM PST by brucecw
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To: JustPiper
Link to story: http://www.aztlan.net/nynuked.htm


<>.<>.<>.<>.<>.<>.<>.<>.<>.<>.<>.<>.<>.<> <> LA VOZ DE AZTLAN NEWS BULLETIN <> <>.<>.<> Los Angeles, Alta California <>.<>.<>

January 7, 2004

New York to be "Nuked" on Feb. 2

George Noory, host of the national radio program Coast to Coast, spoke last night of a terrorist nuclear bomb attack on New York City to take place next month on Tuesday February 2. Radio talk host Noory obtained his information from the respected Italian newspaper Il Giornale based in Milan.

The Il Giornale devoted a large part of the front page to the report and prefaced it with the headline, "Al Qaeda Threatens to Nuke New York on February 2". According to Il Giornale, the threat was stated through a video shown on a web site associated with al Qaeda.

This threat may explain the unprecedented security measures that have been undertaken by Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg during the past two weeks. Callers from New York City to the radio program Coast to Coast said that Manhattan and surrounding neighborhoods are being monitored by a large number of helicopters designed to detect "radiation emissions" on the ground. A nuclear device hidden in a truck or building can be detected by sensitive radiological equipment aboard helicopters that fly relatively close to the ground. Also, the US Department of Homeland Security has sent large fixed radiation detectors and hundreds of pager-size radiation monitors for use by the New York City Police Department.

Under the present political environment, it is very difficult to ascertain whether the threat is credible, however, this is not the first time that reliable journalists have reported on the imminent nuking of New York City. On November 14, 2002, the Brazilian journalist Pepe Escobar who writes for the Hong Kong based Asian Times reported in an article titled "Apocalypse Now, or Alottanukes Soon" that "Seven nuclear heads have already been positioned in seven of America's major cities and they are ready to be detonated." On August 30, 2001 Escobar predicted the World Trade Center terrorist attack in an article titled, "Get Osama! Now! Or else " in which he reported for the Asian Times on a meeting between the Taliban and al Qaeda.

Also, it is now very difficult to determine who may actually be behind the terrorist attacks and threats. If a nuclear bomb is detonated in New York City on February 2, most likely it will be blamed on Osama Bin Laden, however, many Americans are now wondering if Osama Bin Laden was actually behind the strike on the World Trade Center on September 11, 2001. One of these is political scientist Joel Skousen who was Coast to Coast's guest last night. Skousen said, "No verifiable evidence has been produced that shows that Arabs were in charge of the strike." He also suggested that the last few presidents have been "script readers" who take their orders from a controlling set of individuals above them.

George Noory, Coast to Coast radio host, seconded Mr. Skousen's beliefs when he expressed that there is something about the current terrorist attacks and threats that he "just can't put his finger on." He said that the situation is like a "jigsaw puzzle", that we have just a few pieces of the entire puzzle in place.

Coast to Coast has millions of listeners in the USA, Mexico and Canada through a large number of radio station affiliates on the AM channel. All of the callers last night expressed serious doubts that the US government is telling Americans the truth. It is heartening to see that more and more Americans are finally awakening to the fact that there are sinister forces within the government taking their orders from an "International Cabal".

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * La Voz de Aztlan http://www.aztlan.net/nynuked.htm

243 posted on 01/26/2004 6:38:18 PM PST by Mossad1967
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To: texasbluebell
It will be archived yes? It should go down on the FR list of infamy -g-
244 posted on 01/26/2004 6:38:40 PM PST by JustPiper (Register Republican BUT Write-In Tancredo for March !!!!)
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To: texasbluebell
It will be archived yes? It should go down on the FR list of infamy -g-
245 posted on 01/26/2004 6:38:41 PM PST by JustPiper (Register Republican BUT Write-In Tancredo for March !!!!)
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To: jerseygirl
jerseygirl - I couldn't of summed it up better myself!

You sure you're not my twin sister?

Your comments were EXACTLY what happens over here. Go to the store - normal. Listen to the news - normal. etc.

Come here..read about the Jihadi forums. Yikes. From that alone, we should be at RED++++ as they ALL seem to coincide on the same dates.

Wonder where the disconnect between the alert level, media coverage and jihadi forums comes in?

Something doesn't mesh here.
246 posted on 01/26/2004 6:39:43 PM PST by jstolzen
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To: nw_arizona_granny
Your right MaMa, the commies have been in DC for a long time, since I was a little girl.
247 posted on 01/26/2004 6:39:59 PM PST by JustPiper (Register Republican BUT Write-In Tancredo for March !!!!)
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To: All
Debka headline ticker reporting that Iraqi VP Al-Douri is in custody. (Hopefully this will prove to be true!)

http://www.debka.com/
248 posted on 01/26/2004 6:40:11 PM PST by Velveeta
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To: Mossad1967
"Under the present political environment, it is very difficult to ascertain whether the threat is credible, however, this is not the first time that reliable journalists have reported on the imminent nuking of New York City. On November 14, 2002, the Brazilian journalist Pepe Escobar who writes for the Hong Kong based Asian Times reported in an article titled "Apocalypse Now, or Alottanukes Soon" that "Seven nuclear heads have already been positioned in seven of America's major cities and they are ready to be detonated." On August 30, 2001 Escobar predicted the World Trade Center terrorist attack in an article titled, "Get Osama! Now! Or else " in which he reported for the Asian Times on a meeting between the Taliban and al Qaeda.


Has anyone heard of this guy Brazilian journalist "Pepe Escobar"?
249 posted on 01/26/2004 6:41:46 PM PST by Mossad1967
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To: Velveeta
Now that would be stupendous!
250 posted on 01/26/2004 6:44:07 PM PST by txhurl (here's hopin that debka gets this right)
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