Al Qaeda again threatens New York, Washington and Los Angeles (thread 2) Daily Terror Threat

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[Mossad1967]

Al Qaeda again threatens New York, Washington and Los Angeles

Link to Thread #1

[JustPiper]

Very valuable Sarge Bump! A MUST READ for all!

[brucecw]

but mostly, the level of pure hatred on the Jihad forums-

Agreed. The Jihadi brand of Islam appears to be an entire religious system based on pure and utter hate - of everyone and everything other than themselves, including even the majority of other Muslims. Any time I look into any of their discussions or web sites I feel a distinct sense of spiritual pollution.

[Mossad1967]

Link to story: http://www.aztlan.net/nynuked.htm


<>.<>.<>.<>.<>.<>.<>.<>.<>.<>.<>.<>.<>.<> <> LA VOZ DE AZTLAN NEWS BULLETIN <> <>.<>.<> Los Angeles, Alta California <>.<>.<>

January 7, 2004

New York to be "Nuked" on Feb. 2

George Noory, host of the national radio program Coast to Coast, spoke last night of a terrorist nuclear bomb attack on New York City to take place next month on Tuesday February 2. Radio talk host Noory obtained his information from the respected Italian newspaper Il Giornale based in Milan.

The Il Giornale devoted a large part of the front page to the report and prefaced it with the headline, "Al Qaeda Threatens to Nuke New York on February 2". According to Il Giornale, the threat was stated through a video shown on a web site associated with al Qaeda.

This threat may explain the unprecedented security measures that have been undertaken by Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg during the past two weeks. Callers from New York City to the radio program Coast to Coast said that Manhattan and surrounding neighborhoods are being monitored by a large number of helicopters designed to detect "radiation emissions" on the ground. A nuclear device hidden in a truck or building can be detected by sensitive radiological equipment aboard helicopters that fly relatively close to the ground. Also, the US Department of Homeland Security has sent large fixed radiation detectors and hundreds of pager-size radiation monitors for use by the New York City Police Department.

Under the present political environment, it is very difficult to ascertain whether the threat is credible, however, this is not the first time that reliable journalists have reported on the imminent nuking of New York City. On November 14, 2002, the Brazilian journalist Pepe Escobar who writes for the Hong Kong based Asian Times reported in an article titled "Apocalypse Now, or Alottanukes Soon" that "Seven nuclear heads have already been positioned in seven of America's major cities and they are ready to be detonated." On August 30, 2001 Escobar predicted the World Trade Center terrorist attack in an article titled, "Get Osama! Now! Or else " in which he reported for the Asian Times on a meeting between the Taliban and al Qaeda.

Also, it is now very difficult to determine who may actually be behind the terrorist attacks and threats. If a nuclear bomb is detonated in New York City on February 2, most likely it will be blamed on Osama Bin Laden, however, many Americans are now wondering if Osama Bin Laden was actually behind the strike on the World Trade Center on September 11, 2001. One of these is political scientist Joel Skousen who was Coast to Coast's guest last night. Skousen said, "No verifiable evidence has been produced that shows that Arabs were in charge of the strike." He also suggested that the last few presidents have been "script readers" who take their orders from a controlling set of individuals above them.

George Noory, Coast to Coast radio host, seconded Mr. Skousen's beliefs when he expressed that there is something about the current terrorist attacks and threats that he "just can't put his finger on." He said that the situation is like a "jigsaw puzzle", that we have just a few pieces of the entire puzzle in place.

Coast to Coast has millions of listeners in the USA, Mexico and Canada through a large number of radio station affiliates on the AM channel. All of the callers last night expressed serious doubts that the US government is telling Americans the truth. It is heartening to see that more and more Americans are finally awakening to the fact that there are sinister forces within the government taking their orders from an "International Cabal".

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * La Voz de Aztlan http://www.aztlan.net/nynuked.htm

[JustPiper]

It will be archived yes? It should go down on the FR list of infamy -g-

[JustPiper]

It will be archived yes? It should go down on the FR list of infamy -g-

[jstolzen]

jerseygirl - I couldn't of summed it up better myself!

You sure you're not my twin sister?

Your comments were EXACTLY what happens over here. Go to the store - normal. Listen to the news - normal. etc.

Come here..read about the Jihadi forums. Yikes. From that alone, we should be at RED++++ as they ALL seem to coincide on the same dates.

Wonder where the disconnect between the alert level, media coverage and jihadi forums comes in?

Something doesn't mesh here.

[JustPiper]

Your right MaMa, the commies have been in DC for a long time, since I was a little girl.

[Velveeta]

Debka headline ticker reporting that Iraqi VP Al-Douri is in custody. (Hopefully this will prove to be true!)

http://www.debka.com/

[Mossad1967]

"Under the present political environment, it is very difficult to ascertain whether the threat is credible, however, this is not the first time that reliable journalists have reported on the imminent nuking of New York City. On November 14, 2002, the Brazilian journalist Pepe Escobar who writes for the Hong Kong based Asian Times reported in an article titled "Apocalypse Now, or Alottanukes Soon" that "Seven nuclear heads have already been positioned in seven of America's major cities and they are ready to be detonated." On August 30, 2001 Escobar predicted the World Trade Center terrorist attack in an article titled, "Get Osama! Now! Or else " in which he reported for the Asian Times on a meeting between the Taliban and al Qaeda.


Has anyone heard of this guy Brazilian journalist "Pepe Escobar"?

[txhurl]

Now that would be stupendous!

[JustPiper]

But you cannot stay away from this thread can you? Why is that?

[JustPiper]

Sounds like you have taken over FR to me, your quite demanding.

[JustPiper]

I love the spellchecker

[JustPiper]

She wants to validate this thread is useless and chat

[JustPiper]

I go to bed dreaming about this 200 keys since they went missing

[JustPiper]

Ok troops Lead Mod is the best we got here! Fair and willing to be tolerant with us. LM has exhibited alot of patience and doesn't have a quick trick finger that they could use being in power. Please understand LM works with us.

[Mossad1967]

An Atomic Explosion Coming Soon
to your City
by
Ernesto Cienfuegos
La Voz de Aztlan
Los Angeles, Alta California - November 15, 2002 - (ACN) The Brazilian journalist Pepe Escobar who writes for the Hong Kong based Asian Times reported yesterday in an article titled "Apocalypse Now, or Alottanukes Soon" that "Seven nuclear heads have already been positioned in seven of America's major cities and they are ready to be detonated." Pepe Escobar is no slouch. On August 30, 2001 he predicted the World Trade Center terrorist attack in an article titled, "Get Osama! Now! Or else " in which he reported for the Asian Times on a meeting between the Taliban and al Qaeda.

Today the Asian Times, which primarily focuses on Asian business and finance, removed the article from their website and is now saying that it removed it because they later determined it was a hoax. This is very strange!

Pepe Escobar's "Apocalypse Now, or Alottanukes Soon" reported on an interview conducted by the Qatar-based Al-Jazeera television station of Mohammed al-Usuquf, a top al-Qaeda leader. According to Escobar, Al-Usuquf says that al-Qaeda's Kuwaiti spokesman, Sulaiman Abu Ghaith, and bin Laden himself, suggested that he grant the interview. Bin Laden, al-Usuquf says, is "alive and healthy, along with his commanders Mohammed Atef, Khalid Shaik Mohammed and Mullah Omar".

Pepe Escobar's account of the Al-Jazeera interview is as follows:

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Al-Usuquf starts by criticizing Washington's disrespect of the Kyoto Protocol on climatic change, the International Criminal Court and the Palestinian cause, as well as the "financial greed" engendering speculative gains over Third World countries. He also criticizes the manner in which America wastes wealth, like US$80 billion a year on gambling. "They [have] lost the notion of spirituality and only live in sin."

For this reason, America must be destroyed, and al-Usuquf insists that "aircraft carriers, nuclear submarines and spy satellites will be worthless in the next war".

Al-Qaeda, according to him, has 5,000 first rank operatives and around 20,000 all over the world. Of all the prisoners in the US, only "20 or 30" are al-Qaeda, and all of them "second-rank". Confirming Asia Times Online information, he swears that there are no first-rank prisoners in Guantanamo in Cuba. Al-Usuquf says, "We have more than 500 first-rank and 800 second-rank [operatives] inside the US." "First rank" are considered ones that have lived in the US for more than 10 years, most of them married with children. "They have an idea about the plans, and they are just waiting for a call." "Second-rank" operatives arrived in the past five years and "have no idea about the plans". They are all willing to die.

Al-Usuquf insists that September 11 "was just the beginning. It was a way to call the world's attention to what's going to happen." He then details a plan to destroy the US by "attacking the heart of what they consider the most important thing in the world: money".

"The American economy is an economy of false appearances," says al-Usuquf. "There's no real economic weight. American GNP is something around $10 trillion, but only 1 percent comes from agriculture, and only 24 percent from industry. So 75 percent of its GNP comes from services, and most of it is financial speculation. For someone who understands economics, and apparently America's Treasury Secretary Paul O'Neill does not, or cannot, the US as a whole behaves like an immense dot.com, and dollars are its stocks. The value of stocks from a given company is directly proportional to its profitability. When a company only provides services, but does not produce goods, the value of its stocks depends on its credibility. What I'm saying is if US credibility is affected, its stocks - the US dollar - will fall at tremendous speed, and the whole American economy will collapse."

Al-Usuquf is absolutely positive, "because, in a smaller scale, this is exactly what big financial conglomerates do with Third World countries to collect profits in one month that no Swiss bank would guarantee in four to five years". Al-Usuquf says that al-Qaeda could do the same by "provoking a deficit of $50 to 70 trillion, the equivalent to five to seven years of the GNP of the US". How? By "destroying America's seven largest cities and some other measures". The means? "Atomic bombs." Al-Usuquf's most startling revelation is that the bombs "won't be launched, they are already there". "Seven nuclear heads have already been positioned on American soil, before September 11, and they are ready to be detonated. Before September 11, American security was a fiasco, and even later, if we needed, we could position the bombs there. They arrived through seaports, as normal cargo. A nuclear head is not bigger than a fridge, so it can easily be camouflaged as one. Thousands of containers arrive at a seaport every day, and even with very efficient security, it's impossible to check and examine each one of them."

Al-Usuquf says that the bombs were bought on the black market: five from the former USSR and two from Pakistan. The five Russian heads "are from T-3 missiles, also known as RD-107, and their power is around 100 kilotons each, that is five times the Hiroshima bomb. The Pakistani ones are less powerful, something around 10 kilotons each."

Each of the Russian bombs would have cost around $200 million. Al-Qaeda was able to raise the money "because we have many sponsors. Many countries sponsor us, and also some very rich people." And not all of these are Arab countries. "Some European countries as well are also interested in the fall of the US." As to the "rich people", they are "people who are also tired of seeing the US bleeding the rest of the world."

And Iraq's Saddam Hussein, says Al-Usuquf, is not one of these people, "but just a collaborator, represented by Abdul Tawab Hawaish, his vice prime minister and responsible for Iraq's arms program".

Al-Usuquf says that the bombs cannot be detected by US authorities. "Even if they are old, they were modernized and are very well hidden. Even if they were located, they have autodetonation mechanisms in case something or someone gets close. Even an electromagnetic pulse is not capable of deactivating them." The bombs allegedly cannot be detected because "they are enveloped in thick layers of lead". They could be detonated "by various methods - cellphone call, radio frequency, seismic shock or by their regressive clock".

Al-Usuquf details the whole plan. "First, one head would be detonated, which would cause the deaths of 800,000 to 1 million people and a chaos never seen before. During this chaos, two or three planes, which are now disassembled inside barns near empty roads in the US countryside, would take off in suicide missions to pulverize another two or three big American cities with chemicals. Once the disease was identified, all seaports and airports would be quarantined. Land borders would also be closed. No plane, boat or car would enter or leave the US. This would be total chaos." The first target would be the city "that would offer the best conditions, for example bright sky and winds of eight or more miles an hour blowing towards the center of the country, so radioactive dust can contaminate the largest possible area".

This attack would not knock out the US, recognizes al-Usuquf, "But the process would be initiated. As with the World Trade Center, it would be just a question of time for the whole economic structure to be turned to dust. If the objectives are reached with one bomb and diseases, probably we will save the lives of other people, but it's risky, and probably six more bombs will be detonated, one a week, and more attacks with chemical weapons will be launched." According to estimates made by al-Usuquf "and Ayman al-Zawahiri", al-Qaeda's number 2, about 15 million people would die, victims of the bombs and the radiation. Among those contaminated by diseases, "25 percent will die, a figure around more than 5 million, plus many others due to the chaos and disorder".

Al-Usuquf does not fear an American military response. "Even if five or 10 cities are chosen at random to be destroyed, it will still be a small price to pay. The problem is that the economic despair will be so great that even if it saves [money] by not using weapons, American liquidity will be near zero, and the US will make more money selling a Nimitz-class aircraft carrier to Turkey or Italy for $5 billion, because they will urgently need to recapitalize. But it will be too late. Moreover, what will remain of an American soldier's morale to fight knowing that his whole family died and his country ceased to exist? To fight for what?"

The world economy would not collapse, says al-Usuquf, although "in the beginning, it will be very difficult. But without the US the world will soon rise in a more just and fraternal manner. Nothing can stop the plan."

And whatever America does, "it's too late". When will the attack begin? "I can't tell."
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Today, it is becoming increasingly more difficult for La Voz de Aztlan to determine the truth concerning what is being reported by the mainstream media and the government. There is no doubt, however, that George W. Bush has lied to the American people and to the world on a broad range of issues. We can not say that the above report is true or a hoax. We will leave this up to our readers.

[JustPiper]

This thread is way too big and is bogging down our system.
Time to start a new one. Someone please do the honors.
Thanks, Jim
50,769 posted on 12/11/2003 3:33:09 PM CST by Jim Robinson

1. LM we did not get any forewarning
2. That was three times bigger than ours when they got the warning

[Donna Lee Nardo]

But we should not forget that the target cities (e.g., NYC) and sites have remained at an increased threat level...

[JustPiper]

Bump for this find knak! Houston is a worry.