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Al Qaeda again threatens New York, Washington and Los Angeles (thread 2) Daily Terror Threat
DEBKA ^ | 11/03/03

Posted on 01/26/2004 1:01:03 PM PST by Mossad1967

Edited on 01/26/2004 2:18:02 PM PST by Sidebar Moderator. [history]

Al Qaeda again threatens New York, Washington and Los Angeles

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To: mercy
But you cannot stay away from this thread can you? Why is that?
251 posted on 01/26/2004 6:44:26 PM PST by JustPiper (Register Republican BUT Write-In Tancredo for March !!!!)
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To: mercy
Sounds like you have taken over FR to me, your quite demanding.
252 posted on 01/26/2004 6:45:10 PM PST by JustPiper (Register Republican BUT Write-In Tancredo for March !!!!)
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To: mercy
I love the spellchecker
253 posted on 01/26/2004 6:46:00 PM PST by JustPiper (Register Republican BUT Write-In Tancredo for March !!!!)
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To: PrivateIdaho
She wants to validate this thread is useless and chat
254 posted on 01/26/2004 6:46:43 PM PST by JustPiper (Register Republican BUT Write-In Tancredo for March !!!!)
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To: Try2Discern
I go to bed dreaming about this 200 keys since they went missing
255 posted on 01/26/2004 6:47:29 PM PST by JustPiper (Register Republican BUT Write-In Tancredo for March !!!!)
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To: Lead Moderator; All
Ok troops Lead Mod is the best we got here! Fair and willing to be tolerant with us. LM has exhibited alot of patience and doesn't have a quick trick finger that they could use being in power. Please understand LM works with us.
256 posted on 01/26/2004 6:50:51 PM PST by JustPiper (Register Republican BUT Write-In Tancredo for March !!!!)
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To: JustPiper
An Atomic Explosion Coming Soon
to your City
by
Ernesto Cienfuegos
La Voz de Aztlan
Los Angeles, Alta California - November 15, 2002 - (ACN) The Brazilian journalist Pepe Escobar who writes for the Hong Kong based Asian Times reported yesterday in an article titled "Apocalypse Now, or Alottanukes Soon" that "Seven nuclear heads have already been positioned in seven of America's major cities and they are ready to be detonated." Pepe Escobar is no slouch. On August 30, 2001 he predicted the World Trade Center terrorist attack in an article titled, "Get Osama! Now! Or else " in which he reported for the Asian Times on a meeting between the Taliban and al Qaeda.

Today the Asian Times, which primarily focuses on Asian business and finance, removed the article from their website and is now saying that it removed it because they later determined it was a hoax. This is very strange!

Pepe Escobar's "Apocalypse Now, or Alottanukes Soon" reported on an interview conducted by the Qatar-based Al-Jazeera television station of Mohammed al-Usuquf, a top al-Qaeda leader. According to Escobar, Al-Usuquf says that al-Qaeda's Kuwaiti spokesman, Sulaiman Abu Ghaith, and bin Laden himself, suggested that he grant the interview. Bin Laden, al-Usuquf says, is "alive and healthy, along with his commanders Mohammed Atef, Khalid Shaik Mohammed and Mullah Omar".

Pepe Escobar's account of the Al-Jazeera interview is as follows:

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Al-Usuquf starts by criticizing Washington's disrespect of the Kyoto Protocol on climatic change, the International Criminal Court and the Palestinian cause, as well as the "financial greed" engendering speculative gains over Third World countries. He also criticizes the manner in which America wastes wealth, like US$80 billion a year on gambling. "They [have] lost the notion of spirituality and only live in sin."

For this reason, America must be destroyed, and al-Usuquf insists that "aircraft carriers, nuclear submarines and spy satellites will be worthless in the next war".

Al-Qaeda, according to him, has 5,000 first rank operatives and around 20,000 all over the world. Of all the prisoners in the US, only "20 or 30" are al-Qaeda, and all of them "second-rank". Confirming Asia Times Online information, he swears that there are no first-rank prisoners in Guantanamo in Cuba. Al-Usuquf says, "We have more than 500 first-rank and 800 second-rank [operatives] inside the US." "First rank" are considered ones that have lived in the US for more than 10 years, most of them married with children. "They have an idea about the plans, and they are just waiting for a call." "Second-rank" operatives arrived in the past five years and "have no idea about the plans". They are all willing to die.

Al-Usuquf insists that September 11 "was just the beginning. It was a way to call the world's attention to what's going to happen." He then details a plan to destroy the US by "attacking the heart of what they consider the most important thing in the world: money".

"The American economy is an economy of false appearances," says al-Usuquf. "There's no real economic weight. American GNP is something around $10 trillion, but only 1 percent comes from agriculture, and only 24 percent from industry. So 75 percent of its GNP comes from services, and most of it is financial speculation. For someone who understands economics, and apparently America's Treasury Secretary Paul O'Neill does not, or cannot, the US as a whole behaves like an immense dot.com, and dollars are its stocks. The value of stocks from a given company is directly proportional to its profitability. When a company only provides services, but does not produce goods, the value of its stocks depends on its credibility. What I'm saying is if US credibility is affected, its stocks - the US dollar - will fall at tremendous speed, and the whole American economy will collapse."

Al-Usuquf is absolutely positive, "because, in a smaller scale, this is exactly what big financial conglomerates do with Third World countries to collect profits in one month that no Swiss bank would guarantee in four to five years". Al-Usuquf says that al-Qaeda could do the same by "provoking a deficit of $50 to 70 trillion, the equivalent to five to seven years of the GNP of the US". How? By "destroying America's seven largest cities and some other measures". The means? "Atomic bombs." Al-Usuquf's most startling revelation is that the bombs "won't be launched, they are already there". "Seven nuclear heads have already been positioned on American soil, before September 11, and they are ready to be detonated. Before September 11, American security was a fiasco, and even later, if we needed, we could position the bombs there. They arrived through seaports, as normal cargo. A nuclear head is not bigger than a fridge, so it can easily be camouflaged as one. Thousands of containers arrive at a seaport every day, and even with very efficient security, it's impossible to check and examine each one of them."

Al-Usuquf says that the bombs were bought on the black market: five from the former USSR and two from Pakistan. The five Russian heads "are from T-3 missiles, also known as RD-107, and their power is around 100 kilotons each, that is five times the Hiroshima bomb. The Pakistani ones are less powerful, something around 10 kilotons each."

Each of the Russian bombs would have cost around $200 million. Al-Qaeda was able to raise the money "because we have many sponsors. Many countries sponsor us, and also some very rich people." And not all of these are Arab countries. "Some European countries as well are also interested in the fall of the US." As to the "rich people", they are "people who are also tired of seeing the US bleeding the rest of the world."

And Iraq's Saddam Hussein, says Al-Usuquf, is not one of these people, "but just a collaborator, represented by Abdul Tawab Hawaish, his vice prime minister and responsible for Iraq's arms program".

Al-Usuquf says that the bombs cannot be detected by US authorities. "Even if they are old, they were modernized and are very well hidden. Even if they were located, they have autodetonation mechanisms in case something or someone gets close. Even an electromagnetic pulse is not capable of deactivating them." The bombs allegedly cannot be detected because "they are enveloped in thick layers of lead". They could be detonated "by various methods - cellphone call, radio frequency, seismic shock or by their regressive clock".

Al-Usuquf details the whole plan. "First, one head would be detonated, which would cause the deaths of 800,000 to 1 million people and a chaos never seen before. During this chaos, two or three planes, which are now disassembled inside barns near empty roads in the US countryside, would take off in suicide missions to pulverize another two or three big American cities with chemicals. Once the disease was identified, all seaports and airports would be quarantined. Land borders would also be closed. No plane, boat or car would enter or leave the US. This would be total chaos." The first target would be the city "that would offer the best conditions, for example bright sky and winds of eight or more miles an hour blowing towards the center of the country, so radioactive dust can contaminate the largest possible area".

This attack would not knock out the US, recognizes al-Usuquf, "But the process would be initiated. As with the World Trade Center, it would be just a question of time for the whole economic structure to be turned to dust. If the objectives are reached with one bomb and diseases, probably we will save the lives of other people, but it's risky, and probably six more bombs will be detonated, one a week, and more attacks with chemical weapons will be launched." According to estimates made by al-Usuquf "and Ayman al-Zawahiri", al-Qaeda's number 2, about 15 million people would die, victims of the bombs and the radiation. Among those contaminated by diseases, "25 percent will die, a figure around more than 5 million, plus many others due to the chaos and disorder".

Al-Usuquf does not fear an American military response. "Even if five or 10 cities are chosen at random to be destroyed, it will still be a small price to pay. The problem is that the economic despair will be so great that even if it saves [money] by not using weapons, American liquidity will be near zero, and the US will make more money selling a Nimitz-class aircraft carrier to Turkey or Italy for $5 billion, because they will urgently need to recapitalize. But it will be too late. Moreover, what will remain of an American soldier's morale to fight knowing that his whole family died and his country ceased to exist? To fight for what?"

The world economy would not collapse, says al-Usuquf, although "in the beginning, it will be very difficult. But without the US the world will soon rise in a more just and fraternal manner. Nothing can stop the plan."

And whatever America does, "it's too late". When will the attack begin? "I can't tell."
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Today, it is becoming increasingly more difficult for La Voz de Aztlan to determine the truth concerning what is being reported by the mainstream media and the government. There is no doubt, however, that George W. Bush has lied to the American people and to the world on a broad range of issues. We can not say that the above report is true or a hoax. We will leave this up to our readers.

257 posted on 01/26/2004 6:53:49 PM PST by Mossad1967
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To: Lead Moderator
This thread is way too big and is bogging down our system.
Time to start a new one. Someone please do the honors.
Thanks, Jim
50,769 posted on 12/11/2003 3:33:09 PM CST by Jim Robinson

1. LM we did not get any forewarning
2. That was three times bigger than ours when they got the warning
258 posted on 01/26/2004 6:55:15 PM PST by JustPiper (Register Republican BUT Write-In Tancredo for March !!!!)
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To: jerseygirl
But we should not forget that the target cities (e.g., NYC) and sites have remained at an increased threat level...
259 posted on 01/26/2004 6:57:00 PM PST by Donna Lee Nardo
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To: knak; Aggie Mama
Bump for this find knak! Houston is a worry.
260 posted on 01/26/2004 6:57:08 PM PST by JustPiper (Register Republican BUT Write-In Tancredo for March !!!!)
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To: JustPiper
That is very cool. Makes you wonder what else is in the works that we don't know about.
261 posted on 01/26/2004 6:58:03 PM PST by Oorang ( "If you see a bomb technician running, try to keep up with him." U.S.A.F. Ammo Troop)
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To: LayoutGuru2
MailWasher is a beautiful thing and free taboot!
262 posted on 01/26/2004 7:00:28 PM PST by JustPiper (Register Republican BUT Write-In Tancredo for March !!!!)
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To: Mossad1967
they are encased in lead, but can be detonated by cellphone or radio waves? sure.
263 posted on 01/26/2004 7:01:06 PM PST by oceanview
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To: MamaDearest
Now I only have 300 posts to catch up on between two threads ;)
264 posted on 01/26/2004 7:01:53 PM PST by JustPiper (Register Republican BUT Write-In Tancredo for March !!!!)
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To: oceanview
Absolutely!
265 posted on 01/26/2004 7:03:07 PM PST by Mossad1967
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To: JustPiper
Between you and me, JP, I think that the hobbit hole posters are behind this; they do not want any new contenders who will upset their current claim on their 50k+ first thread which is the largest here on FR. Please keep this conspiracy theory of mine quiet, though....
266 posted on 01/26/2004 7:03:45 PM PST by Donna Lee Nardo
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To: MamaDearest
Reference post 198:

Should be ok at that range mama...

Depends on a lot of variables, including wind direction, fallout deposit and the force of the blast. But with the type of weapons being discussed here, it wouldnt be a factor.

Something in the 20 MT range upwind may be however.
267 posted on 01/26/2004 7:04:58 PM PST by judicial meanz
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To: Mossad1967; JustPiper
Frightening, but there's a lot of indications around that this is a hoax.

I saw the original story published on WND and was really concerned, as it all sounded SO plausible. But, I'm not sure if the "it's a hoax" is damage control, or the truth.

You decide..

http://antivirus.about.com/library/hoaxes/bljazeera.htm
268 posted on 01/26/2004 7:05:52 PM PST by jstolzen
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269 posted on 01/26/2004 7:07:22 PM PST by JustPiper (Register Republican BUT Write-In Tancredo for March !!!!)
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To: JustPiper
M, please let us know if there are any MEer types next to you there at the library sitting before a computer. You know, the swarthy kind that Ann Coulter has talked about! (No offense to you, swarthyguy.)
270 posted on 01/26/2004 7:08:43 PM PST by Donna Lee Nardo
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To: Domestic Church
I haven't read everything in the thread tonight (yet) but blindness and "cave of darkness" together, makes me thing of electricity or lack there of.
271 posted on 01/26/2004 7:09:09 PM PST by knak (wasknaknowknid)
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To: LayoutGuru2
Informative
272 posted on 01/26/2004 7:09:18 PM PST by JustPiper (Register Republican BUT Write-In Tancredo for March !!!!)
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To: Mossad1967
One of these is political scientist Joel Skousen who was Coast to Coast's guest last night. Skousen said, "No verifiable evidence has been produced that shows that Arabs were in charge of the strike." He also suggested that the last few presidents have been "script readers" who take their orders from a controlling set of individuals above them.

Well, that's pretty off the wall. Is he (I could be reading this wrong) implying that we (Bush, US gov.) staged 9/11 and have staged subsequent threats?

273 posted on 01/26/2004 7:10:23 PM PST by Oorang ( "If you see a bomb technician running, try to keep up with him." U.S.A.F. Ammo Troop)
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To: Cindy; Sean Osborne Lomax; All
In fairness I repost Sean's reply for all who may have missed it, many did not need to be seen IMO. I also will now refrain on a public forum my feelings and/or suspicions. I'm done with that! Sean also suggested to read his bio.

To: JustPiper
Just Piper,

It is in my humble opinion a fact and that is what I posted here on this forum.

However, officially it is a denied rumor inside the beltway and in the print and news media.

This was denied by someone from the Department of State.

Let me ask you a question: With all due respect to the US State Department, since when, according to DC protocols, since when does State issue denials of Department of Defense operations in a time of war?????? Since when does Colin Powell's people SPEAK FOR Donald Rumsfelds people????

Since when does the Department of State issue denials of ANY activity conducted by the US Department of Defense?

Thanks, and I apologise for my earlier post.
I just want you to really think about this some more.

15,379 posted on 01/26/2004 5:48:05 AM CST by Sean Osborne Lomax
274 posted on 01/26/2004 7:12:13 PM PST by JustPiper (Register Republican BUT Write-In Tancredo for March !!!!)
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To: judicial meanz
What is the Casper Society?
275 posted on 01/26/2004 7:13:56 PM PST by JustPiper (Register Republican BUT Write-In Tancredo for March !!!!)
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To: JustPiper
Casper Society:

Its a society for Cold War electronics intelligence types who rode on submarines and made espionage missions during the Cold War.

( Sidebar: they got to enjoy the fun stuff with us)


Pretty colorful characters...
276 posted on 01/26/2004 7:17:24 PM PST by judicial meanz
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To: JustPiper
aw man that's terrible. I think a whole lot of us have been having problems.
277 posted on 01/26/2004 7:18:45 PM PST by knak (wasknaknowknid)
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To: JustPiper; All
With all due respect to everyone:

I don't know who and what to believe anymore.

I just know that something doesn't seem right.

It would not shock me If something catastrophic does take place soon.

In any event, be prepared!!!
278 posted on 01/26/2004 7:21:23 PM PST by Mossad1967
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To: MamaDearest
Today I cleaned my food pantry and assessed the canned items needed to survive an event that closes stores or prevents us from going anywhere. Made a list of must have items and will purchase them this week

Just something to consider. We(people of the west) really only need to survive 3-4 days, 10 days max off the grid. Why just 10 days? If we really have a teotwawki event, there's simply no way we can prepare for months on end. Weeks, certainly...months/years? Heh. You show me a person prepared for a year without power and food and I will show you a guy with a gun to his head 2 weeks after he needs a year of power and food.

279 posted on 01/26/2004 7:22:40 PM PST by Malsua
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To: Mossad1967
Pepe Escobar
280 posted on 01/26/2004 7:24:37 PM PST by Oorang ( "If you see a bomb technician running, try to keep up with him." U.S.A.F. Ammo Troop)
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To: Mossad1967
FOR WHATEVER PURPOSES THIS THREAD WAS STARTED, IT EVOLVED INTO A VERY POTENT FORCE FOR THOSE INVOLVED IN IT AND A VERY POWERFUL POTENTIAL RESOURCE FOR VAST NUMBERS OF OTHERS.

IMHO, that's nothing to be sneesed nor sneered at.

Ah, well, beauty and significance . . . as well . . . evidently as kosherness and newsworthyness seem to be as much in the eye of the beholder as other things. Their loss, personally. Sadly.

Now, this thread is a favored institution, tradition, living room, refuge, alert center, zomfort zone (I started to correct my spelling to comfort zone but hey--this thread is special so how about a special word for it?). . . YEA for this thread.

Not sure what to add. I for one hope it lasts until Jesus comes.

I suppose we could pray for the . . . what . . . parochial short sightedness that seems to influence thread allocation sometimes a bit much?


281 posted on 01/26/2004 7:25:27 PM PST by Quix (Choose this day whom U will serve: Shrillery & demonic goons or The King of Kings and Lord of Lords)
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To: JustPiper
why the heck is everybody (some) complaing? What is wrong with being moved to chat? The other thread was to big, it was annoying other freepers because it was always there. Some people would try to read it and some wouldn't. It's not a big deal.
282 posted on 01/26/2004 7:25:43 PM PST by knak (wasknaknowknid)
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To: FairOpinion
So,

are we continuing the old thread on the old thread or on this one?

Or is the answer:

Yes!

???
283 posted on 01/26/2004 7:26:47 PM PST by Quix (Choose this day whom U will serve: Shrillery & demonic goons or The King of Kings and Lord of Lords)
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To: MamaDearest
Canned goods would be ok.
284 posted on 01/26/2004 7:27:03 PM PST by Donna Lee Nardo
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To: Donna Lee Nardo
"Please keep this conspiracy theory of mine quiet, though...."

Oops!
285 posted on 01/26/2004 7:27:38 PM PST by Revel
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To: nw_arizona_granny
There were complaints????

Sheesh. I share your curiosity.

BTW, do you live in the STRIP?

Dad's in Cottonwood. I went to NAU 1965-69. Worked at the Grand Canyon one sumer and Oak Creek road construction flagging another.
286 posted on 01/26/2004 7:28:22 PM PST by Quix (Choose this day whom U will serve: Shrillery & demonic goons or The King of Kings and Lord of Lords)
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To: JustPiper
The SM said above that he probably could have given some heads up. But frankly, if that's the worst faux pas we make in a day, I'll take it.

Like it or not, there were fewer occasions where we needed to pull posts from that thread. Besides, it wasn't until very recently that we knew that when we were moderating these threads it was causing systemwide slowdowns.

Have a good one, it's time for me to hit the sack.

287 posted on 01/26/2004 7:29:44 PM PST by Lead Moderator
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com; Domestic Church; Sean Osborne Lomax; TexKat; texasbluebell; ...
Know how many pakistani engineers work in our nuclear plants?
15,387 posted on 01/26/2004 7:20:12 AM CST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com

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Gen. Franks: WMD Could End the Constitution...

The Constitution is pretty much gone anyway.
I'm beginning to seriously doubt this whole business.

Frankly, I can't believe that if the AQ gang is real, they didn't manage an attempt on the State of the Union. What more could they want, than everybody in one cozy spot?

I've always thought that our external enemies would never prosper without help from within. We, here on FR, saw that help revealed during the Clinton years, when the supposedly staunch republican, Ken Starr, was unable to push the treason angle because he was as filthy with Chinese cash as everybody else in Washington.

The Senate colluded in the Clinton's treason as well.
The current administration has continued the coverup and destruction of the evidence.

We may be hit and hit hard by the Jihadis, but our own government will be at least partly responsible, if not more so.

15,389 posted on 01/26/2004 7:32:58 AM CST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com
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If you don't see that value then you are free to ignore it.
15,400 posted on 01/26/2004 8:42:39 AM CST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com
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Computer screen bombs make the blue screen of death a reality:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1065388/posts

15,396 posted on 01/26/2004 8:29:39 AM CST by Domestic Church
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If this is refering to the CN&V2 bbs, I would highy caution anyone from going there. It is a very dangerous place to visit, and under no circumstances should you post there.

Fair warning! Do not go there.

There are some other Freepers here who may have more to add to what I am saying.

15,405 posted on 01/26/2004 8:56:58 AM CST by Sean Osborne Lomax
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SANAA, Yemen — The Yemeni wing of al-Qaida, in a statement published yesterday on an Islamic Web site, vowed to attack the United States to avenge the 2002 killing of its leader by a CIA drone aircraft.

The statement, which could not be authenticated, said Osama bin Laden's network had over the past year prepared a "devastating and crushing blow in the United States that will happen soon" in retaliation for the death of Ali al-Harthi, who was killed by a missile the pilotless CIA aircraft fired at his car in eastern Yemen.
15,408 posted on 01/26/2004 9:45:46 AM CST by TexKat
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2001843438_terrordig25.html
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'Computer bomb' intercepted en route to Tel Aviv
Jerusalem Post ^ | Jan. 26, 2004 | Margot Dudkevich

Hidden inside a computer screen, explosives that were to be used for a suicide bomb attack in Tel Aviv were retrieved by Israeli security forces operating along the Green Line, near the Israeli settlement of Elkana.

Acting on intelligence information received from a Palestinian terrorist captured last week in Nablus, Israeli security forces operating near Kafr A-Zawiya on Sunday retrieved the bag rigged with explosives, hidden inside a computer screen.

Ahmed Ibrahim Ashker,18, a Tanzim fugitive arrested by security forces on January 21, was to have perpetrated the attack which was planned by head of the Fatah Tanzim in the Balata refugee camp, near Nablus, Hisham Abu Hamdan, 22.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1013726/
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At least one weapon of mass destruction - a sodium cyanide bomb capable of delivering a deadly gas cloud
Okay, now I have to interject something. JP, re: your mention of cloud, and Pro-bush, your mention of "Clouds Enterprise" (and Clouds Enterprise was mentioned earlier many posts back by someone).

Found that the term clouds in islam refers to one of the 4 ancient elements, which we in the West called Earth, Air, Water, and Fire. In islam, "clouds" is the term for "air".

I don't know if it means anything, or even what it could mean, but just thought I'd throw it out there.

This link has a little explanation of clouds and the quran.
15,412 posted on 01/26/2004 10:08:41 AM CST by texasbluebell
http://www.islam-guide.com/ch1-1-g.htm
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288 posted on 01/26/2004 7:30:08 PM PST by JustPiper (Register Republican BUT Write-In Tancredo for March !!!!)
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To: jstolzen
Yes, on the feeling. Also, have friends going to that Superbowl too. I just best not say anything else about that.
289 posted on 01/26/2004 7:33:48 PM PST by Letitring
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To: Lead Moderator
Cool...does your hitting the sack give us carte blanche to curse and insult each other and stuff without having to worry about our posts being pulled until the morning?
290 posted on 01/26/2004 7:34:12 PM PST by Donna Lee Nardo
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To: liz44040
Wasn't night attack mention by one of the terrorist? I think so, I remember that.
291 posted on 01/26/2004 7:34:45 PM PST by Letitring
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To: FairOpinion
SOUNDS LIKE a

FUNCTIONAL house keeping problem, evidently.

Software but sort of a mechanical software problem in that protecting the news section from such a popular, rapidly growing huge thread requires it to be in chat for lack of a better place to put it, evidently.

Guessing.
292 posted on 01/26/2004 7:35:12 PM PST by Quix (Choose this day whom U will serve: Shrillery & demonic goons or The King of Kings and Lord of Lords)
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To: KylaStarr
I have never observed John Robinson nor Jim nor any of their tireless unpaid assistants to do arbitrary things for squirrelly reasons.

I'm sure it was the wisest way they knew to handle a problem if the facts are remotely close to as presented. And I believe them to be straightforward, as stated.

293 posted on 01/26/2004 7:37:12 PM PST by Quix (Choose this day whom U will serve: Shrillery & demonic goons or The King of Kings and Lord of Lords)
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To: WestCoastGal
How you go about detecting pc invasions depends upon your nerd capabilities and level of paranoia? I'm constantly looking for changes. I addition to my firewall, I run Spybot, Adaware, JV16 Power Tools (for registry changes), RB Killer, and Spyware Blaster. Because I'm always monitoring my system, I have a greater chance of picking things up more often than not because things don't look right.
294 posted on 01/26/2004 7:38:30 PM PST by Labyrinthos
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To: FairOpinion
Any clues about projected responses?

I sure pray that W has a list of options well prepared long ago.
295 posted on 01/26/2004 7:39:10 PM PST by Quix (Choose this day whom U will serve: Shrillery & demonic goons or The King of Kings and Lord of Lords)
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To: Sean Osborne Lomax; knak; riri; Oorang; Donna Lee Nardo; the gillman@blacklagoon.com
Re: CN&V2 bbs

Please do not ask me where I got this information, but I can vouch for its truthfulness. I was also subjected to massive attacks on my home PC as a result of being on that site. (One of the reasons for my "testiness" of late.) We are steping on some Rats tails and they are squealing, biting back, and then some as a result.

Here is what I know from a colleague in email yesterday and from another individual over the phone Saturday evening:

1) Do NOT open ANY message or post to that bbs.

2) They utilize Javascript and/or cookies that recognizes IP's.

If you want to maintain your system as it is stay away from that place! Just plain stay away!

I believe some of the prepetrators of this activity on CN&V2 are also present on Free Republic as well as the EOM and Daleel Yahoo Group. Yahoo email accounts were shut down, hacked and hijacked by this same and related activity. If moderators want this information please contact me privately. There is much more to this.

15,421 posted on 01/26/2004 11:04:28 AM CST by Sean Osborne Lomax
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Yeah, me! I had major problems after going there. I just opened the page and a huge pop up window came up. I clicked it off and my McAfee came up and said I had a virus. I got rid of the thing as it was really only a trojan but a pain in the patooti no less! I deleted all the cookies from there, bookmarks and my cache of temporary files and don't have a problem. I won't be going back, it was turning into a smutty board anyway.
15,428 posted on 01/26/2004 11:48:41 AM CST by knak
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Is Al Queda Planning Nuclear Terrorism
15,432 posted on 01/26/2004 12:02:07 PM CST by riri

http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=35358
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Pak nuke scientists leeaked information.
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1065561/posts

15,437 posted on 01/26/2004 12:24:22 PM CST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com
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Sure are a few uptight folks here. I mean, if you aren't interested in a thread, move on. Very simple concept, really. Kinda humorous, in a sad sort of way, that they allow themselves to get so tweaked over one thread out of how many hundreds, per day! Must be some sort of control-freak mentality.

15,439 posted on 01/26/2004 12:33:27 PM CST by Oorang
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DonnaLeeNardo

I think since you are already registered they may not be taking new users:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1013726/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=5
The requested document does not exist on this server.
296 posted on 01/26/2004 7:40:19 PM PST by JustPiper (Register Republican BUT Write-In Tancredo for March !!!!)
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To: Mossad1967; oceanview
I'm so scientist and I don't even own a cellphone. This is how I figure it. A bomb encased in lead could not be detonated by cellphone or radio unless the detonation receiver was on the outside of the lead box, right? Any radiation detection device would not pick up on the receiver as it would not be emitting radiation.
297 posted on 01/26/2004 7:41:03 PM PST by Oorang ( "If you see a bomb technician running, try to keep up with him." U.S.A.F. Ammo Troop)
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To: Quix
Thats an interesting question Quix.

I was just getting ready to hit the rack when you posed it. Woke me straight up.

My humble opinion is that Americans who survived would be so full of fire and anger that they would burn a Grant like swath clear through the Middle East until the mullahs howled.
298 posted on 01/26/2004 7:41:03 PM PST by judicial meanz
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To: Quix
Now FBI says guard shot himself??????????????????


Did plant security guard make up story about shooting?

Security guard Robert House tells Eyewitness News the FBI is essentially accusing him of lying after he was shot.
By Deborah Wrigley
ABC13 Eyewitness News
(1/26/04 - FREEPORT, TX) — Law enforcement officers have ruled out terrorism as a motive in the shooting of a guard at a Freeport chemical plant over the weekend. Monday, that security guard talked from his hospital.


The indisputable fact in the story is that security guard Robert House was shot late Friday night. He says the bullet came from a man who was taking pictures of a chemical plant. Now House says the FBI is accusing him of fabricating the entire incident.

The shooting happened not far from the Port of Freeport on a gravel road near the BASF Chemical plant. A man was reportedly sitting in a truck without license plates. Contract security guard Robert House approached him.

"I radioed to my dispatch to say the gentleman was taking pictures of the lights," recalled House.

Then House says he saw a gun aimed by a man he describes as having a foreign accent.

He said, "Trying to tell him, 'No, no! Don't shoot me' when he shot me."

It was a shoulder wound. While recovering at a Lake Jackson hospital House says he spoke with an FBI agent and agreed to a polygraph test.

But then House claims the agent told him "the test was telling him that I shot myself. And I told him no, I didn't. And he said he could it in my eyes, that I was crying out for some type of help."

This weekend, the FBI's Houston spokesman Bob Doguim said, "We've got more and more reason not to believe this is terrorist related or any terrorist concerns."

As for Robert House's allegations, on Monday the same spokesman told Eyewitness News, "We already said what we had to say. We don't have the luxury of playing this out in public."

So now Robert House has a lawyer -- and he says he also has a fear.

"Actually scared whoever this person was might come back, and on top of that I have the FBI telling me I shot myself," said House.

House has referred all specific questions to his attorney. However, as of air time for this story, the attorney has yet to return our calls.
(Copyright © 2004, KTRK-TV)
299 posted on 01/26/2004 7:42:06 PM PST by WestCoastGal ("Hire paranoids, they may have a high false alarm rate, but they discover all the plots" Rumsfeld)
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To: All
9:45 pm 45°F

News 24 Houston News Briefs
1/24/2004 12:56 PM
By: News 24 Houston

Coast Guard steps up security at Houston Ship Channel

The Coast Guard has starting giving random escorts to ships carrying hazardous chemicals into the Houston Ship Channel.

It's all part of a security precaution to prevent someone from taking control of one of the ships.

The tankers move past several large chemical plants and refineries.

Experts say any disruption in production could make the price of gas spike severely.

Officials say during the recent orange level security alert, all vessels bearing hazardous chemical were escorted.

http://www.news24houston.com/content/headlines/?ArID=22764&SecID=2
300 posted on 01/26/2004 7:47:02 PM PST by WestCoastGal ("Hire paranoids, they may have a high false alarm rate, but they discover all the plots" Rumsfeld)
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