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Kay on Today: "It Was Absolutely Prudent to Go to War Against Saddam" (Remarkable New Info)
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Posted on 01/27/2004 5:24:28 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest

If one reasonably fair-and-balanced Today Show interview is a fluke, could two be a trend?

Back on January 15th, I reported on Katie Couric's interview with Ted Kennedy in which she had been remarkably tough on the senior splasher from Massachusetts regarding his speech on Iraq.

This morning, it was Matt Lauer's turn to offer, dare I say it, a thoroughly fair performance in his interview of former chief US weapons inspector in Iraq David Kay.

From a national security and political perspective, what was much more important than the tone of Lauer's questions was the substance of Kay's remarks. Democrats looking to exploit Kay's earlier remarks to accuse the Bush administration of misleading the American people will come away from this interview bitterly disappointed, their arguments in tatters.

For on every issue down the line, Kay forcefully made the case that the Bush administration acted in good faith, that Saddam was indeed a threat, and that war against him was absolutely justified.

Began Lauer: "Some people have relied on your earlier statement to say that the US misled the American people into war on the basis of a claim that Saddam had WMDs. Do you think the US misled the American people?"

Kay: "It wasn't only the US who came to that conclusion. The French, Germans, and UN all thought Saddam had WMDs."

Lauer: "If you didn't find WMDs, does that mean they never existed, or could they have been moved prior to war?"

Kay: "We looked at that possiblity but we didn't find evidence that there were large stockpiles prior to the war."

Lauer than ran a clip from Pres. Bush's State of the Union Address from one year ago, in which he stated that Saddam had been employing huge resources to develop WMDs and had built up a large stockpile.

Lauer: "Was that inaccurate?"

Kay: "It was inaccurate in terms of the reality we found on the ground now, but it was accurate in terms of the intelligence at the time.

"It was also accurate in the sense that Saddam did spend large sums of money trying to get WMDs but he simply didn't get what he paid for.

"There was lots of corruption in the Iraq WMD development program."

Lauer: "So scientists lied to Saddam, they told him they could develop WMDs, took huge sums of money and didn't deliver?"

Kay: "Right. There was widespread corruption, lots of money wasted. People were concerned about the money, not about working."

Lauer: "But the intent to develop WMDs was there?"

Kay: "Absolutely, Saddam surely wanted to get WMDs and spent a lot of money trying to do so."

Lauer then showed a clip from Colin Powell at the UN saying Saddam had at least 500 tons of WMDs. Again, Kay explained that Powell was not being intentionally misleading and that his statement was based on the best intelligence available at the time.

Added Kay, responding to what some of the Dems are alleging: "To say there must have been pressure from the White House on the intelligence community is wrong. We've also been wrong about Iran and Libya. We clearly need better intelligence."

Lauer then quoted from Kay's earlier interview with Tom Brokaw in which Kay had said that "if anyone was abused (by faulty intelligence) it was the President of the US rather than the other way around."

Kay confirmed the accuracy of that remark.

Lauer: "Is it true that in 2000 and 2001 Saddam was pushing his nuclear progarm?"

Kay: "Yes, he was pushing hard for nuclear and long range missiles. Look, it's clear the man had the intent. He simply wasn't successful."

"He clearly lied to UN and was in material brach."

In a key moment in the interview, Lauer asked: "Based on everything you now know, was it prudent to go to war against Saddam?"

Kay: "It was absolutely prudent to go to war. The system was collapsing, Iraq was a country with desire to develop WMDs, and it was attracting terrorists like flies to honey."

Lauer: "Are your earlier comments being exploited for political reasons?"

"Inevitably yes, but what we have is a national security issue that shouldn't be exploited as a political issue."

Lauer: "Should we continue to search for WMDs as VP Cheney has suggested?

Kay: "Absolutely."


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 2004; davidkay; iragiwmds; iraq; iraqifreedom; justwar; katiecuric; kay; mattlauer; todayshow; waragainstiraq; wmd
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This is, no pun intended, a bombshell interview. Kay absolutely absolves the Bush administration of any intent to mislead the American people into war, paints Saddam as a highly dangerous man who was ardently seeking WMDs, and strongly backs the President's decision to go to war.

While only a relatively minor footnote, Lauer's supportive tone was almost as equally surprising. The rough transcript above doesn't do it complete justice. By his tone, and the way he set up the questions, it was clear that Lauer was helping position Kay to make his statements in support of the Bush administration.

If Katie and Matt keep this up, I could be out of my "job" at FR, reporting on blatant liberal bias at The Today Show!

1 posted on 01/27/2004 5:24:28 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest
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To: Behind Liberal Lines; Miss Marple; an amused spectator; netmilsmom; Diogenesis; YaYa123; MEG33; ...
Today Show ping.
2 posted on 01/27/2004 5:26:12 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Only one explanation, Lauer has been cloned by aliens.
3 posted on 01/27/2004 5:28:15 AM PST by 4CJ (||) Support free speech and stop CFR - visit www.ArmorforCongress.com (||)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Hmm. Remarkable.

I've thought for some time now that the Rats would prefer we went to war against a nuclear and chemically armed country. Perhaps I was wrong and there is some sanity on the left after all.
4 posted on 01/27/2004 5:28:56 AM PST by Peach (The Clintons have pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest; hellinahandcart; Lil'freeper
Don't throw in the towel just yet.
5 posted on 01/27/2004 5:29:06 AM PST by sauropod (What happens at CPAC stays at CPAC)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
If Katie and Matt keep this up, I could be out of my "job" at FR, reporting on blatant liberal bias at The Today Show!

I wouldn't hold my breath. I think Katie and Matt were just having an off day.

6 posted on 01/27/2004 5:30:03 AM PST by Always Right
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To: Peach
Well, if Lauer is showing signs of sanity, the trend hasn't reached the Dem presidential candidates yet. Dean, Kerry and the others are still claiming that the Bush administration misled the American people into war.
7 posted on 01/27/2004 5:30:19 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest
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To: All
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8 posted on 01/27/2004 5:30:29 AM PST by jla (http://hillarytalks.blogspot.com)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
"If you didn't find WMDs, does that mean they never existed, or could they have been moved prior to war?"

Come on....Iraq is the size of Californina. IMHO, it's still too soon to make a conclusive decision. With that said, I would not be surprised if the were indeed moved to Syria before we had a chance to close the border.

9 posted on 01/27/2004 5:30:46 AM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I will defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
I have heard Kay speak.He said Bush just told him to search for the truth.Bush was misled as were the Brits,the French,the Germans,etc.Bad intel.

Good Morning.Thanks!
10 posted on 01/27/2004 5:30:48 AM PST by MEG33 (America will never seek a permission slip to provide for the security of our country)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
You are right of course. It's a bit of hopefulness on my part regarding the left. If the media can be made to understand the issues, it is my hope the electorate will also understand, which will drive the left to a more balanced position.
11 posted on 01/27/2004 5:31:51 AM PST by Peach (The Clintons have pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Bump! I don't suppose we will be hearing any of this on the cable networks. That's what the media does. They distort the original remarks of the person and then never correct it - even when the full transcript comes out. They do their initial damage and then they go silent. Happens every day. They know the public only hears the first headlines. It's dispicable.
12 posted on 01/27/2004 5:32:02 AM PST by Wait4Truth
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
If Katie and Matt keep this up, I could be out of my "job" at FR, reporting on blatant liberal bias at The Today Show!

I just happened to turn on the Today show yesterday, and almost lost my breakfast when I sat the perky one.... She looks like she is always PO'ed about something

13 posted on 01/27/2004 5:32:39 AM PST by Arrowhead1952 (WARNING! The dumbocRATs will self-destruct before the 04 elections!!!)
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To: Always Right
Thanks for giving me hope! But seriously, once we get into the heart of the election campaign, I am confident that Matt and Katie will ride to the support of the Dem candidate and engage in the kind of Bush bashing that will give me plenty to report on!
14 posted on 01/27/2004 5:32:46 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest
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To: mewzilla; Williams; Texas_Dawg
FYI
15 posted on 01/27/2004 5:32:50 AM PST by MEG33 (America will never seek a permission slip to provide for the security of our country)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
I have to wonder if this wasn't a case of Lauer not doing his homework.

The liberal media is so liberal they've been ignoring reports out of England and elsewhere in which Kay made similar comments. Maybe Lauer was simply setting Kay up with softballs because he didn't realize that Kay was going to use them to defend the President and the war.
16 posted on 01/27/2004 5:33:00 AM PST by Behind Liberal Lines
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
if anyone was abused (by faulty intelligence) it was the President of the US rather than the other way around."

Given the atmosphere of the Intelligience community, one wonders if this was intentional.
17 posted on 01/27/2004 5:33:38 AM PST by Toespi
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Thank you for the positively shocking report.
18 posted on 01/27/2004 5:33:41 AM PST by Quilla
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Lauer: "If you didn't find WMDs, does that mean they never existed, or could they have been moved prior to war?"

Kay: "We looked at that possibility but we didn't find evidence that there were large stockpiles prior to the war."

Why not ask the direct question? Is there any evidence of Saddam shipping his WMDs to Syria?

19 posted on 01/27/2004 5:33:52 AM PST by McGruff
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
That's why I mentioned that, more than normally, it would have been useful to actually see the interview rather than rely on my report. It seemed clear to me that Lauer was not mindlessly lobbing open-ended questions, but that he was generally sympathetic to Kay's views and was asking questions designed to let him offer pro-Bush administration answers. Remarkable.
20 posted on 01/27/2004 5:35:03 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest
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To: Wait4Truth
I don't suppose we will be hearing any of this on the cable networks.

That's exactly what was going through my mind as I watched the interview unfold. This was blockbuster stuff. Will the networks cover it? Will the NY Times give it 1/10th the inches it devoted to Kay's original "there are no WMDs" report? Somehow I doubt it.

21 posted on 01/27/2004 5:36:47 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest
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To: McGruff
I agree, Crime Dog. Why not ask directly about Syria? Further indications of this simply being a case of Lauer not doing his homework perhaps?
22 posted on 01/27/2004 5:37:00 AM PST by The G Man (Wesley Clark is just Howard Dean in combat boots)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Thanks for your report. It must be ratings. Katy & Matt are whores along with being flaming liberal partisans. I don't trust either of them.
23 posted on 01/27/2004 5:37:27 AM PST by Ditter
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
"It was absolutely prudent to go to war. The system was collapsing, Iraq was a country with desire to develop WMDs, and it was attracting terrorists like flies to honey."

I don't suppose we'll see this quote in the New York Times.

24 posted on 01/27/2004 5:37:27 AM PST by toolbreaker
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
If Katie and Matt keep this up, I could be out of my "job" at FR, reporting on blatant liberal bias at The Today Show!

No. Think of it this way: what candidates supported the war or voted in favor of action? Who would the Libs want to be able to "forgive" a vote if they can show he was misled (even to the point of saying Bush was also misled) to make that canadidate more palatable as the Dem Nominee?

Kerry

25 posted on 01/27/2004 5:37:28 AM PST by theDentist (Boston: So much Liberty, you can buy a Politician already owned by someone else.)
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To: Puppage
Come on....Iraq is the size of Californina. IMHO, it's still too soon to make a conclusive decision.

I agree. If you can hide one of these, image how easy it would be to hide a liter of anthrax....


26 posted on 01/27/2004 5:38:28 AM PST by Quilla
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To: theDentist
Interesting theory. Devious, but interesting!
27 posted on 01/27/2004 5:39:46 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Wow. What a great interview! When I saw that Kay was on I thought that it would be another I-got-the-goods-on-Bush tell all, but I was happily mistaken. Laur did a good job but it was evident that Kay was taking all the wind out of his sails. This should be broadcast against Dean, Edwards, Clark, and John Franken Kerry whenever they wet their pants over Iraq.
28 posted on 01/27/2004 5:39:48 AM PST by SquirrelKing
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
It's good that he has said these things. However since the left can't digest information in it's true form they will continue to spin that Bush intentionally led us into this war based on lies. Get ready for the big battle.
29 posted on 01/27/2004 5:41:17 AM PST by LoudRepublicangirl (loudrepublicangirl)
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To: SquirrelKing
I agree that Kay was amazingly supportive of the Bush administration, but I must respectfully disagree that Lauer was out to get W and that Kay was "taking the wind out of his sails." I sensed a surprisingly supportive tone in the manner in which Matt framed his questions.
30 posted on 01/27/2004 5:41:47 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest
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To: Wait4Truth
I agree, especially after watching several rat pundits last night...the mantra for this election is already in place....*Bush lied, and caused over 500 US deaths*...*The Bush Doctrine can never work with faulty intel*....and my fav..*It was ultimately Bush's decision, the buck stops here*....
31 posted on 01/27/2004 5:42:42 AM PST by mystery-ak (Almighty God, Embrace with Your invincible armour our loved ones in all branches of the service.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Thanks!
32 posted on 01/27/2004 5:43:55 AM PST by BlueAngel
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
never underestimate the power of the halfwit liberal mind. ive allready seen comments in other forums that the white house had "gotten" to kay.
33 posted on 01/27/2004 5:44:59 AM PST by cripplecreek (.50 cal border fence)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Excellent report. Thanks much.
34 posted on 01/27/2004 5:45:31 AM PST by Paul_B
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To: windchime; prairiebreeze
FYI Ping
35 posted on 01/27/2004 5:45:36 AM PST by Mo1 (Join the dollar a day crowd now!)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
What I find interesting is that Saddam had the intention of developing WMDs, paid huge somes of money following his intention, and actually believed that he had them. I do think we are expecting a lot from our intelligence agency if we have the expectation of knowing more about the state of Iraq's WMD programs than Saddam himself.
36 posted on 01/27/2004 5:45:51 AM PST by undeniable logic
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To: BushMeister
FYI
37 posted on 01/27/2004 5:47:35 AM PST by MEG33 (America will never seek a permission slip to provide for the security of our country)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Lauer and Katie have fallen to number 2 in the ratings.

You don't supose that they have discovered "Trash Bush... Tatings fall. Be fair ... Ratings rise" do you?

Nah!!! Katie and Lauer are both to perky to figure that out.

38 posted on 01/27/2004 5:47:50 AM PST by Common Tator
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To: Big Giant Head
Interesting info ping :-)
39 posted on 01/27/2004 5:47:58 AM PST by Marie Antoinette (Happily repopulating the midwest since 1991!)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
that Saddam was indeed a threat, and that war against him was absolutely justified.

I have been patiently pointing out for two days that in two different interviews that I know of, (NPR, then yesterday's Brokaw), Kay said what they found indicated Iraq was MORE of a threat than we thought before going in. I surmised due to terrorism when I heard it the first time, and indeed, that's what he pointed to, in part, in his Brokaw, and now Today interviews.

He's been saying it, it's been buried, and like you, I termed it a bombshell revelation.

40 posted on 01/27/2004 5:48:45 AM PST by cyncooper
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
I sensed a surprisingly supportive tone in the manner in which Matt framed his questions.

I don't know if I'd say supportive ... but he was surprised and I do give Matt credit in asking further questions to clear things up on the way the media and the liberals are running wild and spinning Kays words

41 posted on 01/27/2004 5:49:00 AM PST by Mo1 (Join the dollar a day crowd now!)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Only kooks think Bush mislead the US and they're voting Dem anyway. What independents want to know is who is held responsible for this failure?
42 posted on 01/27/2004 5:51:19 AM PST by GraniteStateConservative ("You can dip a pecan in gold, but it's still a pecan"-- Deep Thoughts by JC Watts)
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To: cripplecreek
I've already seen comments in other forums that the White House had "gotten" to kay.

Well, he did tearfully say at the end of the interview "if my daughter can see this, I want her to know that I love her, and that she should stay strong, and that every hour brings us closer to her."

Just kidding! ;-)

43 posted on 01/27/2004 5:52:58 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest
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To: McGruff
Kay thinks there is a possibility (possibly a strong one) that parts of the WMD program were shipped elsewhere (equipment, starter chemicals, notes, etc.). There's no evidence that stockpiles were shipped elsewhere.
44 posted on 01/27/2004 5:53:07 AM PST by GraniteStateConservative ("You can dip a pecan in gold, but it's still a pecan"-- Deep Thoughts by JC Watts)
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To: undeniable logic
What intrigues me is the part that the sons would have played or did play in the WMD programs or possible sale of them to terrorists.

After the sanctions would have been lifted, no telling what these wackos could have done, with Bin Ladens millions.
45 posted on 01/27/2004 5:53:27 AM PST by roses of sharon
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To: Wphile
ping to Kay's remarks on Today show
46 posted on 01/27/2004 5:55:10 AM PST by prairiebreeze (WMD's in Iraq -- The absence of evidence isn't evidence of absence.)
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To: cyncooper
As others have mentioned, it will be fascinating to see how the liberal media report on Kay's remarkable statements. I expect them, and the Dem candidates, to largely ignore them.
47 posted on 01/27/2004 5:55:50 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest
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To: undeniable logic; governsleastgovernsbest
...Saddam had the intention of developing WMDs, paid huge somes [sic] of money following his intention, and actually believed that he had them.

Ah, that would be the great military strategist that Saddam is (or was?)

BTTT for Excellent work: Providing classic material like this to those of us without the ability (and possibly the desire) to watch the show. This should be headline news around the world, but unfortunately it will probably only be here on FR :(

48 posted on 01/27/2004 5:55:51 AM PST by InShanghai (I was born on the crest of a wave, and rocked in the cradle of the deep.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Good read. Thanks for writing and posting that.
49 posted on 01/27/2004 5:56:01 AM PST by Prodigal Son
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To: toolbreaker
Kay's similar quotes have been all over different media for three days now.

I and one or two other freepers have been pointing them out and not even fellow freepers seemed much interested until this 3rd or 4th Kay interview...

It's been reported for days now, is my point.
50 posted on 01/27/2004 5:56:15 AM PST by cyncooper
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