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Not Nixon's War - Something Else (John Kerry's Killing Fields)
MensNewsDaily ^ | Jan.27, 2004 | Bruce Walker

Posted on 01/27/2004 3:09:12 PM PST by Nix 2

Not Nixon's War - Something Else
Bruce Walker, 01/27/04

The day after the Iowa caucus, I wrote an article entitled "Is John Kerry a Good Democrat? Is John Kerry a Good Man?" It took me only one day to answer both question. In his victory speech after the Iowa triumphant, Kerry spoke of "Richard Nixon's War." That, sadly, answered every question about this particular incarnation of Leftist evil.

Richard Nixon's War? Kerry served in Vietnam when Lyndon Baines Johnson was president not when Richard Nixon was president. The Vietnam War had been a big political issue, but that issue was first presented to the American people in 1964, not 1968.

Lyndon Johnson and his crooked flacks within the Democrat Party smeared one of the most decent and noble men in American politics, Barry Goldwater, by pretending that Goldwater would do just what Johnson had planned to do: fight a war in Vietnam.

What was the difference? The same difference that divides Kerry from President Bush today, and which has always divided Republicans from Democrats. Republicans are reluctant to begin wars, but if we are in a war, the Republican strategy is that America decisively win.

Goldwater did not lie to the American people like Johnson did in 1964. Barry Goldwater correctly observed that America was headed toward a land war in Asia and the way to win the Vietnam War was to win the Vietnam War. We could win the war through the unrestricted use of air and naval power.

No one in 1964 needed to guess whether a communist sponsored insurgency could be contained effectively in Southeast Asia. Britain had just done precisely that in Malaya. The Philippines, with American help, had done so in that complex archipelago. Soon the people of Indonesia would remove the communist-leaning leader of that enormous archipelago as well

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South Vietnam never fell to communist insurgents. It fell to panzer divisions coming out of a very well supplied North Vietnam, which was essentially all of the military power in this so-called "Civil War." The key was to stop the totalitarian thugs of Hanoi from waging a conventional war behind the safe haven of the borders of North Vietnam.

Goldwater explained how. Mine Haiphong Harbor, the point of entrance for nearly all the indispensable supplies that the communists received to prosecute their war. Attack with overwhelming air power the air defenses of North Vietnam and then the infrastructure of North Vietnam.

This was similar to how tactical and operational air power was able to largely win the war against a very good and well equipped German Army in the Second World War. Air power broke the Berlin Blockade in 1948. It was how President Reagan was able to drive Qadafi into pacificist.

The use of air power by military men who knew how to use it was also how American defeated the fourth largest and most battle tested army in the world in Desert Storm. It is how Afghanistan was liberated without America even having forces in contiguous nations. The mere threat of air power being used with devastating effect was how America ousted the Baathist butchers with few casualties.

Although air power involved the risk of some casualties, the loss of life was one hundred times smaller than land forces. The use of naval power involved almost no risk of American casualties at all. American battleships could shell most of the coastal strip that is North Vietnam with virtual impunity, and the mining of Haiphong Harbor could probably have been accomplished with no loss of American life at all.

Johnson was, of course, a coward. He was a dishonest coward as well. The micro-management of the Vietnam War from Washington was a mistake of unthinkable proportions. American soldiers fight best when given initiative. Our fighting men and their officers were hamstrung by Leftists afraid of offending our allies (sound familiar?) and alienating those who were already our enemies.

Nixon inherited the Democrats' War. A few days before the November 1968 Election, Johnson launched the only clear "October Surprise" when he suddenly decided that it would be a good thing to stop bombing North Vietnam at all, and unilaterally stopped. This gave Hubert Humphrey a bounce, which was what was intended, and thousands of America's sons died or were injured because of that.

Nixon also, of course, negotiated a peace treaty (some "Nixon War, huh?) This peace may well have worked, except for one problem: Leftist Democrats blocked Nixon at every turn in fighting this war inherited from two Democrat presidents. After Nixon resigned, Kerry and other Leftists did something even more awful. They prevented South Korea from getting military aid (not troops or pilots) which had been solemnly promised to them.

So the panzer divisions entered Saigon, now Ho Chi Minh City, and all the non-communist nations of Southeast Asia which had been involved in this long war fell to communism. Then communists did exactly what Barry Goldwater and countless other conservatives warned. The communists began a bloodbath.

Worst hit was what happened in Cambodia under Pol Pot and Khieu Samphan. The communists began one of the most brutal holocausts in human history, but with a spin. The Holocaust of Jews and Gentiles by the Nazis was unavoidable; we did all we could just to defeat this grave threat. The Gulag and the Tibetan holocausts were impossible to prevent without a potential world war.

The Khmer Rouge in Cambodia, by contrast, were a tenth rate military power with a long coastline. America could have defeated them in a few weeks, and saved millions of Cambodian men, women and children for a sadistic and long genocide. We did not exactly because John Kerry and other Leftist used their enormous clout in Congress to hamstring our nation.

No, Senator Kerry, it was not "Richard Nixon's War," it was Lyndon Johnson's War. But the blood and agony of millions of Cambodians was the handiwork of you and your friends. Not "Richard Nixon's War" but rather "John Kerry's Killing Fields."

If you had come back from Vietnam determined to stop communism, then millions of innocents would have been spared, but you went for the opposing Nixon - How bold! How brave! No one who was anyone was opposing Nixon...wait...I have that backwards: anyone who was anything was opposing Nixon.

You were brave, once, and only in the sense of physical courage, never moral courage. Senator Kerry, you have share bravery under fire with some pretty important people: Adolph Hitler, Benito Mussolini, Mao Tse Tung and Attila the Hun.

War heroes are good for a nation, all other things being equal. But all things are not equal when John Kerry, the richest man in the Senate, can look at Americans whose fathers, sons, brothers and husbands died in a noble cause can pretend that this was “Richard Nixon’s War.” No, Senator Kerry. You are a liar. It was not “Richard Nixon’s War.” It was “John Kerry’s Killing Fields.”



TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Government; Miscellaneous; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2004; barrygoldwater; courage; coward; evil; fonda; goldwater; johnson; kerry; leftist; lyndonbjohnson; lyndonjohnson; moral; nixon; not; vietnam
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John Kerry.

It is my business, the business of every Patriotic American, and every Military Veteran to revile and repudiate this Playboy-made, Kennedy-backed, lying dog. His antics upon his return from Vietnam, (his *medals* notwithstanding,) he proceeded to help prolong the war and many thousands of our Servicemen were killed as a result of him and his friends. Playboy fabricated a political image for him and it continues to this day.

His image is a lie.

1 posted on 01/27/2004 3:09:15 PM PST by Nix 2
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To: Nix 2; cyborg; Lil'freeper; hellinahandcart
Indeed it is.
2 posted on 01/27/2004 3:18:12 PM PST by sauropod (What happens at CPAC stays at CPAC)
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To: Nix 2
AMEN
3 posted on 01/27/2004 3:18:59 PM PST by cyborg
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To: Nix 2
Let me see...Kerry was on the US side in Vietnam and then he switched to the communists side. And he is different from Benedict Arrnold because...? I detest the man.


4 posted on 01/27/2004 3:24:25 PM PST by Jaxter ("Vivit Post Funera Virtus")
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To: A Citizen Reporter; ABG(anybody but Gore); Angelwood; arazitjh; b4its2late; backhoe; bamafour; ...
Must Read.
5 posted on 01/27/2004 3:24:42 PM PST by Neets (Complainers change their complaints, but they never reduce the amount of time spent in complaining.~)
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To: cyborg; sauropod
Thanks for the ping list. I don't have one, but Kerry can NOT be allowed anywhere near the White House, even as a visitor. Hate is a strong word, but that man is worth all the strength I can throw behind it.
6 posted on 01/27/2004 3:26:21 PM PST by Nix 2 (http://www.warroom.com QUINN AND ROSE from 6-10 AM-104.7 FM in da Burgh&WWVA AM)
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To: Nix 2
He's scum. I concur.
7 posted on 01/27/2004 3:27:45 PM PST by cyborg
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To: Nix 2
"His image is a lie"

Yes, but that chin of his is real!
8 posted on 01/27/2004 3:29:27 PM PST by Arpege92
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To: Neets
Nita, there's a lot of truth in this article, and the memory of those days still makes me angry. Better leave it at that....
9 posted on 01/27/2004 3:29:29 PM PST by Molly Pitcher
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To: Neets
Cross-linked it to these:

-John Kerry- some selected, informative links...--

10 posted on 01/27/2004 3:36:59 PM PST by backhoe (Jf'nK)
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To: Neets
Thanks, Nita.
11 posted on 01/27/2004 3:36:59 PM PST by lysie
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To: Nix 2
I agree! As an escapee from the Communistwealth of Massachusetts, I think that "John Forbes Kohn", I mean, John Forbes Kerry is "a lying dog."
12 posted on 01/27/2004 3:42:17 PM PST by Joe Marine 76 (BUSH 2004!)
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To: Nix 2
Kerry wants it both ways...Now he is pushing his hero status,then he came back ,anti war,slandered his comrades in arms,gave aid and comfort to the enemy and rubbed shoulders with Jane Fonda.

He is not what he says he is.
13 posted on 01/27/2004 3:42:34 PM PST by MEG33 (America will never seek a permission slip to provide for the security of our country)
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To: Nix 2
BTTT
14 posted on 01/27/2004 3:42:40 PM PST by neverdem (Xin loi min oi)
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To: Neets
Thanks for posting the MUST READ on the scum Kerry! I just sent the link out to my email list. It definitely is a must read!
15 posted on 01/27/2004 3:51:44 PM PST by bevlar (You ALWAYS kill the thread Bev - so why do you post ?)
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To: Nix 2
How could Kerry criticize Johnson. Johnson had a Silver Star!!!
16 posted on 01/27/2004 3:52:40 PM PST by Hon
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To: Nix 2
HIS IMAGE IS A WEASEL!
17 posted on 01/27/2004 3:56:26 PM PST by fatal (4th I.D.)
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To: Nix 2
Nice twist, but overly simplistice and not believeable to people who have lived through (or even read about) the Vietnam war. We're going to have to tone down the "Treason" and tone up the "terribly misguided" if we want this to take off.
18 posted on 01/27/2004 3:56:40 PM PST by Zeroisanumber
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To: All
Mr. Walker has written a great article.

Just as the left and their mindless liberal minions scream about exit strategies today they screamed about Nixon's peace plan to end the war with honor. Where was it? they demanded incessantly. Everyday on network news: "Where was it?!!"

But it was an "issue" that was not an issue as defined by David Horowitz. The left had no interest then as now in "peace with honor." The "issue" of Nixon's peace plan was a weapon to attack America. Defeat of America and victory for communism was the left's goal then.

Humiliation of America is the goal today. Discrediting the President's unilateral actions and submission to the U.N. or Europe's chattering class is the left's goal.

The only issue for the left is the destruction of America's sovereignty and military.

19 posted on 01/27/2004 3:57:13 PM PST by WilliamofCarmichael
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To: Jaxter
Is this real or Photoshop? If real, what's the source. No antagonism intended. If we can verify it, it should be spread everywhere with the real source. It would also be great to blow up into posters and show at political rallies, including Kerry's. That's why it must be authenticated.
20 posted on 01/27/2004 4:03:23 PM PST by libstripper
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To: Zeroisanumber
RE: "Nice twist, but overly simplistice and not believeable to people who have lived through (or even read about) the Vietnam war."

What part is not believable? Did you "live through or even read (and what did you read?) about the Vietnam war."

21 posted on 01/27/2004 4:03:58 PM PST by WilliamofCarmichael
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To: libstripper
Real or not it was the mainstream media's habit of describing the Viet Cong flag as a "red, blue, and yellow" protest banner.
So being photographed with a "protest" banner was no big deal.
22 posted on 01/27/2004 4:08:34 PM PST by WilliamofCarmichael
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To: Nix 2

23 posted on 01/27/2004 4:10:37 PM PST by binger
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To: Zeroisanumber
Did Jane Fonda commit treason by sitting on a tank outside the Hanoi Hilton that was full of American POWs? If so, then Kerry is all the more because he was there and he knew what she did, but came back and joined her. Got our guys murdered.
BS to "misguided." CHILDREN are misguided. Kerry was a traitor and a liar. For that matter, if he could GET worse, he is now because he is using those lies to call himself a hero and try to lay claim to the White House as Commander in Chief of the country he so desparaged...
Hefner and Playboy built him from the ground up. Welcome to the *mansion.*
24 posted on 01/27/2004 4:12:02 PM PST by Nix 2 (http://www.warroom.com QUINN AND ROSE from 6-10 AM-104.7 FM in da Burgh&WWVA AM)
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To: Nix 2
Kerry simply lacks any personal integrity.
25 posted on 01/27/2004 4:18:48 PM PST by RLK
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To: Nix 2
bump.
26 posted on 01/27/2004 4:23:27 PM PST by jonno (We are NOT a democracy - though we are democratic. We ARE a constitutional republic.)
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To: libstripper
It's probably Photoshopped. But that doesn't change the fact that Kerry was on the VC/NVA side. I found the pic and other Kerry info here.
27 posted on 01/27/2004 4:28:29 PM PST by Jaxter ("Vivit Post Funera Virtus")
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To: Nix 2
If so, then Kerry is all the more because he was there and he knew what she did, but came back and joined her. Got our guys murdered.

It's obvious that you're passionate about Vietnam and about Vietnam protestors. However you might feel about the subject, the average American (that magical 7.5% of the voters who decide the election) believes that the Vietnam war was immoral, stupid, and wasteful. War protestors (well...not Jane Fonda) are generally seen as noble, idealistic, and on the side of right. No one is going to believe that John Kerry and the other war protestors "murdered" anybody, and our saying so isn't going to make it any easier for Bush to get re-elected.

Christ man, what are you going to say when Kerry spins this back as a "Veterans benefits" thing? When he has Ron freaking Kovic rolling up to the microphone to speak about how bad things were at VA hospitals before VVAW and how things improved thanks to Kerry and others like him?

How, in a nation that has been brought up to despise the wrongness of the Vietnam war, are you going to attack Kerry from the right? This is not going to work, and could very well spin back on us.

28 posted on 01/27/2004 4:37:19 PM PST by Zeroisanumber
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To: Zeroisanumber
I think the only leg this story has is Kerrys contention that it was 'Nixons war.' That is a lie. Not only didn't Nixon start that war, he pulled us out of it. I am not sure what logic he is using...but I would like to see someone ask him in a debate.
29 posted on 01/27/2004 4:45:51 PM PST by NeonKnight
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To: NeonKnight
I think the only leg this story has is Kerrys contention that it was 'Nixons war.' That is a lie. Not only didn't Nixon start that war, he pulled us out of it. I am not sure what logic he is using...but I would like to see someone ask him in a debate.

Blah...Vietnam wasn't Nixon's war, but since Kerry's a Democrat he uses the Republican as a convienient donkey to pin it on. Not too unusual, when you think about it we did the same thing to Clinton over Somalia.

30 posted on 01/27/2004 5:07:26 PM PST by Zeroisanumber
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To: Zeroisanumber
Yes, Somalia was an odd little adventure that nobody really understood anyway. I do hold daddy Bush responsible for that one. I know it was sold as humanitarian...but there was no real plan to solve the crises. I don't think Marines can do much about poverty. But it was nowhere near the scale of VN. I think we lost around 20 lives.
31 posted on 01/27/2004 5:19:29 PM PST by NeonKnight
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To: Zeroisanumber
You are nuts, man. Clinton changed the Mission in Somalia. What happened in Mogadishu can be lain directly at his feet. Don't try to teach a history you don't know anything about. So far, you have defended a traitor, (Kerry) defended another traitor, (Clinton,) and frankly, I am beginning to wonder about YOU! Zero is a very good number if you are counting nothing.
32 posted on 01/27/2004 5:20:05 PM PST by Nix 2 (http://www.warroom.com QUINN AND ROSE from 6-10 AM-104.7 FM in da Burgh&WWVA AM)
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To: NeonKnight
It was Clinton that decided we would not protect ourselves in Somalia, not Bush. Clinton was about *nation building.* Bush was about delivering food to starving people, but he didn't leave our troops in the lurch without the necessary means to defend themselves. Clinton did. Do some history.
33 posted on 01/27/2004 5:24:34 PM PST by Nix 2 (http://www.warroom.com QUINN AND ROSE from 6-10 AM-104.7 FM in da Burgh&WWVA AM)
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To: Nix 2
I know Clinton changed the mission in Somalia, but what was the original mission? The whole thing was a mistake.
34 posted on 01/27/2004 5:27:59 PM PST by NeonKnight
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To: Nix 2
When we start using the Marines for humanitarian missions, we are abusing the Marines. It's not what they do. I liked George H W Bush, but sending the Marines to Somalia was a mistake.
35 posted on 01/27/2004 5:29:50 PM PST by NeonKnight
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To: Zeroisanumber
How, in a nation that has been brought up to despise the wrongness of the Vietnam war..

What nation might that be? The war wasn't wrong. The politicians who RAN it were wrong, and more than several were criminally wrong. But the war was right, and we should have, would have won had it not been the political correctness of pols scared of the reallll far left. It was Walter Cronkite who almost singlehandedly turned the Tet Victory into an *American Loss.* History is a b*tch. The truth doesn't change no matter how you spin it.

36 posted on 01/27/2004 5:37:54 PM PST by Nix 2 (http://www.warroom.com QUINN AND ROSE from 6-10 AM-104.7 FM in da Burgh&WWVA AM)
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To: Nix 2
Actually, we did win. They picked the wrong side. The Soviet Union no longer exists, and the Chinese have nothing but contempt for the Vietnamese.

Meanwhile, most countries that have chosen to side with the US are doing quite well.

37 posted on 01/27/2004 5:43:39 PM PST by NeonKnight
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To: Nix 2
You are nuts, man. Clinton changed the Mission in Somalia. What happened in Mogadishu can be lain directly at his feet. Don't try to teach a history you don't know anything about. So far, you have defended a traitor, (Kerry) defended another traitor, (Clinton,) and frankly, I am beginning to wonder about YOU!

I'm not going to debate the rightness or wrongness of the Bush41/Clinton produced idiocy that lead up to the debacle in Somalia. We shouldn't have been there (Bush41), and we shouldn't have stayed (Clinton). The point of my post had absolutely nothing to do with who did what, but rather when it was done.

Much like Somalia, the Vietnam war was a monumental waste of good men, money, time, and effort. It was a stupid attempt to fight a stupid war for the stupid French under suicidal restrictions. In my humble and rational opinion we should take those responsible for starting, promoting, and refusing to end the goddamn debacle, flambe them and dump their bodies into a sewage canal (this goes for both Vietnam AND Somalia).

Guys like Kerry and Kovic are on the other side of the aisle from me, we disagree about things like guns, economics, and the need to sometimes drop bombs and shoot people; but in the case for Vietnam, they were spot on. They wern't traitors, I'm certainly not a traitor, and I'm pretty sick of being called one by armchair jurists with a Tom Clancy novel understanding of politics, and history.

38 posted on 01/27/2004 5:51:36 PM PST by Zeroisanumber
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To: Zeroisanumber
RE: "Not too unusual, when you think about it we did the same thing to Clinton over Somalia."

Okay, you cannot substantiate your Vietnam feeeeeeeeeeeeelings (see my post above, please), how about Somalia? President Bush sent aid there owing almost entirely to CNN's wall-to-wall coverage of the very real human problems there.

Later under Clinton it bacame a "nation building" effort. Remember the issue of "mission creep?"

"we did the same thing to Clinton over Somalia" is simply wrong. Yes, there was justified criticism of Clinton but saying "we did the same thing to Clinton over Somalia" vis-a-vis conservative crticism of 1960s liberals is wrong.

39 posted on 01/27/2004 5:55:57 PM PST by WilliamofCarmichael
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To: WilliamofCarmichael
There is still a humanitarian crises in Somalia. You wanna send in the Marines? If it is not a good idea now, why was it a good idea then? I said I liked GHWB, but if you are going to claim he did it because of CNN coverage, I may have to rethink it.
40 posted on 01/27/2004 6:02:21 PM PST by NeonKnight
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To: WilliamofCarmichael
Okay, you cannot substantiate your Vietnam feeeeeeeeeeeeelings (see my post above, please), how about Somalia? President Bush sent aid there owing almost entirely to CNN's wall-to-wall coverage of the very real human problems there.

Mother warned me not to feed to board trolls. She also warned me not to write two long posts trying to make a point to people who don't want a point to be made. My considered position (not "librul feeeeeelings" as you would have it) is illustrated in post 38, both on Vietnam and Somalia.

41 posted on 01/27/2004 6:10:39 PM PST by Zeroisanumber
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To: Zeroisanumber
RE: "Mother warned me"

The old "hide behind mommy" trick. Okay.

42 posted on 01/27/2004 6:15:48 PM PST by WilliamofCarmichael
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To: Zeroisanumber
the average American (that magical 7.5% of the voters who decide the election) believes that the Vietnam war was immoral, stupid, and wasteful.

I don't think 7.5% of voters constitutes the average American. Even so, those ignorant enough to believe that the Vietnam war was immoral, stupid, and wasteful, believe it because of lies told by Kerry and others. Those who know the truth are not so easily fooled.

43 posted on 01/27/2004 6:21:25 PM PST by BykrBayb (Temporary tagline. Applied to State of New Jersey for permanent tagline (12/24/03).)
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To: NeonKnight
RE: "You wanna send in the Marines?"

Where did I say I wanted to send in the Marines? It's a fact that that CNN's coverage of the human suffering and the resultant public pressure virtually forced the Bush administration to act quickly. He used the military.

Guess I'm going to have to go googling to find those "CNN made him do it" articles. If necessary. :)

44 posted on 01/27/2004 6:21:58 PM PST by WilliamofCarmichael
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To: WilliamofCarmichael
Not necessary. I think you agree it was a stupid thing to do. Probably Bush I's biggest mistake. I actually consider him one of the great Presidents in the last half century. The press didn't like him and he wasn't very photogenic, but he built the largest coalition this planet has ever seen...and for a worthy cause. GHWB was a good man.
45 posted on 01/27/2004 6:28:38 PM PST by NeonKnight
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To: Nix 2
This statement was not an error on Kerry's part, he knows his history. He planted the seed in the minds of people who do not know better. This was a deliberate and intentional re-writing of history. His hope is to tie Nixon and Bush together as Republican war dogs, because if he can clone them on war issues, he can then clone them in issues of trust. This is subliminal politicing at it's best.
46 posted on 01/27/2004 6:29:56 PM PST by Toespi
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To: BykrBayb
I don't think 7.5% of voters constitutes the average American. Even so, those ignorant enough to believe that the Vietnam war was immoral, stupid, and wasteful, believe it because of lies told by Kerry and others. Those who know the truth are not so easily fooled.

Given the size of the protest movement at the end of the war and the general opposition of most of the population, I don't think that it's a case of the many being led by the few.

Also, look at pop culture: "Forrest Gump", "Platoon", "We Were Soldiers", "First Blood(Rambo)", The Things They Carried etc. The prevailing attitude is that the war was hell for all involved and we would have been better off if we'd never have gone.

47 posted on 01/27/2004 6:39:21 PM PST by Zeroisanumber
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To: Nix 2
Kerry's uniform reminds me of Hawkeye in M.A.S.H.

I was in my early teens when the anti-war protest was in full swing. At that time, I thought it was chic damning the war. I didn't know the consequences it would have. I looked up Jane Fonda in google. I saw her radio speech she made in Hanoi. I can't believe she said all that and she believed it! That was aid and comfort to the enemy! In '99 she said she was sorry and made a mistake...but she was 35 years old when she was appeasing the enemy back then. Old enough to know better. She caused a lot of suffering for many.
48 posted on 01/27/2004 6:39:30 PM PST by Milligan
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To: NeonKnight
RE: Not necessary

I want to. Googling is the only exercise I get. :^)

The CNN factor was the conventional assumption that "emotive TV coverage of the humanitarian disaster in Somalia in late summer and early fall 1992 was pivotal in forcing President Bush to approve a U.S. involvement." But not everyone agreed.

"Humanitarian Crises and U.S. Foreign Policy: Somalia and the CNN Effect Reconsidered," by Steve Livingston and Todd Eachus, Political Communication, Vol. 12 (1995): pp. 413 -- 429. See also "The CNN Effect: How Much Influence Does the 24-Hour News Network Really Have on Foreign Policy," by Warren P. Strobel, American Journalism Review, May 1996, pp. 32 -- 37. Strobel confirms Gowing's finding (see note 4) and details what he calls the "five myths" of the CNN effect and its claimed impact on the making of foreign policy.

49 posted on 01/27/2004 6:40:13 PM PST by WilliamofCarmichael
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To: Zeroisanumber
Then again, people who are so wrong they can't make right just scamper away and call people who disagree with them trolls.
Let me tell you something. It was John Kennedy who sent Americans to Vietnam. It was John Kennedy who had South Vietnam's president assassinated to put a *Christian* government in there. It was Johnson who escalated it to mega-proportions. All those things were wrong, but the underlying reason for going there in the first place was legit. Communism is cruel and genocidal.
France, of course, great allies that they have always been, did their usual double deal and ran.
Having said that, Americans do not go to war to lose...and we should NEVER have let up on the North, or Laos, or Cambodia. Millions died, and of course, it was their own governments killing them...so I guess that should have been okay with us, only genocide was not our cup of tea. I am talking about average, free, American Patriots TRYING to save entire populations, even in the face of our own corrupt politicians. Our Soldiers were not immoral. The justification was already there without the corrupting political interference, and our Soldiers should have had the full victory they deserved. Kerry and his ilk were worms and did a tremendous amount of damage to our Vets.
People like you blame the guys who put their lives on the line and say it was all wrong. It wasn't. They fought for the freedom of others regardless, and in spite of, the corruption in high places. But never have so many given so much and come home to be spat upon by the likes of Kerry and company.
Now!!!
Shut up!!!!
50 posted on 01/27/2004 6:45:00 PM PST by Nix 2 (http://www.warroom.com QUINN AND ROSE from 6-10 AM-104.7 FM in da Burgh&WWVA AM)
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