Rough Ride - Protect Our Border's - Fight Illegal Immigration {{{Ongoing Thread}}}

Southern Poverty Law Center ^ | 1-29-04 | Bob Moser

[JustPiper]

Being I do not want this to be assumed as a vanity thread I am posting a legitimate article that was recently brought to my attention.

This article has upset me greatly. When the Freedom Bus Ride was ongoing, we had an ongoing thread posted by EternalWarming. On this thread I posted an after Freep report my daughter and I attended in Chicago. On this thread someone also posted an inflammatory picture which was removed but we tastelessly laughed at it.

We had someone, that obviously was a DU and threatened us but singled myself out, with reporting it to Southern Poverty Law Center that I in fact was a hate monger. As many poster's this person was a hit/miss. I attended this Freep back in June. And this article has a few paragraphs about me, one of which is exactly what I posted. The second, is apparently doctored and quite contrary to my post. I cleared this in order to be able to post it.

Credit to thecabal for the above logo

Today begins an ongoing thread to add your links, important news,legislative happenings etc. all regarding the protection of our borders. There are now so many articles and news stories that it is good to have one place to view it all.

I will start off this thread with saying I believe we all need to contact our state representatives and those is our party who need to know this is not a one-horse issue that will go away.I have stated that all it takes is one issue to start a domino effect and the entire administration could fall apart. None of us wants that to happen. We also need to contact the media and make sure the democratic spin on this is not for political advantage. This issue is closely correlated with the War On Terror for terrorist's are using our open border's against us the same way they used commercial flights to attack us on 911.

Being I do not want this to be assumed as a vanity thread I am posting a legitimate article that was recently brought to my attention.

Here is the story:

Anti-immigration activists confront a pro-migrant freedom ride — joined by some of America's leading neo-Nazi groups

Exerpted:

On the sparkling afternoon of Oct. 3, 18 buses carrying more than 900 Immigrant Workers Freedom Riders rolled into New Jersey's Liberty State Park. The riders, many of them illegal immigrant workers from Central America, had boarded the buses nearly two weeks before in 10 different U.S. cities.

Inspired by the 1961 Freedom Rides for black civil rights, they'd made more than 100 stops in small towns and big cities to promote their reform agenda: greater workplace protections, reunification of immigrant families, and a "road to citizenship" for America's estimated 8 to 10 million undocumented workers.

Some of the protests had been lonely, with one or two anti-immigration activists holding signs with slogans like "Being Illegal Is Not a Civil Right." But at upwards of a dozen Freedom Ride stops, the anti-immigration activists had been joined by members of the nation's largest white-supremacist hate groups — all of whom had come together for today's demonstration.

Their arguments often sounded similar. Like Turner and many hate-group leaders, the powerful Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR) and Center for Immigration Studies (CIS) called for federal officials to arrest the undocumented Freedom Riders.

"Any event that advertises the participation of illegal aliens ought to be raided, and the illegal aliens deported," Mark Krikorian of CIS told the Miami Herald.

At a Chicago rally, where members of the white-supremacist Council of Conservative Citizens and the neo-Nazi White Revolution appeared along with members of mainstream anti-immigration groups, protesters held signs saying, "No more free rides. No more welfare. No more stolen jobs."

This is where I need to interject ...The first highlighted paragraph 'is' in fact what I posted in my after Freep report

For many of the anti-immigration protesters, rallying side-by-side with neo-Nazis and Klansmen was too close for comfort. "Turns out we were smack in the middle of a damn white supremacist group!" an anti-immigration activist calling erself "JustPiper" complained on an Internet chat site after the Chicago counter-demonstration.

This is obviosuly what the DU troll rewrote from the rest of my report for me and sent it to SPLC

But what really got under JustPiper's skin seemed to be the Freedom Riders, not the neo-Nazis from White Revolution. "[T]hese banditos kept screaming obscenities and threats at us," she claimed. "Lemme tellya, they were just coming with signs like cockroaches!"

I've posted thousands of replies and articles here and never have I said something so idiotic or silly like this. I have made a derogatory remark about illegals offhanded saying they were reproducing like some creature. And yes I posted they were yelling threats and obsecenities at my daughter and I. But we stayed silent holding our poster's in front of us. Also we left the group when a federal agent (This was in front of the Federal Building)told us we were standing by white supremacist's which means now both side's were scaring us and we went to stand with some police officer's who knew our dual plight. So people firsthand I am feeling the sting and I will not back down from the illegal immigrant issue!

Now onto links:

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Contact your local media and the following of your choice:

ABC NEWS
BOSTON GLOBE
CBS
CHICAGO SUN-TIMES
FOX NEWS
NY TIMES
USA TODAY
WASHINGTON TIMES
WORLD NET DAILY

LOU DOBBS -EXPORTING AMERICA

Scarborough Country

MICHELLE MALKIN

PAT BUCHANAN

[JustPiper]

For so many of you who have fought this fight for so long, I applaud you and know our resources collectively will make us a contention to deal with in Washington.

I only ask that the flaming and arguments be kept out of this thread and chitchat kept minimal. This is meant to be an informative thread on the issue of keeping our country safe.

[JustPiper]

PING for our NEW Daily Home

[JustPiper]

P I N G

[JustPiper]

Tancredo Ping!

[JustPiper]

Homeland Defense Petition

I urge you you if you have not signed this petition please do!

[JustPiper]

Contact FAIR

Numbers USA

[Pro-Bush]

I am here to help! ..Just let me know. Illegal Immigration is the number one weakness with our President's domestic policy. It is a threat to our culture, religion, and english language which drives our success as a country! I am tired of this administration turning the other cheek, as you are. God bless you!

[JustPiper]

GOVERNMENT LINKS
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U.S. House of Representatives
http://www.house.gov/

U.S. Senate
http://www.senate.gov/

White House
http://www.whitehouse.gov/

Republican National Committee
http://www.rnc.org/

U.S. Department of Homeland Security
http://www.dhs.gov/dhspublic/

The Congressional Immigration Reform Caucus
http://www.house.gov/tancredo/Immigration/

[JustPiper]

God Bless You my friend! And please add daily what you know!

[JustPiper]

LaRaza Or Lulac my friend, much as you can get!

[JustPiper]

Important links to get started:

"Speakout: Many Hispanics Support Tancredo "
http://www.tancredo.org/extra/speakout.htm

Arabs still enter U.S. illegally from Mexico
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1040495/posts?page=43

Before opening the borders, seal up the wombs!
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1058592/posts?q=1&&page=1

God Help The Republic - My Favorite Headache
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1053428/posts

Help Block The Rove Amnesty Plan In Congress (Part II), Contact YOUR Congressman
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1053380/posts

[JustPiper]

Homeland INSecurity Blanket
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1053428/posts?page=167#167

How Bush could lose it
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1064954/posts?page=396

IMMIGRATION'S HUMAN COST
http://www.immigrationshumancost.org/text/crimevictims.html

Joe Scarborough Real Deal - Mexico looks a gift horse in the mouth
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1057941/posts?page=1

Lou Dobbs Covers Immigration
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1054553/posts

LOU DOBBS TONIGHT - 1/12/04 - Made in America
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1056910/posts

Rush Limbaugh: "Immigration Proposal Roils America"
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1053544/posts

[JustPiper]

Scarborough : Rewriting the rules on immigration
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1053718/posts

Scarborough Country - Joe is a Champion for our causes!
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/Default.aspx?id=3036789&p1=0

The Tres Amigos - Kolbe, Flake, McCain
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1054015/posts

[JustPiper]

Ping!

[JustPiper]

Ping please

[JustPiper]

Ping!

[JustPiper]

COMING TO AMERICA

Illegals rise 15% since Bush plan Border Patrol seeing increase in attempts at busiest crossing
Posted: January 29, 2004

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=36831

[JustPiper]

Democrats offer plan on aliens
By Amy Fagan THE WASHINGTON TIMES

House Democrats yesterday proposed granting legal residency and the {{{eventual option of U.S. citizenship}}}to millions of illegal immigrants now working in the United States.

http://www.washtimes.com/national/20040129-122045-1558r.htm

[thecabal]

Sorry to see that you were setup like that. It's amazing how they can put quote marks around something that they heard you "said" from a third party. Typical tactics...lump you in the the worst of the worst.

[JustPiper]

U.S. had plans to suspend biometric border

WASHINGTON, Jan. 28 (UPI) -- A leaked memorandum Wednesday said there are contingency plans to suspend a new biometric U.S. border control system if lines at border get too long.

http://www.washtimes.com/upi-breaking/20040128-075835-5238r.htm

[thecabal]

Illegals rise 15% since Bush plan Border Patrol seeing increase in attempts at busiest crossing

I'm shocked I tell you. Shocked! Who could have predicted this? </sarcasm>

[Zipporah]

Those who are out to win on this issue (and I do NOT mean the people, good citizens of this country who have legitmate concerns) will use any tactic including lies and attempts to defame and label, will use any means to muzzle us. They are trying to do the same with Tancredo using any means possible to punish him for his stand. These sick tactics makes me even more strong in my resolve to write in Tancredo in the election. God Bless JustPiper.

[JustPiper]

And you my dear friend!

[JustPiper]

I fumed for a few hours when I got his in mail, then I laughed, my daughter was hysterical tonight because she said that is so not what you would say -g- but C, I'd love to see the face of that lousy author when he gets my email announcing "I'm that JustPiper you wrote about, how does libel suit sit with you?"

[thecabal]

I don't know that you can threaten them with libel, since they only identified you by your FR handle. Which sucks, because I hate seeing them get away with this crap.

[StonyBurk]

Can anything good come from the Southern Poverty Law center?
These are the racists who produced "Gathering Storm:Americas' militia threat" and the same wicked people who cellibrated Myron Thompsons Klannish decision in
Glassroth v.Moore.

[WilliamofCarmichael]

Not to worry, people we elect are looking out for us. Uh.. kind of. Part A of one campaign promise was kept, now for Part B.

http://www.sacbee.com/content/politics/ca/story/8174159p-9105617c.html

[Schwarzenegger] said he is working "very hard" with Sen. Gil Cedillo, D-Los Angeles, to come up with "a great bill" that would allow undocumented immigrants to obtain driver's licenses.

He blasted similar legislation signed last year by former Gov. Gray Davis and persuaded legislators to repeal the law immediately after taking office.

Schwarzenegger has said many times that once security and insurance issues can be resolved to his satisfaction he'd support a new bill, but his comments Tuesday were among his strongest on the prospect to date.

And he said he's not worried about opposition from fellow Republicans, many of whom threatened to ask voters to repeal the Davis-signed law if Schwarzenegger couldn't get the Legislature to do it.

"I'm talking to my Republican friends all the time about it and also to my Democratic friends," he said Tuesday. "We will do it."

[end excerpt]

Anyone who read his official campaign site knew this was coming. There was also speculation locally that the ease at which AB60 was repealed signaled a deal was struck to bring it back with "more safeguards."

[Ben Ficklin]

Tancredo says that any immigration reform bill that comes out of Congress will be worse than the Bush plan.

[Donna Lee Nardo]

Wow, JP, I didn't know you were such a troublemaker there in the good state of Illinios!

;)
:)

By the way, are you -m- or -g-?

[Dante3]

bttt

[truthkeeper]

Thanks for pinging me, JP. Your efforts to keep us informed on these stories are greatly appreciated. Here's a bttt for your hard work.

[JustPiper]

Since it was brought to my attention, I sure got a fast education on this group! I cannot believe they have FAIR on their hitlist as a 'hate group'! Who do they think they are?!

[JustPiper]

Immigration Reform -
Actively continued chairmanship of the Congressional Immigration Reform Caucus.

Introduced H.R. 3600, the National Border Security Agency Act.

Led effort in Congress to oppose further extensions of Section 245(i).

Chaired a hearing of the Congressional Immigration Reform Caucus.

Introduced H.R. 2712, the Mass Immigration Reduction Act of 2001.

Introduced H. Con. Res. 220, a resolution affirming the commitment of Congress to preserving the sovereignty of the United States and the integrity of its border.
Compiled a set of fourteen immigration reforms.

Rep. Tom Tancredo’s Four-Point Plan for Immigration Control - The United States has lost control over its immigration policy. Over one million persons enter our nation illegally each year and we have antiquated and error-prone systems for knowing who our legal visitors are and for enforcing their visa time limits. Every poll shows that over 75% of citizens support border security and strict enforcement of our immigration laws.

http://www.house.gov/tancredo/Immigration/

WRITE IN CONGRESSMAN TOM TANCREDO OF DENVER IN MARCH!

[JustPiper]

I wear a skirt -g-

[JustPiper]

FREEPER WINKER'S CREED

No Person can be considered a "Contributor" to America un-less they are Identified,fingerprinted, placed on the Tax rolls and Social Security with a permanent Address making them a legal Tax paying Citizen; subject to all the rights and provisions this Country provides to its citizens. Otherwise they continue to be a scab and a botch "WE THE PEOPLE"are obligated to support.

This is a pay as you go society and not a free lunch. If you live here you work here speak the FIRST Language and swear allegiance to the Constitution then you get to share equally in a system "EVERBODY" Supports and pays into! Time to come out of the woodworks and live in the open or follow your noses back across the Borders!

[JustPiper]

FARMERS FACE BUNCH OF TROUBLE (Free Trade Said Goodby to the American FARMERS)
ASSOCIATED PRESS ^ | January 28, 2004 | Juliana Barbassa
Posted on 01/28/2004 11:42:01 PM CST by fatso

FARMERS FACE BUNCH OF TROUBLE

Cheap imports threaten to nudge U.S. growers from the dinner table

FRESNO – America's growing appetite for cheap vegetables year round is feeding a steady rise in imports that is squeezing U.S. farmers, according to a recent U.S. Department of Agriculture study.

{{{OUTSOURCING}}}

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1067318/posts

[Donna Lee Nardo]

Then where does the -g- come from? I thought you were an -m- ?

[JustPiper]

Tancredo Warns the Social Security System Endangered by Bush’s "Totalization Agreement" with Mexico
Congressman Tom Tancredo
Posted on 01/29/2004 7:46:16 AM CST by Happy2BMe

A September 2003 GAO Report warns that the cost of the proposed agreement cannot be reliably estimated because the number of eligible Mexican workers in unknown and may number in the millions.

WASHINGTON, DC – Congressman Tom Tancredo (CO-06) today criticized President Bush’s proposal for allowing both legal and illegal Mexican workers to reclaim their Social Security contributions when they reach retirement age. "The President’s proposal bears no resemblance to the other agreements we already have with 20 other countries," said Tancredo. "Bringing illegal Mexican workers into the Social Security System not only rewards illegal behavior, it also further endangers the fiscal health of our Social Security System."

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1067471/posts

[JustPiper]

g or m = m or f? Help? ;) or grin or mad? DL!? -hehe-

[Donna Lee Nardo]

JP: I mean I thought you were an -m- as in Monica! But sometimes you sign off with -g- and I always wanted to ask you why.

[JustPiper]

Bush's immigration plan will have many negative effects
The Western Herald ^ | January 26, 2004 | Matt Hall
Posted on 01/29/2004 2:18:05 AM CST by The_Eaglet

Bush's immigration plan will have many negative effects

By Matt Hall
Opinion Columnist

January 26, 2004

President Bush's plan to allow our nation's estimated 8-12 million illegal immigrants to legally work is by far the most dangerous proposal of his administration and maybe even the most irresponsible presidential initiative in the average WMU student's lifetime.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1067378/posts

[Spiff]

The smears against me, on this issue, have only come from FReepers. That won't last long, I'm sure, because I've been recently getting quoted alot more in Arizona papers and elsewhere.

I want to add in here a link to the South East Arizona Republican Club for which I serve as President. This club is on the forefront of this issue. Among our members we enjoy such people as Homeland Hero (according to Tom Tancredo in a House speech) rancher Roger Barnett and his wife. We have LTC (ret) Jim Behnke who ran for Congress against RINO Jim Kolbe. We have AZ Rep. Randy Graf who is one of the organizers of the Protect Arizona Now Initiative and AZ House Majority Whip. Recently our members have been published and quoted in newspapers, magazines, and websites across the nation on the border issue. One of our members, Erin Anderson, just had a 3-part article she co-authored with William Hawkins published in FrontPage Magazine. Dave Stoddard made WorldNetDaily. The protest I organized against Jim Kolbe and the mock-up Border Patrol Agent with the Amnesty Knife in his back that I made has been featured in more places than I can list for you right now. Members have been interviewed for local newscast. Etcetera.

Speakers at our club meetings have included newsmakers such as Glenn Spencer of American Border Patrol, Kathy McKee of Protect Arizona Now, Chris Simcox of Civil Homeland Defense and others. And we get representatives from national organizations to come down to our tiny corner of Arizona and speak to us.

Our website is an excellent source for Republican news and views and it has a number of articles about the border issue.

I challenge anyone to find another Republican club that is this active on the border issue. And I was lucky (insane) enough to get elected a year ago to serve as the club's president. What a ride it has been.

[Bikers4Bush]

Nice work JP, keep it up!

[JustPiper]

RUSH the FREEPER

Rush Limbaugh Certified FReeper! EIB - Rush Limbaugh Show | Rush Limbaugh| Posted on 01/16/2004 1:53:24 PM CST by MindBender26| In 3d hour of today's Limbaugh show, Rush was referring to a newspaper article from California. Was having a little trouble remembering some mundane details of the story and remarked "I'm having a little trouble remembering all the details of the story. I got it off Free Republic this morning!"

Rush! Welcome...Welcome!

What took you so long buddy?

[JustPiper]

grin?

[Donna Lee Nardo]

Oh, ok! I didn't know that the "g" meant "grin!" I thought it was your first initial initially, but then recently you wrote your name as Monica. So I wondered...

[JustPiper]

As always great work Spiff. Keep it up, I know you will not let up! -smiles-

Rep. Kolbe (RINO-AZ) Sierra Vista Town Hall Met With Protests Against Amnesty (FReeper Organized) 16 January 2004 | Spiff
Posted on 01/16/2004 11:51:39 AM CST by Spiff

Kolbe/Bush Amnesty Proposals Protested!

SPIFF's Protest

[StonyBurk]

I suppose they think they are Americas' salvation. However
I do not think they have many within their ranks who are
Southern--nor who can relate to poverty--but it seems all
a scam constructed to enrich and empower carpetbagging
attoneys of the ACLU ilk.

[Nea Wood]

That article is such an outrage, I don't know where to begin! I wish you could sue him. It's hideous the way those of us who just want our laws enforced, we are the ones who are slammed and criticized and called vile names. Those who are actually breaking the laws cannot even be called "illegal" lest they be "offended." We truly live in an upside-down world.

[DustyMoment]

JP -

Worry not your troubled heart about the smear. I know it's infuriating and frustrating that you have no effective recourse for response, however, this issue is generating major response from Americans of all walks. Neither Bush/Rove, nor the idiots who believe that illegal immigrants are entitled to amnesty/citizenship will win this one. There are more of us than corrupt politicians who can stuff ballot boxes.

W is flat out wrong on this issue and will take a nose dive over this and the NEA funding issue. The excellent work you have done in staying on top of this issue inspires more of us to speak out against it. If we all write in Tom Tancredo in our state primaries instead of dutifully checking Bush for Pres., perhaps Bush/Rove will get the hint.

As I have maintained since Bush proposed his "immigration reform", if breaking the law is supposed to be beneficial for one segment of our society, think how spectacular it will be if we ALL break the law!!!

Either we are a nation of laws or we aren't; Bush can't have it both ways. If we aren't a nation of laws, Bush's proposed "immigration reform" will make us a nation of men.