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[Vanity Post] Any recommendations for good online technical education?
n/a ^ | 29 January 2004 | COBOL2Java

Posted on 01/29/2004 10:07:49 AM PST by COBOL2Java

I'm interested in any opinions that Technical Freepers may have about online technical distance education. I'm interested in keeping my technical skills up to date (approaching 20 years in IT) and I believe that my personal schedule would preclude in-class learning. My current career track is in the area of Technical Architecture, so I would like to delve more deeply into the nuts and bolts of Win2K, Windows Server 2003, .net, etc.

I've participated in distance education in the past and liked it a lot. A few of my forays include:

As you might gather from my comments, I would be footing the bill for much of this, so I'm reluctant to shell out a lot of dough. Any opinions? Thanks in advance for your input!


TOPICS: Technical; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: distanceed; technical

1 posted on 01/29/2004 10:07:51 AM PST by COBOL2Java
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To: COBOL2Java
A tremendous way to learn skills is to participate the discussion groups, read the posts, contribute, ask questions, answer the ones you know. If you are into Java, go to www.javaranch.org.

IMHO formal technical education classes are the biggest scam going. Anything you need to know is but a Google search away.
2 posted on 01/29/2004 10:10:39 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: COBOL2Java
We have free access to online classes. They are pretty worthless. Community college is a better choice.

Of course, the only languages I learned in school were COBOL and fortran and I use neither now. I taught myself php, perl, SQL, PL/SQL, SQR, SAS, Java and VB.
3 posted on 01/29/2004 10:13:20 AM PST by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: dfwgator
Agree. Usenet is a tremendous, and *free* resource.
4 posted on 01/29/2004 10:14:00 AM PST by TomServo ("Why does the most evil man in the world live in a Stuckeys?")
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To: COBOL2Java
I would be footing the bill for much of this, so I'm reluctant to shell out a lot of dough. Any opinions? Thanks in advance for your input!

Emigrate to India or China.
I understand that the cost of living is quite affordable there.

5 posted on 01/29/2004 10:21:19 AM PST by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: COBOL2Java
Check out SitePoint and its partner links.
6 posted on 01/29/2004 10:21:46 AM PST by Jen (The FReeperette formerly known as AntiJen)
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To: COBOL2Java
http://www.learnwindowsserver.com/detail.aspx?id=4&c=lwsnl_1

This gets good reviews but I don't know how "technical" it gets...
7 posted on 01/29/2004 10:23:02 AM PST by Wheee The People (If this post doesn't make any sense, then it also doubles as a bump.)
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To: COBOL2Java
Are you attempting to get a degree? Do you plan to use financial aid? Grants?

If you want to use state grants, your best bet is shop around at the different colleges and universities in your state. Loans, etc. can be used anywhere. If you just want to learn about Windows 2000, etc. you can get self study books and cds. The first thing you need to do is define what you want to achieve (degree, certification, etc.) and that will help narrow down some of the choices.
8 posted on 01/29/2004 10:24:26 AM PST by looscnnn ("Live free or die; death is not the worst of evils" Gen. John Stark 1809)
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To: Willie Green; COBOL2Java
"Emigrate to India or China.
I understand that the cost of living is quite affordable there."

And IT jobs are becoming plentiful there.
9 posted on 01/29/2004 10:26:05 AM PST by looscnnn ("Live free or die; death is not the worst of evils" Gen. John Stark 1809)
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To: COBOL2Java
I'm nearing the end of a tech curriculum through Kennesaw State University in Georgia. Been at it for about a year. The training has been TOP-NOTCH, very in-depth. I'm confident that I'll be ready for the cert exam very shortly after finishing the coursework.

KSU

MM

10 posted on 01/29/2004 10:29:19 AM PST by MississippiMan
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To: MississippiMan
BUNDLE PRICE for all the MCSE courses - $5,995.00

While the quality may be OK, this price is obscene.

11 posted on 01/29/2004 10:33:54 AM PST by Wheee The People (If this post doesn't make any sense, then it also doubles as a bump.)
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To: looscnnn
Are you attempting to get a degree? Do you plan to use financial aid? Grants?

I'm pretty much done with degrees. I've got an MBA and that was enough for me. Maybe go for a Ph.D. in Semiotics or other such totally self-serving sheepskin after I've retired. :-)

No, I'm more interested in technical continuing education at this point in my career.

12 posted on 01/29/2004 10:35:34 AM PST by COBOL2Java (If you can read this, thank a teacher. If you are reading this in English, thank a soldier.)
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To: AppyPappy
I taught myself php, perl, SQL, PL/SQL, SQR, SAS, Java and VB.

I'm also into self-education, hence my attraction to the online courses that you can take at your own pace, preferably at 5:00am on a Saturday morning when the family's asleep. As long as the webcam is not a required part of the education, I can deal with it. :-)

13 posted on 01/29/2004 10:40:12 AM PST by COBOL2Java (If you can read this, thank a teacher. If you are reading this in English, thank a soldier.)
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To: COBOL2Java
I found the online classes to be the same as reading a manual except you have to answer the questions to proceed. Too much theory and not enough code.
14 posted on 01/29/2004 10:48:43 AM PST by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: Wheee The People
I had/have no interest in the MCSE curriculum. I was simply sharing that the training I've gotten there has been top notch. (And it was definitely a good value compared to comparable programs.)

MM
15 posted on 01/29/2004 11:02:28 AM PST by MississippiMan
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To: MississippiMan
I was only using the MSCE as illustrative of the costs at the school, not to suggest that you were interested. As to being a good value, I think NOT.
16 posted on 01/29/2004 11:07:17 AM PST by Wheee The People (If this post doesn't make any sense, then it also doubles as a bump.)
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To: COBOL2Java
Both NC State and Georgia Tech have excellent distance learning programs - not to mention outstanding reputations as institutions.
17 posted on 01/29/2004 11:08:46 AM PST by Palmetto
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To: AppyPappy
Do you have any preferred publishers? I have found Wrox Press and O'Reilly to be two of the best.
18 posted on 01/29/2004 11:10:09 AM PST by COBOL2Java (If you can read this, thank a teacher. If you are reading this in English, thank a soldier.)
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To: COBOL2Java
I generally use online documentation. O'Reilly is OK but can sometimes be a bit to general. Sam's books are good,
19 posted on 01/29/2004 11:12:57 AM PST by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: COBOL2Java
Manning is real good too. You can go to their site and ask questions to the authors, and you'll always get a quick response.
20 posted on 01/29/2004 11:13:04 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: Wheee The People
I was only using the MSCE as illustrative of the costs at the school, not to suggest that you were interested. As to being a good value, I think NOT.

And my point was that while the MCSE costs may have been high, the costs for the program I'm in are right in line with other comparable programs. I'm sure the Microsoft programs are far more competitive. Mine is much more of a specialty niche.

MM

21 posted on 01/29/2004 11:24:23 AM PST by MississippiMan
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To: COBOL2Java
I'd forget Wrox. They've been split up and purchased by several other publishers. The quality (IMO) has gone down the tubes...
22 posted on 01/29/2004 3:21:46 PM PST by TomServo ("Why does the most evil man in the world live in a Stuckeys?")
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To: TomServo
I think Apress bought out Wrox.
23 posted on 01/29/2004 3:22:56 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator
Right. I think there were additional publishers in the mix, also. The last Wrox book I bought - sucked. Probably because it was written by 8 different authors. Typos, examples that don't work, no continuity, etc.
24 posted on 01/29/2004 3:26:55 PM PST by TomServo ("Why does the most evil man in the world live in a Stuckeys?")
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To: TomServo

BUMP


25 posted on 06/25/2006 9:18:14 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Undocumented FReeper)
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To: COBOL2Java

http://ocw.mit.edu/OcwWeb/Electrical-Engineering-and-Computer-Science/index.htm

Not as technically focussed as you asked for, but may be of interest to others attracted to the thread.
Free BTW.


26 posted on 06/25/2006 9:23:34 AM PDT by mrsmith
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