THE PORNO-IZATION OF AMERICAN MEDIA AND MARKETING

Advertising Age ^ | 1.26.04 | T.L. Stanley

[Modernman]

It is saddening reading your post. Your viewpoint, if shared by many others, proves that the moral foundation of civilizations is destroyed, and that pedophilia and cannibalism are on the horizon.

LOL. Bet you didn't know you were a pedophile and cannibal.

[Modernman]

A civilization with no objective reality which the majority of people admit to is a society of wild animals.

M'okay. How is this statement in any way relevant to Ron Jeremy being on a reality TV show or Jenna Jameson being on a billboard in Times Square? Time to switch to decaf....

[goldstategop]

He has a definite talent for comedy... if you look past his being a porn star, he could pull it off as a mainstream actor. Ron Jeremy's talents were never done justice by the ah, blue screen.

[little jeremiah]

Here's another good one: (I know it's kind of long for those with short attention spans, but they probably wouldn't get it anyway).

BTW, you should add the rest of the Burke statement:
"Their passions forge their fetters."


"True freedom, the freedom that liberates, is grounded in truth
and ordered to truth and, therefore, to virtue. A free person
is enslaved neither to the sheer will of another nor to his own
appetites and passions. A free person lives uprightly, fulfilling
his obligations to family, community, nation and God. By contrast,
a person given over to his appetites and passions, a person who
scoffs at truth and chooses to live, whether openly or secretly,
in defiance of the moral law is not free. He is simply a different
kind of slave. The counterfeit of freedom consists in the idea of
personal and communal liberation from morality, responsibility and
truth. It is what our nation's founders expressly distinguished
from liberty and condemned as 'license.' The so-called freedom
celebrated today by so many of our opinion-shaping elites in
education, entertainment and the media is simply the license
to do whatever one pleases. This false conception of freedom --
false because disordered, disordered because detached from moral
truth and civic responsibility -- shackles those in its grip no
less powerfully than did the chattel slavery of old. Enslavement
to one's own appetites and passions is no less brutal a form of
bondage for being a slavery of the soul. It is no less tragic,
indeed, it is in certain respects immeasurably more tragic,
for being self-imposed. It is ironic, is it not, that people
who celebrate slavery to appetite and passion call this bondage
'freedom'?" --Imprimis

[small_l_libertarian]

Oh, give me a break. What on earth does Ron Jeremy banging porno starlets have to do with pedophilia and cannibalism? Cannibalism??? Are you kidding me?

He's just a guy having sex on film. Totally harmless, so long as everyone involved is an adult. Which IS the law, you know.

You're overreacting. A lot.

[NonValueAdded]

"I can't help it ... I think Ron Jeremy is adorable. (No, not in a physical kind of way.) He's just so honest, and I find that positively refreshing. He makes no excuses, and doesn't seem to be ashamed of what he does for a living, although he definitely appreciates the fact that others look down on him."

Oh, I see your screen name is small_l_liberTARian ... for a moment I thought it was small_l_liBRARian spending too much time in the romance novel section. I'll bet those book covers would make Ron Jeremy blush.

[TheBigB]

(Just ignore lj...he's a bit of a nutbar)

There was an interview with Ron in PLAYBOY a coupld of months ago. Did you know he has a Master's Degree and a Teaching License?

[Polycarp IV]

Would never have sex with him, though, just because I think he'd be impossible to impress.

I'd worry less about impressing him and more about multiple drug resistent Sexually Transmitted Diseases and mortal sin.

This is one sick thread.

[Helms]

"Put down the Nietzsche and take a walk out in the sunshine."

Can't a guy get an even break, I died insane and folks are still blaming me for what Hegel, Heidegger,Derrida, Marcuse, Focault and a whole host of passive nihilists have wrought.

Sure they are tearing down old values and institutions but have nothing to replace them. Not quite what I had in mind. I said reevaluation.

[little jeremiah]

If you think that glorifying people who screw each other for money so that others can watch it for sexual stimulation and/or amusement is either morally beneficial or harmless, there's no point of connection between your mind and mine.

Your comment about "me" being a pedophile and cannibal was incoherent. Professionals of various stripes are already advocating pedophilia, and cannibalism is being defended in Germany as fine as long as it's consensual. People who reject moral absolutes admit (it's in the above article as well) that they always want to push the edge of what is acceptable further and further into the realm of extreme. So when will they (you?) say "enough is enough". Never, since that's one of the symptoms of the disease.

[small_l_libertarian]

Did you know he has a Master's Degree and a Teaching License?

No, I didn't know that (other than from reading this thread), but it doesn't really surprise me. He's obviously very bright, and, like I said, probably a lot of fun to hang out with.

[Hillary's Lovely Legs]

I had to attend a wedding with John Bobbit and Ron Jeremy.

I am convinced that Bobbit has the IQ of a box of hair, and Jeremy is so disgusting that I had to go home and shower just to get his vileness off of me.

[little jeremiah]

Yeah, I'm a nutbar because I am 100% convinced that moral absolutes are absolutes, and that the slippery slope not only exists but we are sliding faster and farther down it.

I guess in your worthy opinion anyone who thinks that porno available to everyone, sexualizing children at an earlier and earlier age, and same sex marriage and so on are perfectly good and beneficial and have no ill effect on individuals and therefore society are all nutjobs.

Well, I'd rather you have a poor opinion of me than God have a poor opinion of me.

[Modernman]

This is one sick thread.

So why are you posting on it?

[TheBigB]

He probably is...

I'd still rather hang with Jenna, though. ;)

No "hanging" jokes, either!

[little jeremiah]

He's just a guy having sex on film. Totally harmless, so long as everyone involved is an adult.

Too bad everyone watching that kind of crap isn't an adult.

[TheBigB]

Nope, don't think that all. Like usual, you're wrong. And you're arrogantly wrong as well.

BTW, God told me He thinks you're a nutbar, too

[little jeremiah]

Because he wants to state his opinion. Got a problem with that? Maybe you should start your own website, or go chat on some porn sites if you don't like differing viewpoints.

[Modernman]

Your comment about "me" being a pedophile and cannibal was incoherent.

What are you talking about?

So when will they (you?) say "enough is enough". Never, since that's one of the symptoms of the disease.

Nobody is making you look at, act in or buy anything that you find offensive. You've had enough? Fine, that's your right and I certainly don't want to force you to view something you don't like.

However, some people aren't really bothered by the sight of two (or three or four..) consenting adults having sex.

[Helms]

You just wait til porno goes a full 960i/1080i high definition. And some folks thought that high def. is already a bit addictive.

Great article and the cultural firewall which existed up until know has been breached and I personally don't care to see it happening. A place for everything and everything in its place. Absent from this is the discussion of the dark side of that industry.

Problem is that with porn, just where do you draw the line which producers will inevitably push.

Just so happens that in NC we have one of the largest marketers of porn in the world:PHE/Adam and Eve.