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Statement of Mr. John Kerry (Accepting FALSE Testimony Accusing U.S. Soldiers Of Atrocities)
Richmond.Edu ^ | April 22, 1971 | John F. Kerry

Posted on 01/30/2004 2:43:53 PM PST by PJ-Comix

...I am not here as John Kerry. I am here as one member of the group of 1,000 which is a small representation of a very much larger group of veterans in this country, and were it possible for all of them to sit at this table they would be here and have the same kind of testimony....

WINTER SOLDIER INVESTIGATION

I would like to talk, representing all those veterans, and say that several months ago in Detroit, we had an investigation at which over 150 honorably discharged and many very highly decorated veterans testified to war crimes committed in Southeast Asia, not isolated incidents but crimes committed on a day-to-day basis with the full awareness of officers at all levels of command....

They told the stories at times they had personally raped, cut off ears, cut off heads, taped wires from portable telephones to human genitals and turned up the power, cut off limbs, blown up bodies, randomly shot at civilians, razed villages in fashion reminiscent of Genghis Khan, shot cattle and dogs for fun, poisoned food stocks, and generally ravaged the countryside of South Vietnam in addition to the normal ravage of war, and the normal and very particular ravaging which is done by the applied bombing power of this country.

We call this investigation the "Winter Soldier Investigation." The term "Winter Soldier" is a play on words of Thomas Paine in 1776 when he spoke of the Sunshine Patriot and summertime soldiers who deserted at Valley Forge because the going was rough.

We who have come here to Washington have come here because we f eel we have to be winter soldiers now. We could come back to this country; we could be quiet; we could hold our silence; we could not tell what went on in Vietnam, but we feel because of what threatens this country, the fact that the crimes threaten it, not reds, and not redcoats but the crimes which we are committing that threaten it, that we have to speak out.


TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: 2004; johnkerry; vietnam
They told the stories at times they had personally raped, cut off ears, cut off heads, taped wires from portable telephones to human genitals and turned up the power, cut off limbs, blown up bodies, randomly shot at civilians, razed villages in fashion reminiscent of Genghis Khan, shot cattle and dogs for fun, poisoned food stocks, and generally ravaged the countryside of South Vietnam in addition to the normal ravage of war, and the normal and very particular ravaging which is done by the applied bombing power of this country.

This testimony was later determined to be bogus. Much of such testimony was made by people who were later proven to be fakes. However, John F-ing Kerry never apologized later for using such testimony to smear the conduct of U.S. soldiers in Vietnam.

1 posted on 01/30/2004 2:43:54 PM PST by PJ-Comix
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To: MEG33; LindaSOG
Ping

Were you looking for this a day or so ago?


http://www.richmond.edu/~ebolt/history398/JohnKerryTestimony.html
2 posted on 01/30/2004 2:47:58 PM PST by Radix (Radix is not avoiding the Canteen, just having a few problems with puter, again.)
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To: Radix
I think I pinged the person to it.It's always good to post the link in case anyone is still ignorant about the real John Kerry.Thanks!
3 posted on 01/30/2004 2:52:25 PM PST by MEG33 (America will never seek a permission slip to provide for the security of our country)
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To: MEG33
John F-ing Kerry NEVER lets us forget that he's a Viet Vet yet he testified before congress using FALSE testimony about supposed war atrocities committed by Viet Vets of whom he now claims to be so proud of. As far as I know John F-ing Kerry NEVER apologized for the smear.
4 posted on 01/30/2004 3:01:53 PM PST by PJ-Comix (Saddam Hussein was only 537 Florida votes away from still being in power)
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To: PJ-Comix
They told the stories at times they had personally raped, cut off ears, cut off heads, taped wires from portable telephones to human genitals and turned up the power, cut off limbs, blown up bodies, randomly shot at civilians, razed villages in fashion reminiscent of Genghis Khan, shot cattle and dogs for fun, poisoned food stocks, and generally ravaged the countryside of South Vietnam in addition to the normal ravage of war, and the normal and very particular ravaging which is done by the applied bombing power of this country.

Gee, it sounds like he's describing Uday and Qusay and their dad.

5 posted on 01/30/2004 3:02:14 PM PST by alnick (A vote for anyone but George W. Bush for president in 2004 is a vote to strengthen Al Qaeda.)
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To: PJ-Comix
Ho Chi Ming has got to love this guy.
6 posted on 01/30/2004 3:02:29 PM PST by lormand (Dead People Vote DemocRAT)
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To: PJ-Comix
This testimony was later determined to be bogus.

but who on the left ever reads the truth?

7 posted on 01/30/2004 3:08:20 PM PST by Krodg (...when you no-show for a decade, you ain't the base anymore!)
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To: PJ-Comix
I realize he has a bunch of vets campaigning for him.I realize what seems despicable behavior to me is accepted by others.I don't claim to be able to explain politics.

I think he hurt those still in harm's way.I think he betrayed and slandered.I can't forgive that.

The good people of Massachusetts are a puzzle to me.They also elect the swimmer.
8 posted on 01/30/2004 3:12:48 PM PST by MEG33 (America will never seek a permission slip to provide for the security of our country)
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To: Krodg
This marked the first major appearance by John F-ing Kerry on the national scene and it was all based on false testimony.
9 posted on 01/30/2004 3:13:46 PM PST by PJ-Comix (Saddam Hussein was only 537 Florida votes away from still being in power)
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To: PJ-Comix
I knew a guy who cut off viet cong ears in Viet Nam. He was a born killer who enjoyed killing viet cong as a challenge between them. He was a machine gunner. He was given a fire sector and everybody stayed away from him. He's dtring a little barbed wire about 100 yards from his position. After fire fights he would cut off the right ears of viet cong and pin them to his barbed wire to let them know what he had done and where he was. The viet cong kept sending their best after him. He kept posting their ears on his barbed wire at the jungle's edge. In one sector he had 355 ears posted until the army moved him to another sector.

The viet cong did worse. They would hang uncooperative villagers upside down and disembowel them after cutting their daughters breasts off and castrating their sons. The viet cong woman called apache was a professionally trained torturer. When she worked on a captured GI, you could hear his screams for miles. White Feather finally tracked her and killed her.

10 posted on 01/30/2004 3:31:48 PM PST by RLK
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To: PJ-Comix
Bookmark for John Effing Kerry the "Winter Soldier".
11 posted on 01/30/2004 3:51:12 PM PST by Mike Darancette (Proud member - Neoconservative Power Vortex)
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To: PJ-Comix
Bookmark for John Effing Kerry the "Winter Soldier".
12 posted on 01/30/2004 3:51:13 PM PST by Mike Darancette (Proud member - Neoconservative Power Vortex)
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To: RLK
Got any documentation? Otherwise you're a sleeper.
13 posted on 01/30/2004 4:05:29 PM PST by squarebarb ("Are we sober?" "Uh yes. Are we black?")
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To: PJ-Comix
Kerry willingly surrounded himself with admitted psychopaths, but we're not to infer he was one of them, right?
14 posted on 01/30/2004 4:17:47 PM PST by onedoug
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To: RLK; squarebarb
It does convey a sort of "made-up" feeling, to me too.
15 posted on 01/30/2004 4:22:01 PM PST by onedoug
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To: squarebarb
Got any documentation? Otherwise you're a sleeper.

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Sonny boy, when you get people who are accustomed to having other people attempt to kill them and are pissed off about it, and when you have people accustomed to killing other people, you'll find the Marquis of Queenbury rules are laid aside. Don't expect to find phographs taken for twits like you. Have you ever had sombody try to kill you?

16 posted on 01/30/2004 4:24:51 PM PST by RLK
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To: onedoug
It does convey a sort of "made-up" feeling, to me too.

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You haven't lived very much, either.

17 posted on 01/30/2004 4:35:24 PM PST by RLK
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To: RLK
Well, I spent a year in combat up to my ears in Vietnam...without cutting anyone else's off.
18 posted on 01/30/2004 4:59:44 PM PST by onedoug
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To: RLK
I think the Viet Cong were the most viscious and disgusting people in the world. They did things to American soldiers that if ever described would truly piss us all off.

You get what you give.

19 posted on 01/30/2004 5:29:29 PM PST by BushisTheMan
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To: BushisTheMan
I think the Viet Cong were the most viscious and disgusting people in the world.

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You hit it close. I have no sympathy for the viet cong or the Northern army. Neither do I have any use for Kerry. He is unprincipled and without integrity.

Howevery, war is war. Many unpleasant or unbelievable events occur there. I despise Kerry for exploiting those events and some of the people on our side that were involved, to his own advantage. I equally despise him for not exposing the atrocities of the viet cong. He engaged in exaggeration of the problems on our side while systematically denying the atrocities on the other side. I won't forgive him any more than I forgive Jane Fonda.

20 posted on 01/30/2004 9:04:51 PM PST by RLK
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To: PJ-Comix
PJC,

Hey... as usual, I'm writing another article. Can you point me to any sources (reliable sources) that prove that Kerry's testimony, and testimony like it, was BS?
21 posted on 01/30/2004 9:08:14 PM PST by jmstein7
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To: RLK
"I knew a guy who cut off viet cong ears in Viet Nam. He was a born killer who enjoyed killing viet cong as a challenge between them. He was a machine gunner. He was given a fire sector and everybody stayed away from him. He's dtring a little barbed wire about 100 yards from his position. After fire fights he would cut off the right ears of viet cong and pin them to his barbed wire to let them know what he had done and where he was. The viet cong kept sending their best after him. He kept posting their ears on his barbed wire at the jungle's edge. In one sector he had 355 ears posted until the army moved him to another sector."

You are such a pantload.
22 posted on 01/30/2004 9:15:18 PM PST by Hon
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To: RLK
"...any more than I forgive Jane Fonda."

'With ya' there.

23 posted on 01/30/2004 10:13:31 PM PST by onedoug
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To: Hon; RLK
Maybe RLK is talking about Howard Stern. Howard often talks his Vietnam experiences and this description sounds like Howard in 'Nam.
24 posted on 02/01/2004 8:02:54 PM PST by PJ-Comix (Saddam Hussein was only 537 Florida votes away from still being in power)
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To: RLK
You said it beautifully and I agree with you 100%. Thanks
25 posted on 02/02/2004 8:58:33 AM PST by BushisTheMan
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