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Conflicting messages from MTV
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Posted on 02/01/2004 9:19:26 PM PST by Hildy

First I read this on Drudge:

MTV Statement on Super Bowl XXXVIII Halftime Incident Sunday February 1, 11:03 pm ET

HOUSTON, Feb. 1 /PRNewswire/ -- The tearing of Janet Jackson's costume was unrehearsed, unplanned, completely unintentional and was inconsistent with assurances we had about the content of the performance. MTV regrets this incident occurred and we apologize to anyone who was offended by it.

Then I went on MTV's website and I found this: Who's Kidding whom here?

Janet Jackson Got Nasty at the MTV-Produced Super Bowl Halftime Show Jaws across the country hit the carpet at exactly the same time. You know what we're talking about...Janet Jackson, Justin Timberlake and a kinky finale that rocked the Super Bowl to its core. P. Diddy, Kid Rock, & Nelly rounded out the halftime show in the midst of the greatest game on earth. MTV was Super Bowl central, so armchair quarterbacks, fair weather fanatics and fans of Janet Jackson and her pasties were definitely in the right place. So strap on those pads, keep your head down and get the full recap of The AOL Super Bowl XXXVIII Halftime Show produced by MTV.


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It keeps getting worse and worse, doesn't it?
1 posted on 02/01/2004 9:19:26 PM PST by Hildy
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To: Hildy
YEP! No shame! I feel for America! No wonder we have become the great satan in the eyes of other nations.
2 posted on 02/01/2004 9:22:45 PM PST by RoseofTexas
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To: Hildy
Anybody who watches MTV already has a brain full of mush. No damage done here.
3 posted on 02/01/2004 9:24:20 PM PST by Reagan79 (Pro Life! Pro Family! Pro Reagan!)
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To: RoseofTexas
Have you been to Europe?

We don't hold a candle to them on this front.
4 posted on 02/01/2004 9:25:05 PM PST by DB ()
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To: Hildy
It is such a shame. Instead of talking about the great football game, the media will be talking about this disgusting display of scumbags for days to come.

I also noticed that our local Houston anchors are not very happy about it either.

5 posted on 02/01/2004 9:25:33 PM PST by BlueAngel
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To: Hildy
And don't forget Justin Timberlake claiming that it was a "wardrobe malfunction"! Geez, can't these folks even stick to one story?
6 posted on 02/01/2004 9:26:42 PM PST by NYCVirago
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To: Hildy
Just knowing she was on we all went to the kitchen and cooked burgers and ate. What happened with Janet Jackson?
7 posted on 02/01/2004 9:29:43 PM PST by JSteff
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To: JSteff
You're joking right? If not, just to the the posts here at Freerepublic or The Drudge Report and you'll find out.
8 posted on 02/01/2004 9:31:40 PM PST by Hildy
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To: Hildy
The PR department at MTV must be having a great time. Seriously. Think of all the press MTV is having over this. All over the world. It's a friggin PR bonanza.

They managed to piss off all of us decent people, and at the same time, they are luring in more depravocrats, which is their target audience.

My only concern is that Roger Ailes of Fox News Network loves to watch MTV, mainly to see how they retain and hook their viewers. I hope he doesn't think a stunt along these lines is worthy of the venerable Fox News Network.

9 posted on 02/01/2004 9:33:37 PM PST by Vision Thing
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To: Vision Thing
My only concern is that Roger Ailes of Fox News Network loves to watch MTV, mainly to see how they retain and hook their viewers. I hope he doesn't think a stunt along these lines is worthy of the venerable Fox News Network.

Ugh.. Is Juan Williams going to rip open Mara Liason's blouse one night during the panel segment on Special Report?

-PJ

10 posted on 02/01/2004 9:35:54 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (It's not safe yet to vote Democrat.)
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To: JSteff
Click the video in this link:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1069718/posts?page=473#473
11 posted on 02/01/2004 9:37:30 PM PST by Howlin (If we don't post, will they exist?)
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To: Pubbie; Hildy
More spinning.......or is it bragging?
12 posted on 02/01/2004 9:37:56 PM PST by Howlin (If we don't post, will they exist?)
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To: Hildy
The photo of a bare breasted Janet is now one of 12 stills from the Super Bowl show, featured on the MTV.com website. If it were an accident, would that photo be there? Heck no! All staged, all planned, and despite the fines and sanctions and hate email, MTV & Janet Jackson will get exactly what they want -- a ton of press and publicity.

Remember, there's no such thing as bad press.

13 posted on 02/01/2004 9:39:08 PM PST by cincinnati65 (Rooting for the Panthers since 1995.......)
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To: Political Junkie Too
*faint*
14 posted on 02/01/2004 9:39:12 PM PST by Howlin (If we don't post, will they exist?)
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To: Political Junkie Too
Ugh.. Is Juan Williams going to rip open Mara Liason's blouse one night during the panel segment on Special Report?

I think this would further aggravate that already aggravating cough of hers.

15 posted on 02/01/2004 9:40:26 PM PST by Vision Thing
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To: cincinnati65
Sorry guys, they've dropped the pic now, but it was up not 15 minutes ago.
16 posted on 02/01/2004 9:40:44 PM PST by cincinnati65 (Rooting for the Panthers since 1995.......)
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To: cincinnati65
I don't know..I don't think her brother's publicity is going to do much for his career.
17 posted on 02/01/2004 9:40:53 PM PST by Hildy
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To: Hildy
Sure it will....just wait. Charges will disappear, or he'll find some way to make it to a non-extradition country, lay low for a few years, and come out with a pay-per-view.

And they'll be some idiots who will plunk down their money to see it.

19 posted on 02/01/2004 9:43:48 PM PST by cincinnati65 (Rooting for the Panthers since 1995.......)
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To: Hildy
There are no conflicting messages on MTV. Anything on that channel in garbage and any parent who lets their kids watch it is asking for troubled kids.
20 posted on 02/01/2004 9:44:26 PM PST by aodell
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To: Mr. Low Key
Actually, the more I think about it, the angrier I get. The more I learn how they probably lied to everyone I get mad. When I think that young boys watched a man tear part of a women's shirt off to the deafening sound of people cheering, I GET REALLY MAD and when I think that Janet Jackson would go along with that image, I get really sad. And that's all I'm going to say about that.
21 posted on 02/01/2004 9:45:14 PM PST by Hildy
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To: Hildy
Speaking of MTV, whatever happened to this case (see link)


http://www.cnn.com/2003/SHOWBIZ/TV/11/25/realworld.assault.ap/
22 posted on 02/01/2004 9:46:20 PM PST by BookmanTheJanitor
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To: Hildy
Fine CBS and MTV ! Whats the National debt? Add 2 million to it and get the surplus rolling. Wonder if there is a class action suit that can get going here my young children and I were watching, had to be quick on the remote but was not quick enough, something along the line of corrupting the morals of a minor.
24 posted on 02/01/2004 9:47:19 PM PST by KingNo155
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To: Hildy
It occurs to me that perhaps this was MTV's way of counter-programming the highly-advertised PPV "Lingerie Bowl?" Who knew that the free broadcast show would show more than the PPV?

-PJ

25 posted on 02/01/2004 9:48:18 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (It's not safe yet to vote Democrat.)
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To: Vision Thing
IMHO, CBS and the NFL are just as culpable. They'll get their millions whether it was Janet Jackson or Rosie O'Donnel.
26 posted on 02/01/2004 9:48:48 PM PST by djf
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To: Hildy
Wow, is Kerry writing their press over there?
27 posted on 02/01/2004 9:51:49 PM PST by armymarinemom (My Son Liberated the Honor Roll Students in Iraq)
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To: Political Junkie Too
Ugh.. Is Juan Williams going to rip open Mara Liason's blouse one night during the panel segment on Special Report?

Or worse yet -- imagine if CNN imitates it and gets Aaron Brown to rip off Candy Crowley's top? Yeesh!

28 posted on 02/01/2004 9:55:56 PM PST by NYCVirago
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To: NYCVirago
It's almost like CNN's Paula Zahn "ZZZZiiiiippp!" ad.

-PJ

29 posted on 02/01/2004 10:00:13 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (It's not safe yet to vote Democrat.)
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To: Hildy
Yeah ... I gotta conflicting message ... should I grab my crotch ... or her breast
30 posted on 02/01/2004 10:02:05 PM PST by clamper1797 (Conservative by nature ... Republican in Spirit ... Patriot by Heart ... and Anti Liberal BY GOD)
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To: DB
We don't hold a candle to them on this front

You say this like it's a bad think ...

31 posted on 02/01/2004 10:03:22 PM PST by clamper1797 (Conservative by nature ... Republican in Spirit ... Patriot by Heart ... and Anti Liberal BY GOD)
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To: clamper1797
Think = thing
32 posted on 02/01/2004 10:04:09 PM PST by clamper1797 (Conservative by nature ... Republican in Spirit ... Patriot by Heart ... and Anti Liberal BY GOD)
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To: clamper1797
No, my point is that if what Jackson did makes us the Great Satan, then Europe would be hated far more because we are prudes compared to them.
34 posted on 02/01/2004 10:17:27 PM PST by DB ()
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To: Hildy
CBS as a broadcaster is activly courting controversy under the impression it yields ratings.

If we want to have an impact, write to the people who paid a million plus for thirty seconds of ad time. Tell the sponsors they had better get their expenive new ads off CBS.

Even when CBS had "thereagans" they were courting the expected controversy. They did not expect the firestorm over the prepublicity. Obviously CBS learned their lesson, they kept this under wraps and are now enjoying their pre-planned controversy.
35 posted on 02/01/2004 10:25:27 PM PST by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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To: Hildy
MTV has become the "toilet" of society anyway. This, coupled with a Jackson ( a bunch of sexual deviates) , should suprise no one.
36 posted on 02/01/2004 10:30:54 PM PST by WasDougsLamb (just my opinion.....)
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To: WasDougsLamb
what does the "m" stand for any more. It most certainly is not music videos.
37 posted on 02/01/2004 10:35:15 PM PST by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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To: Hildy
Listen people...If you didn't want to see a naked breast, you shouldn't be watching shows like that.

Oh wait, never mind, you all were talking about the Super Bowl!
38 posted on 02/01/2004 11:03:53 PM PST by OneTimeLurker
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To: Hildy
I had a VCR with the SB going while watching another TV flipping back and forth from the game to another program. During halftime, I didn't watch the show -- the Aerosmith/Britney Spears/Nelly debacle a couple of Bowls back cured me of them. But after I heard about Janet's indecent exposure, I checked the tape of the game.

My verdict: there ain't NO way this wasn't prepared or intentional. The only reason for her to have a breakaway cup on that outfit and a pastie/tassle on her breast is if she was guarding her nipple from being exposed. The only reason for Justin Timberlake to reach across her body for her right breast would be to rip the cup away. Anyone who says otherwise is a lying sack.

I see the supposed theme of the show was "Choose to get involved." Well, MTV, you asked for it.

BTW -- up until I learned about this disgusting incident, I thought the low point of the broadcast were the turn for the tawdry of the Bud Light commercials, two of which featured a farting horse and a talking chimpanzee that propositions his owner's girlfriend.

39 posted on 02/01/2004 11:35:14 PM PST by L.N. Smithee (Just because I don't think like you doesn't mean I don't think for myself)
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To: Political Junkie Too
It's almost like CNN's Paula Zahn "ZZZZiiiiippp!" ad.

That was NOT a zipper, it was a phonograph needle. I don't care what Rush says.

40 posted on 02/01/2004 11:38:05 PM PST by L.N. Smithee (Just because I don't think like you doesn't mean I don't think for myself)
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To: Mr. Low Key
No we are not overreacting.

I am insulted that this was aired without a warning so that we could change channels, leave the room or get the kids away from the TV.

The gall of these pornographic addicts running CBS and MTV. They have grovelled in the gutter so long they have no sense of what is appropriate.

Yet, I think this was planned as an assault on the public, as a means of "testing the water" to see if they can bring their love of filth to the mainstream viewers.

I am mad and offended. I have written CBS, the FCC and tried the NFL.
41 posted on 02/01/2004 11:42:54 PM PST by ClancyJ (It's just not safe to vote Democratic.)
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To: Mr. Low Key
You dang right I will express it.

How many times have we had something taken away from us because "someone" was offended. Bibles not allowed, Christmas trees taken out of schools, the assault on God in public places. All because "some" are offended.

Well, now, it is my turn. I am offended and I want that junk off the air. Now just see how fast anyone cares about what offends me.
43 posted on 02/01/2004 11:48:21 PM PST by ClancyJ (It's just not safe to vote Democratic.)
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To: Mr. Low Key
Too late - already done.

They need to hear a little anger in my opinion.

They sought the anger, now they get to hear it.
45 posted on 02/01/2004 11:52:31 PM PST by ClancyJ (It's just not safe to vote Democratic.)
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NFL says they won't allow MTV to produce Super Bowl halftime shows in the future.

Unless the ratings drop. If the gambling and violence don't keep the fans tuned in, they'll have MTV producing halftime during regular season games.
46 posted on 02/02/2004 2:49:33 AM PST by jaykay (Proud to be an infidel.)
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To: longtermmemmory
If we want to have an impact, write to the people who paid a million plus for thirty seconds of ad time. Tell the sponsors they had better get their expenive new ads off CBS.

I'm interested in seeing if AOL sues Viacom. If I'd paid $hundreds of millions to be the title sponsor of that halftime show and there wasn't something in the contract indicating that it would contain indecent contract, I'd sue to get my money back. I think AOL could make a credible case that Viacom's conduct was harmful to its reputation, especially since--being the title sponsor--AOL is so closely tied to the event.

47 posted on 02/02/2004 7:59:46 PM PST by supercat (Why is it that the more "gun safety" laws are passed, the less safe my guns seem?)
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To: jaykay
Unless the ratings drop. If the gambling and violence don't keep the fans tuned in, they'll have MTV producing halftime during regular season games.

Can anyone explain to me why putting content on the halftime show which, aside from the infamous nipple, is basically the same as what MTV shows 24/7, is somehow supposed to attract ratings? I would think those who want to see MTV would for the most part (aside from those with neither cable or satellite) be perfectly capable of selecting that channel.

I would think a marching band, cast-of-hundreds Rockettes-style stage spectacular, or some cross between the two could attract far more interested viewership than a rehash of the pop music dreck that is already so thoroughly available to anyone who wants it.

48 posted on 02/02/2004 8:03:57 PM PST by supercat (Why is it that the more "gun safety" laws are passed, the less safe my guns seem?)
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