Are we NOW witnessing the end of the Gulf Stream as we know it ?

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[Mike Darancette]

What I notice is an area of much warmer than normal water in Baffin Bay (between Green and Baffin Island and a La Nina building.

The warmer water off Greenland is troubling, will that cause a greater number of icebergs to be calved?

[John H K]

What I notice is an area of much warmer than normal water in Baffin Bay

My point earlier is that it is HIGLY likely that that "anomaly" doesn't even exist at all.

FNMOC Otis is an algorithm using satellite data, and it can be "screwy." One area where it's often "screwy" is in high-latitude areas near ice packs.

[edger]

Bring that button here and I'll sew a vest on it.

[Mike Darancette]

One area where it's often "screwy" is in high-latitude areas near ice packs.

Hope so, but that is a rather large area.

[John H K]

I've seen a lot bigger, such as a supposed dark-brown warm anomlaly covering all of Hudson Bay for weeks.

Actually, the one interesting thing about the current anomaly map is the cooling of the eastern ENSO (El Nino) area.

ENSO has been vaguely neutral for a long time, it's POSSIBLE a weak La Nina might be developing.

[pawdoggie]

I heard Art Bell discussing this in Apocalyptic terms this weekend, so you know it has to be a load. I think the "global warming" people are getting a little nervous, 'cause Europe's been experiencing some very cold winters of late. Maybe the greenie weenie commies will go back to the "nuclear winter" theory of the '70s, by which pollutants in the upper atmosphere were going to block the sun's rays, resulting in an icy "nuclear winter". Or maybe the Left will combine their favorite parts of both theories into the "Unified Theory of We Must Have a One-World Government Right Now or We're All Gonna Die"!

[Darnright]

Chuckle. Now, that's the Gulfstream that came to my mind.

[wordsofearnest]

I was afraid it was the racetrack.

[Indie]

And please note the surface temperatures in the Atlantic this week have been way below average. Also the radar is showing heavy storms and tornados in the midwest. The radar is also showing a couple hundred ICBM's inbound so don't sweat the storms folks! [hippy dippy weatherman] Boy that's good coffee.

[pabianice]

http://www.navlog.org/warming.html

[John H K]

One problem with all the really neat near-real time geophysical and meteorological data open to the public on the web is that they hear nonsense from Art Bell and his minions about various things relating to the earth, and then run off to websites they don't really understand and haven't really looked at over the long term and start looking for oddities.

[Truth666]

I hope your not including me in that group ...

[laredo44]

It's just past 4:30pm here in the east and I'm wondering if we're witnessing the end of the daylight as we know it.

[RightWhale]

the strange, but also verifiable, issue where the poles switch polarity

It's an issue for those with magnetic compasses who drive east in the morning to go to work and west in the evening to go home.

[Truth666]

Here is what I mean - the data : 1/2

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Min. Temperature in January

1997	1998	1999	2000	Year
-2.8	1.5	-2.1	-3.9	[°C]
96	93	100	90	Data availability[%]
2001	2002	2003	2004	Year
-2.9	0.7	-5.2	-6.7	[°C]
100	100	96	96	Data availability[%]

Averaged Value in January  ( 1997 - 2004)  : -2.7 °C

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[Truth666]

the data : 2/2 (about the same latitude as NYC, mid Atlantic)

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Min. Temperature in January

1997	1998	1999	2000	Year
12.7	11.8	13.1	13.7	[°C]
96	100	100	100	Data availability[%]
2001	2002	2003	2004	Year
13.6	11.6	14.3	15.7	[°C]
96	77	77	100	Data availability[%]

Averaged Value in January  ( 1997 - 2004)  : 13.3 °C

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[Robert A Cook PE]

More accurately:

The North magnetic pole is now rapidly (dozens/hundreds of miles per year) moving from its old position near the Hudson Bay shore north and over towards Russia.

More importantly, it is decreasing in intensity "rapidly" ...

Previous magnetic pole switches have been shown to happen over a period of very few years (tens of years, not thousands), based on earlier magnetic changes in successive sheets of lava.

So, interesting things are going on all over, right?

[Truth666]

now THAT was an important reminder

[Truth666]

Now keep in mind that these 15.6° C measured at 39° 30' N beat any measured monthly minimum average of any station closer to the poles than 33° paralell ever ... except for another Azores station located at 37°N, which during the same period, i.e. last month, measured 16.1° C.

[fso301]

Are we NOW witnessing the end of the Gulf Stream as we know it ?

What a shame. That was my favorite track in South Florida.