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Mass. High Court Rules for Gay Marriage
Associated Press Writer ^ | Wed, Feb 04, 2004 | JENNIFER PETER

Posted on 02/04/2004 8:24:28 AM PST by presidio9

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To: maeng
Quote "Moving forward into what? More AIDS and sexually transmitted diseases"

I believe the current statistics show that the greatest number of new cases of these diseases are among straight people.

Sorry...nice try though
101 posted on 02/04/2004 9:01:58 AM PST by I_love_weather
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To: tomahawk
He made a ppoint of putting it out there at SOTU. Now the chips are going to start falling. And I do think that whatever can be done vis a vis the legislative process, he is working on it. I don't know what else the "base" expects. Do they want him out there screaming like Howard Dean? I think not. He has stated his position and from what I know about GWB, he is reliable. The base however is constantly acting unreliable. Or those who see themselves as the "base".
102 posted on 02/04/2004 9:04:01 AM PST by cajungirl (John Kerry has no botox and I have a bridge to sell you!)
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To: cajungirl
Simple majority vote. Article III gives Congress the authority to setup all federal courts except for the Supreme Court which is the only constitutionally mandated court. Now whether or not the CongressCritters will do this and/or will the Rats filibuster in the Senate is another question.
103 posted on 02/04/2004 9:04:01 AM PST by COEXERJ145
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To: Aquinasfan
Quote "Why don't we eliminate all laws then?"

Laws are meant to protect people. Of course we need laws.

If two consenting adults want to do something in their bedroom...and they are not hurting anyone...I don't think we need a law saying that should or should not do - whatever it is they are doing.

Laws are mean for those who commit crimes. Not meant for people have sex...

104 posted on 02/04/2004 9:05:03 AM PST by I_love_weather
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To: Aquinasfan
Quote "Why don't we eliminate all laws then?"

Laws are meant to protect people. Of course we need laws.

If two consenting adults want to do something in their bedroom...and they are not hurting anyone...I don't think we need a law saying that should or should not do - whatever it is they are doing.

Laws are mean for those who commit crimes. Not meant for people have sex...

105 posted on 02/04/2004 9:05:05 AM PST by I_love_weather
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To: Zack Nguyen
The instant Massachusetts has same-sex marriage, a suit will be brought in federal court. Then the USSC will be able to rule. The only thing stopping it would be a constitutional amendment.

Its important to re-elect President Bush for this reason.

Can you IMAGINE the kind of judges Kerry would appoint to the USSC?

Now I'm gonna have nightmares.

106 posted on 02/04/2004 9:05:35 AM PST by Kieri (Who's waiting for the return of her beloved Farscape!)
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To: presidio9
In other news, Barney Frank proclaimed there will be a party at the Blue Oyster tonight, complete with games of buttdarts.
107 posted on 02/04/2004 9:06:07 AM PST by Dan from Michigan ("I don’t want to get caught up in any of that Funky s**t goin’ down in the city" - Steve Miller)
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To: marshmallow
They will react to it by continuing to overwhelmingly vote in liberal politicians who espouse this nonsense and these politicians will continue to appoint judges who subscribe to secular humanist liberalism.

In other words, the people of Massachusetts will be outraged not at all. This is simply a reflection of the corrupt, secular humanist values of the people.

Nothing personal, but screw you. Not all of us here in the Commonwealth are faggoty metrosexual sheep. Quit painting with such a lame-assed broad brush.

108 posted on 02/04/2004 9:06:26 AM PST by Hemingway's Ghost
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To: I_love_weather
No, it is not a victory for human rights, it is simply another judicial power grab to impose the will of a few unelected judges on the people via a legal loophole.

Read closely, they had the opportunity to chose a potentially equal designation of 'civil unions', that with some legislative moves would have provided basically the same economic benefits, while still recognizing that a union of a man-man or woman-woman is clearly different than man-woman, with different policy impacts. But no, even that wasn't good enough, they had to insist that it be given the same term, 'marriage'.

Fine, the gay rights lobby got greedy and overreached. They could have gotten 99% of what they wanted under a different name, but they wanted to smear it in everyone's face, acting like a spoiled little child who runs around the dinner table putting his fingers in everyone's plate. Well now they will find out the bitter negatives of overreaching out of greed and spite, and get far less than what they could have. 2/3rds of Americans oppose gay marriage, and the number opposed to forced gay marriage laws will only grow when the issue of having one state define their state's laws becomes a co-equal issue. The judicial activists have also miscalculated on what they can get away with.

In the culture war, the gay lobby and judicial activists have just decided to lead the French army into Russia, and winter is approaching...
109 posted on 02/04/2004 9:06:38 AM PST by Diddle E. Squat (If Bush loses, it will be a Giuliani/Powell ticket in 2008)
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To: Jim Noble
Facially unconstitutional.

I'm not so sure. The Supreme Court has granted the feds the power to regulate just about every other type of contract on interstate commerce grounds, why not the marriage contract? Also, the feds have a legitimate reason for setting a uniform definition of marriage, since the Internal Revenue Code, the welfare laws and other federal statutes are filled with provisions that grant or take away rights based on marital status.

110 posted on 02/04/2004 9:06:49 AM PST by kennedy
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To: tomahawk; cajungirl; Aquinasfan
Anybody who says that they will not vote for President Bush's reelection needs to think long and hard about what our country will look like if THIS happens. Under the Senators from Mass and NY, not only will gay marriage be legalized, but gay couples will be given privelidged status.
112 posted on 02/04/2004 9:07:27 AM PST by presidio9 (Protectionists Treat The Symptoms And Ignore The Disease)
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To: I_love_weather
Foolish statement re stats on new aids cases. The number of aids cases in straights versus gays is meaningless given that there are 95 straight people per gay so if 1% of straights gets aids the number is huge even compared to 50% of gays. You are using stats to perpetuate a lie,,that straight people are equally at risk of aids. That is a clear political try to make Aids "our disease" rather than what it is,,a plague among gays and IV drug abusers with a few straight people caught in the crossfire from other reasons. Your reasoning won't work here.
113 posted on 02/04/2004 9:07:55 AM PST by cajungirl (John Kerry has no botox and I have a bridge to sell you!)
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To: EdReform
ping
114 posted on 02/04/2004 9:07:57 AM PST by presidio9 (Protectionists Treat The Symptoms And Ignore The Disease)
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To: ladtx
Why is the Massachusetts General Assembly even considering this? I haven't read the Mass. Constitution, but I have an awfully hard time believing that it gives the Judicial Court the power to order legislation to be passed. The GA should just say, "Thanks for your opinion," and go its merry way.

If the Constitution "does" give the court this power, the Feds need to step in and force a change to guarantee to the citizens of the Commonwealth a republican form of government.
115 posted on 02/04/2004 9:09:17 AM PST by Doug Loss
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To: Diddle E. Squat
post 109,,you are so right.
116 posted on 02/04/2004 9:09:53 AM PST by cajungirl (John Kerry has no botox and I have a bridge to sell you!)
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To: presidio9
We absolutely have to reelect Pres. Bush (and with hopefully a more GOP Senate) to get real judges on the federal bench.

It would mobilize the base for him more if he makes more statements about this issue.
117 posted on 02/04/2004 9:10:03 AM PST by tomahawk
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To: Diddle E. Squat
They could have gotten 99% of what they wanted under a different name

But they don't want, or even care about the 99%.

118 posted on 02/04/2004 9:10:36 AM PST by Jim Noble (Now you go feed those hogs before they worry themselves into anemia!)
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To: cajungirl
Quote "Foolish statement re stats on new aids cases. The number of aids cases in straights versus gays is meaningless given that there are 95 straight people per gay so if 1% of straights gets aids the number is huge even compared to 50% of gays. You are using stats to perpetuate a lie,,that straight people are equally at risk of aids. That is a clear political try to make Aids "our disease" rather than what it is,,a plague among gays and IV drug abusers with a few straight people caught in the crossfire from other reasons. Your reasoning won't work here."

If you think there are only 5% of the population that would be considered gay...then you are just not living in reality :)

I will let you believe that though...if it helps brighten your day :)

Heh...

The comment does stand...more straight people are getting and spreading these diseases than gay people.

You can believe what you like...
119 posted on 02/04/2004 9:11:02 AM PST by I_love_weather
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To: tomahawk
LOok, if the "base" needs mobilizing now after watching the last few weeks of dems spouting nonsense, if the base still needs more from GWB, then you all are congenital doubting Thomasis. For crying out loud, when are you self styled self important base people going to start acting like adults and not kids running around threatening to take your ball home when you don't call each and every shot.
120 posted on 02/04/2004 9:13:31 AM PST by cajungirl (John Kerry has no botox and I have a bridge to sell you!)
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