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Kerry Angry at Bush for Making Vietnam an Issue
NewsMax.com ^ | Feb. 4, 2004 | Carl Limbacher

Posted on 02/04/2004 8:51:04 AM PST by Carl/NewsMax

Sen. John Kerry and his media boosters are hoping bogus allegations that President Bush went AWOL from the National Guard will catapult him into the White House - but during the 1992 presidential campaign, Kerry angrily denounced Bush's father for raising Bill Clinton's Vietnam draft record.

In fact, back then, Kerry called those who wanted to make Vietnam service an issue "cowardly."

"I'm here personally to express my anger, as a veteran," Kerry told National Public Radio two months before the 1992 election, "that a president who would stand before this nation in his inaugural address and promise to put Vietnam behind us is now breaking yet another promise and trying to use Vietnam and service in order to get himself re-elected."

"That is not an act of leadership, that is an act of shame and cowardice," the Massachusetts Democrat railed.

In words that could now apply to his own presidential campaign, Kerry complained to reporters a month later that White House charges suggesting Clinton had gone AWOL from the draft were an ugly smear.

"It is a sad day when the President of the United States is willing to sully another man's reputation and challenge his patriotism merely to get elected," the current Democratic front-runner groused.

Tuesday night, Kerry pulled a 180 degree about face on the issue of using a candidate's Vietnam-era military record, telling Fox News Channel's "Hannity & Colmes," "There is an issue about what [Bush's] service was - and I don't know the answers."

Saying he would defend Bush's decision to enlist in the Guard, Kerry rattled off a long list of Vietnam-era options that lumped Guard service in with draft dodging.

"I've never made any judgments about any choice somebody made about avoiding the draft, about going to Canada, going to jail, being a conscientious objector [or] going into the National Guard," he told Sean Hannity. "Those are choices people make."


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1 posted on 02/04/2004 8:51:08 AM PST by Carl/NewsMax
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To: Carl/NewsMax
Oh there are soooo many goodies to get Kerry on. This is getting real good. I hope someone is keeping a list to send to the Bush team.
2 posted on 02/04/2004 8:52:12 AM PST by areafiftyone (Democrats = the hamster is dead but the wheel is still spinning)
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To: areafiftyone
Kerry served in Vietnam?
3 posted on 02/04/2004 8:53:21 AM PST by killjoy
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To: Carl/NewsMax
I'd make Nam an issue again on Jane Fonda Kerry.

If I had $900 to spend on a book, I'd go over to Barned and Noble's website and buy up "The New Soldier".

4 posted on 02/04/2004 8:54:01 AM PST by Dan from Michigan ("I donít want to get caught up in any of that Funky s**t goiní down in the city" - Steve Miller)
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To: killjoy
John Kerry a hypocrite? I'm shocked, just shocked.
5 posted on 02/04/2004 8:54:20 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: Dan from Michigan
Barnes and Noble
6 posted on 02/04/2004 8:54:27 AM PST by Dan from Michigan ("I donít want to get caught up in any of that Funky s**t goiní down in the city" - Steve Miller)
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To: Carl/NewsMax
Well, anyone who would call Vietnam "Nixon's war" has a few screws loose. Interesting to see that Kerry was making pompous, bombastic attacks back then, too, makes it seem like old times.
7 posted on 02/04/2004 8:58:31 AM PST by KellyAdmirer
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To: Carl/NewsMax
but during the 1992 presidential campaign, Kerry angrily denounced Bush's father for raising Bill Clinton's Vietnam draft record. In fact, back then, Kerry called those who wanted to make Vietnam service an issue "cowardly."

Oh, c'mon. Obviously, Kerry has grown since 1992.</sarcasm> (Hey, it worked for Gore.) Such "ancient history" means little to Kerry's party and those who'll go so far as to consider voting for him.

8 posted on 02/04/2004 8:58:34 AM PST by newgeezer (Just my opinion, of course. Your mileage may vary. You have the right to be wrong.)
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To: areafiftyone
Wow, how can one discern what the double talker is really trying to say.

So his campaign is about seeking revenge for the "DRAFT" dodger, or is this required of him to get the "blessings" of the Clintons.

Something really twisted is going on here, they are really muddying the water, babel, = confusion.
9 posted on 02/04/2004 8:58:34 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: Dan from Michigan
Save your money and just "enjoy" the pic:

I'm sure it sums up the book quite nicely.

10 posted on 02/04/2004 8:58:36 AM PST by Coop (God bless our troops!)
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To: Carl/NewsMax
I've never seen a more two-faced bum in all my days.

His insecurity must be immense because he has to rely so often on his military record.

To me his Vietnam record is not impressive.

My cousin was in the jungle, face to face with the enemy.

A soldier's duty in that war was just to survive.

What Kerry did shortly after he returned from the war is of much more interest to me.

He fought in Kennedy and Johnson's war, not Mr. Nixon's.

His houghty arrogance and bragging will turn him off to the American people.

The people don't know this bum yet.

They don't even like Kerry in Massachussetts!!

11 posted on 02/04/2004 8:58:52 AM PST by CROSSHIGHWAYMAN (I don't believe anything a Democrat says. Bill Clinton set the standard!)
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To: killjoy
Let me think now......(brain working overtime on this tough question) ummmmm yea I think I heard it somewhere! ;-)
12 posted on 02/04/2004 9:02:28 AM PST by areafiftyone (Democrats = the hamster is dead but the wheel is still spinning)
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To: newgeezer
Well, yes, Kerry has "grown" since 1992, but mostly, it's been his nose.

13 posted on 02/04/2004 9:03:03 AM PST by MizSterious (First, the journalists, THEN the lawyers.)
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To: Miss Marple; Howlin; PhiKapMom
Another 'come to kerry' moment..........

With thousand of pages in the Congressiona Record plus archives full of stuff in the media Kerry moments will occur with rapid frequency or at the past someone wants to release them......
14 posted on 02/04/2004 9:04:13 AM PST by deport (SUPER PURGE XXXVIII ...)
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To: Dan from Michigan
I served in Vietnam and am proud of the job that my squadron mates and I did. Kerry should also be proud of what he did, but he wasn't until he was behind in the race for the Dem nomination and then he started flooding us with his accomplishments. His behavior after he came home was despicable, bordering on treason. We had a saying in the Navy, 1 Dumb S--- wipes out 10 attaboys. I consider all of Kerry's attaboys wiped out by his association with Fonda and Clark while he was dumping on our kids in Vietnam.
15 posted on 02/04/2004 9:05:18 AM PST by mortal19440
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To: killjoy
Any chance Kerry would MOVE to Vietnam???

RetiredArmy. Charter member, Vietnam Veterans Against John Kerry for President (or for anything)!

16 posted on 02/04/2004 9:07:59 AM PST by RetiredArmy (We'll put a boot in your ass, it's the American Way! Toby Keith)
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To: Carl/NewsMax
Rule 1 of Liberalism: Facts, logic, and consistency are irrelevant.
17 posted on 02/04/2004 9:09:53 AM PST by Samwise (There are other forces at work in this world, Frodo, besides the will of evil.)
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To: Coop
What is up with the two guys on the right side of the picture? What is the one guy holding?
18 posted on 02/04/2004 9:15:50 AM PST by looscnnn (Tell me something, it's still "We the people", right? -- Megadeth (Peace Sells))
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To: mortal19440
Kerry for years was ashamed of his military service in VN...now he flaunts it....I prefer to call him a *Born Again VN Vet*.
19 posted on 02/04/2004 9:17:03 AM PST by mystery-ak (*terrorism has been exaggerated*....Kerry....We must defeat him, our lives depend on it.)
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To: RetiredArmy
"Any chance Kerry would MOVE to Vietnam???"

No, he wants to make the US just like Vietnam.
20 posted on 02/04/2004 9:17:14 AM PST by looscnnn (Tell me something, it's still "We the people", right? -- Megadeth (Peace Sells))
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To: killjoy
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Kerry served in Vietnam?
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I picked up on that, too. I'll be darned.
21 posted on 02/04/2004 9:17:29 AM PST by SerpentDove (Today is the first day of the rest of your life. Don't louse it up.)
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To: mortal19440
You earned my respect for your service.

My dad was over there from 69-71 in a recon unit(Army). He won't talk much about it. All he's said about Kerry is that he's definitely not going to vote for him.

22 posted on 02/04/2004 9:17:44 AM PST by Dan from Michigan ("I donít want to get caught up in any of that Funky s**t goiní down in the city" - Steve Miller)
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To: Carl/NewsMax
We know John Kerry is not only a liar and a phony, he's a first class opportunist too. This issue was resolved in the 2000 campaign. PresBush was honorably discharged. End of story. This is another desperate effort by Kerry, Clark and the Demlibrat establishment to discredit Bush. And as usual, the liberal media is tagging along as the lefts willful accomplice.
23 posted on 02/04/2004 9:22:03 AM PST by Reagan Man (The choice is clear. Reelect BUSH-CHENEY in 2004)
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To: Carl/NewsMax
Are there any vidios of him saying these things that could be used in sound-bite ads?
24 posted on 02/04/2004 9:25:16 AM PST by fella
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To: Carl/NewsMax
RNC are you listening?

Side by sides...what Kerry said then, what Kerry says now.

Glen Beck today had a hilarious show on this subject (flip flopping) just this morning.
25 posted on 02/04/2004 9:31:12 AM PST by BushisTheMan
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To: areafiftyone
Some good ies on kerry and his opposition to balanced budget ammendments from 1995:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1071326/posts
Flashback! John Kerry was adamantly AGAINST the Balanced Budget Amendment (in his own words)
Congressional Record - Public Domain Documents | various | Kerry


26 posted on 02/04/2004 9:38:13 AM PST by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestus globus, inflammare animos)
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To: BushisTheMan
Glen Beck today had a hilarious show on this subject (flip flopping) just this morning.

But he also had a very good interview with a Viet Nam vet who read letters from vets against Kerry.

The letters talked about the fact of when Kerry and Jane were doing their thing, boys held in prison camps,were being beaten, because of the words of John F. Kerry. And they SUFFERED because of his words.

His testemony before Congress accusing our fighting men of maiming babies , children and women.(Among many other things)

I hope Glenn would put those up on his site. It made me SICK !

27 posted on 02/04/2004 9:45:58 AM PST by Neenah ("It's Always Something!")
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To: looscnnn
It appears to be a crutch, metal type from the angle I have from here.
28 posted on 02/04/2004 9:46:21 AM PST by cav68
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To: Carl/NewsMax
So, is Jane Fonda going to campaign for Kerry?
29 posted on 02/04/2004 9:52:30 AM PST by claudiustg (Go Sharon! Go Bush!)
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To: mystery-ak
In the Kingdom reserved for Vietnam Vets there is no place for John Kerry, not today, not last week, or tomorrow nor any time in the future. Lets all remember he opted out of Vietnam after just 6 months, he sought to end free fire zones along his rivers and went to Saigon to meet with the top brass to make his point. I now wonder if per say the Opt out was a Nice Shinny Boot applied with the Proper Force to the applicable area.
30 posted on 02/04/2004 9:52:51 AM PST by cav68
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To: BushisTheMan
Side by sides...what Kerry said then, what Kerry says now.

Heh. Also side by sides of video clips (no audio necessary) of Kerry talking -- pre-botox, and post-botox.

Everyone will notice that in the latter, his eyebrows no longer move.

Note that exit polls find many voters saying they preferred a different candidate, but voted for Kerry because they think he's 'most likely to beat Bush.'

So no one's in love with Kerry. And those with high hopes for him are being set up for a huge disappointment when they learn more about their...blind date.

31 posted on 02/04/2004 9:53:48 AM PST by shhrubbery!
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To: Coop
The guys in the picture look like communist revolutionaries from Central or South America. Also notice flag is upside down, which is a sign of rebellion against America. If I am the RNC or the Bush campaign I will make the cover of this book and ad to show the American people who is John Kerry.
32 posted on 02/04/2004 9:54:41 AM PST by jveritas
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To: Carl/NewsMax
Folks, this is just the beginning. We have not seen anything yet. The 04 campaign is going to be very ugly and mean spirited on both sides. I have never seen the country so polarized and I have been following politics for 50 plus years. I do not know where this is all going to end but I fear for my country. I will probably be gone before this all shakes out, but I fear for my children and grand children.
33 posted on 02/04/2004 9:58:01 AM PST by Uncle Hal
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To: cav68
I predict in the near future we will see Kerry wearing his old uniform with medals attached...I can't understand why he is getting all this support from Vets.
34 posted on 02/04/2004 9:58:23 AM PST by mystery-ak (*terrorism has been exaggerated*....Kerry....We must defeat him, our lives depend on it.)
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To: Coop
That needs to be made into a poster and shown everywhere. When they call it 'negative campaigning', how are they going to get around the fact all it is doing is showing the cover of John Kerry's book. No changes, just what Kerry had on the book. What a patriot.
35 posted on 02/04/2004 10:05:26 AM PST by bushfamfan
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To: Uncle Hal
What polarization? Almost all the hate and venom and is spewing from the left.
36 posted on 02/04/2004 10:36:19 AM PST by Coop (God bless our troops!)
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To: Carl/NewsMax
It's immediately after Vietnam that's issue, Poodle_Boy.
37 posted on 02/04/2004 10:59:23 AM PST by .cnI redruM (Vae victis! - [woe to the vanquished].)
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To: Carl/NewsMax
And its 1-2-3 what are we fighting for?

Don't ask me I don't give a damn

The next stop is Viet-nam.

38 posted on 02/04/2004 10:59:51 AM PST by Clemenza (East side, West side, all around the town. Tripping the light fantastic on the sidewalks of New York)
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To: Samwise
Rule 2: Reporters believe liberal "Facts", illogic, and inconsistency are irrelevant.
39 posted on 02/04/2004 11:22:56 AM PST by weegee
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To: Coop
The only copy of that book I can find on the network of used book dealers at bookfinder.com is priced at $750.00.

I wonder if John Efn' Kerry had an aide employed who's only task was to buy up copies of that book.

There are 2 copies currently on ebay ($150 and $25)

The person selling the signed copy would have had something special if he had Mr. Kerry date it as well:

Written by presidential hopeful, Senator John Kerry, this book chronicals an anti-war protest held in 1971 by the Vietnam Veterans Against The War. Due to the controversial nature of the book, most copies were pulled off the shelves when Kerry decided to run for office making this book a rare find. This was recently signed by John Kerry during the Iowa Caucuses in Iowa City at the Old Capital Mall, January 16, 2004. Broadcast being signed on Fox News.

I have to wonder if Kerry even realized what he was signing. Does he still embrace this book? Did Fox News air the clip of him signing this much?

Closed auctions on ebay were priced at:

$355.00 (27 bids, sold), $113.50 (9 bids, sold), $300.00 (1 bid, sold), $355.01 (36 bids, reserve not met, this is the same signed copy now at $25), $132.50 (39 bids, sold), $282.00 (24 bids, sold), $1,000.00 (no bids, not sold), $176.05 (30 bids, sold), $167.79 (12 bids, sold), $152.50 (17 bids, sold), $355.00 (22 bids, reserve not met, the same signed copy again)

40 posted on 02/04/2004 12:06:36 PM PST by weegee
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To: RetiredArmy
Any chance Kerry would MOVE to Vietnam???

The Vietnamese are good people. I wouldn't wish that on them. :)

41 posted on 02/04/2004 12:22:22 PM PST by killjoy
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To: killjoy
Well, maybe some of them, but not all. They are still communist by the way.
42 posted on 02/04/2004 12:39:02 PM PST by RetiredArmy (We'll put a boot in your ass, it's the American Way! Toby Keith)
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To: mystery-ak
"I can't understand why he is getting all this support from Vets." Let's be clear. The vast majority of veterans in general and Viet Nam veterans in particular DO NOT SUPPORT KERRY! And I can tell you unequivocally that Kerry does not have the support of United States Marines! PERIOD! Semper Fi, Kelly


43 posted on 02/04/2004 12:43:28 PM PST by kellynla ("C" 1/5 1st Mar. Div. U.S.M.C. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi!)
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To: shhrubbery!
So no one's in love with Kerry. And those with high hopes for him are being set up for a huge disappointment when they learn more about their...blind date.

One has to wonder how man alleged Kerry supporters are going to go from "dance with the one that brung ya" to "waking up next to a coyote date" once the real Kerry record of "achievement" comes to light.

44 posted on 02/04/2004 1:08:16 PM PST by SpinyNorman
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To: Carl/NewsMax
Now that Kerry is the leader they are trying to get the Viet Nam era off the table as an issue. Kerry's antiwar actions will survive stand scrutiny.
45 posted on 02/04/2004 1:54:05 PM PST by Mike Darancette (Bush Bot by choice)
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To: Coop
First off let me say thanks for posting this picture. Also it makes a great background for my PC so that every time I start it I am reminded of what a scumbag, backstabbing piece of s**t John is and was!
47 posted on 02/04/2004 1:59:29 PM PST by rocksblues (Keep em Flying and come home safe!)
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To: Mike Darancette
will survive stand scrutiny. s/b not survive scrutiny.

48 posted on 02/04/2004 3:30:07 PM PST by Mike Darancette (Bush Bot by choice)
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To: Neenah
I only heard the part where he was asking vets to call in (either for or against Kerry). I got to work before the calls came in.

I would have been so angry. We must get the word out how this guy changes his tune with what is popular.

Thanks for that information. It makes me angry about Kerry's lying and manipulation.
49 posted on 02/04/2004 4:20:54 PM PST by BushisTheMan
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To: Carl/NewsMax
Kerry says *Bush* is "making Vietnam an issue"??


50 posted on 02/04/2004 7:22:11 PM PST by Ichneumon
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