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KERRY AND TERRY INSULT NATIONAL GUARD
Republican National Committee ^ | February 4, 2004 | RNC Research

Posted on 02/04/2004 12:41:58 PM PST by PhiKapMom

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To: PhiKapMom
Of course it's good cop bad cop. That's the way both sides handle this. Everyone has their attack dogs. Everybody knows that.

Whatever lady. I just think it's a bad idea to try to insult the intellegence of Veterans.

If you want to attack Kerry, attack his record in the Senate. Leave the military records out of this.
181 posted on 02/05/2004 8:50:45 AM PST by seth456
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To: Liz
That is SO good! Thanks for posting.
182 posted on 02/05/2004 8:57:34 AM PST by windchime (Podesta about Bush: "He's got four years to try to undo all the stuff we've done." (TIME-1/22/01))
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To: PhiKapMom
Good grief! This is disgusting. Certainly the National Guard has proved their worth and their bravery many times over. And it's not 2nd class service, as John Kerry and Terry McCauliffe would have you believe.

I'm 65 years old, and I can remember so many times in my lifetime that the National Guard has been called into service -- everything from helping out victims of national disasters, such as earthquakes and floods and tornados to patrolling the streets of cities to keep order during times of political dissent.

I well remember the National Guard coming to the rescue in Berkeley in the 1960s when I lived there. This was not 'easy' duty for those brave young men. They were spat upon and stoned by Kerry cohorts.

I am grateful for National Guard service. It is not convenient for guardsmen and women to be called away from their regular jobs and sent who-knows-where at a moment's notice. As an employer I've released employees to go and welcomed them back afterward.

Certainly in the modern era, the National Guard has been called on more than ever. Clinton and his sidekick Kerry depleted our armed forces during the 1990s and squadered the peace dividend left them by George Bush, the father. The Clinton Administration left our regular armed services weakened and the nation vulnerable to the 9/11 attacks. The National Guard has helped us out of a pickle and contributed to the spectacular victories we enjoyed in Afghanistan and Iraq.

Kerry, Kennedy, & Klinton should crawl back under their rocks and live with the spiders like their buddy Saddam.

183 posted on 02/05/2004 9:06:26 AM PST by afraidfortherepublic (Re-elect Dubya)
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To: windchime
Correction: It was "prancing around the deck of an aircraft carrier PRETENDING to be a pilot!" I don't remember who said it because I couldnt watch the show -- it was so disgusting. PRETENDING???

By George, George IS a pilot. He was termed "one of the best ever to go throught the program" according to his superior officer.

BTW, I heard George Bush himself say that the reason he didn't return to flying aircraft in is last months before completing his NG service is that during his leave of absence they had changed planes and he wasn't trained on the new plane yet.

The steam just pours out of my ears everytime I her the Dems on these stupid allegations. I wonder why the Dems are trying to distract us with this stupidity? What are they hiding?

184 posted on 02/05/2004 9:12:30 AM PST by afraidfortherepublic (Re-elect Dubya)
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To: afraidfortherepublic
I think it was Clark who used the "prancing" word.

Jerkus Maximus
185 posted on 02/05/2004 9:18:21 AM PST by cyncooper
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To: afraidfortherepublic
'Correction: It was "prancing around the deck of an aircraft carrier PRETENDING to be a pilot!"'

I stand corrected, afraidfortherepublic. That needed to be stated to better define the derrogatory nature of the exchange.

It was Howard Wolfson, the Hillary operative, that made the statement. My television sets will be lucky to survive this election season.

The motive is distraction. Only guesses as to from what....here are some possibilities:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1071983/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1072003/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1069871/posts
186 posted on 02/05/2004 10:12:16 AM PST by windchime (Podesta about Bush: "He's got four years to try to undo all the stuff we've done." (TIME-1/22/01))
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To: windchime
Democrats keep mocking GWB over the National Guard. Some suggest he joined the Guard to avoid active duty military service.

Ask a Liberal Dumbocrat the meaning of Article 2 of the US Constitution: “A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.”

Dims will invariably respond, “ Arming a Militia means the National Guard, and not that private US citizens can own and carry firearms.

So then, on one hand Dumbocrats consider the National Guard (Militia) a lesser part of the military because GWB was a member. OTOH, the Dims categorically believe the Guard is specifically mentioned in the Constitution as the protector of our freedoms.

Talk about liberal hypocrisy.

The concept of an armed National Guard ever at the ready was considered an integral part of our freedoms even before we had a country or military.

187 posted on 02/05/2004 10:34:47 AM PST by Liz
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To: Liz
"Talk about liberal hypocrisy."

The leftists use whatever works for them at the time. My thinking is that the old, debunked AWOL charge is serving a purpose for them right now. The media sure bit.

Their attempt to diminish the stature of President Bush has resulted in consequences that one would think they'd have considered before they initiated the recent assault.
188 posted on 02/05/2004 12:01:50 PM PST by windchime (Podesta about Bush: "He's got four years to try to undo all the stuff we've done." (TIME-1/22/01))
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To: PhiKapMom
I don't know about what you say, though I met a lot of guardsmen and reserves in those years. The point of view I expressed was universal amongst the Viet Nam boys, in my experience.

I keep hearing about all of these not politically connected Viet Nam era reserve and guardsmen, but ran into reservists while in military training, and stand behind my statements. They were all very relieved to be out of it. I left Viet Nam in February '68, and never heard of a guardsman who hadn't volunteered being there while I was. A bunch of reserve officers were there, though, but these were men who had a choice about going, and were all in support operations in my experience. If guardsmen were sent to Viet Nam, I bet they were pissed.
189 posted on 02/05/2004 12:01:55 PM PST by Iris7 ("Duty, Honor, Country". The first of these is Duty, and is known only through His Grace)
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To: Carolinamom
...Kerry said that he had "experienced aircraft carriers" (his words). What does THAT mean?

It means he's been to San Diego.

190 posted on 02/05/2004 12:05:55 PM PST by SGCOS
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To: windchime
We ain't seen nuttin yet. Get ready for a down and dirty several months.
191 posted on 02/05/2004 3:11:11 PM PST by Liz
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To: SGCOS
ROTFLMCO........good zinger. We gotta remember that one.
192 posted on 02/05/2004 3:13:40 PM PST by Liz
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To: PhiKapMom
Old Sarge will not be posting to this thread.

Sarge is currently self-administering anger management, in the form of gnawing off the corner of his console while on duty, as a result of reading this thread.

Sarge will return to duty, as soon as the Demoral kicks in, and the work order for the console is prepared.

Thank You.

193 posted on 02/06/2004 3:11:39 PM PST by Old Sarge
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To: redhawk
Having served USAR (US Army Regular)and ONG (Ohio National Guard) And having Honorable Discharges from both I OBJECT strongly to Kerry. There were those in the Guard who were there for the college money, but on talking with them they also said that there was a chance if the "S**T hit the FAN" that they guessed they would be going somewhere.

The Guard and Reserves ARE MILITARY SERVICE and DNC chair Mc"ALF" is just an IDIOT.

By the way thanks for SERVING.... I SALUTE You.
194 posted on 02/06/2004 3:18:10 PM PST by Michael121 (An old soldier knows truth. Only a Dead Soldier knows peace.)
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To: Tragically Single
I agree completely. I am 33 years old and my father has served in the Guard for the past 34 years. He is currently serving in Iraq. The American people definitely need to wake up and smell the coffee. If Kerry is elected President, we are all in a world of trouble. His big selling point, "Bring our soldiers home"...great, but I am proud of what my dad is doing for me and my country. I hate he is gone, but I know that he is doing what he loves to do. Love of God and Country were instilled in me at a very young age...needs to be reintroduced into alot more homes.
195 posted on 06/13/2004 12:48:06 AM PDT by alleycat70 (Proud daughter of AL Nat'l Guardsman serving in Iraq)
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To: rintense

Amen...I agree completely. My father has served in the Guard for the past 34 yearsand is currently serving in Iraq. The American people definitely need to wake up. If Kerry is elected President, we are all in a world of trouble. He preaches "Bring our soldiers home"...great, but I am proud of what my dad is doing for me and my country. I hate he is gone and worry everyday, but I know that he is doing what he loves to do, Love of God and Country. Kerry is a jackass and does not deserve the freedom that the men and women of this Country's National Guard so valiently defend. Maybe he should be appointed to the security council in Iraq. Since he prides himself on being such a "soldier", maybe he should stop hiding behind his wife's money and grow a set.


196 posted on 06/13/2004 12:55:12 AM PDT by alleycat70 (Proud daughter of AL Nat'l Guardsman serving in Iraq)
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To: eskimo

Whatever...do you mean to say that National Guardsmen are not "real" soldiers. I have a father serving in Iraq, so I would say that gives me a reason to disagree with you. John Kerry does not have the sense to run this country. Lucky for him he married money. He is a jackass that flip flops on every issue presented to him. He states his position to be in accordance with his audience. I've yet to hear him state anything of real value. The American "simple minded" people favor him because he tells them what they want to hear. I do not like the fact that my father is in Iraq, but I know he is doing the right thing and of that I am bursting with pride. My father joined the guard 34 years ago, which if memory serves was during the Vietnam War. My father is no coward and did not dodge the draft by joining the National Guard. I take great offense to your statement, that "that is why people joined the guard". That's saying that everyone that joined the guard during that time, only joined to avoid war...think again. I do see that you said you were not so lucky...for that I am sorry and I also extend gratitude for the sacrifices that you made. But as a vetern of war, I would think that you'd not be so cinical and pretty much call the rest cowards. Everyone does not join the military for the right reason...look at the number of Marine and Naval Aviators who are only in flight programs to gain flight hours and go commercial. I think that our problem today is not dealing with our pasts (everyone seems to want to sweep that under the rug), but that we should take more pride in our country and celebrate how lucky we are because of brave men and women that are willing to fight for freedom.


197 posted on 06/13/2004 1:17:35 AM PDT by alleycat70 (Proud daughter of AL Nat'l Guardsman serving in Iraq)
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To: kegler4

Are you this prejudiced in all your thinking?? My father joined the guard 34 years ago, which if I am correct was during Vietnam. My father is still in the National Guard and is currently serving in Iraq. In defense of all National Guardsmen, I think that anyone speaking ill of their service should be completely ashamed. They have been the largest number of soldiers serving in this conflict. As I said my father joined many yrs ago (along with numerous other members of his battalion). Stands to reason if you join to avoid war, you get out when your term is complete...you don't re-up. There are plenty of soldiers that are at and beyond retirement from the National Guard. Don't think they all stayed in for the money ha/ha...Don't degrade a whole group for the actions of a few.


198 posted on 06/13/2004 1:28:51 AM PDT by alleycat70 (Proud daughter of AL Nat'l Guardsman serving in Iraq)
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To: PhiKapMom

Thank you...I don't know how many replies have sent tonight in response to best I can see, pure ignorance. People take for granted what our men and women serving in National Guard and Reserves do for our country. My father is currently serving in Iraq, he has been in the National Guard for 34 years...and will probably be in til they kick him out. Anyway, just wanted to reply and extend my heart felt thanks for your support in what the National Guard has and is doing for the US.


199 posted on 06/13/2004 1:33:13 AM PDT by alleycat70 (Proud daughter of AL Nat'l Guardsman serving in Iraq)
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To: alleycat70
Whatever...do you mean to say that National Guardsmen are not "real" soldiers.

I would never say such a thing. I have not been here for days. When am I supposed to have said this?

200 posted on 06/13/2004 10:15:55 AM PDT by eskimo
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