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IRAQ: Tape Shows Attacks On U.S. Troops
CBS News ^ | Feb. 3, 2004 | unknown

Posted on 02/04/2004 1:41:28 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach

Tape Shows Attacks On U.S. Troops

Feb. 3, 2004




Footage from the militants' tape shows an explosion involving a U.S. military vehicle.  (Photo: CBS)



"The tape is certainly not only authentic but highly well-produced."
M.J. Gohel,
terrorism expert


Video still from the militant Islamic tape shows one of the group members, a purported suicide bomber.  (Photo: CBS)


(CBS) The people who produced a tape obtained by CBS News say it shows the real thing: attacks on U.S. forces videotaped by the men who carried them out. As CBS News Correspondent Allen Pizzey reports, they are members of a previously unheard-of Islamic fundamentalist group that calls itself Jaish Ansar al-Sunni.

The group appears to be an offshoot of another organization operating here that the U.S. says has ties to al Qaeda. Their stated aim is to kill Americans and set up an Islamic state in Iraq.

"The tape is certainly not only authentic but highly well-produced," says M.J. Gohel, a terrorism expert with the Asia-Pacific Foundation. "This is strong evidence. This only confirms what we have always suspected. That there is a foreign Islamic presence in Iraq."

The video showcases the group's arsenal and a deadly track record.

Spanish officials confirmed Tuesday night that identity cards shown on the tape belong to members of a group of seven Spanish intelligence officers killed in an ambush on Nov. 30. Until now, no one knew who did it. Other cards appear to be from a Canadian killed Jan. 5 while working for a U.S. contractor.

But the most chilling sequence comes halfway through the 35-minute presentation. It features statements by six young men alleged to have subsequently carried out suicide missions.

The accents of at least three are non-Iraqi, and one speaks Kurdish.

The tape does not appear to have been made as propaganda for a wide audience but rather to be shown in secret; a tool to recruit young Iraqi men for suicide missions. If it succeeds it could raise the insurgency to a new level.

The journalist who obtained the videotape was told by the guerrillas that foreign fighters have carried out 70 percent of the attacks so far.

"They are supplying one single guide to the foreign fighters on the border and leading that foreign fighter, suicide bomber to his target as soon as possible," says journalist Phillip Smucker.

But Iraqi suicide bombers could blend into the crowd. American military officials admit that so far they have not identified a single bomber.

It is impossible to verify that these men actually carried out attacks, but claims made in the video match details of six bombing, including one in which six people died.

U.S. officials say they expect more of the same, which the Jaish al-Sunni video promises to deliver.


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alqaedairaq; iraq; martyrsiniraq; recruits; videotape; waronterror

1 posted on 02/04/2004 1:41:29 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Cap Huff; Ragtime Cowgirl
Please read and help alert all to this important information:

Armor shell games & body bags

Our newly deployed troops have problems getting armor which is vital!

2 posted on 02/04/2004 1:45:47 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The terrorists and their supporters declared war on the United States - and war is what they got!!!!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
CBS news is now the propaganda wing of those who would KILL AMERICANS!!!

Let CBS know the true meaning of the 2nd Amendment.

3 posted on 02/04/2004 1:46:35 PM PST by steplock (www.FOCUS.GOHOTSPRINGS.com)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Now the question is....How does CBS have such close ties to the terrorist that they can become the U.S. branch of Al-Qaida Tv?
4 posted on 02/04/2004 1:50:26 PM PST by marty60
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
"If it succeeds it could raise the insurgency to a new level."

Ummm, yea I'm sure this is the case.

They just make this stuff up, don't they.
5 posted on 02/04/2004 1:51:52 PM PST by ruiner
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
"The accents of at least three are non-Iraqi, and one speaks Kurdish. "
What kind of expert is this, that describes it as "well produced" ?
6 posted on 02/04/2004 1:59:34 PM PST by Truth666
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
And your passing more garbage designed to demoralize American troops!

This is total crap story about the US not providing body armor to troops.

Go crawl back to your DU sty.
7 posted on 02/04/2004 2:03:50 PM PST by steplock (www.FOCUS.GOHOTSPRINGS.com)
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To: Dog
Ping
8 posted on 02/04/2004 2:05:01 PM PST by Cap Huff
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
There was a thread either late last year or early this year about a journalist who was hanging around with a terrorist group that showed him video of them attacking American troops.

The media has been siding with the enemy by "remaining neutral".

9 posted on 02/04/2004 2:13:44 PM PST by weegee
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To: steplock
Go crawl back to your DU sty.

E@theB has been around here a long time. I suggest you show some respect.

10 posted on 02/04/2004 2:15:24 PM PST by Glenn (What were you thinking, Al?)
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To: steplock
From the article:

____________________________________________________________

This brings us to the need to look at what we buy and why we pay what we do.

Take for instance the very expensive "SAPI" ceramic body-armor inserts that have been in desperately short supply. The Army will be almost up to supplying the needs in combat areas this month (if suppliers meet their deadlines, but none of them are). But as the Army leadership is most carefully prioritizing who gets them, the flipside is that very few of our units not in an active combat area have them and no protective gear will go back with units as they rotate out of theater. So we are still in a shortage situation overall and therefore can expect an increased casualty rate in any combat-exposed units that are deployed to another hot spot.

And from the end of the article!

____________________________________________________________________

A late breaking addition to this commentary!

This writer provided the information above – along with corroborating evidence – to Republican Congressman Rob Simmons (2nd District, Conn.) who went public on WTIC’s "Connecticut Today Show" on Monday, Feb. 2, and declared that he was taking the membership of the House Armed Services Committee to Aberdeen next week where they will require the armor to be shot at for testing, so they can witness it.

If the materials pass, they will force the Army to get the armor to the troops. Congressman Simmons went on to say that some 60 companies had been stonewalled by Aberdeen and /or were willing to manufacture armor under license in order to provide our troops with the equipment they need and that the situation of single manufacturer, who can not meet our needs, will be ended.

11 posted on 02/04/2004 2:35:14 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The terrorists and their supporters declared war on the United States - and war is what they got!!!!)
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To: Glenn
Thanks!
12 posted on 02/04/2004 2:37:32 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The terrorists and their supporters declared war on the United States - and war is what they got!!!!)
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To: steplock
From what I have been told from a family whose son leaves in the week, they bought him his own Police Armor to bring with him, and to use his own flak jacket to line the doors.

This is a man from church, a Police officer.

Another man from church is in Kuwait for the last 9 or 11 months. It is confirmed that Police armour works better than the regular issue flak jacket. His dad is 2 tours Vietnam, and a retired Col from the CTANG and Army Reserve.

So...the story is true, many people are buying protective armor from home before deploying.
13 posted on 02/04/2004 2:37:48 PM PST by RaceBannon (John Kerry is Vietnam's Benedict Arnold: Former War Hero turned Traitor)
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To: RaceBannon
Aberdeen seems to be locked in analysis paralysis.

The more serious problem seems to be the armor for vehicles like supply trucks.

14 posted on 02/04/2004 2:52:55 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The terrorists and their supporters declared war on the United States - and war is what they got!!!!)
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To: mystery-ak
fyi
15 posted on 02/04/2004 2:54:18 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The terrorists and their supporters declared war on the United States - and war is what they got!!!!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
There are steps being taken to provide more armor for trucks, humvees and choppers...I wish I had the details but that was what I was told by my hubby in Iraq who could not tell me more...I posed these same concerns to him and that was is answer to me.....
16 posted on 02/04/2004 3:10:03 PM PST by mystery-ak (*terrorism has been exaggerated*....Kerry....We must defeat him, our lives depend on it.)
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To: mystery-ak
Armored humvees in sufficient quantity are scheduled to be available by Summer 05. Retrofit kits will be available by late this year for softskin humvees with no real help for the 3000 or so trucks and other support vehicles. We can probably expect another 500 or so casualties this calendar year. Its primarily a problem of military priority and procurement. It is not a production problem. I have been able to personally confirm this.
17 posted on 02/04/2004 4:04:13 PM PST by Ranger
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Al-Qaeda started using video clips of Americans' in Iraq getting shot up in unarmored humvees beginning in October 03. This was reported by Associated Press about the 20th of October. This is the first I've actually seen the videos however, even though the AP reporter said that they had been posted on the internet at some point last fall. I suspect this is a second video and not the one from that time period because of the introduction of suicide bombers.
18 posted on 02/04/2004 4:06:26 PM PST by Ranger
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To: marty60
Their reporters (CBS) are blindfolded to an unknown destination then deployed with the Terrorists so they can videotape the attacks on our soldiers. I read this on FR sometime back. Sorry do NOT have SOURCE though. It is not very hard for me to believe given the utter hatred CBS and the mainstream have for our military.
19 posted on 02/04/2004 4:09:15 PM PST by PISANO (God Bless our Troops........They will not TIRE - They will not FALTER - They will not FAIL!!!!!)
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To: Ranger
I know the choppers are being modified some way, my hubby couldn't tell me how....these poor troops on the ground are so unprotected and sitting ducks.
20 posted on 02/04/2004 4:09:57 PM PST by mystery-ak (*terrorism has been exaggerated*....Kerry....We must defeat him, our lives depend on it.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
btt
21 posted on 02/04/2004 4:17:36 PM PST by NeonKnight
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To: Ranger; mystery-ak; Cannoneer No. 4
Cannoneer No. 4 just posted some good info on the vehicle armor kits here:

Armor shell games & body bags

22 posted on 02/04/2004 4:40:16 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The terrorists and their supporters declared war on the United States - and war is what they got!!!!)
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To: PISANO
Is this true...I haven't heard this.
23 posted on 02/04/2004 4:48:56 PM PST by mystery-ak (*terrorism has been exaggerated*....Kerry....We must defeat him, our lives depend on it.)
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To: PISANO
Good grief. Apparently they haven't heard about Daniel Pearl.

Because if they have, and they still go willingly along with terrorists, they are utter fools. And some will wind up dead because of it.
24 posted on 02/04/2004 6:58:39 PM PST by BagCamAddict (Tell the Troops: DO NOT TRUST ANY IRAQI WHO IS 40 POUNDS OVERWEIGHT !!)
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To: mystery-ak
We need to bring back light tanks like the Walker Bulldog.
25 posted on 02/04/2004 7:03:08 PM PST by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: AppyPappy
What we have is not working in Iraq, apparently they were not designed for this kind of warfare....we need something like what the Brits used to use in Northern Ireland...I don't remember what they are, but looked pretty effective.
26 posted on 02/04/2004 7:15:57 PM PST by mystery-ak (*terrorism has been exaggerated*....Kerry....We must defeat him, our lives depend on it.)
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To: mystery-ak
I believe they are called "pigs". It's an armored car.
27 posted on 02/04/2004 7:22:33 PM PST by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
The journalist who obtained the videotape was told by the guerrillas that foreign
fighters have carried out 70 percent of the attacks so far.

"They are supplying one single guide to the foreign fighters on the border and
leading that foreign fighter, suicide bomber to his target as soon as possible,"
says journalist Phillip Smucker.


"Welcome to Iraq, Islamic brother. Hope you enjoy your detonation during your stay!"

Too bad Gen. Patton isn't around to give his take on this "letting the other poor
dumb bastard die for his (the host's!) country"!
28 posted on 02/04/2004 7:27:26 PM PST by VOA
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To: AppyPappy
Pigs....LOL...perfect for Iraq.
29 posted on 02/04/2004 7:28:50 PM PST by mystery-ak (*terrorism has been exaggerated*....Kerry....We must defeat him, our lives depend on it.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Let Aberdeen stand for the entire military procurement system as it has developed since the overlordship of Robert Strange McNamara.
30 posted on 02/04/2004 7:31:50 PM PST by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them, or they like us?)
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