Was Bush AWOL? Democrats Attack...and a Retired Naval Reserve Officer Responds

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[End Times Sentinel]

Around that time, Bush decided to go to work for Winton "Red" Blount, a Republican running for the U.S. Senate, in Alabama. Documents from Ellington Air Force Base in Houston state that Bush "cleared this base on 15 May." Shortly afterward, he applied for assignment to the 9921st Air Reserve Squadron in Montgomery, Ala., a unit that required minimal duty and offered no pay. Although that unit's commander was willing to welcome him, on May 31 higher-ups at the Air Reserve Personnel Center in Denver rejected Bush's request to serve at the 9921st, because it did not offer duty equivalent to his service in Texas. "[A]n obligated Reservist [in this case, Bush] can be assigned to a specific Ready Reserve position only," noted the disapproval memo, a copy of which was sent to Bush. "Therefore, he is ineligible for assignment to an Air Reserve Squadron."

Despite the military's decision, Bush moved to Alabama.

This seems as though it would pose a problem for W., IF true.

Owl_Eagle

”Guns Before Butter.”

[PLOM...NOT!]

Thanks a lot Michael Moore!

Michael Moore is the boob in the DNC's halftime show!

[Valin]

Why didn't you have a problem with Bill Clinton?


Because. Next question.

[.38sw]

Do you really want to get anywhere close to the source for those claims?

No, I just thought a challenge to the troll was appropriate.

[gatorbait]

No, I just thought a challenge to the troll was appropriate.

That it was. Guess my play on words missed the mark..

[grania]

Kerry's only 60; there was a draft throughout the 1950's and 60's. Kerry isn't older than the draft system.

What he is older than is the system where birthdays were given numbers used for call ups, to make the draft fair. My point is that the upper echelons were doing just fine getting out of serving. Senator Kerry wasn't drafted, was he? I'd be surprised if the reason he signed up was to avoid being drafted.

[.38sw]

It's too early in the morning out here on the left coast for me to catch on to word plays, and I haven't even had my first cup of coffee yet.

That's my story and I'm stickin' to it.

[Mike Darancette]

The goal is to taint the carrier landing to the point President Bush will be afraid to use the video in his campaign.

I think that the Ground Zero stuff and the picture of The President in contemplation in his office are more powerful.

As to the reason I still say it is to poison Viet Nam as an issue if the main election (so that there will be no discussion of Kerry's giving aid and comfort to the North Viet Namese.

[OneCitizen]

Re Clinton. It was a problem for me and not the only one. I didn't vote for him. I followed the campaign and this issue among others spelled trouble. I watched Bill Clinton in '92 and I knew the Democrats were headed for trouble. If you research the results of the first 10 or so Democratic primary contests in '92, you'd find Clinton losing all of them. Democratic voters were trying to get the attention of the Democratic establishment to deal with Bill Clinton.

[claudiustg]

The important thing, I think, is that people don't really like being reminded of the Vietnam days. The hardcore Dems think they're hurting the President, but they're hurting themselves. Denigrating NG and Reserve service is not a good idea.
I hope they stick that fat-ass Michael Moore out front often. He was never a soldier or an auto worker for that matter, and outside of Hollywood people know that. He's just a walking turn-off.
Kerry with his fake theatrics and liberal record will go down like Mondale. It's going to be painful to watch.

[CyberAnt]

Well .. that's not what Wolfson said. He said, "the republicans started it with the carrier landing".

You don't have to believe me, but I was watching the show and I heard him say it.

But .. if you don't want a discussion on Vietnam, then why are the democrats even brining it up. They're saying we started it, but they are actually the ones who started it with Michael Moore's "deserter" statement. If they didn't want to talk about Vietnam, that was a stupid move.

Also .. this claim that the repubs started it .. is just another glaring example of how the "projection" technique works. The dems have blamed the repubs for bringing it up, when in fact it was the dems who brought it up.

[Mike Darancette]

You don't have to believe me,

Oh, I heard it too, from McAliff no less. But the reason stated does not hold water, a debate on the Carrier picture will get, well, the carrier picture being broadcast (for free).

The Dems through Kerry surrogates are causing the AWOL furor so that Kerry can come out, himself, and say, "Lets move ahead and not discuss what happened 30 years ago". Kerry has more baggage over Viet Nam than the President.

OBTW: A RAT sockpuppet cannot say anything that I am bound to take at face value.

[CyberAnt]

You're arguing semantics .. and saying the statement from Wolfson doesn't hold water because it doesn't fit with your opinion of why the dems are bringing up this issue.

And .. you didn't hear what Wolfson said (because McAwful did not say that). McAwful said that Bush was AWOL. Wolfson said something else. Wolfson may have said the carrier video was the issue .. when it really wasn't. But that doesn't deny that Wolfson said what he did.

I realize it may be a smokescreen .. but I do believe the dems are really worried about that video. I remember all the hoopla over it initially and McAwful's statement to the RNC that it could not be allowed in Bush's campaign .. and this was way before Kerry was a potential candidate.

[bk1000]

I wonder what Saddam thinks about W's military capability?
Might ask the Taliban the same question.

[Mike Darancette]

...and saying the statement from Wolfson doesn't hold water because it doesn't fit with your opinion of why the dems are bringing up this issue.

Watch and see (I've bookmarked this) Kerry will reprise his 1992 statement about what happened during Viet Nam times should not be a political football.

As to whether Wolfson's statement holds water is not something that can not be easily proved or disproved. They had to have a reason and this was as good as any, IMHO.

[Mike Darancette]

And .. you didn't hear what Wolfson said (because McAwful did not say that).

I didn't hear Wolfson say anything about the carrier incident but I did hear McAliff say it. But it just doesn't ring true coming when it did.

[Valin]

but I do believe the dems are really worried about that video.

Can you blame them?

[deport]

Senator Kerry didn't have to join; he's older than the draft system. It was a choice.

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You know not of what you speak..... He didn't have to join is correct.... but he's not older than the draft system whatever that means....

John Kerry was born on Dec. 11, 1943 and the draft was ended in 1973.... Kerry served from 1966-70. So he was definetly elgible to be drafted .

[CyberAnt]

Heck no! It tells all President Bush is and they are not!!

[oyez]

It's going to be painful to watch.

Not really. I call it pay back.