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CASH AND KERRY'S "BIG DIG" (RNC Research)
Republican National Committee ^ | February 5, 2004 | RNC Research

Posted on 02/05/2004 10:06:04 AM PST by PhiKapMom



CASH AND KERRY’S “BIG DIG”
AP: “Kerry Blocked Law, Drew Cash”
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Charles Lewis, Head Of The Center For Public Integrity: “The Idea That [Sen. John] Kerry [D-MA] Has Not Helped Or Benefited From A Specific Special Interest, Which He Has Said, Is Utterly Absurd.”
  (John Solomon, “Kerry Blocked Law, Drew Cash,” The Associated Press, 2/4/04)

U.S. TRANSPORTATION DEPT. UNCOVERED
“BIG DIG” INSURANCE LOOPHOLE

In 1999, Clinton Transportation Department Uncovered An Insurance Loophole That Had Netted $129.8 Million From Boston’s Infamous “Big Dig” Construction Project.   “[I]n 1999, the Transportation Department uncovered a financing scheme in which the project had overpaid $129.8 million to AIG for worker compensation and liability insurance that wasn’t needed, then had allowed the insurer to keep the money in a trust and invest it in the market.  The government alleged AIG kept about half of the profits it made from the investments, providing the other half to the project.”  (John Solomon, “Kerry Blocked Law, Drew Cash,” The Associated Press, 2/4/04)

CASH AND KERRY BLOCKED PROVISION TO CLOSE LOOPHOLE

In 2000, Kerry Blocked Provision That Would Have Stripped $150 Million From “Big Dig” And Ended Insurance Funding Loophole.   A Senate colleague was trying to close a loophole that allowed a major insurer to divert millions of federal dollars from the nation’s most expensive construction project. John Kerry stepped in and blocked the legislation. … Kerry’s office confirmed Wednesday that as member of the Senate Commerce Committee he persuaded committee chairman John McCain, R-Ariz., to drop a provision that would have stripped $150 million from the project and ended the insurance funding loophole.”  (John Solomon, “Kerry Blocked Law, Drew Cash,” The Associated Press, 2/4/04)

CASH AND KERRY THEN RECEIVED LARGE CONTRIBUTIONS
FROM “BIG DIG” INSURANCE COMPANY, INCLUDING SOFT MONEY

Since Then, Insurance Company Has Donated $30,000 In Corporate Soft Money To Kerry’s 527 Committee And An Additional $18,000 To His Senate And Presidential Campaigns.   “Over the next two years, the insurer, American International Group, paid Kerry’s way on a trip to Vermont and donated at least $30,000 to a tax-exempt group Kerry used to set up his presidential campaign. Company executives donated $18,000 to his Senate and presidential campaigns.”  (John Solomon, “Kerry Blocked Law, Drew Cash,” The Associated Press, 2/4/04)

Ø        In 2001, Insurance Company Even Paid For A Kerry Trip To VT.  “In September 2001, Kerry disclosed to the Senate ethics office that AIG had paid an estimated $540 in travel expenses to cover his costs for a speech in Burlington, Vt.”   (John Solomon, “Kerry Blocked Law, Drew Cash,” The Associated Press, 2/4/04)

Other “Big Dig” Contractors Contributed At Least $60,000 In Soft Money To Kerry’s 527 Citizen Soldier PAC:  Jay Cashman Inc.: $25,000; Lelio “Les” Marino  $25,000 (Co-Founder of Modern Continental Construction Co.); and Modern Continental Construction Co.  $10,000.  (Political Money Line Website, www.tray.com, Accessed 2/4/04; Dick Dahl, “The Big Finish,” Boston Business Journal, 10/5/01)

CASH AND KERRY SPECIAL INTEREST HYPOCRITE

In 2001, Kerry Warned His Senate Colleagues Of Very Thing He Did On “Big Dig.”  “In March 2001, for example, [Kerry] warned his colleagues that taking money from special interests created the perception that Congress was for sale.  ‘When somebody sitting on a particular committee has to go out and raise money from people who have business before that committee, or when someone in the Senate has to ask for money from people who have legislative interests in front of them on which they will vote, there is almost an automatic cloud, he [Kerry] said.’  Kerry should know.  Over the course of his Senate career, he has not been averse to taking campaign cash from companies and firms with a direct interest in his work.”  (Charles Lewis and The Center For Public Integrity, The Buying Of The Presidency 2004, 2004, pp. 364-365)


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2004; aig; bigdig; boston; corrupt; electionpresident; johnkerry; kerry; specialinterests
Looks to me like we have another Clintonite with Kerry -- lack of integrity, lies about ties to special interest, and the list is just starting.
1 posted on 02/05/2004 10:06:06 AM PST by PhiKapMom
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To: MeekOneGOP; onyx; My2Cents; JohnHuang2; Dog Gone; Dog; isthisnickcool; OKSooner; VOA; mhking; ...
If you would like added to this Bush-Cheney '04 ping list for the election, please let me know.

Thanks,

PKM


2 posted on 02/05/2004 10:10:06 AM PST by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- Support Bush-Cheney '04)
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To: PhiKapMom
bttt and bookmarked. cash and kerry, I like it.
3 posted on 02/05/2004 10:15:09 AM PST by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org freeper site)
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To: PhiKapMom


4 posted on 02/05/2004 10:17:54 AM PST by deport (VA EL ARBUSTO VA)
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To: PhiKapMom
B-b-but Kerry wants to get rid of all the special interests...right? "Don't let the door hit you on the way out!"
5 posted on 02/05/2004 10:18:02 AM PST by Sender ("This is the most important election in the history of the world." -DU)
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To: PhiKapMom
I an Ann Coulter article she said that John Kerry considers a room full of rich widow's a "Target Rich Environment"

:-) I love her stinging articles

6 posted on 02/05/2004 10:18:34 AM PST by MJY1288 (VOTE CONSTITUTION PARTY, THE DNC WILL APPRECIATE YOU)
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To: All
AP Exclusive: Kerry blocked law, drew cash
By John Solomon, Associated Press Writer, 2/5/2004

WASHINGTON -- John Kerry intervened in the Senate to keep open a loophole that had allowed a major insurer to divert millions of federal dollars from the nation's most expensive construction project, then received tens of thousand of dollars in donations from the company during the next two years, documents show.

American International Group paid Kerry's way on a trip to Vermont and donated at least $30,000 to a tax-exempt group Kerry used to set up his presidential campaign. Company executives also donated $18,000 to his Senate and presidential campaigns, according to records obtained by The Associated Press.

But Kerry, the current leader of the Democratic presidential race, says there was no connection between his actions in 2000 and the donations that followed in 2001 and 2002.

"John Kerry has long supported getting special interest money out of the political system," campaign spokeswoman Stephanie Cutter said. "If anybody believes that a political contribution influences John Kerry then they are wasting their money."

But some government watchdogs said Kerry's story is a textbook case of Washington special interest politicking that he rails against on the presidential trail.

"The idea that Kerry has not helped or benefited from a specific special interest, which he has said, is utterly absurd," said Charles Lewis, head of the Center for Public Integrity that just published a book on political donations to the presidential candidates.

"Anyone who gets millions of dollars over time, and thousands of dollars from specific donors, knows there's a symbiotic relationship," Lewis said. "He needs the donors' money. The donors need favors. Welcome to Washington. That is how it works."

The documents obtained by AP detail Kerry's effort as a member of the Senate Commerce Committee to persuade committee chairman John McCain, R-Ariz., to drop legislation that would have stripped $150 million from the Big Dig project and ended the insurance funding loophole.

The Massachusetts Democrat actually was critical of the loophole but didn't want money stripped from the project because it would hurt his constituents who needed the Boston project finished, Cutter said.

When the "AIG investment scheme (came) to light, John Kerry called for public hearings to investigate the parties involved and the legality of the investment practices. However, he firmly believed cutting funding for the Big Dig was not the answer," Cutter said.

Instead of McCain's bluntly worded legislation, Kerry asked for a committee hearing in May 2000. Kerry thanked McCain at the start of the hearing for dropping his legislation and an AIG executive was permitted to testify that he believed the company's work for the Big Dig was a good thing even though it was criticized by federal auditors.

"From the perspective of public and worker safety and cost control, AIG's insurance program has been a success," AIG executive Richard Thomas testified.

Asked why Kerry would subsequently accept a trip and money from AIG in 2001 and 2002 if he was concerned by the investment scheme, Cutter replied: "Any contributions AIG made to the senator's campaign came years after the investigation."

The New York-based insurer, one of the world's largest, declined to comment on its donations to Kerry, simply stating, "AIG never requested any assistance from Senator Kerry concerning the insurance we provided the Big Dig."

The Big Dig project has become a symbol of government contracting gone awry, known for its huge cost overruns that now total several billion dollars, and its admissions of mismanagement.

During the 1990s, Sens. Kerry and Edward Kennedy, D-Mass., helped win new federal funding for the project as its costs skyrocketed and threatened to burden the state's government. In 1998, Kerry was credited with winning $100 million in new federal funding.

But in 1999, Transportation Department auditors discovered that Big Dig managers had overpaid $129.8 million to AIG for worker compensation and liability insurance that wasn't needed, then allowed the insurer to keep the money in a trust and invest it in the market. The government alleged AIG kept about half of the profits it made from the investments, providing the other half to the project.

Outraged by the revelations, McCain submitted legislation that would have stripped $150 million from the Big Dig and banned the practice of allowing an insurer to invest and profit from excessive premiums paid with government money.

"Any refunds of insurance premiums or reserve amounts, including interest, that exceed a project's liabilities shall be immediately returned to the federal government," McCain's legislation said.

But Kerry and Kennedy intervened, and McCain withdrew the legislation in 2000 in favor of the hearing.

At that hearing, the Transportation's Department inspector general made a renewed plea for a permanent federal policy banning the overpayment of insurance premiums and subsequent investment for profit -- what McCain had proposed and Kerry helped kill.

"The policy is needed to ensure that projects do not attempt to draw down federal funds for investment purposes under the guise that they are needed to pay insurance claims," the inspector general told senators.

In September 2001, AIG paid an estimated $540 in travel expenses to cover Kerry's costs for a speech in Burlington, Vt., according to a Senate report filed by Kerry.

A few months later in December 2001, several AIG executives gave maximum $1,000 donations to Kerry's Senate campaign on the same day. The donations totaled $9,700 and were followed by several thousand dollars more over the next two years.

Kerry wasn't the only committee member to get AIG donations. In 1999 and early 2000 as the Big Dig issue was pending, McCain received several thousand dollars in donations from executives of the insurer, the records show.

In spring 2002, AIG donated $10,000 to a new tax-exempt group Kerry formed, the Citizen Soldier Fund, to lay groundwork for his presidential campaign. Later that same year, AIG gave two more donations of $10,000 each to the same group, making it one of the largest corporate donors to Kerry's group.

The insurer wasn't the only company connected to the Big Dig to donate to Kerry's new group. Two construction companies on the project -- Modern Continental Group and Jay Cashman Construction -- each donated $25,000, IRS records show.

http://www.boston.com/news/politics/president/kerry/articles/2004/02/05/ap_exclusive_kerry_blocked_law_drew_cash/
7 posted on 02/05/2004 10:21:39 AM PST by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- Support Bush-Cheney '04)
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To: Sender
Edwards is another one that trashes special interest groups while his campaign donations come almost exclusively from trial lawyers and their employees! Interesting that so many lower level employees of trial law firms are donors to Edwards -- does make one wonder!

Special Interest Groups and democRATs like Kerry and Edwards seem to fit like a ball and glove but not to hear them tell it!
8 posted on 02/05/2004 10:25:01 AM PST by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- Support Bush-Cheney '04)
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To: PhiKapMom
"Kerry’s office confirmed Wednesday that as member of the Senate Commerce Committee he persuaded committee chairman John McCain, R-Ariz., to drop a provision that would have stripped $150 million from the project and ended the insurance funding loophole.

Jerk!

Make his wife cough up this money.

Money that could have gone to feeding starving little babies!

9 posted on 02/05/2004 10:25:56 AM PST by Kay Soze ("If you act like a liberal to get Democrat votes, you can't do something conservative when you win")
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To: PhiKapMom
Cash and Kerry LOL

Are any of us really surprised.....by the lack of integrity, lies and ties to special interest.....Is that the DNC platform?
10 posted on 02/05/2004 10:29:34 AM PST by hoosiermama (prayers for all)
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To: PhiKapMom
Lots of interesting connections.

No Limit to How Low Kerry Will Go in Hunt for Big Money

11 posted on 02/05/2004 10:30:05 AM PST by windchime (Podesta about Bush: "He's got four years to try to undo all the stuff we've done." (TIME-1/22/01))
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To: PhiKapMom
The 'pubbies would be in a stronger position here if they'd objected at the time. As it is, it looks like a Republican Senate let Kerry reward his friends and shrugged it off as business as usual.
12 posted on 02/05/2004 10:38:11 AM PST by Grut
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To: Grut
The 'pubbies would be in a stronger position here if they'd objected at the time. As it is, it looks like a Republican Senate let Kerry reward his friends and shrugged it off as business as usual.

Agreed. However, it sure reveals just how false Kerry's claims are that he stands up to the special interests.

13 posted on 02/05/2004 10:42:09 AM PST by dirtboy (Howard Dean - all bike and no path)
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To: PhiKapMom
Doonesbury on Kerry  

October 21, 1971

October 22, 1971

October 23, 1971

 

 

14 posted on 02/05/2004 10:50:51 AM PST by windchime (Podesta about Bush: "He's got four years to try to undo all the stuff we've done." (TIME-1/22/01))
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To: PhiKapMom; All
Cross-linking:

-John Kerry- some selected, informative links...--

15 posted on 02/05/2004 10:59:24 AM PST by backhoe
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To: PhiKapMom
Wow. This cme from the RNC. I thought it was Freeper research at first. Somebody at the RNC has finally got a clue.

Offense!
16 posted on 02/05/2004 11:01:45 AM PST by The South Texan (The Democrat Party and the leftist (ABCCBSNBCCNN NYLATIMES)media are a criminal enterprise!)
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To: hoosiermama
Ca$h & Kerry .... That's almost up there with SoreLoserman! C'mon Freepers .... let's see some CA$H & KERRY Posters!!!
17 posted on 02/05/2004 11:04:26 AM PST by gramcam
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To: Registered
See this post? "Cash & Kerry"......Looks like it's right up your alley!
18 posted on 02/05/2004 11:29:36 AM PST by hoosiermama (Ask Kerry to list the major pieces of enacted legislation he has authored in his career.)
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To: PhiKapMom
The Rats are disarray ~ eradicate the rodents!
Fire democrats ~ hire Republicans!

~~ Bush/Cheney 2004 ~~

19 posted on 02/05/2004 12:44:20 PM PST by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: PhiKapMom

20 posted on 02/05/2004 2:26:24 PM PST by MeekOneGOP (Check out this HILARIOUS story !! haha!: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1060580/posts)
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To: PhiKapMom
Please add me to the ping list, PKM!
21 posted on 02/05/2004 3:07:11 PM PST by LouD
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To: MJY1288
I an Ann Coulter article she said that John Kerry considers a room full of rich widow's a "Target Rich Environment"

I am still laughing. Ann is GOOD, that's why they hate her.

22 posted on 02/05/2004 3:23:07 PM PST by onyx (Your secrets are safe with me and all my friends.)
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To: PhiKapMom
Hey PKM, ping me. I'm gearin' up for this election.
23 posted on 02/05/2004 3:28:31 PM PST by Don'tMessWithTexas
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To: PhiKapMom
THE REAL KERRY

By HOWIE CARR

February 5, 2004 -- BOSTON

ONE of the surest ways to get the phones ringing on any Massachusetts talk-radio show is to ask people to call in and tell their John Kerry stories. The phone lines are soon filled, and most of the stories have a common theme: our junior senator pulling rank on one of his constituents, breaking in line, demanding to pay less (or nothing) or ducking out before the bill arrives.

The tales often have one other common thread. Most end with Sen. Kerry inquiring of the lesser mortal: "Do you know who I am?"

And now he's running for president as a populist. His first wife came from a Philadelphia Main Line family worth $300 million. His second wife is a pickle-and-ketchup heiress.

Kerry lives in a mansion on Beacon Hill on which he has borrowed $6 million to finance his campaign. A fire hydrant that prevented him and his wife from parking their SUV in front of their tony digs was removed by the city of Boston at his behest.

The Kerrys ski at a spa the widow Heinz owns in Aspen, and they summer on Nantucket in a sprawling seaside "cottage" on Hurlbert Avenue, which is so well-appointed that at a recent fund-raiser, they imported porta-toilets onto the front lawn so the donors wouldn't use the inside bathrooms. (They later claimed the decision was made on septic, not social, considerations).

It's a wonderful life these days for John Kerry. He sails Nantucket Sound in "the Scaramouche," a 42-foot Hinckley powerboat. Martha Stewart has a similar boat; the no-frills model reportedly starts at $695,000. Sen. Kerry bought it new, for cash.

Every Tuesday night, the local politicians here that Kerry elbowed out of his way on his march to the top watch, fascinated, as he claims victory in more primaries and denounces the special interests, the "millionaires" and "the overprivileged."

"His initials are JFK," longtime state Senate President William M. Bulger used to muse on St. Patrick's Day, "Just for Kerry. He's only Irish every sixth year." And now it turns out that he's not Irish at all.

But in the parochial world of Bay State politics, he was never really seen as Irish, even when he was claiming to be (although now, of course, he says that any references to his alleged Hibernian heritage were mistakenly put into the Congressional Record by an aide who apparently didn't know that on his paternal side he is, in fact, part-Jewish).

Kerry is, in fact, a Brahmin - his mother was a Forbes, from one of Massachusetts' oldest WASP families. The ancestor who wed Ralph Waldo Emerson's daughter was marrying down.

At the risk of engaging in ethnic stereotyping, Yankees have a reputation for, shall we say, frugality. And Kerry tosses around quarters like they were manhole covers. In 1993, for instance, living on a senator's salary of about $100,000, he managed to give a total of $135 to charity.

Yet that same year, he was somehow able to scrape together $8,600 for a brand-new, imported Italian motorcycle, a Ducati Paso 907 IE. He kept it for years, until he decided to run for president, at which time he traded it in for a Harley-Davidson like the one he rode onto "The Tonight Show" set a couple of months ago as Jay Leno applauded his fellow Bay Stater.

Of course, in 1993 he was between his first and second heiresses - a time he now calls "the wandering years," although an equally apt description might be "the freeloading years."

For some of the time, he was, for all practical purposes, homeless. His friends allowed him into a real-estate deal in which he flipped a condo for quick resale, netting a $21,000 profit on a cash investment of exactly nothing. For months he rode around in a new car supplied by a shady local Buick dealer. When the dealer's ties to a congressman who was later indicted for racketeering were exposed, Kerry quickly explained that the non-payment was a mere oversight, and wrote out a check.

In the Senate, his record of his constituent services has been lackluster, and most of his colleagues, despite their public support, are hard-pressed to list an accomplishment. Just last fall, a Boston TV reporter ambushed three congressmen with the question, name something John Kerry has accomplished in Congress. After a few nervous giggles, two could think of nothing, and a third mentioned a baseball field, and then misidentified Kerry as "Sen. Kennedy."

Many of his constituents see him in person only when he is cutting them in line - at an airport, a clam shack or the Registry of Motor Vehicles. One talk-show caller a few weeks back recalled standing behind a police barricade in 2002 as the Rolling Stones played the Orpheum Theater, a short limousine ride from Kerry's Louisburg Square mansion.

The caller, Jay, said he began heckling Kerry and his wife as they attempted to enter the theater. Finally, he said, the senator turned to him and asked him the eternal question.

"Do you know who I am?"

"Yeah," said Jay. "You're a gold-digger."

John Kerry. First he looks at the purse.

Howie Carr, a Boston Herald columnist and syndicated talk-radio host, has been covering John Kerry for 25 years.

New York Post/Howie Carr/The Real Kerry

24 posted on 02/05/2004 3:38:48 PM PST by Neenah ("It's Always Something!")
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To: Don'tMessWithTexas
Have added you to the list!

Have a bumperstrip with your name sitting on my desk!
25 posted on 02/05/2004 6:13:56 PM PST by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- Support Bush-Cheney '04)
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To: LouD
Have added you to the list!
26 posted on 02/05/2004 6:15:14 PM PST by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- Support Bush-Cheney '04)
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To: windchime
That was from Doonesbury? Amazing!
27 posted on 02/05/2004 6:17:36 PM PST by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- Support Bush-Cheney '04)
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To: Neenah
Thanks for the great post.
May this gold-digger roots get some legs!
28 posted on 02/05/2004 6:24:37 PM PST by aShepard
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To: windchime
thx for the cartoon find! bump
29 posted on 02/06/2004 7:45:18 PM PST by Future Useless Eater (Freedom_Loving_Engineer)
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To: FL_engineer
"thx for the cartoon find! bump"

Thanks belongs to a poster (?) who posted it the other day and I Googled to the link. What I find interesting is that Kerry hasn't changed in the last thirty years. (except for his wife and financial status)
30 posted on 02/07/2004 1:32:36 AM PST by windchime (Podesta about Bush: "He's got four years to try to undo all the stuff we've done." (TIME-1/22/01))
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To: windchime
"(except for his wife and financial status)"

LMAO! THAT IS FUNNY!

31 posted on 02/07/2004 1:35:32 AM PST by onyx (Your secrets are safe with me and all my friends.)
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To: PhiKapMom
The federal government should arrest and prosecute every person involved in the "Big Dig". More like the Big Ripoff.

And I mean every single person!

It's not only a typical liberal, unionized, mafia controlled bureaucracy paying off left wing politicians it's an engineering fiasco. These bozos never had ONE contingency plan and basically makes it up as they go along every time they hit a snag! "What, we can't just lay a tunnel under the harbour and will have to dig a trench? Oh my, how were we to know? Give us more money!"

Every single worker on this job and every politician that sucked the money out should be shot along with their families, pets and then their property should be sold at auction.

Personally, I couldn't care less if snobby Bostonians want to drive underground and have pretty walkways and trees to enjoy. Pay for it yourself you blueblood bas*ards!
32 posted on 02/07/2004 1:41:20 AM PST by Fledermaus (Democrats are just not capable of defending our nation's security. It's that simple!)
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To: onyx
But..but..but, IT'S TRUE! The cartoons are as good today as they were in 1971.
33 posted on 02/07/2004 1:56:37 AM PST by windchime (Podesta about Bush: "He's got four years to try to undo all the stuff we've done." (TIME-1/22/01))
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To: PhiKapMom; Liz; Howlin; ALOHA RONNIE; RonDog
Info bump.

Yesterday, someone called into Hannity's radio show and mentioned something about Bechtel as well. He said there was a major connection...

34 posted on 02/07/2004 8:40:02 AM PST by Libloather (DemocRATs - the biggest hate group going...)
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To: PhiKapMom
Bechtel/Parsons Brinckerhoff Statement on Possible Lawsuit Related to Boston Central Artery/Tunnel
(12/11/2003)

It has been reported that there may be a lawsuit accusing Bechtel/Parsons Brinckerhoff (B/P) of misleading state officials about the true cost of the project. This accusation is demonstrably false.

B/PB is proud of its work on the Central Artery, and accepts full responsibility for that work. We remain committed to participating in an objective, fault-based and credible cost recovery negotiation process, which is the most efficient and effective way to resolve any differences. Should retired Judge Ginsburg determine that lawsuits costing millions of state dollars are preferable to the cost recovery negotiation process, we will without doubt show that B/PB kept the appropriate public officials fully and accurately informed about potential costs at all stages and that those state officials were in full control of all of the decisions which drove project costs.

This issue has received intense scrutiny and has been reviewed by several State and Federal oversight agencies. Indeed, the Inspector General of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts issued a report in March 2001 stating:

“In 1994 Bechtel/Parsons Brinckerhoff (B/PB) provided the Governor and state officials with a Big Dig cost estimate of almost $14 billion, a figure uncannily close to the current $l4.l billion estimate. B/PB’s $14 billion estimate in 1994 starkly contradicted the $8 billion estimate (more exactly $7.998 billion) offered publicly by Big Dig officials at that time...These [state] officials made the management, policy and fiduciary decisions that led the Big Dig to its current financial situation[emphasis added].”

Any attempt to shift to B/PB the responsibility for accumulated decisions by successive administrations and their officials concerning one of the most challenging engineering projects in history is untenable.

We are confident that our accomplishments will stand up to any fair-minded review or legal challenge.

35 posted on 02/07/2004 8:56:06 AM PST by Libloather (DemocRATs - the biggest hate group going...)
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