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YOUR CHILD'S FIRST LESSON IN SOCIALISM
BoortzNuze ^ | 2-5-04 | Neal Boortz

Posted on 02/05/2004 10:56:40 AM PST by FlyLow

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To: FlyLow
Bump for later...
61 posted on 02/05/2004 12:57:35 PM PST by dmanLA
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To: eyespysomething
Please post your husband's article as soon as it's ready, and ping me to it-- I'll be out of town for a couple of weeks, but will check in occasionally, and I'd really like to read it.
62 posted on 02/05/2004 1:01:18 PM PST by hellinahandcart
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To: FlyLow
I learned very sadly today that you aren't exempt in a Christian school either. The kids have a new teacher(our old pastor was called away and his wife was the former kinder teacher). She is just out of college(a Christian college) and she just started this garbage. She's decided that some kids are running low on markers and crayons so she is taking ALL of the kids things and putting them in one big box. She's asked various parents to contribute some new things and she would too.
Don't worry, she is coming back home after this year. Why not sooner? Circumstances don't allow it, but she won't be going back so we'll start homeschooling again in the fall.
63 posted on 02/05/2004 1:01:46 PM PST by cupcakes
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To: d-back
Ping.
64 posted on 02/05/2004 1:02:30 PM PST by NJ Freeper
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
If I had went to school and gave away the supplies my Dad paid for, he would have kicked my butt and then went to the school and raised hell.
65 posted on 02/05/2004 1:02:41 PM PST by philetus (Keep doing what you always do and you'll keep getting what you always get)
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To: CalKat
Just curious how making the parents supply Kleenex and soap make sense to you? Are your school taxes so low that you feel OK donating extra? Surely the school could get a much better price if they bought a truckload of Kleenex and soap.

Compared to the issues that led us to homeschooling these are trivial, but these little things sometimes lead to a deeper understanding of how the schools are (mis)managed.
66 posted on 02/05/2004 1:03:22 PM PST by 3Lean
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To: luckystarmom
If you can homeschool, do it. I still have to push the six year old along but we have silence when she is doing work and a two minute egg timer to help her along. She is getting quicker all the time because she sees the reward in getting the work done. If she finishes all the papers, they can play or we get to do a cool science experiment (today I put an ice cube in a frying pan and heated it until it disappeared).

There is a really cool time video I picked up at the Library. Both girls learned how to tell time by it and her Kindergarten teacher actually bought the thing after seeing it. Caution, too catchy of tunes, mommy is singing the songs in her sleep. Actually I heard all the "Rock and Learn" tapes are good.

All the best!
67 posted on 02/05/2004 1:04:57 PM PST by netmilsmom (God sent Angels- Homeschooling 1/5/04-6 yr.old now 2nd Gr./3 yr old now K)
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To: eyespysomething
Jeez, based on what you and your husband are going through, I would have been jailed. From middle school on, my son was frequently absent - so much so that he would be teased 'nice to see you' in yearbooks, school functions, etc.

The problem (for the school) was, he was in a gifted and talented program, had taken the SATs as a 12 yr old and scored at a high school level, had perfect scores on the various city-wide and Iowa tests, and had excellent report cards. Obviously, they couldn't say he was missing out on his education by not showing up to class.

He'd stay home reading, writing short stories, etc. and go back to school ahead of his classmates, who were no mental slouches either. I guess I was a bad parent. I didn't see how he could go wrong reading the classics of Western literature, science, and the writings of the Founding Fathers. But that's just me.
68 posted on 02/05/2004 1:05:16 PM PST by radiohead
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
Maybe he really doesn't know. ;D
69 posted on 02/05/2004 1:10:17 PM PST by hellinahandcart
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To: RightField
Betcha they have Marx, Engels and Mao's little red toilet paper dispenser....
70 posted on 02/05/2004 1:11:38 PM PST by cavtrooper21 (Hadj podj, I still haven't forgotten 9/11.... That goes for you 'crats out there too.)
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To: plastic_positive
Welcome to Freerepublic.

I know over at DU they do things differently, but here we would love to hear you liberals make the case for government schools. Have at it. (hurry, I think you will be gone soon)

71 posted on 02/05/2004 1:15:02 PM PST by Protagoras (When they asked me what I thought of freedom in America,,, I said I thought it would be a good idea.)
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To: 3Lean
Just curious how making the parents supply Kleenex and soap make sense to you? Are your school taxes so low that you feel OK donating extra? Surely the school could get a much better price if they bought a truckload of Kleenex and soap.

LOL. It only made sense in NYC because the janitors were taking every case of toilet paper and paper towels and Kleenex and soap and SELLING it all at discount prices. It went on for years. And we had to hear over and over how "the poor children have no toilet paper. We need more money!"

And on the other end of the system, the city bought textbooks at the highest price, no discount (no doubt because somebody was getting kickbacks from the publisher). Giuliani suggested buying the same books from Amazon, and his suggestion was met with scorn. "Our children deserve the best! We need more money!"

It's criminal, and nothing will ever really change. I'm so glad I never had children. I'd have to homeschool. :P

72 posted on 02/05/2004 1:19:10 PM PST by hellinahandcart
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To: 3Lean
It made sense to me only because they said they needed it, and I didn't find it enough of an issue to be concerned about. I'm always reading about how the schools need supplies, and the schools here had big cutbacks. My employer made a $25million donation to make up some of the deficit. I really don't know how much my school taxes are. My property taxes are 1.5 or 2.0% (I think -- sorry).

My son is receiving an excellent education in the schools in our town, and I don't find any evidence of the things I read about here. They don't have homosexuals coming and talking to the class, they allow religious t-shirts and have clubs for Republicans, as well as Christian or religious clubs. His school newspaper features opinions from conservatives in the editorial section.

I have been involved with his schools since he started, although now he's in high school so I don't go to the school during school hours, as I did in elementary school. Now I just volunteer on a committee that meets in the evening. The school he attends is a public school, and is ranked in the top 25 in the country in the big survey done every year (I think by US News and World Report).
73 posted on 02/05/2004 1:19:15 PM PST by CalKat
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To: eyespysomething
Our Georgia school has threatened parents with a "social worker" if a child misses more than five days of school in a year. I am completely ticked. I called the State Board of Ed, but they said that it was legal, but ten days was much more common.

I don't like my children's health being held hostage due to a tie to the school funds. They better not send a social worker to MY house.
74 posted on 02/05/2004 1:20:10 PM PST by Politicalmom
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To: CalKat
>>My property taxes are 1.5 or 2.0% (I think -- sorry). <<

I want to move next to you! We pay 4.3%. They are spending 6700.00 per student and still whinning that they don't have enough money.
75 posted on 02/05/2004 1:24:25 PM PST by netmilsmom (God sent Angels- Homeschooling 1/5/04-6 yr.old now 2nd Gr./3 yr old now K)
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To: netmilsmom
I live in California and we have Proposition 13. Our property taxes don't go up (to put it simplistically). There are people here who live in $15 million houses and pay something like $10,000 a year in property taxes. But when Prop. 13 passed they cut a lot of school programs, like sports, band and summer school. So parents have to pay for that kind of stuff.
76 posted on 02/05/2004 1:26:44 PM PST by CalKat
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To: FlyLow
We follow this subject closely at the daily terror thread:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1065689/posts?page=6516

Bump for posting it!
77 posted on 02/05/2004 1:27:23 PM PST by JustPiper (D A M N I T O L Take 2 and the rest of the world can go to hell for up to 8 full hours)
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
Honestly, if I could move back to Berea, Ohio where I grew up, they would be in school. My hubby has looked for jobs there and it is dry. We have to do the best for our kids and this is best here.

You're right! I love it when they get it. When the six year old learned how to carry numbers two days ago, she was bursting at the seams! Her paper is hanging on the fridge and Daddy gave her extra hugs.

78 posted on 02/05/2004 1:28:09 PM PST by netmilsmom (God sent Angels- Homeschooling 1/5/04-6 yr.old now 2nd Gr./3 yr old now K)
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To: philetus
#57
Yes, that's it. You can sometimes find good deals on half.com also. I got another copy of Penny Candy last month for around $6 on half.com.

But, whatever the price, it's an excellent book.

79 posted on 02/05/2004 1:30:09 PM PST by RightField (The older you get . . . the older "old" is !)
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To: netmilsmom
I think I'm going to seriously consider it for next year. I have to talk to the school district. They have an independent study program where the kid reports to a teacher (from the district), the teacher does the testing, and the district supplies the curriculum. I think my kids can do this and still get special ed services. The big thing will be whether or not my daughter can still receive the special ed services. The federal laws were rewritten a few years ago, and the district do not have to pay for special ed for homeschool kids. Lots of homeschool parents are upset. I'm trying to figure out a way around this.
80 posted on 02/05/2004 1:30:21 PM PST by luckystarmom
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