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Statement from John Kerry on CIA Director George Tenetís Speech at Georgetown University
JohnKerry.com ^ | February 5, 2004 | John Kerry

Posted on 02/05/2004 2:38:13 PM PST by Shermy

February 05, 2004

For Immediate Release

“Today, the CIA Director, George Tenet, admitted that the intelligence agencies never told the White House that Iraq posed an imminent threat. But that’s not what the Bush White House told the American people. They said Iraq posed a ‘mortal threat,’ an ‘urgent threat,’ an ‘immediate threat,’ a ‘serious threat,’ and, yes, an ‘imminent threat’ to the people of the United States.

“Today, we found out that George Bush, Dick Cheney, Don Rumsfeld, and the rest of the Administration weren’t passing on sound facts on Iraq to the American people - they were playing politics with our national security.

“Americans should be able to trust that what the President tells them is true - especially when it comes to the life and death decisions of war and peace.

“We need to restore America’s credibility around the world and the trust of the American people in their government at home. That’s not going to happen with a sham commission hand-picked by George Bush to look into how these faulty facts on Iraq made it to the American people. It’s not going to happen while the Bush White House continues its stalling and stonewalling. What we need is for this President to take responsibility - to face the truth - and to finally tell the truth to the American people. And we need that now.”


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2004; cia; frenchkerry; georgetownu; kerry; scaramouche; speech; tenet
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1 posted on 02/05/2004 2:38:15 PM PST by Shermy
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To: ambrose
Ping.
2 posted on 02/05/2004 2:38:31 PM PST by Shermy
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To: Shermy
Bye-bye, ketchup-boy.
3 posted on 02/05/2004 2:39:54 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: Shermy
John, you're not ready for the truth.
4 posted on 02/05/2004 2:40:01 PM PST by tet68
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To: tet68
"Imminent threat"

Will anyone ever ask him to present the quote?

5 posted on 02/05/2004 2:41:02 PM PST by gov_bean_ counter
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To: Shermy
and, yes, an ‘imminent threat’ to the people of the United States.

Looks like he took the bait...assuming Bush never did say "imminent threat", I hope he gets hammered for it.

6 posted on 02/05/2004 2:41:27 PM PST by ErnBatavia (Some days you're the windshield; some days you're the bug)
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To: Shermy
“Americans should be able to trust that what the President tells them is true - especially when it comes to the life and death decisions of war and peace."

....amen....and AMEN brother Kerry.

That's EXACTLEY why you won't be elected.
7 posted on 02/05/2004 2:41:29 PM PST by nobody_knows
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To: Shermy
Watch how fast John MCcain goes from being the republican darling of the left, to just one more evil republican lying for the president.

Should prove interesting to see how the ketchup king attacks MCcain.
8 posted on 02/05/2004 2:42:34 PM PST by cripplecreek (.50 cal border fence)
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To: Shermy
2 + 2 = ? ("1984" reference)

Yes, repeat a lie long enough...
9 posted on 02/05/2004 2:42:42 PM PST by ambrose ("Only The Toes Know...")
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To: EternalVigilance
We need to restore America’s credibility around the world

Translated, he means France.

He's going to han himself on the tricoleur, if the Bush people are smart enough to provoke Kerry to speak less in code. But I think they're to focused on doling out goodies to take notice...

10 posted on 02/05/2004 2:43:04 PM PST by Shermy
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To: Shermy
Does anyone see the irony that the Kerry campaign, recently itself the target of false charges from the Clark campaign, would itself spread lies about the Bush record?
11 posted on 02/05/2004 2:43:43 PM PST by kevkrom (YEEEEEAAAAAAAARRRRRRGGGGGGHHHHHHHH! <splat> -- a prarie dog coming off a speed high)
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To: Shermy
His reply make about is as good as most on FOX today. They must have listened to different speech than I did. I think Tenet did a good job and I am not a Tenet fan. But as he said "If people are willing to listen" What is going on with FOX lately?
12 posted on 02/05/2004 2:43:55 PM PST by not-alone
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To: Shermy
John "effin" Liar. Amazing...
13 posted on 02/05/2004 2:44:17 PM PST by eureka! (The ongoing destruction of the Rat party is giving me smile wrinkles.....)
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To: ErnBatavia
He never said it.
14 posted on 02/05/2004 2:46:00 PM PST by Howlin
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To: ErnBatavia
"Some have said we must not act until the threat is imminent. Since when have terrorists and tyrants announced their intentions, politely putting us on notice before they strike? If this threat is permitted to fully and suddenly emerge, all actions, all words, and all recriminations would come too late. Trusting in the sanity and restraint of Saddam Hussein is not a strategy, and it is not an option."

President Bush, State of the Union Speech, January 28, 2003
15 posted on 02/05/2004 2:46:44 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Howlin
Not to mention that we'd been bombing Iraq for 12 years...or that Kerry himself voted for the ILA which enacted as US law the policy of overthrowing Saddam.
16 posted on 02/05/2004 2:48:30 PM PST by Shermy
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To: Shermy
"Some have said we must not act until the threat is imminent.
Since when have terrorists and tyrants announced their intentions,
politely putting us on notice before they strike? If this threat is
permitted to fully and suddenly emerge, all actions, all words,
and all recriminations would come too late.
Trusting in the sanity and restraint of Saddam Hussein is not a strategy,
and it is not an option."

--GWB SOTU January 28, 2003



"Oh no. Anymore dumb ideas, Ms. Clown?"


17 posted on 02/05/2004 2:48:41 PM PST by Diogenesis (If you mess with one of us, you mess with all of us)
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To: EternalVigilance
Well, EV, I do think that the Kept Man has walked right into it. Wouldn't you agree?

I never thought Tenet had it in him. His speech was a spankfest today.

Be Seeing You,

Chris

18 posted on 02/05/2004 2:49:32 PM PST by section9 (Major Motoko Kusanagi says, "I have John Kerry's medals! No, really, their in my purse!")
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To: ErnBatavia
Here's what Bush said in his SOTU on Jan 28, 2003:

"Some have said we must not act until the threat is imminent. Since when have terrorists and tyrants announced their intentions, politely putting us on notice before they strike? If this threat is permitted to fully and suddenly emerge, all actions, all words, and all recriminations would come too late. Trusting in the sanity and restraint of Saddam Hussein is not a strategy, and it is not an option."
19 posted on 02/05/2004 2:51:27 PM PST by Akira (The people have spoken.....the bastards.)
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To: Howlin
He never said it.

And the media isn't going to clarify this little discrepancy either.

20 posted on 02/05/2004 2:52:40 PM PST by ErnBatavia (Some days you're the windshield; some days you're the bug)
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To: Shermy
And you Jane Fonda Kerry need to tell the truth about your Communist past.
21 posted on 02/05/2004 2:53:38 PM PST by Dan from Michigan ("I donít want to get caught up in any of that Funky s**t goiní down in the city" - Steve Miller)
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To: Shermy
What a lying douche-bag!

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22 posted on 02/05/2004 2:53:53 PM PST by sandpit
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To: Shermy
John F'n Kerry aka Conehead. Nation of origin: France.
23 posted on 02/05/2004 2:54:12 PM PST by dc-zoo
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To: Shermy
Did anyone here expect ketchup boy to say anything else? He's so predictable.....and if one repeats a lie long enough, they'll get dim people to believe it.
24 posted on 02/05/2004 2:55:27 PM PST by Ragirl ("I think there has been an exaggeration")
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To: ErnBatavia
When I was listening to CBS cover Bush's "AWOL problem" last night, I wondered if they'd ever tell the whole truth about Kerry.
25 posted on 02/05/2004 3:03:48 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Howlin
Where are "they" thinking the preident made the "Imminent Threat" comment?? In what speech?
26 posted on 02/05/2004 3:03:53 PM PST by Michael Barnes ( <a href="http://www.michaelmoore.com">miserable failure </a>)
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To: Shermy
The Response should be: Kerry is trying to turn victory into defeat, like he did in Vietnam.

In 1973, No. Vietnam came to us and signed a peace agreement. The anti-war Dems, led by John Kerry, turned victory into defeat in 1975 when they refused to allow US help of So. Vietnam.

Millions of people died as a result, and Kerry has blood on his hands.

27 posted on 02/05/2004 3:05:11 PM PST by narby (Who would Osama vote for???)
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To: unix
The SOTU 2002, from what I gather. I've just to see any of them give the exact quote.
28 posted on 02/05/2004 3:05:46 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Shermy
Kerry is currently unchallenged by his political opposition and is getting a free pass from the press. Half of that will change when W goes into full campaign mode and Kerry will not hold up under the assault.

His war hero status really doesn't matter to the Dems so he can't expect any more consideration for his war hero satus than the Dems gave to Dole.

29 posted on 02/05/2004 3:06:50 PM PST by Natural Law
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To: Shermy
For information, this is what they're hitting us on:

When White House communications director Dan Bartlett was asked before the war whether Saddam Hussein was an imminent threat, he responded, "Of course he is." When White House spokesman Scott McClellan was asked why NATO (and thus the United States) should support Turkey's request for defensive troops, he responded, "This is about an imminent threat." When White House spokesman Ari Fleischer was asked whether the invasion of Iraq was because Iraq was an imminent threat, he responded, "Absolutely."

The president said before the war that Iraq was an "urgent threat" and a "grave threat" to "any American." In his speech informing Americans that the invasion had started, the President said Iraq "threatens the peace with weapons of mass murder."

In this case, the exact way that the response was phrased matters less than what was implied. It seems that Tenent has gotten tired of the CIA being the Media's whipping boy and is trying to spread the blame around.

30 posted on 02/05/2004 3:12:28 PM PST by Zeroisanumber
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To: Shermy
Kerry has some of Slicks propensity for lying. It must be a gene in democrats.
31 posted on 02/05/2004 3:13:49 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: Zeroisanumber
Press spokesmen weren't trained in the art of the wording.

I've never seen so much axe grinding and disinformation about words in different uses.

I think it will pass most voters.
32 posted on 02/05/2004 3:15:13 PM PST by Shermy
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To: Howlin
Here's 2002's and 2003's.

I can't find it anywhere.

From 2003

Some have said we must not act until the threat is imminent. Since when have terrorists and tyrants announced their intentions, politely putting us on notice before they strike? If this threat is permitted to fully and suddenly emerge, all actions, all words, and all recriminations would come too late. Trusting in the sanity and restraint of Saddam Hussein is not a strategy, and it is not an option.

"bout the only thing I could find that would relate...

2002 doesn't even have the word imminent in it, unless my word search is completely busted.

I'd like to know where "they" (media, et al) are getting this from...

33 posted on 02/05/2004 3:18:12 PM PST by Michael Barnes ( <a href="http://www.michaelmoore.com">miserable failure </a>)
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To: Shermy
The Fleischer quote is the most damaging, but I think that the strategy is to force GWB into semantic hair-splitting that makes him look like he has something to hide. For all his merits, GW isn't the man to call on when you need to play think-on-your-feet word games in front of a camera; if Kerry can force him into a corner (say, in the Presidential Debates) then this might really hurt us.
34 posted on 02/05/2004 3:22:49 PM PST by Zeroisanumber
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To: unix
I believe this is the speech when Iraq kicked off..Still can't find the quote.
35 posted on 02/05/2004 3:23:47 PM PST by Michael Barnes ( <a href="http://www.michaelmoore.com">miserable failure </a>)
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To: Shermy
“Today, we found out that [FILL IN THE BLANk] weren’t passing on sound facts ... to the American people - they were playing politics with our national security." -John Kerry one of the Demorats who have for months politicized our national security and foreign policy with rabid attacks against our President and the conduct of the war in Iraq.

POT, KETTLE, BLACK.

36 posted on 02/05/2004 3:37:47 PM PST by WOSG (Support Tancredo on immigration. Support BUSH for President!)
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To: narby
Actually, the cause was lost in early 1973 when the Democrat controlled Congress voted to withdraw funding for the war effort. There are a lot of leftists who have blood on their hands.
37 posted on 02/05/2004 3:47:47 PM PST by Smber (The smallest minority is the individual. Get the government off my back.)
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To: Shermy
They said Iraq posed a ‘mortal threat,’ an ‘urgent threat,’ an ‘immediate threat,’ a ‘serious threat,’ and, yes, an ‘imminent threat’ to the people of the United States.

Poppycock. Bush said Iraq was a "growing threat" and then Democrats wanted to see a smoking gun, Bush countered with "a smoking gun could be a mushroom cloud over a city".

Kerry is grasping for straws.

38 posted on 02/05/2004 3:48:57 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (All Our Base Are Belong To Dubya)
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To: unix
It was the Democrats who said that Iraq was an imminent threat, in a letter to President Clinton in 1998.
39 posted on 02/05/2004 3:51:45 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (All Our Base Are Belong To Dubya)
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To: Diogenesis
When did Tom Daschle dress up as a clown?
40 posted on 02/05/2004 3:53:04 PM PST by CougarGA7 (It's only funny until someone gets hurt....then it's hilarious!)
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To: Shermy
Botox boy, just who is playing politics with national security? Not the present administration. Good heavens if this character goes on like this until November, I just don't know what I'll do. What a jerk.
41 posted on 02/05/2004 4:14:01 PM PST by mom-7
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To: section9
Yes, I agree.

The RATs are delusional. The idea that they are going to gain the WH by being anti-war and pro-UN (read: pro-French) is laughable.

I think about the thousands who came to our support-the troops-rally on the state capitol steps in Des Moines in the run-up to the war, and the 20 or so peace-rioters who chained themselves to the local National Guard camp gates at the same time and got themselves arrested.

That was the 'best' they could muster.

We had Joe Six-pack and practically every one else, while the best they could do was a handful of anarchist teenaged scraggly idiotic criminals.

I realize a national election doesn't play out exactly that way, but the forces I describe are powerful.

This election is about the security of the United States, and no sane person will trust the Democrats with that.
42 posted on 02/05/2004 5:25:27 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: Shermy
"they were playing politics with our national security"

Geeeeez! These democrats never know when to shut up. Kerry just revealed "they were playing politics with our national security". And .. I believe they still are.

Another perfect example of the "projection" technique.
43 posted on 02/05/2004 6:43:39 PM PST by CyberAnt (The Election in 2004 - it's for the SOUL of AMERICA)
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To: ErnBatavia
You don't have to assume .. Tony Snow nuked the "imminent threat" statement. Actually, it was John Rockerfeller who said, "imminent threat", not President Bush.

What President Bush said was, "some have said that we must not wait until the threat is imminent".
44 posted on 02/05/2004 6:49:03 PM PST by CyberAnt (The Election in 2004 - it's for the SOUL of AMERICA)
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To: CyberAnt
Tony Snow nuked the "imminent threat" statement.

I'm going to now hold my breath and wait for Dan Rather, Tom Blokaw and Petah Jennings to do such pointed journalism....maybe not, on second thought - I'd die waiting.

45 posted on 02/05/2004 6:51:49 PM PST by ErnBatavia (Some days you're the windshield; some days you're the bug)
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To: Shermy
Hmmmm? I don't think so. President Bush usually allows people enough rope to hang themselves.
46 posted on 02/05/2004 7:18:35 PM PST by CyberAnt (The Election in 2004 - it's for the SOUL of AMERICA)
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To: not-alone
Brit Hume did a great job. He exposed the NON-story from the AP about Tenant's speech. And Brit emphatically said that President Bush never said, "imminent threat".
47 posted on 02/05/2004 7:21:36 PM PST by CyberAnt (The Election in 2004 - it's for the SOUL of AMERICA)
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To: section9
I agree .. and I especially like the part where Tenant said when he came into the CIA he had to start rebuilding it. Which proves that Kerry's votes to gut the CIA is exactly what happened. And .. then Tenant says it will take about 5 more years before the CIA is at peak capacity.
48 posted on 02/05/2004 7:28:21 PM PST by CyberAnt (The Election in 2004 - it's for the SOUL of AMERICA)
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To: Shermy
I wish someone would ask JFKerry WHO sent "JOE WILSON" of your campaign to Niger to gather intel on "yellowcake"?

Why didn't "JOE WILSON" submit a report to the CIA, but rather sent it to the NYTimes?
49 posted on 02/05/2004 7:36:44 PM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: Zeroisanumber
"this might really hurt us"

OMG I'm shaking in my boots!!! [sarcasm]
50 posted on 02/05/2004 7:46:00 PM PST by CyberAnt (The Election in 2004 - it's for the SOUL of AMERICA)
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