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Amnesty and Betrayal
thenewamerican ^ | Febuary 9, 2004 | Norman Grigg

Posted on 02/05/2004 3:32:34 PM PST by VU4G10

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1 posted on 02/05/2004 3:32:34 PM PST by VU4G10
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To: VU4G10
Bump for later read.
2 posted on 02/05/2004 3:35:20 PM PST by k2blader (Folks who deny the President's proposal is an amnesty are being intellectually dishonest.)
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To: VU4G10
The Birchers chime in. BTW have they proven yet that Eisenhower was a communist.

Oh yeah not a peep about Kerry's proposal which is amnesty. Why the silence on Kerry? Oh that's right the Birchers don't think that the democrats are the real political adversaries, nebermind.

3 posted on 02/05/2004 3:36:46 PM PST by Dane
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To: VU4G10
Why do you post this John Birch Society trash?
4 posted on 02/05/2004 3:37:15 PM PST by bayourod ( Dean's anti-terrorism plan: "treat people with respect and they will treat you with respect"12/1/03)
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To: VU4G10
Index
5 posted on 02/05/2004 3:38:07 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: bayourod
Why do you post this John Birch Society trash?

What specifically did you disagree with?

6 posted on 02/05/2004 3:39:58 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: Joe Hadenuf
What specifically did you disagree with?

I know you didn't ask me, but I disagree with the hyperbole, innuendo, and the silence in the article about the demos political positions on immigration.

7 posted on 02/05/2004 3:43:05 PM PST by Dane
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To: Dane
"Oh yeah not a peep about Kerry's proposal which is amnesty. Why the silence on Kerry?"

Because conservatives expect Kerry to sell out U.S sovereignty, and award law-breaking illegals with Amnsesty.

The GOP's own Dubya? Now that's a surprise. Unless YOU expected Dubya to do so from the get-go?

8 posted on 02/05/2004 3:47:42 PM PST by F16Fighter (John Kerry -- Leading a War of Terror Against All Things Decent and Good in America)
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To: F16Fighter
Because conservatives expect Kerry to sell out U.S sovereignty, and award law-breaking illegals with Amnsesty.

The GOP's own Dubya? Now that's a surprise. Unless YOU expected Dubya to do so from the get-go?

Sorry I am not going to take your Bircher hyperbole bait. Bush with his giving the UN the finger in regards to Iraq has shown that he cares deeply about US sovereignty. He is trying to fix a problem that has been ignored for years and it is not a simple problem to solve with a neighbor the US shares a 2,000 mile border with.

You can go on with your simplistic rants and idolization of the Birchers. I will disagree with them.

9 posted on 02/05/2004 3:58:55 PM PST by Dane
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To: VU4G10
bttt
10 posted on 02/05/2004 4:12:56 PM PST by lainde (Heads up...We're coming and we've got tongue blades!!)
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To: F16Fighter
In the last couple of days, I arrived at an inescapable conclusion.

I am irrelevant. So are my neighbors. Apparently that is what Dubya and most of the rest of the weasels in Washington have decided. We live in what the Border Patrol calls the Naco Corridor.

Here’s a quote from this article:

Naco Station agents took 28,967 into custody for the first four months of the current federal fiscal year, which is a 114 percent increase over the 13,525 apprehended for the same period in the previous budget year.

The apprehension rate is not up because the Naco Station received any reinforcements in personnel or equipment. Apprehensions are up because the number of people jumping the border fence has skyrocketed ever since elected and appointed leaders started mumbling about the scamnesty that ain't an amnesty.

That number -- 28,967 -- doesn't look that frightening, does it? Well, the Border Patrol agents here estimate they only catch one in five. Right now a lot of them think that estimate is optimistic. So, if 28,967 were caught, then 115,868 got away. If that continues, the number of gotaways here in the Naco Corridor alone will hit 347,604 by the end of this fiscal year.

The Naco Corridor only includes 20 miles of the Mexican border. That’s only 1.1% of the border.

Next, you might want to peruse this article. It lays out the details of Dubya's proposed budget for FY 2005 for ICE and BCP. Note that this is mainly for the period after his re-election. There is no mention of any additional funding for controlling our leaky border or for enforcement action against the scumbags who illegally employ illegal aliens, thus enticing them to come here. This is an evil omen.

The nightly invasion through my home will apparently continue unabated regardless of whose fanny is warming the chair in the Oval Office. My neighbors and I will continue to see our property vandalized or stolen, our houses invaded, vehicles stolen, friends and relatives attacked, our surroundings trashed -- but what the hell, it is for the Good of the Party so we shouldn't complain, should we?

As I said, Dubya and the weasels in Washington have decided that the 60,000 Americans who live in the Naco Corridor are irrelevant. We are simply a statistical pimple on the southwest ass end of America. It’s a very small matter if we suffer as long as everyone else gets cheap lettuce and cheap lawn care.

I will vote in November, as will most of my neighbors; there are some local and state candidates who have earned our vote. However, my conscience will not bother me a bit if I leave the top portion blank or write in another candidate. After all, I am irrelevant. My vote may as well be irrelevant, too.

11 posted on 02/05/2004 5:00:30 PM PST by JackelopeBreeder (Proud to be a loco gringo armed vigilante terrorist cucaracha!)
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To: Dane
BTW have they proven yet that Eisenhower was a communist.

BTW have you proven yet that Bush critics are closet Dem supporters?

Of course not. You just rely on innuendo and hyperbole.

12 posted on 02/05/2004 5:23:48 PM PST by inquest (The only problem with partisanship is that it leads to bipartisanship)
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Ping.
13 posted on 02/05/2004 5:25:35 PM PST by Missouri
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To: Missouri
Bump
14 posted on 02/05/2004 5:32:39 PM PST by 4.1O dana super trac pak (Base to President Bush. Hello?)
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To: JackelopeBreeder
Dana Rohracher is on O'Reilly right now talking about the death threats to him over a bill to get doctors to report illegals. He's stepped on somebodies toes. Hopefully, more people will get on their elected officials at any level to start defending our borders from this illegal invasion.
15 posted on 02/05/2004 5:37:34 PM PST by Missouri
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To: Dane
At least the Birchers make some sense here. A lot more than your twaddle.
16 posted on 02/05/2004 5:51:43 PM PST by dennisw
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To: Dane
What specifically did you disagree with?

I know you didn't ask me, but I disagree with the hyperbole, innuendo, and the silence in the article about the demos political positions on immigration.

This is specific? LOL!

17 posted on 02/05/2004 6:52:02 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: Missouri; dennisw
"Fox explained that demolishing the distinction between legal and illegal Mexican immigrants is necessary in order to advance the merger of the U.S. and Mexico: “Eventually our long-range objective is to establish with the United States, but also with Canada, our other regional partner, an ensemble of connections and institutions similar to those created by theEUROPEAN UNION"

Ah, so what shall we be named then, "The American Union"..or perhaps "The Mexican Union"? Maybe pesos will be our new monitary system.

Perhaps they'll make a contest and some good "union" citizen will win a prize to name it.

I cannot believe that there are those here that will defend any of this "it's not an amnesty" crappola. I'll take a bullet for George Bush because he's a lot more important to the endurance of this republic than I'll ever be. But like one of my kids, I'll tell him when he's wrong...and he's wrong on this one.

18 posted on 02/05/2004 6:57:45 PM PST by AuntB (Do away with all entitlements (except the military!))
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I cannot believe that there are those here that will defend any of this "it's not an amnesty" crappola.

There is always someone ready to "defend the indefenceable".

Congress needs to bury this amnesty plan.

19 posted on 02/05/2004 7:24:36 PM PST by Missouri
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To: AuntB
Henry Hyde called this vision "The commonwealth of the Americas" in a speech he gave.
20 posted on 02/05/2004 7:39:02 PM PST by KEVLAR
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