[COEXERJ145]

And this time they really, really, really mean it!

[jolie560]

I think so: Muslims here have been buying lots of chocolates during the past week, readying for another celebration.

[DallasMike]

I can't really get too worked up over something called the "Yemeni Tagamoo Party." Do the Yemeni Tagamoos have a mascot? Do they call themselves the Fighting Tagamoos?

[Revel]

LINK TO THREAD TWO

Thread Two

[flutters]

bookmark bump

[labolarueda]

About correcting "Queda" to "Qaeda"?

Thanks

[Admin Moderator]

You all might want to come up with a name for your thread. You know, there's the canteen, there's the foxhole, etc. You all need a catchy name. We can't keep calling it 'those posters who blew the end of the world as we know it with their countdown thread on 2-2-4' thread. :) That's it for us, over and out, thanks for starting a new thread, it's a hugh help, and please, start a new thread around 5000 posts or so, thanks, AM.

[Calpernia]

In Reference to this post:

This should make everyone who flies feel really secure!!!

February 6, 2004 Report Faults Lax Controls on Screeners at Airports By PHILIP SHENON

WASHINGTON, Feb. 5 — An internal investigation at the Homeland Security Department has found that hiring of tens of thousands of airport screeners after the terror attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, was so haphazard that many screeners were allowed to remain on duty at security checkpoints for weeks or months after it had been determined that they had serious criminal records.

The department's inspector general issued a report on the findings on Thursday. It said screeners remained on the payroll and retained their badges even after the findings that they had been convicted on charges as serious as manslaughter. The department often took weeks or months to discharge the screeners, the report found.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1065689/posts?page=6808#6808

I'm linking to this article:

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/02/04/nyregion/04security.html?ex=1076475600&en=6f04116db636ac43&ei=5062&partner=GOOGLE

Security Firm Charged With Bribing Company Executives By RONALD SMOTHERS

Published: February 4, 2004

NEWARK, Feb. 3 - A Newark-based security company and its top executives have been charged with failing to do required background checks on employees who guarded area airports, utilities, bridges and other places vulnerable to terrorism, and with bribing officials to help them keep their contracts, Attorney General Peter C. Harvey said on Tuesday.

I'm going to SEC after I'm caught up on the OLD thread 2 to see if Haynes is a franchise.

Be back.

[Oorang]

Well if that don't beat all get out. I was about to reply to your post #6833, hit preview, and wham, "this thread is locked". Huh? Figured Daleel, EOM and Co. finally came through (just joking folks).

Anyway, re #6833

Good snips. I should have continued with my thought. I do not believe that Russia is going to attack us in their upcoming exercises. I could be wrong, wouldn't be the first time, but I don't think that is their plan.

As I've said, I do not trust Putin, or his administration or his military officials. I do believe that Russian made weapons and materials of all sorts have been sold to others. I firmly believe that Putin will make promises and shake hands with Pres. Bush, Sec. Powell, Rumsfield, Rice, etc. and turn around and quietly sell whatever he can to the highest bidder with no thought to his "customers" being in the "axis of evil" or not.

In that regard, yes, I believe that Russia will attack us. But, at this time, I do not believe we will be attacked by Russia in an overt manner. Just my opinion. But, lets all keep the info coming. That's what this thread is about. It's an education, for all of us, in more ways than one. And I for one am always open for new info.

[nicmarlo]

maybe I can keep up with thread number 3???? (I doubt it, lol!)....BTW, I'm still here, in CENTRAL New York.... : )

[Calpernia]

I was pinging StillProud to the post: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1065689/posts?page=6816#6816

Not asking you to put her anywhere ^-^

[sissyjane]

1-800-BITE-me!!

I'll believe it when I see it!

I'm OVER the empty threat bu**sh*t.

[JustPiper]

Nothing like being moved again in a middle of a post! I thought we were going to get fair warning?

[Calpernia]

I think we have a much cosier relation with India than Pakistan. It seems like we have had a cautiously friendly relationship with Pakistan. But this may only be a matter of expediency in relation to the Afghan offensive as well as the fact they have been a known nuclear power for some time. With these new developments, I don't understand how we can have anything close to a neutral/friendly relationship with Pakistan. It truly appears they have sold us down the river.

6,821 posted on 02/05/2004 11:34:44 PM EST by rickylc

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I hope this is true. This is what I felt too. But now that I sit and think, I've never seen India mentioned in any coalition reports. Hopefully, they will babysit Pakistan for us.

Anyone else have any input on the India Pakistan relationship?

[JustPiper]

Al Queda again threatens America (Thread 3)

Al Queda? argh ;)

[Calpernia]

Good Carry Over

To: Oorang
>>>I also feel that the brewing's in South America are more of a concern, given a few years.

Holy moly. Anyone ever do a South America search here at FR? http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/keyword/south%20america

I even found an article about an Egyptian Sailor dying of Anthrax in Brazil!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/901851/posts

6,823 posted on 02/05/2004 11:35:31 PM EST by Calpernia (http://members.cox.net/classicweb/Heroes/heroes.htm)

[Calpernia]

Another carry over:

To: Oorang
>>>I am not ready to assume that Russia is ready or willing to attack the USA


>>>>(snip)
the United States most likely will face ICBM threats from Russia, China, and North Korea, probably from Iran, and possibly from Iraq. The Russian threat, although significantly reduced, will continue to be the most robust and lethal, considerably more than China's, and orders of magnitude more than that potentially posed by the others, whose missiles are likely to be fewer in number, constrained to smaller payloads, and less reliable and accurate.

The new missile threats are far different from the Cold War threat, which involved accurate, survivable, and reliable missiles deployed in large numbers. By contrast, the new missile threats involve significantly less capable forces. Even so, they are threatening, but in different ways.
(snip)
>>>
http://www.iraqwatch.org/government/us/cia/cia-walpole-nie.html
>>>>

(snip)

Russian entities last year continued to supply a variety of ballistic missile-related goods and technical know-how to countries such as Iran, India, China, and Libya. Indeed, the transfer of ballistic missile technology from Russia to Iran was substantial last year, and in our judgment will continue to accelerate Iranian efforts to develop new missiles and to become self-sufficient in production.


Russia also remained a key supplier for a variety of civilian Iranian nuclear programs, which could be used to advance its weapons programs as well.


Russian entities are a significant source of dual-use biotechnology, chemicals, production technology, and equipment for Iran. Russian biological and chemical expertise is sought by Iranians and others seeking information and training on BW and CW-agent production processes.
(snip)

http://www.iraqwatch.org/government/us/cia/tenet-test-2-7-01.htm

(snip)
>>>>>
Center for Security Policy
DECISION BRIEF No. 00-D 90

20 November 2000

Over the weekend, the Iraqi News Agency trumpeted the arrival in Baghdad of the latest planeload of foreign visitors to breach what little remains of the Clinton-Gore Administration's effort to contain Saddam Hussein. According to the state-controlled press, a Russian-built passenger plane brought "around 100 prominent Bulgarians, including members of parliament, former ministers, businessmen, doctors and university professors." The question is: Was there something or someone else whose presence aboard went unmentioned by Saddam's wire service?

Unfortunately, Bulgaria joins a growing list of nations -- including the likes of Russia, Libya and Syria -- to take advantage of the United States' understandable reluctance to enforce the no-fly zone against unarmed passenger flights. No one in the West knows for sure exactly what coming into (and, for that matter, out of) Iraq via these flights but, given many of the regimes in question, it strains credulity that there is nothing untoward going on.

This is especially true in light of the fact that it is obvious to Saddam Hussein, and virtually everybody else, that the Americans' will to resist his comeback is falling apart. Less well appreciated in the West, at least, is how dangerous the latest erosion -- to say nothing of the complete collapse of the containment strategy that it portends -- may prove to be.

(snip)
http://www.iraqwatch.org/perspectives/cfsp-00-d-90.htm

6,833 posted on 02/05/2004 11:45:23 PM EST by Calpernia (http://members.cox.net/classicweb/Heroes/heroes.htm)
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To: Revel; JustPiper
JP tried to get the thread name updated many times.

Just ensure, if a thread 3 is started that everyone is able to migrate.

6,834 posted on 02/05/2004 11:46:44 PM EST by Calpernia (http://members.cox.net/classicweb/Heroes/heroes.htm)

[Calpernia]

Another good carry over:

To: Myrddin
WOW! Take a look in here on the documentation!

http://www.iraqwatch.org/search/search.asp?qu=pakistan&sc=all&sm=exact

I never did a search here for Pakistan before.

Pardon me while I go get sick.

6,836 posted on 02/05/2004 11:49:30 PM EST by Calpernia (http://members.cox.net/classicweb/Heroes/heroes.htm)

[timydnuc]

I have read these threads for I don't know how long. Come and get me or stand down.

Our enemies wipe their a$$es with their hands, they can't make change, and they are mental morons. They can't come out and fight, they don't have the guts. They are cowards that kill innocent people to aggrandize a religion that oppresses people and enslaves them. The 'so called' heroes of Islam are the cowards of human kind. They crawl on the earth and kill the lambs of God.

You come and get me, you idiots, you come right here and get me! You bring your AKs and I'll just stand here with my arsenal. We'll see who walks away. You come after me, you camel jumping son of a bitch! I'm waiting with a smile!

[ex-Texan]

"They Really, Really Mean It" Of Course they do, really!

Read reports about al Qaeda's suit case nukes, chemical and bio-weapons HERE and pray the U.S. and British Inel serices are wrong. I believe they are not wrong. Feel free to fame away . . .

[Calpernia]

THANK YOU for starting a new thread. Next time, please provide all with Dramamin!

[Indie]

Interesting Read on Danger of Dirty Weapon ~2002.

[nwctwx]

al Queda?! After following this for as many weeks as you have, you should know not to put a U after the Q! ;-)

[Squantos]

I have a rather novel solution to this threat..............kill em first !

[Tolerance Sucks Rocks]

Just al-Damn!

[thecabal]

Ah, I see we have been tagged with "brokenrecord" and "chickenlittle" keyword tags. Thanks people!

[judicial meanz]

Bookmark

[thecabal]

Olympic WMD drill starts

Fri 6 February, 2004 11:44

ATHENS (Reuters) - Athens has begun a three-day Olympics security drill focusing on nuclear, biological and chemical threats to the Greek capital during the Games.

More than 1,100 police, coast guards and military and medical personnel are taking part in operation "Blue Odyssey", described by Greek newspapers as the biggest of its kind staged in Europe.

Rescue and protection scenarios in case of an unconventional attack during the August 13-29 Games stretched 40 km (25 miles) along Athens' southern coastline, from the port of Piraeus to the seaside suburb of Anavissos.

"There could be as many as 100 points where the exercise is taking place simultaneously," police chief Fotis Nasiakos said on Friday. "There is not just one specific location."

The drill is one of dozens planned during the six months leading up to the Games and is so far the largest test of security against a threat from weapons of mass destruction.

Greece has set up a seven-nation Olympic security group of Britain, the United States, Israel, France, Germany, Spain and Australia to help it guard the Games.

Authorities have kept the drill scenario secret and have ordered media to stay away, but officials said it was taking place on land and at sea.

The Olympics organisers are budgeting an unprecedented 650 million euros (355 million pounds) for security measures.

After the U.S.-led war on Iraq and twin bombings in neighbouring Turkey last year, organisers have further beefed up their plan with extra security staff and equipment.

Public Order Minister George Floridis told Reuters on Thursday Greece would get from Russia several mobile laboratories capable of testing for nuclear, chemical and biological agents ahead of the Games.

[Texas Lizard]

I am getting so sick of this post every time I look at FR.
I guess I'm just not hip enough to get the joke.
WHY ARE WE WASTING BAND WIDTH FOR THIS EVERYDAY ?

[expatguy]

Im wondering should I paint the guest room or not?

[LayoutGuru2]

Load of links courtesy of our good buddies at Khayma.com...

http://www.khayma.com/wahaat/new.htm
http://www.khayma.com/wahaat/aslami%20__gg.htm
http://www.khayma.com/wahaat/gmat.htm
http://www.khayma.com/wahaat/ghd.htm
http://www.khayma.com/wahaat/adian.htm
http://www.khayma.com/wahaat/dros.htm
http://www.khayma.com/wahaat/katb.htm
http://www.khayma.com/wahaat/gran.htm

[CJ Wolf]

New thread, oh boy.

[Indie]

BTW. We were right. All of those ricin scares dropped off the media radar FAST and were buried.. Any others come back positive besides the Senate Office Building?

[JustPiper]

Russians fired up over AK-47 copy
UPI ^ | 2-6-04
Posted on 02/06/2004 8:26:25 PM CST by Indy Pendance

NEW DELHI, Feb. 6 (UPI) -- India's state weapons maker apparently designed and built a knock off of a popular Russian firearm -- and then tried to sell it back to the Russians.

It didn't work.

The AK-47 or Kalashnikov automatic rifle is the preferred weapon of non-western infantries and guerrillas the world over and is licensed by various arms makers, the BBC reported Friday.

Representatives from Russia's Izhmash, the gun's original manufacturer, discovered what they saw as an Indian rip-off of their AK-47 at an arms fair in New Delhi.

Furious, they demanded proof of a license.

But India's Ordnance Factory Board responded that the weapon is different enough to count as a distinct design.

The new weapon has yet to appear on OFB's website, which advertises products ranging from pistols to battle tanks.

Russian companies spent two years disputing who owned rights to the AK-47 before Izhmash finally won sole control in 2002.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1073151/posts

[JustPiper]

CNN

Exodus of Dominicans forces extra U.S. deployments
02/06/04

Slicing through whitecapped swells between the Dominican Republic and Puerto Rico, a U.S. Coast Guard cutter patrolled Friday for Dominican migrants trying to reach U.S. shores.

[JustPiper]

Regional Terrorist Groups Pose Growing Threat, Experts Warn
By RAYMOND BONNER and DON VAN NATTA Jr.

Published: February 8, 2004

AKARTA, Indonesia, Feb. 7 — The landscape of the terrorist threat has shifted, many intelligence officials around the world say, with more than a dozen regional militant Islamic groups showing signs of growing strength and broader ambitions, even as the operational power of Al Qaeda appears diminished.

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/02/08/international/asia/08TERR.html?hp

[JustPiper]

(Border Patrol) Agent Saves a Life, Only to Lose His On Mexico Border
Washington Post ^ | Feb. 8, 2004 | Kevin Sullivan
Posted on 02/07/2004 11:00:53 PM CST by FairOpinion

Witnesses recalled that Fan (19, an illegal immigrant from China, was in the river trying to sneak into the United States with four Chinese companions and two Mexican smugglers) was drowning in the fast-rushing waters and screaming for help when U.S. Border Patrol Agent James Epling waded into the deep river and carried her to safety. Epling then turned to go catch the others... Divers found Epling's body three days later, drowned at the bottom of the river.

Border Patrol officials said their officers catch an average of 2,500 people a day -- more than 100 an hour -- who, despite sharply increased security since the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks, continue to try to sneak across the U.S.-Mexico border. The Border Patrol, a division of the Department of Homeland Security, has 9,800 agents stationed along the border, up from 3,600 a decade ago. That includes 1,300 agents hired since 2000, reflecting a new emphasis on tracking border crossings.


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1073740/posts

[JustPiper]

(Border Patrol) Agent Saves a Life, Only to Lose His On Mexico Border
Washington Post ^ | Feb. 8, 2004 | Kevin Sullivan
Posted on 02/07/2004 11:00:53 PM CST by FairOpinion

Witnesses recalled that Fan (19, an illegal immigrant from China, was in the river trying to sneak into the United States with four Chinese companions and two Mexican smugglers) was drowning in the fast-rushing waters and screaming for help when U.S. Border Patrol Agent James Epling waded into the deep river and carried her to safety. Epling then turned to go catch the others... Divers found Epling's body three days later, drowned at the bottom of the river.

Border Patrol officials said their officers catch an average of 2,500 people a day -- more than 100 an hour -- who, despite sharply increased security since the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks, continue to try to sneak across the U.S.-Mexico border. The Border Patrol, a division of the Department of Homeland Security, has 9,800 agents stationed along the border, up from 3,600 a decade ago. That includes 1,300 agents hired since 2000, reflecting a new emphasis on tracking border crossings.


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1073740/posts

[JustPiper]

U.S. Says Files Seek Qaeda Aid in Iraq Conflict - By DEXTER FILKINS
Published: February 9, 2004
BAGHDAD, Iraq, Feb. 8 — American officials here have obtained a detailed proposal that they conclude was written by an operative in Iraq to senior leaders of Al Qaeda, asking for help to wage a "sectarian war" in Iraq in the next months.

The Americans say they believe that Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, a Jordanian who has long been under scrutiny by the United States for suspected ties to Al Qaeda, wrote the undated 17-page document. Mr. Zarqawi is believed to be operating here in Iraq

[JustPiper]

CLIMATE COLLAPSE
The Pentagon's Weather Nightmare
The climate could change radically, and fast. That would be the mother of all national security issues.
By David Stipp

Global warming may be bad news for future generations, but let's face it, most of us spend as little time worrying about it as we did about al Qaeda before 9/11. Like the terrorists, though, the seemingly remote climate risk may hit home sooner and harder than we ever imagined. In fact, the prospect has become so real that the Pentagon's strategic planners are grappling with it.

http://www.fortune.com/fortune/technology/articles/0,15114,582584-1,00.html

[JustPiper]

N. Korea food shortage worsens
Monday, February 9, 2004 Posted: 3:54 AM EST (0854 GMT)
Thousands of North Korean children are suffering from food shortages.

(CNN) -- More than 6.4 million already undernourished North Koreans face even more drastic food shortages in the next few months, the U.N. food agency warns.

http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/asiapcf/02/09/north.korea.food/index.html

[JustPiper]

[JustPiper]

Rebel uprising spreads to 11 towns in Haiti; toll rises to at least 40 killed
sfgate.com ^ | Monday, February 9, 2004 | IAN JAMES
Posted on 02/09/2004 11:43:11 PM CST by Destro
Rebel uprising spreads to 11 towns in Haiti; toll rises to at least 40 killed
IAN JAMES, Associated Press Writer
Monday, February 9, 2004

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1074923/posts

[JustPiper]

Islamic extremists invade U.S., join sleeper cells
Washington Times ^ | 2/10/04 | Jerry Seper
Posted on 02/09/2004 11:34:29 PM CST by kattracks

Islamic radicals are being trained at terrorist camps in Pakistan and Kashmir as part of a conspiracy to send hundreds of operatives to "sleeper cells" in the United States, according to U.S. and foreign officials.

The intelligence and law-enforcement officials say dozens of Islamic extremists have already been routed through Europe to Muslim communities in the United States, based on secret intelligence data and information from terrorists and others detained by U.S. authorities.

A high-ranking foreign intelligence chief told The Washington Times in an interview last week that this clandestine but aggressive network of training camps "represents a serious threat to the United States, one that cannot be ignored." The official said as many as 400 terrorists have been and are being trained at camps in Pakistan and Kashmir.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1074917/posts

[JustPiper]

Number 48 on the Iraqi Deck of cards has surrendered to US Forces(Saturday)
Fox News
Posted on 02/09/2004 3:42:48 PM CST by Dog

Fox News just did an alert on the surrender of NUMBER 48 on the Iraqi Most Wanted List. He had a $1 million reward on his head.

I did a quick scan of FL Engineer's list and it is Muhsin Khadr al-Khadjai BP Chmn& Cmdr BP Milita Qadasiyah district.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1074679/posts

[JustPiper]

Iranian airliner crashes in UAE
At least 35 killed; a few survivors reported
The Associated Press
Updated: 5:30 a.m. ET Feb. 10, 2004SHARJAH, United Arab Emirates -

An Iranian airliner carrying passengers crashed Tuesday on arriving at Sharjah airport in the United Arab Emirates, killing at least 35 people according to a Civil Aviation official. There were believed to be at least a few survivors.

Local television reports showed flaming, smoking wreckage and rescue helicopters landing near the scene. A row of bodies covered in red blankets was visible in the footage, and frantic-looking rescue workers in white robes were seen pushing at the plane's debris, searching for survivors.

The number of people aboard wasn't clear, with mixed reports from officials and local television of 50 or 40 people, including one child. A Civil Aviation official, who spoke to reporters on condition of anonymity, said 35 people were confirmed dead. Sharjah television said there was initial word of survivors.

Civil aviation and television backed off initial reports the plane crashed on takeoff and said it was returning to Sharjah for the Iranian island of Kish in the Gulf when it went down.

The civil aviation official said the plane crashed near a populated area in the emirate; Sharjah television reported that the plane had crashed in an uninhabited area.

Mehdi Mehranpour, deputy managing director of Iran's national carrier, Iran Air, confirmed that the plane belonged to Kish Air, a separate Iranian company. Kish Air officials could not immediately be reached.

Speaking to The Associated Press in the Iranian capital of Tehran, Mehranpour said the airliner was a Fokker 50, which can carry about 60 people, and that it had crashed in a populated area near Sharjah airport. In the television footage, flames were visible from the front of the plane, which appeared not to be intact. The plane's tail section could be seen and no fire were seen in that area on the television footage. Other indiscernible debris could be seen smoking on the ground.

Kish Airline has a fleet of four medium range TU-154M jets, a Russian aircraft, on domestic and international flights and four short-range Fokker-50s, German turboprops, according to the company's Web site.

History of air accidents
Iran has a history of air accidents, often blamed on badly maintained planes. In June, an Iranian military C-130 transport plane crashed outside Tehran, killing all seven people on board. In February, a Russian-made Ilyushin-76 crashed in southeastern Iran, killing all 275 aboard.

In Belarus in September, a Tupolev-154 belonging to Kish Air on a Tehran-Minsk-Copenhagen went off course while making its landing approach at the Minsk-2 airport, striking trees which caused serious damage to the plane's wings. None of the 40 people aboard were hurt.

In 1995, an Iranian flight attendant hijacked a Kish Air Boeing 707 to Israel during a flight from Tehran. The plane was returned to Tehran with 174 passengers and crew.

Last month, a top Iranian aviation official asked the United States to lift sanctions on its airline industry as a humanitarian gesture so the country can buy spare parts for its airplanes.

Tehran has blamed many of its air crashes on U.S. sanctions, saying they have prevented the country from repairing and replacing an aging fleet that includes many Russian-made Tupolov planes. Iran has complained of trouble buying European-made planes as well because some Airbus parts are American-made.

[JustPiper]

BOMB EXPLODES IN INDIAN CAPITAL (more follows..developing)
sky news ^
Posted on 02/11/2004 8:24:15 AM CST by gdyniawitawa

BOMB EXPLODES IN INDIAN CAPITAL

A bomb has exploded near an engineering college in the Indian capital of New Dehli, according to Reuters.

Local TV news channels said the blast appeared to come from a bus near the Indian Institute of Technology in south Delhi


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1075900/posts

[JustPiper]

AIRS: 9-10 p.m. ET Monday-Friday

The WMD debate

Wednesday, February 11

Are there weapons of mass destruction in Iraq? National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice discusses the question everyone is asking. One of President Bush's closest advisers joins Larry to talk about why the United States went to war in Iraq. Tune in tonight at 9 p.m. ET.

[JamesA]

My God is better and more powerful than your God so I am obliged to kill you. Eventually its going to come down to Islam vs. Christians....be prepaired

[Imperialist]

Interesting thread about China and Nukes:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1078415/posts