Selling Homosexuality to America

Regent University Law Review ^ | Spring 2002 | Paul E. Rondeau

[Maria S]

Try "google"...SSRI's are pretty beneficial in searching, aren't they?

Sorry...I ain't falling into the "mental illness is the same as cancer" trap/crap.

For anyone who REALLY wants to see just a few of the absolutely ridiculous "illnesses" that are listed (and considered billable) in the DSM, make the effort to google and read about this huge sham called "medicine". Incredible the huge amounts of money spent billing insurance companies for nonsense...and the enormous amount of psychiatric drugs being pumped into people! Gives me the creeps just to think about it!

[little jeremiah]

AIDS is a pathology. It's an illness. It has nothing to do with sexual preference, however.

Obviously if a person is attracted to members of his/her own sex (has Same Sex Attraction Disorder) but does not act out such desires, then that person will no more likely to get AIDS than anyone else.

However, and if you are really a nurse you know this, if a person engages in anal sex, especially with a large number of partners, or oral sex ditto, especially men with men, then the odds of his getting AIDS skyrocket.

Again, why are you pretending to be dense? What is your objective in posting to this thread? And lastly, do you consider homosexual behavior to be benign or beneficial, or dangerous and unhealthy?

My questions are not rhetorical.

[hotpotato]

Look, I've got issues with Gay Marriage and such, but any piece that apparently advocates for homosexuality to have remained in the DSM is a bit much for me.

The same efforts are being made with regard to crossdressing, transvestitism, transsexualism. What's your take on that?

[hotpotato]

Homosexuality is a fetish. We do not give other fetishes special rights no matter how much psychologists say the person is "adjusted" to living with the fetish.

You may not but effort is underway already to make the same changes with regard to diagnosis regarding other fetishes.

[little jeremiah]

I do believe there's a troll about to be outed.

Answer my questions while you still can, I'm waiting.

P.S. You are being very rude to freepers, I guess you mother didn't teach you to be polite to your elders.

[little jeremiah]

You answer my questions first, then I'll answer yours. That's the way adults converse here.

[little jeremiah]

You have not answered my questions about your viewpoint on homosexuality. Since this is a thread about homosexuality, and I asked you questions first, I am wondering why you are not answering. Here are my questions, again:

What is your objective in posting to this thread?

And lastly, do you consider homosexual behavior to be benign or beneficial, or dangerous and unhealthy?

My questions are not rhetorical.

[hotpotato]

Don't mind little jerry. You only need to check his postings and evaluate for yourself. You haven't been rude. Your problem is you aren't agreeing with him. You might want to consider ignoring it.

[little jeremiah]

I am making no false accusations, and you are being rude to others on this thread.

As far as junk science, there is a veritable wealth of information on FR about the ill effects of homosexual behavior, the environmental causes of same, and the fact that many homosexuals have quit their life of same sex attraction and behavior.

Since you are obviously supporting homosexuality (so far), it is up to you to quote and cite your references.

If you last that long.

[Texas_Jarhead]

"When you use less than honest means to get your point across, it seems to me that we ought to worry about what this piece is selling as well."

I agree, but as psychology/psychiatry is neither my profession nor my forte I would appreciate it if you would illuminate for me the dishonest portions of the article. Since you have not read the entire article I will summarize the actual assertions made regarding the APA and the DSM which can be found on pages 18-20. From my reading the assertions are as follows:

• The APA leadership was co-opted and through political maneuvering a resolution was put forth.  Of the 30,000 APA members only a third responded to the resolution and the DSM change was adopted. Concurrently, the author asserts that the NGTF (National Gay Task Force) paid for a mass mailing urging a "yes" vote on the subject to all members.

• The author asserts that the APA’s Council on Research and Development did not “actually investigate the issue thoroughly before it gave formal approval for deletion of homosexuality from the DSM”.

• The author further asserts that the Committee on Nomenclature “never formally approved the change”.

• Finally, the author states that four years after the vote a survey by the journal Medical Aspects of Human Sexuality found that 69% of “psychiatrists disagreed with the vote and still considered homosexuality a pathological adaptation.

[little jeremiah]

Thanks - I am very intolerant of people who support, under cover of neutrality, behvaior which is based upon personality disorder, and causes sickness, suffering, and often, early death.

[quidnunc]

SerotoninBlocker wrote: I have made my reason for posting to this thread more than clear. I do not fall for junk science, and that is what this piece and every other piece offered to back it up on this thread is.

This isn't junk science — or any kind of science when it comes down to it.

It's a dissertation in a law journal laying out the particulars of the homosexual community's strategy to mainstream their lifestyle.

[breakem]

You will lose IQ points if you stay on this thread. Some of these folks wouldn't admit an error if they spelled their names wrong. Good luck!

[Antoninus]

I am a Pediatric Nurse Practitioner and a Psychiatric Mental Health Nurse Practitioner.

That's nice, but it doesn't qualify you to decide what should or should not go in the DSM. Homosexuality was removed in the mid-1970s for purely political reasons and even one of the proponents for removing it (Dr. Spitzer?) now admits that the condition can be "treated." If it's not a pathology, why would you want to treat it?