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Sheriff has volunteers shadowing school buses after attack heightens safety concerns in rural areas
Sierra Vista Herald/Review ^ | 8 February 2004 | Dianne Saunders

Posted on 02/07/2004 9:01:56 PM PST by Spiff

Sheriff has volunteers shadowing school buses after attack heightens safety concerns in rural areas

BY DIANE SAUNDERS
HERALD/REVIEW

COCHISE COUNTY - The Cochise County Sheriff's Department is taking steps to ensure the safety of schoolchildren who wait along roadways for their buses each morning.

County Sheriff Larry Dever said members of the Sheriff's Assist Team, a group of volunteers, have begun shadowing school buses in Palominas and Sierra Vista school districts.

The main purpose is to add another layer of protection to children from potentially dangerous illegal immigrants, Dever said.

"We're trying to identify the places that are most vulnerable," Dever said. When the vulnerable areas are identified, Dever hopes to enlist the help of parents and other residents in supervising the protection of the children.

Last week, SAT members began driving marked police cars behind school buses as they travel county roads outside city limits. Dever said the entire San Pedro corridor, which includes Palominas, Hereford and rural Sierra Vista, is experiencing a high volume of illegal immigrant traffic. Groups of illegals also are known to travel through the Tombstone and St. David areas. The sheriff said other problem areas include McNeal, Elfrida and Double Adobe.

While many of the illegals pose little or no threat to residents, including children, there are some who cross the Mexico border who are dangerous and a threat to unattended children, Dever said.

There have been several situations where illegal immigrants have threatened or assaulted county residents. Dever does not want to risk more of those incidents occurring.

Most recently, a Hereford woman and her daughter were allegedly accosted by three illegal Mexican immigrants The three men allegedly pulled the woman and her daughter from their vehicle, then stole it.

There have been other incidents. There was a carjacking at Valley View School in Palominas a few months ago. In a separate incident, a car was stolen from an elderly couple in Parker Canyon, Dever said.

There also have been numerous reports of groups of illegal immigrants passing near children as they waited for their school buses. "The potential for conflict and tragedy is significant. Everybody in the community is concerned," Dever said.

As SAT follows school buses and tracks the most vulnerable areas of the county, school officials are taking steps of their own. "We have been very proactive with our buses, with our kids, with our staff, with our parents," said Kathy Moore, superintendent of Palominas school district.

The district, which has three elementary schools, includes the geographical areas of Hereford and Palominas - an area where groups of illegals cross the international border to make their way to destinations in Arizona and other areas of the United States.

Until about five years ago, children living on narrow dirt roads were required to walk to the main roads to catch their school buses, Moore said. That practice changed as the influx of illegals increased. Now, bus drivers brave less than ideal roads that add to the wear and tear on the buses.

The superintendent said district officials had to decide between the safety of children and potential damage to buses.

"When you weigh the two, the kids win," Moore said.

Some areas of the Palominas school district have "very treacherous roadways" that present a danger to the bus driver and the children on the bus, she added.

"There are still places in our district that we cannot go," Moore said.

In those instances, parents bring their children to safe areas to meet their bus every morning.

Moore also said each bus is equipped with a radio. If the bus driver sees anything unusual or potentially threatening, he or she radios the school district transportation office, which then notifies the U.S. Border Patrol.

"Our drivers watch everything. Our drivers are astute and pay attention to everything," Moore said. The number of parents who wait with their children at bus stops is increasing, she added.

"Our drivers will not drop off a kindergarten child unless there is a parent or guardian waiting at the stop or an older sibling is riding (the bus) with the child," Moore said.

In addition, students are encouraged to tell bus drivers or teachers about suspicious people in their neighborhood. Moore said there have been situations of an unfamiliar car parked near the bus stop. When that has happened, the bus driver does not let the child off. Instead, the driver takes the student back to school and calls the parents.

Sue Golden, a mother and the district's transportation director, described the situation in Palominas and Hereford in one word.

"Scary. That's the only word I can use to describe it," she said.

She lauded the efforts of the Border Patrol and the SAT volunteers. "It was great, it was wonderful," she said of the SAT presence behind the school buses.

Precautions also are taken for children who ride school buses in Sierra Vista, said Sue Durbin, transportation supervisor for Sierra Vista public schools.

All of Sierra Vista's school buses are equipped with radios, and drivers are instructed to call in if they see a suspicious car or person.

And children who live in rural areas are not dropped off unless a parent is waiting at the bus stop. Like Palominas, more parents are accompanying their children to the bus stops in the morning, Durbin said. Fortunately, there have been no problems so far this school year.

Durbin also said SAT members have been provided with maps of the school district's rural bus routes.

There have been no problems in the Tombstone school district, Superintendent John Hebnes said.

"I haven't heard anything at all this year," he said.

While district officials have not formally instructed bus drivers about precautions since the carjacking in Palominas, "We will start working with the bus drivers to make sure they are aware," Hebnes added.

REPORTER Diane Saunders can be reached at 515-4611 or by e-mail at diane.saunders@svherald.com.


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1 posted on 02/07/2004 9:01:57 PM PST by Spiff
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To: HiJinx; JackelopeBreeder; AZBear; AZHSer; SandRat; idratherbepainting
ping
2 posted on 02/07/2004 9:03:27 PM PST by Spiff (Have you committed a random act of thoughtcrime today?)
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To: Spiff
:sigh: I'd love to think that the government cares but deep down inside I don't think they do.
3 posted on 02/07/2004 9:06:04 PM PST by cyborg
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To: Spiff
Arm yourselves, shoot first, ask questions later.
4 posted on 02/07/2004 9:06:04 PM PST by SAMWolf (I'd kill for a Nobel Peace Prize.)
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To: Spiff
The sheriff's department should send the bill to the white house.
5 posted on 02/07/2004 9:11:09 PM PST by hedgetrimmer
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To: Spiff
Are these the Mexicans "who only come here to work"? Are these the "family-oriented people who only want a better life"? They sound like criminals to me.

Is this part of the group that will be granted "guestworker status" by our misguided President? Sometimes "diversity" ain't wonderful.

6 posted on 02/07/2004 9:11:58 PM PST by janetgreen (WANTED: A President Who Will Protect Our Borders From Invasion)
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To: Spiff
Another idea.

Invite some of our good soldiers back from Iraq who helped to secure the border with Syria to hold some workshops on how its done.

Maybe they will have some good ideas that can be adopted for use in this country.
7 posted on 02/07/2004 9:14:23 PM PST by hedgetrimmer
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To: janetgreen
Just wait for the story I'm going to post next to get your blood really boiling.
8 posted on 02/07/2004 9:17:35 PM PST by Spiff (Have you committed a random act of thoughtcrime today?)
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To: Spiff
My blood's already boiling - I may have to call the ambulance if it gets any worse... (but don't forget to ping me)
10 posted on 02/07/2004 9:24:12 PM PST by janetgreen (WANTED: A President Who Will Protect Our Borders From Invasion)
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To: idratherbepainting
You're such a newbie...

Ping means, hey come here and read this thread. I think it will be of interest to you.

Its a way to call your attention to a thread as it shows up in your "New Posts To You" list.

Hey, and I posted all of this from my PocketPC tonight.
12 posted on 02/07/2004 9:30:34 PM PST by Spiff (Have you committed a random act of thoughtcrime today?)
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To: Spiff
police can't be all places at all times. the general population can.

the sheriff in Sarasota did a nice job of crying on the camera, but they did a despicable job of preventing this little girl's murder.

they did a great job of B grade detective work (they had a video and rap sheet to work with), but they questioned him the very night the victim was taken and let him go as he emerged from the woods by the highway.

the moral is this: if you want to subcontract the protection of society out to a third party, you must a) sign over your liberty and dignity and b) expect them to fail, ultimately, as no one can do a job quite like a principal/stakeholder can.

It would be simpler if good people were carrying arms. Then predators would know they have something to fear besides a beaurocrat with a PC.

13 posted on 02/07/2004 9:31:19 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (do not remove this tag under penalty of law.)
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To: Spiff; Travis McGee; AAABEST; chookter
I used to work the Titan sites up near Benson and surrounding area of Tucson. And would stop for meals and fuel down at Tombstone and the area was great to go wheeling during my off time. Seems I remember a whole lot of abandoned mine shafts around there. Seems like a good way to fill em up.........

Stay Safe !

14 posted on 02/07/2004 9:33:41 PM PST by Squantos (Salmon...the other pink meat !)
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To: janetgreen
Well, call 911 before you read this.
15 posted on 02/07/2004 9:33:58 PM PST by Spiff (Have you committed a random act of thoughtcrime today?)
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To: Spiff
I remember having armed Humvees escort our school buses in Berlin, I sure did not think that would be needed back home.
16 posted on 02/07/2004 10:03:01 PM PST by Yasotay
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To: Spiff
>>>"While many of the illegals pose little or no threat to residents, including children."

Great reporting bump - no bias here.

We need immigration enforcement now.

Hoppy
17 posted on 02/07/2004 10:10:33 PM PST by Hop A Long Cassidy
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To: idratherbepainting
So when is your birthday?
18 posted on 02/07/2004 10:13:17 PM PST by JackelopeBreeder (Proud to be a loco gringo armed vigilante terrorist cucaracha!)
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To: Spiff
Just wait for the story I'm going to post next to get your blood really boiling.

Hi Spiff, please add me to your ping list if you are maintaining one...

thanks,

Jim

20 posted on 02/07/2004 10:19:55 PM PST by in the Arena (1st Lt. James W. Herrick, Jr., - MIA - Laos - 27 October 69 "Fire Fly 33")
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To: Spiff
Please ping me when you post.
21 posted on 02/07/2004 10:27:58 PM PST by jpsb (Nominated 1994 "Worst writer on the net")
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To: idratherbepainting
Okay, one .45 six-shooter coming up. Bird's head grip sheriff's model and 50 rounds of soft lead. Makes a hole like a cannon at 10 yards; makes most internal organs resemble the inside of a burrito. Send your phone number to jackelopebreeder@hotmail.com. Tell EK I ain't flirting.
22 posted on 02/07/2004 10:34:02 PM PST by JackelopeBreeder (Proud to be a loco gringo armed vigilante terrorist cucaracha!)
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To: idratherbepainting
You're on your own for the holster...
23 posted on 02/07/2004 10:35:42 PM PST by JackelopeBreeder (Proud to be a loco gringo armed vigilante terrorist cucaracha!)
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To: JustPiper
Ping
24 posted on 02/07/2004 10:45:01 PM PST by thecabal
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To: Spiff; majhenrywest; FITZ; Sabertooth; Marine Inspector; JackelopeBreeder; SandRat
If the federal government continues to be derelict in its duty to enforce federal law at the border, leaving American citizens at the mercy of criminal invaders, then the federal government should not be surprised if the locals resort to drastic measures to defend themselves.
26 posted on 02/07/2004 11:02:46 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Spiff
Families under siege.
27 posted on 02/07/2004 11:16:45 PM PST by WaterDragon (GWB is The MAN!)
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To: idratherbepainting
E-mail received.
28 posted on 02/07/2004 11:22:36 PM PST by JackelopeBreeder (Proud to be a loco gringo armed vigilante terrorist cucaracha!)
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To: Spiff
Our friend idratherbepainting gets her .45 tomorrow.
29 posted on 02/07/2004 11:45:22 PM PST by JackelopeBreeder (Proud to be a loco gringo armed vigilante terrorist cucaracha!)
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To: Spiff
What a nightmare!

Shall we list the positions and names of everyone responsible for this situation so we can dispense "justice" or would it take too much space? This is outright treason.

30 posted on 02/08/2004 12:36:23 AM PST by Indie (Hello boys! I'm baaaack!)
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To: Indie
Treason is in season.


31 posted on 02/08/2004 12:53:10 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: thecabal
Bump thank you for the ping!
32 posted on 02/08/2004 2:46:32 AM PST by JustPiper (D A M N I T O L Take 2 and the rest of the world can go to hell for up to 8 full hours)
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To: idratherbepainting
Exactly. We are being invaded by a foreign country. If we were France and this were 1940, at least we'd have the Maginot Line. We haven't even drawn a line in the sand.
33 posted on 02/08/2004 2:55:02 AM PST by hershey
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To: hedgetrimmer
Having the military on the border would require changes in the Posse Comitatus law as well as the buying at taxpayer expense the land all along the U.S./Mexican border, similar to a right of way for roadways.

Simpler less expensive methods would work .Change the law of the land that grants automatic citizenship to the children of persons in this nation illegally this ends the "anchor baby" scenario were the first thing the illegals do is have a child who is an automatic citizen then the courts are loath to deport the parents.

Second change the law that if you are found to have committed a crime in the U.S. & are here illegally you get the maximum sentence for your crime & automatic extra sentence for being in the country illegally added to the end of sentence,ie you do time for the bank robbery first then the time for being an illegal then from prison you get shown the border. No reunion with the family/friends, no parole back to the block,from the prison to the border for expulsion.

Third build Hadrian's wall across the U.S./Mexican border I am fairly certain we can find a good number of former East Germans with fence installing experience who would be willing to work at a modest price in exchange for resident alien status with the option to become citizens.

These measures are in fact "doable" it's simply a lack of will& integrity on the part of both political parties to enforce the laws & to preserve our national borders .
Sadly the day will come in the not to distant future when American citizenship will be good for one thing.
PAYING EVERYONE ELSE'S BILL'S!!!
34 posted on 02/08/2004 7:08:48 AM PST by Nebr FAL owner (.308 reach out & thump someone .50 cal. Browning reach out & crush someone)
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To: Nebr FAL owner
**Simpler less expensive methods would work .Change the law of the land that grants automatic citizenship to the children of persons in this nation illegally this ends the "anchor baby" scenario were the first thing the illegals do is have a child who is an automatic citizen then the courts are loath to deport the parents.**

This is something I've been curious about for years - anyone know the origin of this law?
35 posted on 02/08/2004 7:49:30 AM PST by daybreakcoming (used to be a centrist but the left keeps pushing me right)
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To: idratherbepainting
Happy Birthday!

I'd rather be painting too; gorgeous day for it. Maybe a Plein-Air group could do a little watching through field glasses while wielding ye 'ol paint brush - this Nana is up for it!

36 posted on 02/08/2004 7:52:31 AM PST by yoe
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To: idratherbepainting
BTTT
38 posted on 02/08/2004 8:47:09 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Spiff
Spiff, the border problems stem from around 1984 with the La Paz agreement, more United Nations, Stockholm and others getting America to forfeit land along her southern border. R.R. was president at the time. Take a look at this map: (MAP) - ranchers and home owners on the border don't 'own' per se the land if it is in the 40 (?) mile barrier (40 to north – 40 to south) on either side. Our Federal Gov. has bought up as much land as possible to date. Texas has the same problem if not bigger:(Texax Borders XX1).

(AZ MAP showing Fed.land use)

(boundrie map)

(US-Mexico Border Program)

Spiff and All, there is more at work here than meets the eye and our elected starting with Jim Kolbe, whom I sent papers about this back in the early '90s as well as John McCain and got no response, I don't think they had a clue as to the danger or what The La Paz Agreement was all about. Our politicians have their backs against the wall because of all these previous agreements and the EPA (United Nation agencies) have the upper hand, perhaps that is why they aren't upset at the trashing of the desert.

I think some historian on the subject of Borders XX1 and good land lawyer had better start explaining what all this means - but in a nut shell folks, we've been had by the Globalists in this world. Friends who are ranchers, along with other ranchers in TX managed to buy up a bunch of land to keep the gov. and EPA at bay. This mess didn't happen over night and it needs to be cleaned up ASAP but the National Guard and Federal Government can't move - they are boxed in.

A bunch of stuff - (jobs via US, UN, and other agencies – unbelievable!)

39 posted on 02/08/2004 9:00:49 AM PST by yoe
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To: Spiff
fuming bump
40 posted on 02/08/2004 9:01:47 AM PST by Mamzelle
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To: yoe
Good post. Bookmarking...
41 posted on 02/08/2004 9:06:38 AM PST by hedgetrimmer
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To: HiJinx; Spiff; idratherbepainting; JackelopeBreeder; AZHSer; Sabertooth; Marine Inspector; ...
Time for this information to get to all the elected officials. They need to know the extra ordinary lengths that our law enforcement agencies have to go to just to protect our most precious assets; our children.

Perhaps, just perhaps this will convince them that the border must be sealed and the illegals must come forward to face the music of justice.

--- If you want on or off my Border PING list send me an email ---
42 posted on 02/08/2004 9:15:42 AM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: SandRat
"...the border must be sealed and the illegals must come forward to face the music of justice."

It could be that We don't own our southern borders - the United Nations and all who signed on the La Paz Agreement do! It is an incredible mess!!! Do all these agencies actually own the land or do those who purchased it and have mortgages and deeds showing ownership, and pay the property taxes own it. Is our government refusing to help because of the web of involvement and deceit politicians have ensnared themselves in as the problem passes from one had to another – California and Texas are equally bound by these treaties that Americans did not vote on.

If there are any lawyers who practice land law on Free Republic, sound off, we need help here. Have we given up our Sovereignty to the UN without knowing it? Borders XX1 and the United Nations Agenda 21 are about the same thing. Layer after layer of “agreements” have been agreed to but by whom, certainly not the American taxpayer and voter. Ask any AZ politician about this and you get the deer in the headlights look. Make an interesting law suit – hehehehehe.

43 posted on 02/08/2004 10:10:33 AM PST by yoe
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To: yoe
Bttt! Interesting...
44 posted on 02/08/2004 10:25:36 AM PST by monkeywrench
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To: yoe
Have we given up our Sovereignty to the UN without knowing it?

I know what my commissioning oath said and have said it so many times (every time I was promoted) that I have the very words internalized. No where in those oaths is or was any reference made to the bloody UN.

My oaths were to the Constitution of the United States against ALL enemies FOREIGN AND DOMESTIC and my oaths ended with SO HELP ME GOD.

Last time I checked GOD had not released me of those oaths and promises (I'm still walking on the grass; not pushing it up).

45 posted on 02/08/2004 10:58:13 AM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: SandRat
Bump
46 posted on 02/08/2004 11:48:16 AM PST by 4.1O dana super trac pak (Base to President Bush. Hello?)
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To: Squantos
Huh... I lived in Sierra Vista for 7 mos while going to MI school at Huachuca. I used to get around Benson and Tombstone all the time. I like it there.
47 posted on 02/08/2004 12:07:59 PM PST by Cogadh na Sith (The Guns of Brixton)
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To: SandRat
Bump.

Thanks for the update.

48 posted on 02/08/2004 2:43:38 PM PST by Missouri
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To: SandRat
I agree with you, the oaths have not changed BUT when reading the Borders XX1 and the UN Agenda 21 plus all who signed on for Borders XX1 via the La Paz Agreement, perhaps and just perhaps putting military along our southern border would create an international event - and I don't think "we" have the right anymore to close our border or we have to pull back some 40 miles and close it. I would really appreciate your thoughts on this, so read the La Paz Agreement and let me know what you think. By the way the United Nations is now part of all our National Parks.
49 posted on 02/09/2004 7:17:10 AM PST by yoe
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