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Music industry primps for a hip-hop and rhythm-and-blues Grammys
Yahoo ^ | 8 Feb 2004 | AFP

Posted on 02/08/2004 2:32:52 PM PST by hattend

Music industry primps for a hip-hop and rhythm-and-blues Grammys - AFP to My Yahoo!

LOS ANGELES (AFP) - Young urban music stars, led by eclectic rap duo Outkast, are poised to steal the show at Sunday's 46th annual Grammy Awards, but they'll still have to compete for attention with the superstar who won't be there, Janet Jackson. While Outkast, siren Beyonce Knowles, her rapper boyfriend Jay-Z and producer Pharrell Williams all lead the nominations with six each, Jackson's absence will be felt as strongly as the winners.

Michael Jackson's little sister, who was to present an award to Luther Vandross, appears to have been blackballed by organisers after scandal erupted when pop icon Justin Timberlake ripped off her bodice as part of a televised Super Bowl act and exposed her breast to the 100 million viewers a week ago.

"I think Janet Jackson's absence at the Grammys (news - web sites) will be felt more than her presence would have been, especially with Justin Timberlake up on stage as a nominee and a performer," awards expert Tom O'Neil said after Jackson revealed she would not attend the awards.

While Jackson and just about everybody else linked to the costume boob has apologised, American outrage over the prime-time flash has snowballed and the scandal now threatens to upstage the Grammy winners.

This year, for the first time in the history of music's highest honours, Grammy voters, once known for their staid tastes, have picked young urban music stars to dominate the main awards categories.

The eclectic US rap duo Outkast were among the hot favourites to dominate the awards, coming armed with six nods, including album of the year for their pop and R-and-B infused double-disc "Speakerboxx/The Love Below," and record of the year for their energetic song "Hey Ya!"

"I think that Outkast is going to be this year's Norah Jones," said Geoff Mayfield, Grammy voter and director of charts for Billboard magazine, referring to the soulful young Jones' eight stunning Grammy wins last year.

"I expect Outkast will have some key wins because they are nominated in so many categories and have produced a truly interesting compelling album."

The duo's Dre and Big Boi are also up for awards that include rap album of the year, best urban/alternative performance, producer of the year and best short form music video.

Outkast, Beyonce, Jay-Z and Williams face off nine artists who have five nominations each, including funk-soul star Missy Elliott, the suddenly controversial Timberlake, rappers Eminem (news - web sites) and 50 Cent, hard-rockers Evanescence and blues king Vandross, who is recovering from a stroke.

In the top album of the year category, Outkast must do battle with up-and-coming rockers Evanescence for their album "Fallen," with Timberlake's "Justified," Missy Elliott's "Under Construction" and "Elephant" by the rock duo The White Stripes.

Beyonce, 22, is vying for the equally prestigious record of the year -- awarded to the artist and producer of a song -- for "Crazy in Love" against category favourite the Brit-group Coldplay for "Clocks," the Black Eyed Peas and Justin Timberlake for "Where Is the Love?," Eminem for "Lose Yourself" and Outkast's "Hey Ya!"

Nominees in the song of the year category -- awarded to the songwriter -- are favourite Eminem for "Lose Yourself," pop vixen Christina Aguilera for "Beautiful," Avril Lavigne for "I'm With You," Luther Vandross for "Dance With My Father" and the late Warren Zevon, who died of lung cancer in September but has five Grammy nods, for "Keep Me In Your Heart."

Best new artist contenders are Evanescence for "Bring Me To Life," 50 Cent for "In Da Club," breakout rhythm-and-blues diva Heather Headley for "I Wish I Wasn't," Fountains of Wayne for "Stacy's Mom" and Sean Paul for "Get Busy."

Whoever wins in the top Grammys categories -- there are 105 in total -- chances are that it will be music's youth that will dominate the evening as the Grammys try to shed their image of being the "grannies."

"They are all so young," Mayfield said. "Maybe it is because it was perceived before that the membership was kind of old, so they successfully recruited enough young members who vote for young nominees."

There are some not-so-young but very unusual Grammy nominees this year -- former US president Bill Clinton (news - web sites) and his wife Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton (news - web sites), both nominated for their work on spoken word albums. Senator Clinton won a Grammy in 1996 for her reading of the book "It Takes a Village."

Bill Clinton is nominated along with former Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev and actress Sophia Loren for a recording of "Peter and the Wolf," which was recorded to honor the 50th anniversary of Sergei Prokoviev.

In a separate category Hillary Clinton (news - web sites) was nominated for a Grammy for her autobiography "Living History."

Performers at the Grammys show, which begins at Los Angeles' Staples Center at 5:00pm (0100 GMT Monday), will include Timberlake, Sting, Christina Aguilera, Outkast and veteran group Earth, Wind and Fire.

The Grammy winners are chosen by the 18,000-odd members of the Recording Academy.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: California
KEYWORDS: cbs; grammy; grammys; todaysmusicsucks; wontwatch
Outkast is this year's Nora Jones?...LOL!!

Bill Clinton is nominated along with former Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev and actress Sophia Loren for a recording of "Peter and the Wolf," which was recorded to honor the 50th anniversary of Sergei Prokoviev.

In a separate category Hillary Clinton was nominated for a Grammy for her autobiography "Living History."

Any bets these two boils on the rear of society win?

Okay, who is starting the FR Live Thread tonight? anyone? I'm not going to watch and I like the FR comments much better anyway.

The Grammy winners are chosen by the 18,000-odd members of the Recording Academy.

"odd" is an understatement.

1 posted on 02/08/2004 2:32:55 PM PST by hattend
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To: hattend
In other words, yet another Grammys event with a sum total of zero musical talent.
2 posted on 02/08/2004 2:33:43 PM PST by thoughtomator ("What do I know? I'm just the President." - George W. Bush, Superbowl XXXVIII halftime statement)
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To: hattend
***YAWN***
3 posted on 02/08/2004 2:38:28 PM PST by EggsAckley (..................**AMEND** the Fourteenth Amendment......(There, is THAT better?).................)
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To: hattend
For a second, I thought the article was titled: "Music Industry Pimps..."
4 posted on 02/08/2004 2:38:28 PM PST by Wilhelm Tell (Lurking since 1997!)
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To: hattend
Why ANYONE watches this garbage is beyond me. I haven't watched a Grammy show in 20 years, and I don't plan on starting anytime soon.

P.S. - Rap should NOT be classified as music. Long Live Rock N Roll!!
5 posted on 02/08/2004 2:39:29 PM PST by reagan_fanatic (I'd rather be driving my '57 Chevy)
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To: Wilhelm Tell
When I first saw it at Yahoo, me too! LOL
6 posted on 02/08/2004 2:40:07 PM PST by hattend (Are we there, yet?)
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To: hattend
Music industry primps for a hip-hop and rhythm-and-blues Grammys

Music industry pimps for a hip-hop and rhythm-and-blues Grammys

Yo! I'm straight pimpin' G.

7 posted on 02/08/2004 2:40:45 PM PST by sharktrager (The last rebel without a cause in a world full of causes without a rebel.)
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To: thoughtomator
Wow good thing the music industry goes right to you for its much needed approval of what is good and what isn't.
8 posted on 02/08/2004 2:44:41 PM PST by Afro_conservative
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To: Afro_conservative
Pfft... if the music industry came to me, you'd be hearing virtuoso performances in innovative genres instead of recycled 1970's bass lines produced by a machine... and you'd be seeing remarkable musicians performing their craft rather than having barely-clothed harlots jiggle their bodies across the stage. It would be a celebration of music, and not a wispy veil covering a deluge of pornography.
9 posted on 02/08/2004 2:52:16 PM PST by thoughtomator ("What do I know? I'm just the President." - George W. Bush, Superbowl XXXVIII halftime statement)
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To: hattend
Whoever wins in the top Grammys categories -- there are 105 in total -- chances are that it will be music's youth that will dominate the evening as the Grammys try to shed their image of being the "grannies."

Norah Jones, last year's big winner, and Alicia Keyes, who won big the year before, aren't exactly geezers. But unlike most of the people in their early-20s age group, they actually have talent, and are considered old-fashioned because they don't appeal to the MTV audience. I suppose if they did a lesbian kiss together, or took off their clothes, they could be considered "young" artists.

10 posted on 02/08/2004 2:53:38 PM PST by NYCVirago
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To: hattend
I'm so glad I read this. I usually like the Grammy's because they present an eclectic sampling of all music. Sounds pretty one sided this year, and it's a side I don't want a part of.
11 posted on 02/08/2004 2:54:22 PM PST by Hildy
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To: hattend
ohmygawd--Bill Clinton is a nominee? And if he wins, will he accept on stage?!
12 posted on 02/08/2004 2:57:24 PM PST by Ciexyz
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To: hattend
I won't be watching that crap.
13 posted on 02/08/2004 2:59:21 PM PST by LoudRepublicangirl (loudrepublicangirl)
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To: hattend
You'd think they'd push artists that would appeal to a broad based section of America -- like Norah Jones last year. Her duet with Willy Nelson has received lots of airplay on Country Music Television.

How do we know what's out there -- if they don't show it to us? Me, I'm not going to buy rap and hip hop. It's not going to happen.

14 posted on 02/08/2004 2:59:31 PM PST by Ciexyz
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To: Hildy; Ciexyz
BTTT what you said
15 posted on 02/08/2004 3:06:34 PM PST by hattend (Are we there, yet?)
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To: hattend
""Peter and the Wolf," which was recorded to honor the 50th anniversary of Sergei Prokoviev.

Prokoviev....the avowed commie...
PUKEMAO!!
16 posted on 02/08/2004 3:10:21 PM PST by international american (Support our troops..............................................revoke Hillary's visa!!)
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To: reagan_fanatic
Any credibility "the Grammy's" had for me ended when Gladys Knight and the Pips won Album of the Year over Paul McCartney's "Band on the Run". It may have even been for "Rock Album of the Year", which is much worse.
17 posted on 02/08/2004 3:16:31 PM PST by handk (That's why I'm cheesy... I'm cheesy like macaroni... (Lionel Ritchie))
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To: EggsAckley
yup
18 posted on 02/08/2004 3:18:31 PM PST by cyborg
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To: thoughtomator
Zero Talent is right.

Next year might be different.

I'm predicting that Tommy Emmanuel's new release "Endless Road" will be nominated, or win, Best Album, Best Recording, Best Composition, and Best Performance....if it gets US distribution. He's the greatest guitarist and composer who's ever lived, and he's catching on fast. I think you'll be hearing him on the AT40 soon.

I think Hip Hop and Rap is gasping its last....there's a change in the air.

19 posted on 02/08/2004 3:43:16 PM PST by dasboot (Somebody's Sister Bites Moose. Now That's News!)
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To: dasboot

20 posted on 02/08/2004 3:47:56 PM PST by Dallas59
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To: hattend
Was Howard Dean nominated in the Best Male Vocal Performance category for his hit single "HEY AAARGH"?
21 posted on 02/08/2004 3:48:25 PM PST by got_moab? (Howard Dean is not MY neighbor !!!)
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To: thoughtomator
I hate awards shows, so I don't watch...but beg to differ...Outkast is pretty good. They've combined 70's style funk with irreverent humour.
22 posted on 02/08/2004 4:04:12 PM PST by Katya
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To: thoughtomator
I think a lot of people here just have different ideas of what is garbage and what is truly music. Remember in the 50's Rock n' Roll just came out and it was "crap" to those who where used to classical, etc. By the way Rock and Rap will be here forever especially since mainstream Americans have adopted it as a whole.
23 posted on 02/08/2004 4:05:35 PM PST by Afro_conservative
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To: international american
""Peter and the Wolf," which was recorded to honor the 50th anniversary of Sergei Prokoviev.

Clinton's recording of this is a revisionist one. I think the wolf's a good guy or something in this (no joke!)

24 posted on 02/08/2004 4:38:31 PM PST by NYCVirago
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To: hattend
Big surprise -- according to the Grammy winners' list, both Bill Clinton and Al Franken have already won.
http://www.grammys.com/awards/grammy/46winners.aspx
25 posted on 02/08/2004 4:41:29 PM PST by NYCVirago
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To: NYCVirago
ugh
26 posted on 02/08/2004 5:40:32 PM PST by hattend (Are we there, yet?)
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To: hattend
Hillary Clinton for a Grammy? Is this a joke? Or a typo?

As for Beyonce Knowles, what a disgusting person, whose sense of entitlement borders on the pathological. The demands for her to sing our national anthem included that no one near her or near her entourage be seen drinking anything but Pepsi. No more Pepsi at our house.

27 posted on 02/09/2004 8:16:22 AM PST by Dante3
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To: Dante3
Are you serious. I think you may be constipated.
28 posted on 02/09/2004 10:50:14 PM PST by Afro_conservative
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To: Afro_conservative
No need to get vulgar. Among other sources, the San Francisco Chronicel reported that Beyonce even "shocked the organizers of Super Bowl" with her extrvagant demands.
29 posted on 02/10/2004 4:18:51 AM PST by Dante3
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