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Rally for Marriage, Boston Common
Self | Feb 8, 2004 | Self

Posted on 02/08/2004 3:27:47 PM PST by Little Bill

I arrived at the Rally for Marriage at 2:30 while Don Feder was speaking missing the first speaker. The crowd was impressive, best guess would be about 3000- 3500, a good draw for a twenty degree day with a wind chill of below 0.

Across Tremont Street a group of sodomites, lesbians, and other off brands, about 125 or so, were cluttering up the sidewalk waving the fag flag and signs complaining about discrimination and despoiling the constitution, yeah.

I met JMT576 and his uncle and we desided to walk around, take some pictures for posting, and generally get a feel for what was going on. The crowd very diverse black, white, oriential and very well ordered, the cops kept a tight lid on disrupters of which there were a few.

I didn't pay a lot of attention to the speakers after Feder, they would be preaching to the converted, I will say that Ray Flynn did a good job running the Rally, it was the first time I have seen him without a Bud in his hand.

The high point of the Rally was Archbishop O'Malley, you could feel the fear and loathing eminating from the State House. The Rally broke up after that, very well done.


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I did a lot of picture taking mainly to give people a feel for a Rally that wasn't WWP connected. Anyone who was there please post your views.
1 posted on 02/08/2004 3:27:48 PM PST by Little Bill
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To: Little Bill; seamole
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2 posted on 02/08/2004 3:29:38 PM PST by Little Bill (I can't take another rat in the White House at my age.)
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To: Little Bill
What did Don Feder say? He used to write for the Boston Herald and is now a Boston talk radio show host who is a Jewish conservative in a very liberal state.
3 posted on 02/08/2004 3:30:46 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Little Bill
thanks for the up-to-the-minute information
4 posted on 02/08/2004 3:31:25 PM PST by rface (Ashland, Missouri -)
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To: Little Bill
BRAVO......for being there & for your report.....hope those in the State House start listening to the people!
5 posted on 02/08/2004 3:31:32 PM PST by JulieRNR21 (One good term deserves another! Take W-04....Across America!)
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To: Little Bill
when does the annual homo-parade happen out there (Cambridge maybe?)?
6 posted on 02/08/2004 3:32:49 PM PST by rface (Ashland, Missouri -)
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To: goldstategop
Pix. Click
7 posted on 02/08/2004 3:36:59 PM PST by Little Bill (I can't take another rat in the White House at my age.)
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To: Little Bill; All
ABC just announced they were going to cover the rally. Upcomming.
8 posted on 02/08/2004 3:41:52 PM PST by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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To: Little Bill
Thanks for posting those pics. Those people look cold. It was cold for me walking across the common to get to the rally, but it was warm enough standing in the crowd.
9 posted on 02/08/2004 3:45:48 PM PST by NutCrackerBoy
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To: 54-46 Was My Number; AdrianSpidle; agitator; AHAB; airforce19811985; albertp; alexpenceisright; ...
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10 posted on 02/08/2004 3:59:34 PM PST by Little Bill (I can't take another rat in the White House at my age.)
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To: Little Bill
Thanks for the ping! Don Feder was great at the rally here in Worcester week before last. Did he speak about Judicial Tyranny? He's so strong on that!

Looks like a great crowd. How long did Archbishop O'Malley speak? I think the high muckety mucks in Boston thought he'd be a pushover, being one of those 'peaceful Franciscans' and all. Woo Hoo, did they get a shock!

11 posted on 02/08/2004 4:11:11 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: SuziQ
Judicial Tyranny, yes, and that Orthodox Jews support the Amendment.
12 posted on 02/08/2004 4:25:21 PM PST by Little Bill (I can't take another rat in the White House at my age.)
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To: Little Bill; SuziQ; seamole; JulieRNR21
Thanks Bill for starting the thread and posting the pics.

Yes it was cold! I liked Don Feder too. He was introduced as a " Jewish right-wing kook" or something like that and he said he appreciated the title. He gave us some Jewish history of how we learned about marriage from the Jews, people like Abraham and Sarah, Jacob and Leah, etc.

He told how the Jews gave the world a moral base in which marriage was sacred and to pass this new definition of marriage would be the equivalent of going back to the land of the Canaanites. He gave Christians credit for Westernizing the concept of marriage.

The lady from CWA was very passionate and effective in her defense of marriage. Retired MA Supreme Court Justice Nolan was very forthright about marriage being a God given blessing to one man and one woman, not simply a right to be bestowed on whomever by the State of Massachusetts. He urged us to pray to God [and the mother of God] that marriage might remain a sacred institution composed of one man one woman.

A strong statement from Dr. Dobson was read

Seamole and I stood together at the rally, along with Rod [from the Meetup on last Tuesday]. Rod hasn't joined FR yet for some reason.

The coverage I watched after coming home made it look like the two sides [us and them] were equally represented at the rally. Not so at all. Whenever they started to be disruptive with their singing or whatever we began to chant "Let the people vote!" I brought a sign that simply said "One Man One Woman" which was pretty much the rally cry of the event as well.
I guessed there were five thousand demonstrating in favor of letting the representatives vote on this change in the definition of marriage.
Ray Flynn said the tide is turning our way and he felt that we must continue to contact our reps this week to let them know we want to vote!!!!

Lots of diversity in the crowd; old, young and all races. Bishop O'Malley spoke a word in Spanish for the Hispanics in attendance. Nice touch.

Wish I had hooked up with some other FReepers. Missed Electric's large American flag as a meeting place. Finishing with God Bless America was a meaningful touch.
Thanks all,
Thirsty

Don't Forget to call your legislators and tell them,
Vote on Wednesday February 11th to:
"Let the People Vote!!!!Let the People Vote!!!!Let the People Vote!!!!Let the People Vote!!!!Let the People Vote!!!!"

13 posted on 02/08/2004 5:47:56 PM PST by ThirstyMan
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To: Little Bill
We can't wait!

We're moving to Massachusetts!

14 posted on 02/08/2004 5:52:15 PM PST by Zechariah11
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To: Little Bill
We have one coming up in Connecticut soon
15 posted on 02/08/2004 6:01:10 PM PST by RaceBannon (John Kerry is Vietnam's Benedict Arnold: Former War Hero turned Traitor)
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To: ThirstyMan; Little Bill; SuziQ; seamole
Thanks for your report.

God Bless All who attended the Rally!

God Made Adam and Eve......NOT Adam and Steve!
16 posted on 02/08/2004 6:40:14 PM PST by JulieRNR21 (One good term deserves another! Take W-04....Across America!)
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To: Little Bill
I saw the Yahoo!/AP piece called the good guys 'boisterous.'
17 posted on 02/08/2004 6:42:11 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (do not remove this tag under penalty of law.)
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To: guinnessboy; BostonianRightist; kphockey2; mrs_kphockey2; ElectricStrawberry
For those of you who didn't make it out today, you missed a really great event. I have to admit that I had a hard time following any of the speakers (I watched too much MTV growing up).

But the BEST part of the day was seeing so many "normal" people turn out for a good cause. It was freezing out there, but it seemed like the crowd just kept growing!

My media bias experience for today: I turned on WRKO so I could listen to Drudge, and I swear I heard the news person say that there were "two or three hundred" people out today! Try thousands, not hundreds. I love media bias!

As a wise man once told me, when it comes to estimating crowds it's really simple. Count the feet and divide by two!
18 posted on 02/08/2004 7:14:03 PM PST by jmt576
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To: seamole
Thanks for the ping! Obviously the people are standing up to the MA courts, and I bet the courts don't like it one little bit...too bad for them!
20 posted on 02/08/2004 8:43:43 PM PST by ahadams2 (Anglican Freeper Resource Page: http://eala.freeservers.com/anglican/)
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To: Little Bill
other off brands...the fag flag

Please watch your language as what might be deemed hateful epithets will not help the cause of marriage. As Christians we must hate the sin and love the sinner. The issue with same sex marriage is not denial of an practical freedom of homosexuals to cohabit and live as man and wife. It is rather illegitimate government promotion of homosexual activity, which many in society view and have a right to view as immoral. And all this imposed by courts on specious legal arguments on constitutional "rights" which are not in accord with either the intent of the framers or the consensus of society.

21 posted on 02/08/2004 8:52:40 PM PST by Unam Sanctam
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To: Little Bill; seamole; 2ndMostConservativeBrdMember; afraidfortherepublic; Alas; al_c; ...
3000- 3500, a good draw for a twenty degree day with a wind chill of below 0....The high point of the Rally was Archbishop O'Malley, you could feel the fear and loathing emanating from the State House. The Rally broke up after that, very well done......

The archbishop is acting like a true shepherd.
23 posted on 02/08/2004 9:22:50 PM PST by Coleus (Vote for Bush and Traditional Marriage; http://msnbc.msn.com/id/4205947/)
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To: seamole
The thing that agrivates me is the lack of real out rage. Despite the good turn out, on reflection, I keep getting the feeling that if we fail alot of the who people were there will say, "Oh well, we tried and we lost so we will have to live with it."
24 posted on 02/08/2004 10:03:14 PM PST by Little Bill (I can't take another rat in the White House at my age.)
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To: Coleus
The archbishop is acting like a true shepherd.

Ain't it great? I'm anxious to see who's going to be appointed to replace O'Reilly in Worcester. I think that's supposed to happen sometime this year.

25 posted on 02/08/2004 10:04:31 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: seamole
By accepting the watered down bill we have, in essence, surendered. The rats in the General Court are afraid of a voter revolt and they are throwing a bone in hopes of savving their sorry butts.

That way they can say to the sodimites, we have made the best of an impossible issue, half a loaf is better than none, so please help me so that I can help you in the future.

....And everyone rolls over, the pubbies for lack of nads and everyone else because "We tried but this is the best that we can get." Now is the time to take a stand, now is the time to play hardball.

29 posted on 02/08/2004 10:37:41 PM PST by Little Bill (I can't take another rat in the White House at my age.)
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To: seamole
lame. They only showed supporters. The reporter basically said it was inevitable the homosexual marriages would happen because the soonest a vote could happen is 2006. They also reported that the demands for a public vote would not guarantee passage of the constitutional amendment because the public is "divided".

It was tame, and not overly biased against. That may have had more to do with the freezing weather and the dearth of opposition to the supporters of traditional matter.

The emphasis was definitly on letting the public vote. A suprisingly unified portrayal.
30 posted on 02/08/2004 11:16:52 PM PST by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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To: seamole
The ABC reporter indicated that BOTH sides acknowledge there are "more than enough" votes in the legislature to pass the constitutional amendment.
31 posted on 02/08/2004 11:33:24 PM PST by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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To: seamole
Feel free to send the link to my photographs to any talk show host you feel could use them. I will FRep mail it to you if you want it.
35 posted on 02/08/2004 11:48:33 PM PST by Little Bill (I can't take another rat in the White House at my age.)
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To: jmt576; american colleen
I heard the news of the rally on the 11:00PM news out here in Phoenix. They said "thousands" attended. They also had a short "bite" from Archbishop O'Malley's speech and included applause after one of his statements.I think you guys impressed someone on the wire service and I was happy our guys out here picked up on it and used it. Congratulation!!Maybe Massachusets well put the whole movement into reverse. Good job!!
36 posted on 02/09/2004 12:04:33 AM PST by saradippity
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To: seamole
Don't get depressed. ABC announced that the pro-amendment forces have the votes to get the amendment.

Also, HRC has a webpage set up on their website to send automated formletters to representatives after you enter your name and zip code. We are not the only ones sending communication to representatives.

If you like I can post the information for the FMA Federal House and Senate Committees here.
38 posted on 02/09/2004 12:34:10 AM PST by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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To: seamole
The mass courts have taken the civil union issue off the table. Just because they allow them does not mean they will be allowed. I rather have that than nothing.
40 posted on 02/09/2004 12:43:37 AM PST by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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To: seamole
As a statutory creation civil unions under the law will recieve very narrow interpritation. Unlike the Marriage which existed under common law, any item which exists as a statory creature has to have very finite boundaries.

This happened in the 11th circuit court of appeals when the Feds upheld the FL ban on homosexuals adopting children. The homosexuals challenging the law could only rise to the lowest test for upholding the law. This was their last challenge after being beaten back twice in the FL SC.

Plus, if the civil union is adopted it will have to open to normal couples who just live together. Before the civil unions may have been marriage without the "m" word, but thanks to the arrogance of the Mass Judge, she judicially declared civil unions second class status to marriage.

This also becomes a litmus test for future politicians. Civil unions can be abolished in a blink. Many states have said they do not recognize common law marriages entered into after a certain date.

First Marriage is one man one woman, then kick GLSEN out of the Mass public schools, then work on minimizing and then abolishing civil unions.
42 posted on 02/09/2004 1:20:28 AM PST by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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To: seamole
oops forgot to mention aoption does not exist at common law. It is a wholey statutory creation. Thus it is severly limited in its scope of interpritation by courts.
43 posted on 02/09/2004 1:23:02 AM PST by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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To: seamole
well that is just wrong. They adopted that already?

If they have not, I hope they do not. It makes civil union just another civil marriage.

ok now I am depressed.
46 posted on 02/09/2004 1:33:54 AM PST by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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To: seamole
the only solutions at this point is 1. sue under some federal court theory and get a stay. 2. stop issuing marriage licenses to anyone thus all are equal, or 3. SJC is conviced to stay their order pending a vote. (not going to happen)

Then you will have two years of anecdotal stories of don't hurt my feeeeeeeelings.

The only solution for all states and jurisdictions ithe a federal amendment.
48 posted on 02/09/2004 1:40:10 AM PST by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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To: seamole
will GLSEN demand homosexuality become mandatory?(/s)
50 posted on 02/09/2004 1:45:11 AM PST by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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