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Did President Bush lie to the American People? Did our Intelligence Agencies fail us?
ME | 2/8/04 | mjy1288

Posted on 02/08/2004 7:58:19 PM PST by MJY1288

All you have to do is remove the willful distortions of the facts in the press lately and look at this whole thing realistically, I'll try to do so now

1. We know for a FACT that Saddam Hussein possessed and used both Chemical and Biological agents against his enemies and his own people. This is FACT

2. We know that he was trying to develop a Nuclear Weapon before Israel bombed their Reactor in the 1980's... FACT

3. We know that his Chemical Weapons development went undetected until after the Gulf War and undetected by Weapons Inspectors until his Son-in-Law defected and told us where they were being developed.... FACT

4. We know that after 6 years of obstruction, the U.N. Weapons inspectors could not find and destroy the WMD's Saddam himself declared he had, in 1998 the U.N. Inspectors left Iraq without destroying everything that Saddam still possessed....... FACT

5. We know that Saddam never verified the destruction of the unaccounted for WMD's he admitted having... FACT

6. We know that after 12 years of U.N. Sanctions and enforcing the No-Fly Zones, Saddam still never accounted for the WMD's he admitted having..... FACT

7. We know that after Saddam was overthrown, David Kay has reported that Saddam had "Many Clandestine Laboratories" that were in violation of U.N. Resolution 1441, and all of the other 16 U.N. Resolutions ......FACT

8. We know that Saddam was compensating the families of suicide bombers in Israel in the amount of 25,000.00 U.S. Dollars.... FACT

9. We know that after the Gulf War in 1991, we found out that Saddam was much closer to developing a Nuclear Weapon that we had estimated…. FACT

After all of this... we are supposed to believe that Saddam voluntarily destroyed his WMD's after we left Iraq in 1998? The only intelligent conclusion anyone with half a brain can come up with is that either we have yet to find them in Iraq, or Saddam had them moved to Syria, and since many in his Regime fled to Syria, my guess is that they are buried in Syria.

No President who respects the Oath he takes to defend this Country could ignore these facts in a post 9/11 world. It’s not like Iraq was some third world country that we had never had problems with before, in fact, we lost several hundred U.S. Soldiers in Operation Desert Storm and Saddam had agreed to terms of a cease fire that would allow him to remain in power.

After 12 years of violating every agreement he made after the Gulf War and as a Nation who expects the world to take us seriously, we needed to remove him for the sake of our fallen soldiers whose blood was used to sign that cease fire in 1991. For that reason alone, WE DID THE RIGHT THING.. Think about this...... :-)

Have you heard anything about Syria lately? any statements from the State Dept. or Defense Dept.? The answer is NO, Methinks, we are in the middle of serious negotiations with Syria as I type this. Much like the ones we were in with Libya before they capitulated. My question is... Where is Richard Armitage? he is the State Departments "Heavy Hand" and he is one hell of an asset to this country


TOPICS: War on Terror; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: bushlied; intelligence; waronterror; wmds
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1 posted on 02/08/2004 7:58:26 PM PST by MJY1288
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To: rintense; mombonn; ejo; Fiddlstix; lawgirl; Teacup; Miss Marple; Wait4Truth; TruthNtegrity; ...
Ping for your thoughts
2 posted on 02/08/2004 7:59:55 PM PST by MJY1288 (IF JOHN KERRY IS THE ANSWER, IT MUST BE A STUPID QUESTION)
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To: MJY1288
>>..Where is Richard Armitage..

He's in charge of the carrot & stick approach...he tells the other side if they don't take the carrot, we'll deliver the stick in a most unpleasant manner...
3 posted on 02/08/2004 8:00:47 PM PST by Keith in Iowa (The only good news for Democrats is they could save $$ by switching to Geico.)
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To: MJY1288
Of course you are right. We were told at the very beginning of this that there are things we would know and things we would not know. Nothing is going to be said for sure until these weapons are in safe hands.
4 posted on 02/08/2004 8:03:10 PM PST by McGavin999 (Evil thrives when good men do nothing!)
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To: Grampa Dave; nopardons; Dane; Defender2; PhiKapMom; Texasforever
Ping
5 posted on 02/08/2004 8:03:22 PM PST by MJY1288 (IF JOHN KERRY IS THE ANSWER, IT MUST BE A STUPID QUESTION)
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To: MJY1288
At the moment Armitage in is Japan talking tough anout North Korea.
6 posted on 02/08/2004 8:03:55 PM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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To: MJY1288
Kerry saw the same intelligence. The media has an agenda: defeat President Bush by any and all means, the dirtier the better.

Nice work, MJY1288.
7 posted on 02/08/2004 8:04:43 PM PST by onyx (Your secrets are safe with me and all my friends.)
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To: MJY1288
Methinks, we are in the middle of serious negotiations with Syria as I type this.

Me thinks as you typed this (or that as the case may be) it was 05:58AM Monday morning in Damascus. Now explain why yourthinks we'd, whoever "we" are, be negotiating at 05:58AM with Syria or anybody for that matter!

8 posted on 02/08/2004 8:04:59 PM PST by Revolting cat! ("In the end, nothing explains anything!")
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To: MJY1288; carton253
Pre 9-11, we had the leisure to think and discuss what we should do.

Post 9-11, we act. And act fast.

I don't see what poeple don't get.

One of my favorite quotes:

I'm under the impression that all terrorists are like wasps from the same nest. It is fruitless and pointless to try to figure out which wasp stung us and which wasp did not. Destroy the nest and every wasp you find in the nest. 98 posted on 08/19/2003 9:19 AM EDT by carton253

9 posted on 02/08/2004 8:05:07 PM PST by eyespysomething (Another American optimist!)
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To: piasa
The latest uncovering of the Nuclear Bazaar that was going on between the "Axis of Evil" members and others in the Middle East and the Horn of Africa has completely legitimized President Bush's remarks in his 2002 SOTU address when he warned of these gathering dangers that we are facing. Quietly behind the scenes he has lead the fight against our enemies and has never taken credit for what he and his team has been able to accomplish since September 11th, 2001.
10 posted on 02/08/2004 8:08:23 PM PST by MJY1288 (IF JOHN KERRY IS THE ANSWER, IT MUST BE A STUPID QUESTION)
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To: MJY1288
good post. good information. thanks
11 posted on 02/08/2004 8:09:29 PM PST by olliemb
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To: Revolting cat!
LOL, OK I'm very sorry, I should have posted a disclaimer for the anal here on FR :-)
12 posted on 02/08/2004 8:10:18 PM PST by MJY1288 (IF JOHN KERRY IS THE ANSWER, IT MUST BE A STUPID QUESTION)
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To: MJY1288
I don't have a single thing to add.

Except, maybe, why is the Bekaa Valley of interest to my brethren under arms?

13 posted on 02/08/2004 8:16:38 PM PST by Old Sarge
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To: MJY1288
Cogently written, factual, and exposes the biased media, rabid Dems, and FR's naysayers for what and who they are.

This is how the president and we need to counter the garbage being put out there.

14 posted on 02/08/2004 8:19:53 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Old Sarge
"Except, maybe, why is the Bekaa Valley of interest to my brethren under arms?"

And bring a bunch of excavating equipment :-)

15 posted on 02/08/2004 8:21:02 PM PST by MJY1288 (IF JOHN KERRY IS THE ANSWER, IT MUST BE A STUPID QUESTION)
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To: MJY1288
Thank You For Your Outstanding Post and Ping!!!!:-)
16 posted on 02/08/2004 8:21:44 PM PST by Defender2 (Defending Our Bill of Rights, Our Constitution, Our Country and Our Freedom!!!!)
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To: MJY1288
The ends sometimes justifies the means
17 posted on 02/08/2004 8:23:34 PM PST by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: piasa
If anyone should have a comment on Kerry it might be Armitage...
If I remember correctly Armitage was Mobile Riverine in 69 as well...
18 posted on 02/08/2004 8:24:56 PM PST by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: MJY1288
No President who respects the Oath he takes to defend this Country could ignore these facts in a post 9/11 world.

But not every President cares about the Oath. Perks of office are enough for some of them. The perks are there, no matter what.
Bush was quite clear when he said that he wasn't "going to kick the can down the road". Do we want to address the problems we face, or just stick our heads in the sand and hope nothing bad happens?
The choice is clear.

19 posted on 02/08/2004 8:25:24 PM PST by speekinout
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To: MJY1288
Wish President Bush had had your talking points before he sat down with Tim Russert today. Maybe he'll use them in his radio address next weekend! Thanks for a good post.
20 posted on 02/08/2004 8:25:53 PM PST by BlessedAmerican (Pray for our President and those who are fighting to preserve our freedom!)
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To: joesnuffy
No ends, we had every right to remove that mad man, if the press and the doubting Thomas's need WMD's for a justification, Well!!! We have that too :-)
21 posted on 02/08/2004 8:26:31 PM PST by MJY1288 (IF JOHN KERRY IS THE ANSWER, IT MUST BE A STUPID QUESTION)
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To: MJY1288
You have summarized very well the main reasons why the war in Iraq was justified.

BRAVO BUMP!
22 posted on 02/08/2004 8:26:45 PM PST by JulieRNR21 (One good term deserves another! Take W-04....Across America!)
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To: Defender2
I consider that a great compliment coming from you Sir,

Thanks for serving our Country,

god Bless you,

Mike

23 posted on 02/08/2004 8:28:14 PM PST by MJY1288 (IF JOHN KERRY IS THE ANSWER, IT MUST BE A STUPID QUESTION)
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To: BlessedAmerican
Thankx
24 posted on 02/08/2004 8:28:45 PM PST by MJY1288 (IF JOHN KERRY IS THE ANSWER, IT MUST BE A STUPID QUESTION)
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To: Defender2
god = God ..... of course
25 posted on 02/08/2004 8:29:30 PM PST by MJY1288 (IF JOHN KERRY IS THE ANSWER, IT MUST BE A STUPID QUESTION)
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To: MJY1288
Very, Very Best FReegards to You Always, Mike, Defender2 D2
26 posted on 02/08/2004 8:30:41 PM PST by Defender2 (Defending Our Bill of Rights, Our Constitution, Our Country and Our Freedom!!!!)
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To: MJY1288
#25. :-)
27 posted on 02/08/2004 8:31:15 PM PST by Defender2 (Defending Our Bill of Rights, Our Constitution, Our Country and Our Freedom!!!!)
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To: MJY1288
I agree with all the points you raise.

And that Pres. Bush did the right thing.

Just to let you know - the part of the Intelligence Community that I am in touch with, is twisting on itself to discover how this mistake was made.

Was the information so needed, that someone spiked a report to give credence, believability to something that should have read "might be", "best guesses at", "from past experience", "the general pattern of", and "may be rebuilding stockpiles" and on and on.

The real question is, how did so many intelligence analysts, here and abroad, come to the same conclusion if there wasn't hard evidence to support such a positive, unequivocal statement.

While I would hope that the group that Pres. Bush appointed to investigate the intelligence he received would have a clear shot at producing some good conclusions, I'm not sure that any of them are either qualified or cleared (a really BIG problem) to investigate the source information, or the systems from which that source information was extracted.
28 posted on 02/08/2004 8:34:45 PM PST by TruthNtegrity (I refuse to call candidates for President "Democratic" as they are NOT. They are Democrats.)
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To: eyespysomething
Pre 9/11 it was just as important as after that we act, or should have acted. If clinton had done his job and stopped the growth of al-qaeda after Somalia then there would have been no need to find and destroy the numerous cells scattered throughout the world.
The towers would still be standing and the world would be a different and better place now.
Sure hussein might still have been a problem but the absence of the dispursement of terrorists that al-qaeda promotes would have made hussein more containable.
The fact that clinton for whatever reason almost completely failed means the work Bush is doing now is far greater, more difficult than just clean up.
Imagine al-qaeda being stopped in it's infancy in the early 90's before they could build financial and terrorist networks all over the world.
Thanks bill.
29 posted on 02/08/2004 8:37:32 PM PST by chuckwalla
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To: MJY1288
Everything you said is correct. All are good reasons to go to war. Even if there was only ambiguous intel about WMD all the other reasons were more than enough to justify the war. It's just that at times there was rhetorical overreaching by members of the Bush Administration about how certain they were that Saddam had WMD. And now the Dems are taking advatage of it for political gain. I saw a poll on FOX where the American people understand all this. They don't care about the WMD and they know the Dems are driven by politics. They trust that Bush acted in good faith even if his rhetoric was overheated at times.

The public has been very steady in supporting the war and the way Bush has handled it.

30 posted on 02/08/2004 8:38:40 PM PST by DestroytheDemocrats
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To: MJY1288
Great job!

We know liberals don't care about facts, but I wish the Republicans would be pointing out these facts, instead of letting the Dems lies stand, without refuting them.
31 posted on 02/08/2004 8:39:07 PM PST by FairOpinion (If you are not voting for Bush, you are voting for the terrorists.)
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To: BlessedAmerican
I think the President did very well today. If you noticed, Tim (I'm for Kerry) Russert cut President Bush off both times he brought up how he objected to John Kerry's denigration of those who served in the Guard.

If President Bush avoided the badgering questions by Tim (I'm for Kerry) Russert and answered them with talking points, the Press would be all over him for it. The talking points are coming and all John F'n Kerry will be able to is take cover... because the facts hurt, and John F'n Kerry is going to be in a lot of pain :-)

32 posted on 02/08/2004 8:40:23 PM PST by MJY1288 (IF JOHN KERRY IS THE ANSWER, IT MUST BE A STUPID QUESTION)
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To: MJY1288
I'm not so sure that the WMD are in Syria, and I am not in need to know they are there either. The fact that Sadam Hussein himself thought he had WMD, which says that his ruthless tactics made his direct reports probably lie to him, is all I need to know. No intelligence in the world is going to be better than what Hussein himself knows.

When the politicians in Washington start seeing this, then we will know that we are past all this election year nonsense.

33 posted on 02/08/2004 8:41:20 PM PST by AgThorn (Go go Bush!! But don't turn your back on America with "immigrant amnesty")
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To: MJY1288
Look here- Washington Post got it wrong again:

www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A49199-2003Oct31.html

34 posted on 02/08/2004 8:44:42 PM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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To: AgThorn
Those of us here who are political junkies need not to know, but the other 70% of the people who pay little attention to things other than the Headlines need to know. I'm hoping that this subject is debated and researched to its fullest, because I'm confident that this Country and our Cammander-in-Chief did the right thing, and these facts need to be screamed from the rooftops

Thanks for what you said,

Cheers,

Mike

35 posted on 02/08/2004 8:45:38 PM PST by MJY1288 (IF JOHN KERRY IS THE ANSWER, IT MUST BE A STUPID QUESTION)
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To: FairOpinion
I believe it far worse than just trying to make political hay.
If we have to go to war again the whole world will question us vehemently perhaps to the point of stopping any necessary action we need to take.
They didn't question clinton about any of the illegal invasions of actions he took. Kosovo was illegal. He didn't even talk to congress before attacking a country that was not even a threat to it's neighbors let alone us. He went past the war powers limit of 60 days without getting congressional approval. He bombed civilian targets. Even the Chinese embassy.
They didn't raise an eyebrow.
Now the questions and furor they raise are dangerous to our safety.
Do they care?
36 posted on 02/08/2004 8:49:41 PM PST by chuckwalla
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To: MJY1288
Thank you Mike for a great summary.

I think President Bush did touch on these facts at one point or another in his interview today. However, I do think the reason he didn't forcefully say that the WMDs may be in other countries such as Syria is that we really don't know that for sure. Were he to say that with more certainty than he did today, he would be criticized on wanting to pick a fight with Syria.

The bottom line is that I believe the long term vision of freedom and democracy in Iraq and the Middle East is going to vindicate the judgment of President Bush.
37 posted on 02/08/2004 8:53:07 PM PST by cat lover too (I question Tim Russert's patriotism.)
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To: MJY1288
People's (non-conservatives) ideas of what the President's job responsibilities are way out of whack. The President's (as CinC of US Armed Forces) 1st and most important job function is to defend freedom and liberty for all American citizens. If that means lying, so be it.
38 posted on 02/08/2004 8:54:22 PM PST by xrp
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To: MJY1288
Has anyone seen this PBS special saddam’s ultimate solutions http://www.pbs.org/wnet/wideangle/shows/saddam/ , I think the biggest problem is that Bush and the his staff are playing defense, we need to go on offence and really drill it home what kind of danger we could be in if mad men are left unchecked. I would have him and his staff put together presentation similar to this PBS special and break it down point by point just as mjy1288 has laid it out.
39 posted on 02/08/2004 8:55:35 PM PST by dtom
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To: piasa
"Look here- Washington Post got it wrong again"

Well!!!!, One thing is for sure.... The Washington Post is Consistant :-)

40 posted on 02/08/2004 8:57:25 PM PST by MJY1288 (IF JOHN KERRY IS THE ANSWER, IT MUST BE A STUPID QUESTION)
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To: xrp
That's right. Everyone on the left seems to miss that point.
We're at war and deception is part of war.
Imagine telling the Japanese that Doolittle was on the way!
Or being severely criticized for not alerting everyone to which island was to be hit next. Or divulging the Manhatten project, etc.
Or the enemy telling us the truth in anything.
41 posted on 02/08/2004 8:59:44 PM PST by chuckwalla
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To: dtom
President Bush and his team is playing Chess, the democrats are playing Checkers...

We have heard about President Bush being a great Poker Player, Well, as a poker player myself, a good poker player has the ability to convince his opponents that they should bet on their losing hand, right now, the RATS are betting on a losing hand. There is no sense in calling their hand at this point, President Bush needs to wait until they wager all their chips first :-)

42 posted on 02/08/2004 9:05:38 PM PST by MJY1288 (IF JOHN KERRY IS THE ANSWER, IT MUST BE A STUPID QUESTION)
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To: MJY1288
There is abslutely NO ambiguity here, Mike. I'd like any of the 4 or 5 dwarves left to be asked: knowing the intel (as Kerry certainly did) that Dubya received after 9/11 and that Klintoon received for years before, knowing the multiple resolutions and years the UN placated and wouldn't get off their freaking cowardly BUTTOCKEEES to face the threats ... what would THEY do. I'd SALIVATE to hear any of them asked that question, when the survival of our whole country is squarely on their shoulders.

As I've been saying on so many posts ... we know he had them, proof of their destruction has not been produced, he had many nefarious colleagues in other countries, AND Iraq is the size of California!!! In 8 months, every square inch, down maybe 30-40 ft. is able to be tracked with technology or searched? I DON'T think so. As I've been saying, the caveat we need to add to the statement of not finding WMD is .... YET.

Here's some corroboration to the Syria connection .. I'll bet you're right .. Armitage is not very public anyway .. ya couldn't miss the sweet lovable bear .. but we'll never know what Dubya's got going on behind the scenes until it's long passed. AND I like that ... he is a great poker player and outsmarts 'em all .. AND THEY NEVER LEARN!!! LOL .

Ex-inspector says Iraq sent 'lot of material'

Sun, January 25, 2004

(EXCERPT...)

WMD in Syria: Kay

Ex-inspector says Iraq sent 'lot of material'
By AP

LONDON -- David Kay, who recently resigned as leader of a U.S. weapons search team in Iraq, said part of captive president Saddam Hussein's weapons program was hidden in Syria, a report in Britain's Sunday Telegraph newspaper said today. Kay was reported to have said he had uncovered evidence unspecified materials were moved to Syria shortly before last year's U.S. invasion of Iraq.

"We are not talking about a large stockpile of weapons but we know from some of the interrogations of former Iraqi officials that a lot of material went to Syria before the war, including some components of Saddam's WMD (weapons of mass destruction) program," Kay was reported saying in the interview conducted yesterday.

"Precisely what went to Syria and what has happened to it is a major issue that needs to be resolved," he added.

David Kay said Friday that Iraq had no stockpiles of biological and chemical weapons, and Secretary of State Colin Powell said yesterday it was an open question if they'd be found.

A senior U.S. official said yesterday Vice- President Dick Cheney, attending the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland, believed "the jury's still out."

Speaking to reporters as he flew to today's inauguration of Georgian President-elect Mikhail Saakashvili, Powell said: The open question is how many stocks they had, if any, and if they had any, where did they go. And if they didn't have any, then why wasn't that known beforehand?"

Syria has denied pursuing weapons of mass destruction and said the long, porous border with Iraq makes it hard to stop infiltrators.

Last month, U.S. President George W. Bush approved the Syria Accountability and Lebanese Sovereignty Restoration Act, which accuses Syria of hosting Palestinian militant groups, such as Hamas and Jihad, and seeking biological and chemical weapons.

43 posted on 02/08/2004 9:07:50 PM PST by STARWISE (Prayer is miraculous. Pray for those in need + please pray for our brave and vigilant military.)
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To: MJY1288
I think what happened here was pretty simple.

The United States made up its mind that Saddam Hussein was going to be toppled, and the U.S. was going to engage in some long-term nation-building in Iraq.

The rationale behind all that nonsense about WMDs was two-fold:

1. To convince conservatives in this country who are adamantly opposed to U.S. nation-building (much lilke George W. Bush was when he was a presidential candidate in 2000) that it isn't really "nation-building" if we can think up a good reason for it.

2. To secure public support among the same dopey soccer moms in this country who had been infatuated with Bill Clinton for most of the 1990s.

44 posted on 02/08/2004 9:08:31 PM PST by Alberta's Child (Alberta -- the TRUE North strong and free.)
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To: MJY1288
My comments ... the media/press think the President says something and then they run with it .. when the fact is ... the President never said what the media/press is claiming

They have been doing this since President Bush took office

45 posted on 02/08/2004 9:12:54 PM PST by Mo1 (Speaking of Kerry, do we really want a president who injects poison into his skull?)
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To: chuckwalla
They didn't question clinton about any of the illegal invasions of actions he took. Kosovo was illegal. He didn't even talk to congress before attacking a country that was not even a threat to it's neighbors let alone us. He went past the war powers limit of 60 days without getting congressional approval.

Interesting points. Some of us may remember that a number of GOP Congressmen actually filed suit against the Clinton administration in that case, on the grounds that the War Powers Act had been violated.

The suit was thrown out of Federal court, and it's hard to argue with the judge's rationale. He basically said that Congress passed some kind of idiotic "we support the troops" legislation with regard to the troops in the Balkans, and he (the Federal judge) had no way of knowing (and no legal authority to determine) whether that kind of half-assed Congressional resolution amounted to a formal declaration of war.

46 posted on 02/08/2004 9:14:12 PM PST by Alberta's Child (Alberta -- the TRUE North strong and free.)
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To: MJY1288
Your enumeration of the FACTS is quite impressive and clearly states what "SHOULD" be quite formidible proof that GW didn't LIE. However "FACTS" never got in the way of DEMOCRAT spin and their media sychophants.
47 posted on 02/08/2004 9:15:31 PM PST by PISANO (u)
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To: STARWISE
Thanks for that article, I hadn't seen that one before.

I personally feel that John Kerry will be beaten like a rented Mule this fall and all of President Bush's detractors on this subject will have more Egg on their faces than all the Scrambled Eggs that Denny's Breakfast Bar can serve in any given month :-)

48 posted on 02/08/2004 9:16:14 PM PST by MJY1288 (IF JOHN KERRY IS THE ANSWER, IT MUST BE A STUPID QUESTION)
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To: MJY1288
Quietly behind the scenes he has lead the fight against our enemies and has never taken credit for what he and his team has been able to accomplish since September 11th, 2001

This is so true. The dims are doing on a national scale, what Kennedy did to Nixon in the 1960 debate. He attacked Nixon and the Eisenhower adm. over the weapons advantage the Russians had, knowing full well it was false, but also knowing that Nixon could not respond because it was classified information. The dims also know full well the good things that are happening, and are ongoing, but know President Bush will unlike them, put the country first. This will be the dirtiest campaign in recent history, and things are just warming up.

If the people of this country elect Kerry, they will be electing a gigolo, that will do Klaus von Bulow proud.

49 posted on 02/08/2004 9:19:33 PM PST by woodyinscc
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To: Alberta's Child
I meant that the demrats didn't say anything.
Are you joking in post #44? Being sarcastic to prove a point?
50 posted on 02/08/2004 9:21:15 PM PST by chuckwalla
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