NORTH CAROLINA WELCOMES TERRORISTS

2-9-04 | Judson Cox

[conservativejud]

I always thought North Carolina was a conservative state. Sure, we have some fairly large cities, and plenty of liberal universities, but North Carolina is southern. Our state is mostly comprised of small towns that really are like “Mayberry” from the old “Andy Griffith Show.” We go to church, say sir and ma’am and can identify our third cousin twice removed. Our state is home to country musicians such as Lester Flatt, Doc Watson, Charlie Daniels and Randy Travis, and political leaders like Sen. Jesse Helms. Last week, I found out that North Carolina is more liberal than California!

State Senator (and Gubernatorial candidate) Fern Shubert, informed me that North Carolina has issued nearly 400,000 driver’s licenses to illegal immigrants with no social security number! She showed me an article in The New York Times, reporting that, “The D.M.V. in North Carolina, where illegal immigrants from the states on the Eastern seaboard go to get their drivers’ licenses, is aware of its role, said Wayne J. Hurder, North Carolina’s director of driver’s license certification.” (The New York Times, 3/2/2003)

South Carolina’s Attorney General has asked US Attorney General John Ashcroft to require airlines to refuse to accept licenses from NC for boarding planes. Again, Wayne Hurder said, "Our job is not to force compliance with immigration laws." NC issues licenses to anyone possessing an, Individual Taxpayer Identification Number. “The IRS recently sent letters to all 50 governors, asking them to instruct their motor vehicles agencies not to accept the ITINs.” (Washington Times, 9-7-03) The government of North Carolina cares nothing for the laws of our nation, or the security of American citizens.

Given California’s reaction to this issue, Democratic Governor Mike Easley should be quaking in his political boots. However, most North Carolinians are unaware that their state is issuing licenses to illegal immigrants! NC’s news outlets serve as little more than lap dogs for an increasingly corrupt Democratic machine (www.ncgop.org “Corruption Watch”). Their scant coverage is necessitated by the lines of non-English speaking immigrants flooding out of DMV’s all over the state, the incredible boom of the illegal immigrant population and the arrest of three Pakistanis who were trying to use phony ID info to get "valid" NC driver’s licenses.

The controversy finally forced the Governor to, “announce new security measures and procedures that will assist the DMV in preventing driver license fraud.” (Raleigh News & Observer, 12-31-03) However, Wayne Hurder, has clearly stated “the fact that a person is in the United States without the permission of the Department of Homeland Security (formerly INS) is irrelevant as far as North Carolina DMV is concerned, as per NCGS 20-7 and NCGS 4.01.”

Sen. Shubert replied (press release, 1-21-04), “North Carolina law, which cannot be changed by DMV but requires legislative action, permits the use of Individual Taxpayer Identification Numbers (ITINs) that are worthless from a security standpoint… Even if DMV changes the documentation accepted to prove residency next month, the law says DMV must permit the issuance of a license even if the applicant has no documentation other than an ITIN provided they swear or affirm an affidavit.”

Most North Carolinians will never see Sen. Shubert’s press release. As a prominent member of the Raleigh, NC press corps explained to Sen. Shubert regarding a related education issue, “We will not cover it, because our readers are not intelligent enough to understand it.” This attitude earned that “journalist” a high paying position in the Easley administration! Hundreds of thousands of illegals register to vote in North Carolina, ensuring that Easley and his Democratic cronies stay in power, while North Carolina’s news outlets turn a colluding eye.

American soldiers are risking their lives in foreign countries to protect our homeland. This is the ultimate slap in the face to our brave men and women who are willing to make the ultimate sacrifice. This is a national security issue; state-issued photo identification provides unrestricted access to most U.S. air and ground transportation systems and entry to public buildings! I urge my readers to learn more about this issue; visit www.forfern.com. If each of my readers will contact their local news outlets, as well as Fox News, CNN, MSNBC and the national newspapers, we can get coverage. Along with the Foundation for Conservative American Values (www.fcav.latest-info.com), I will make every effort to make myself available to be interviewed on this issue; contact me at: conservativejud@yahoo.com

JUDSON COX Judson Cox is a political columnist from the mountains of North Carolina. He is quickly gaining recognition as one of the most popular and influential voices of his generation. As a college student, and Director of Communication for the Foundation for Conservative American Values, he has a unique perspective on matters of politics, economics and culture. His fiercely independent style and pugilistic wit make for a column that is always entertaining, often inspiring and frequently "laugh out loud" funny. With a humor akin to P.J. O'Rourke and Dave Barry, and a plain spoken southern wisdom that matches Charlie Daniels, his confrontational style lies somewhere between Ann Coulter and Merle Haggard.

[Sunshine Sister]

To the fine folks in North Carolina. Are you going to confront this? I sincerely hope so. Those of us with a political voice in Kansas are doing everything we can to stop our PC governor from doing the same thing here. Good luck to all of you!

[gonewt]

Hey, if they think the terrorists will vote for higher taxes, the Dems will probably gerrymander districts for them.

[truth_seeker]

"Given California’s reaction to this issue, Democratic Governor Mike Easley should be quaking in his political boots. However, most North Carolinians are unaware that their state is issuing licenses to illegal immigrants!"

California had and has a recall procedure, for times like this.

Does North Carolina? Governor? Legislature? DMV administration?

Heads roll, and laws/regulations can be CHANGED.

[Dubya]

I just sent this out by email to my NC friends.
Dub

[olde north church]

During the "Dark Ages" , English monks nailed the skins of Vikings to the doors of monasteries, churches, and castles. They would also hang the skinned bodies on poles near shoreline as a deterrent to others.
I don't know if that's legal anymore but it could be food for thought.
Also, this whole thing with the automatic citizenship simply be birth in American is an inverse Trojan horse.
Finally, hospitals, etc that didn't report illegal aliens should lose government funding.
Just some topics for discussion.

[FreedomCalls]

But as a libertarian I should oppose the requirement to give a Social Security number to get a driver's license should I not? I should support a state that allows another number to be used instead right?

[fatidic]

Fran Shubert for governor! She is really spunky, sharp with great conservative principles, very sincere, a real straight shooter.

[Between the Lines]

Interesting article but... the rules did change last week as part of the "Operation Stop Fraud" program. Under the new rules, license applicants will need two forms of ID and a document showing that they live in North Carolina.

Unacceptable forms of ID will include expired licenses, individual tax identification numbers and licenses and other identification cards issued by the Mexican government -- including the popular matricula consular, an identity card issued by the government through its consulates.

Approved identification will include valid licenses from other states or Canada, Social Security cards, valid immigration papers and state vehicle registration or title certificates.

Latino groups try to block new N.C. DMV license requirement

[Joe Hadenuf]

Sad, a friend of mine lives in North Carolina, he tells me many parts are now resembling Tijuana Mexico.....

[Between the Lines]

On the plus side, 10 years ago you couldn't get good Mexican food here, now there are many great Mexican restaurants.

[TaxRelief]

NC *Ping*

Let me, or MYkdsmom, or Constitution Day know if you want on or off the NCPing list or if you think you've been accidentally dropped or ....

They expect us to solve this problem, and we know that our corrupt government won't do anything to help a Republican President unless he promises them a favor of some sort...

[Servant of the 9]

“The IRS recently sent letters to all 50 governors, asking them to instruct their motor vehicles agencies not to accept the ITINs.”

I am living in North Carolina, and the only hope I see is to get the Feds to freeze all federal money headed to NC for any purpose till the law is changed and the DMV complies.

If the Feds stopped the money I think that would take about 2 hours.

So9

[Lee'sGhost]

I feel sorry for my native state.

[philetus]

North Carolina - El Norte Carolina

With the Blue Ridge mountains to the west and the beaches of the Outer Banks to the east, North Carolina has suddenly become The Destination for new Latino immigrants. Since the last census, the Triangle (and Raleigh’s Wake County in particular) has experienced a nearly 500 percent increase in its Hispanic population of mostly Mexicans. It started with the economic boom of the ’90s and huge demands for unskilled labor in the construction, poultry and meat-processing, and hospitality industries. That’s transforming what used to be a black-white duopoly into an increasingly diverse area. Of the Triangle’s 1,031,600 residents, about 5 percent are Hispanic. That sounds tiny, but the area’s receiving 10,000 new arrivals annually.

http://www.latinoforum.com/archives/000353.html

[TaxRelief]

We have no power until a regular election, and then only the "corrupt ones" or the "party chosen one" (the party power- group never chooses a candidate with strength or a moral backbone) can raise any money.

For instance, Fern is running for Governor, but she has no hope against the money boys who "know how to play the game" (the same game that has been played for a century). She has only raised $10K dollars.

http://www.democracy-nc.org/moneyresearch/index.html

[TaxRelief]

They are already being sued, and the rules change will not stand up in court, unless they make some legislative changes.

[Joe Hadenuf]

On the plus side, 10 years ago you couldn't get good Mexican food here, now there are many great Mexican restaurants.

Lets see, North Carolina is being over run with illegal 3rd worlders and your concerned about buying a taco?

Good Lord.....

[wimpycat]

Yeah, but a lot of them are "going native". They're becoming Evangelicals and Pentacostals. They have bumper stickers that say "Yo (heart) Jesus." Of course, I have no way of knowing, just like anybody else, which Hispanics are illegal and which are not, just by looking at them.

I'm glad they changed that DMV rule, though. I don't think an illegal with a driver's license is any "safer" than one without a license. (That was one of the arguments the activists used to try to prevent the rule change. That the highways would be safer if we gave driver's licenses to illegal immigrants.)

[TaxRelief]

It is so sad. It is almost overwhelming.

[wimpycat]

Actually, it's Carolina del Norte. Jeez, they can't even speak proper Spanish.

[Joe Hadenuf]

I feel sorry for my native state.

North Carolina is just following many other states. You can thank the Federal Government. That is the root of this insanity.

[vaudine]

Ever read the story of Esau and Isaac? I love Mexican food, but am not willing to sell my birthright for it. I can make it myself.

vaudine

[Joe Hadenuf]

Of course, I have no way of knowing, just like anybody else, which Hispanics are illegal and which are not, just by looking at them.

Here's a clue for you, if you see 40 year old Mexican's riding childrens bicycles, or driving totally beat up cars with expired tags, most only speaking Spanish, and neighborhoods going southbound, ERs full of Spanish speakers with colds and flu, instead of using a private doctor, it's a good chance they are illegals.....This isn't rocket science.

[philetus]

Family Values don't stop at the border

http://www.americanpatrol.com/REFERENCE/FamilyValuesLink.html

[philetus]

CRIME VICTIMS OF ILLEGAL ALIENS

http://www.immigrationshumancost.org/text/crimevictims.html

[Between the Lines]

North Carolina is being over run with illegal 3rd worlders and your concerned about buying a taco?

Toco nothing.... barbacoa, chilies relienos, chimichangas and a good carne asada are more what I have in mind. And someplace to get fresh menudo and chorizo for breakfast. I wrote off NC along time ago, I live south of the border.

I did not think I needed it in my first reply to you but here it is this time. < /humor >

[TomasUSMC]

Face the Facts.

We have had since 1980, 4 Republican Presidents, serving close to 16 years in the White House. Even now, during wartime, our Republican President not only refuse to secure our border but he campaigns against securing our border and unbelievebly encourage Illegals to come take all the jobs the Americanos "won't fill".

So lets not worry about our country being overrun. Neither the Republican or Democratic party want to stop it. In fact, they encourage it.

You want to talk about a wasted vote. There it is. If you want secured borders and controlled immigration, voting will not get you anything of the sort. It might get you tax cuts, a winning war on terror in the middle east, but it will not stop an invasion of our country. Why?

Why if this country can do all these great things will we not protect our borders, at least, in a time of war?
Please tell us why Mr. President.

[TaxRelief]

Here's an interesting report http://www.commoncause.org/publications/nc_tobacco_charts.pdf

[philetus]

FLYERS TELL WHITES TO GET OUT OF CALIFORNIA

February 16, 2000 (VCT) -- Flyers are appearing in the San Fernando Valley demanding that whites get out of AZTLAN. Glenn Spencer of American Patrol said the flyers came from a student in the Los Angeles Unified School District. Asked how he knew, he said: Easy, the flyer reads --- THIS IS ARE LAND ---and any fool knows that LAUSD students can't spell.

[Joe Hadenuf]

Toco nothing.... barbacoa, chilies relienos, chimichangas and a good carne asada are more what I have in mind.

Dog food.

[Between the Lines]

Dog food.

Racist.

[Joe Hadenuf]

Yes, this racist prefers Prime Rib, smoked Pacific Salmon and BBQ Ribs....Something that don't look like a small aircraft crashed on my plate.

[ApplegateRanch]

Wha'chya gots against dogs, meester??? Ain't youse hooman, thats ya hates man's best friend, feedin' him that stuff?

[ApplegateRanch]

Yessir; a real racist...loves Amerind food instead of Mexican, though the prime rib could also be considered European.

As far a plane crash on a plate, when was the last time anyone looked at a pizza, as opposed to simply scarfing it?

Food preferences don't a racist make, unless one is using Frenchmen as the source for his fried frogs' legs.

But let's leave the dogs out of it; human food is far from the best diet for them.

[olde north church]

The thing that really cracks me up is they think it's the land and not the people that makes California great. Typical liberal thought process. Let them take California and they'll be crossing the border into Oregon and Idaho!
(yeah, yeah, I know about Arizona, Neveda, etc, but they are all ready crossing into there)

[philetus]

I got a reply to an email I sent to N. Carolina.
Check out the site.


You quoted some article:
>I always thought North Carolina was a conservative state. Sure, >we have some fairly large cities, and plenty of liberal >universities, but North Carolina is southern.

The truth is that Bush won this state's urban areas. Like it or not, the only - few - counties Algore won were dirt-poor black counties and the "college town" counties of Orange and Durham. Only the state-capital county (Wake) - full of bureaucrats - was an exception to this rule. Bush won this state's big-city counties - Mecklenburg, Guilford, Forsyth.

>State Senator (and Gubernatorial candidate) Fern Shubert, >informed me that North Carolina has issued nearly 400,000 >driver’s licenses to illegal immigrants with no social security >number!

This was a major question of my shooting buddy - how many illegals got licensed before DMV just slammed the lid on it.

>She showed me an article in The New York Times, reporting >that, “The D.M.V. in North Carolina, where illegal immigrants >from the states on the Eastern seaboard go to get their drivers’ >licenses,

DMV has effectively ended this as of a week ago. As of 2/2, matriculas and other Mexican IDs no longer will get you a license in this state. Nor will an ITIN. This change is due to DMV being embarrassed by my county's sheriff into it; he - repeatedly - busted dozens of illegals at DMV getting licenses.
Illegals - particularly the ones from other states illegally getting licenses here - are just not likely to be able to get a license in this state anymore.
Matt Maggio, Editor and Publisher,
Alamance Independent,
America's most politically-incorrect newspaper
http://www.alamanceind.com

[Joe Hadenuf]

Uh, sure, right....

[azhenfud]

I believe those changes will stand, and already have withstood the first round of attempted injunctions. NCDMV can decide which documents it accepts as proof of residency, I believe, was the conclusion to the first suits, IIRC.

[TaxRelief]

That is good news. Now what happens to all those who have already gotten an illegal licence?

[azhenfud]

I'd like to see an ad campaign in the public notice sections of newspapers warning that, say after June 30, the names and particulars of incidents of those who are suspected of hiring and aiding Illegaliens will be published in the local papers and fowarded to the USCIS office in Charlotte or Atlanta.

I think, if a similar program could get statewide support, those Illegaliens with DL's might migrate elsewhere...

[yoe]

As a prominent member of the Raleigh, NC press corps explained to Sen. Shubert regarding a related education issue, “We will not cover it, because our readers are not intelligent enough to understand it.” This attitude earned that “journalist” a high paying position in the Easley administration! Hundreds of thousands of illegals register to vote in North Carolina, ensuring that Easley and his Democratic cronies stay in power, while North Carolina’s news outlets turn a colluding eye.

Whooeee, them's fight'en words...........I'm putting my money on the grit and guts of conservative Tar Heels.

[conservativejud]

Let me make clear, there has been no substantive change in the law. These changes must be made by the state legislature. Thegovernor merely issue a statement saying in effect, it's done, don't bug me any more. Nothing has been done! I appreciate y'all's comments, but what I need is for you all to email your news outlets and politicians!

[Lurking in Kansas]

I feel sorry for my native state.

DITTO!

When I go back to visit my parents and family I notice how much my state changes each year. The real change started about 25 years ago when all the Yankees started really pouring in... *sigh*

[Lee'sGhost]

"The real change started about 25 years ago when all the Yankees started really pouring in... *sigh*"

Yeah, we're almost as bad as Virginia, now.

[Lurking in Kansas]

Yeah, we're almost as bad as Virginia, now.

Ouch! LOL! Get ready for incoming...

[Rebelbase]

"Sad, a friend of mine lives in North Carolina, he tells me many parts are now resembling Tijuana Mexico....."

10 years ago a lead carpenter on a buidling site could command $13.50-15.00+/hr. around here....thats not much, but now those jobs are held by illegals at $8.00/hr which destroyed the wage rate.

It was the no documentation driver's liscence that brought them all here.

[Joe Hadenuf]

10 years ago a lead carpenter on a buidling site could command $13.50-15.00+/hr. around here....thats not much, but now those jobs are held by illegals at $8.00/hr which destroyed the wage rate.

Our own government is destroying this country.....

[mgcman99]

Our government isn't the ones destroying this country. Its the American people that make it possible for immigrants to come in and find a job to begin with. With each American on welfare and drawing unemployment. there is a illegal immigrant there to take up the slack. Wake up America and take a stand, get off your lazy asses and take the jobs back that lure the immigrants here to begin with.