Posted on 02/09/2004 7:28:26 PM PST by Jomini
In 1999, U.S. presidential candidate George Bush spoke for much of the American right when he warned the Russians that they "need to resolve the dispute (with the Chechens) peaceably and not be bombing women and children and causing huge numbers of refugees to flee Chechnya."[1] If the Russians did not stop their brutal second war against the Chechens, which had begun in the fall of 1999, Bush threatened to cut off IMF and Export-Import Bank loans to the former superpower that the Republican right, led by Senator Jesse Helms, still saw as a dangerous manifestation of the USSR.
In 1999 the Chechen insurgents were typically portrayed in the United States as Afghan-style "freedom fighters" engaged in a heroic David-versus-Goliath struggle against the neo-Russian imperium. The anti-Russian Chechen resistance was hardly viewed as a component of Osama bin Laden's "World Islamic Front for Jihad Against Jews and Crusaders," which had been formed to expel the United States from Saudi Arabia in 1998. Condoleeza Rice, the future president's National Security Advisor, best summed up the Bush administration's views of the Chechens when she announced that "not every Chechen is a terrorist and the Chechens' legitimate aspirations for a political solution should be pursued by the Russian government." [2]
Such sentiments were not limited to the American right. Zbigniew Brzezinski, Democratic President Jimmy Carter's influential National Security Advisor, similarly said of the Second Russo-Chechen War: "What should be done? To start with the U.S. should not fall for Russia's entreaty that 'we are allies against Osama bin Laden'...Terrorism is neither the geopolitical nor moral challenge here (in Chechnya)." [3]
Fast-forward two years later to the aftermath of al Qaeda's kamikaze attack on the United States. As the domestically focused Bush administration surveyed Eurasia through the new prism of the global war on terror, the Chechen resistance, whose objectives (that is, national self-determination of the sort achieved by the Baltic states) were once looked upon with a degree of tacit sympathy by the Bush administration, was suddenly discovered to be in league with the "evil ones" responsible for 9/11.
In a volte-face that stunned the moderate Chechen leadership of President Aslan Maskhadov, a pragmatic leader known for his struggle to crush Islamic extremists attempting to infiltrate his own republic, President Bush now declared that "Arab terrorists" linked to Osama bin Laden's al Qaeda organization were operating on Chechen territory and ought to be "brought to justice." [4]. U.S. Secretary of State Colin Powell went a step further and proclaimed "Russia is fighting terrorists in Chechnya, there is no question about that, and we understand that." [5]
This reassessment in Washington was only the beginning of a process that would ultimately see the secular Chechen Sufi-mystics reconfigured by the Western press into a foaming-at-the-mouth, globe-trotting nation of al Qaeda super terrorists. The Chechens, a Sovietized nation of moderate Muslims that arguably knew the words of Marx better than Muhammad, are now suspected of being tied to Wahhabi-fundamentalist Arabs at war with the West and modernity. In the process, the Western media and government officials began the character assassination of an entire nation, one that had no previous history of animosity toward the United States or the West.
Most notably, as the United States launched Operation Enduring Freedom in an effort to destroy al Qaeda's training bases in the Taliban's Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan, Chechen-watchers and specialists on conflict and ethnicity in the Caucasus were stunned to hear a variety of newly discovered media "talking heads" matter-of-factly proclaim that, in Afghanistan, the United States and Coalition soldiers were confronting hordes of Chechens. Those who had intimately followed the progression of the first Russo-Chechen War (1994-96) and the descent into an increasingly senseless second Russian quagmire in Chechnya could not contain their shock at the veritable barrage of glib media accounts of Chechens fighting on behalf of the Pashtun-Taliban theocracy/al Qaeda terrorist organization in distant Afghanistan.
If one were to swallow uncritically the "expert" testimony of the media "pundits," the outgunned Army of the Chechen Republic of Ichkeria (currently considered by Russian sources to consist of 1,200 mountain fighters engaged in a life-and-death struggle with 80,000 Russian Federal troops) had somehow developed the logistic capacity (and the desire) to project "hundreds" of apparently unneeded fighters across Eurasia and through American-controlled air space over Afghanistan to defend illiterate Pashtun-Deobandi-Taliban puritans.
Specialists on Afghanistan were as bewildered as Chechnya experts by this blitz of media accounts referring to the important role that Chechens were suddenly playing in the doomed Pashtun-Taliban regime's defense of its puritanical "religious concentration camp." Afghan watchers were quite familiar with the Taliban's increasing reliance on the al Qaeda's "International Islamic Brigade" (that is, the 055 Brigade, a shock unit made up of Uzbek extremists from the Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan, Arab jihadis, and Pakistani militants), but no Afghan experts had ever heard of Chechens serving so far from home in the Taliban's increasingly costly spring offensives against the anti-Taliban Northern Alliance. While Juma Namangani's Uzbek extremist-jihadis (members of the Northern Afghanistan-based Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan), as well as Arabs (who had openly fought and trained in Afghanistan as mujahideen volunteers and al Qaeda terrorists), and Pakistani Pashtuns from the neighboring North West Frontier Province all had a long and widely documented presence in Taliban-controlled Afghanistan...the Chechen highlanders were encircled in the far away Caucasus by Russian Federation forces and were completely unknown to the Afghans.
Despite the commonsensical queries that should have arisen in the western media surrounding the unsubstantiated rumors of Chechens appearing in Afghanistan as "die-hard al Qaeda fighters," no one in the industry questioned these wild claims in the winter of 2001-2002.
As the "dots were connected" between the Taliban and the Chechens, the western rumor mill also began to speak of the Chechen separatists' nefarious involvement in the global struggle of al Qaeda. On any given moment one could turn on the television and see newly discovered "experts," with no field expertise in Afghanistan or Chechnya, blithely predicting that a cornered Osama bin Laden (an Arab-speaking Wahhabi) would somehow find refuge in the "wild lands of the Islamic militants" of Chechnya (an inaccessible republic encircled by an 80,000-man Russian occupation army).
As the war on terrorism unfolded, uninformed American television audiences were confidently told that Chechens were involved in every manner of al Qaeda global mischief and mayhem, from acting as "white-skinned European-looking Al Qaeda infiltrator-hijackers" (a remarkable achievement for a swarthy, dark-haired Caucasian mountain nation known to the Russians by their racist epithet as cheorny--"niggers"), to providing al Qaeda with ricin chemical laboratories in the rugged mountains of Chechnya and neighboring Georgia (ricin is of course one of the most unstable biological weapons and requires advanced technology and facilities to manufacture). Since the American public discovered the various ethnic groups of Eurasia in the aftermath of 9/11 a veritable Chechen rumor industry has emerged. This would be laughable were it not for the fact that the Chechens, a nation undergoing horrible crimes against humanity at the hands of the brutal Russian Federation forces, are being misconstrued as nation of ubiquitous al Qaeda ethno-terrorists.
This author has taken great pleasure in collecting particularly preposterous examples of this genre of outlandish media accounts, examples that serve to demonstrate the ways in which the Western press has inadvertently played into the hands of the Russian Federation's "agitprop" spin-meisters. Below are some of my favorites:
--Earlier this month, Russian military sources were quoted as saying that they had intercepted Chechen rebel communications indicating that "mercenaries" fighting in Chechnya were heading to Afghanistan to fight on behalf of the Taliban and that "several hundred" Chechens were already fighting there alongside 3,000-4,000 Arabs and 5,000-7,000 Pakistanis. (Secondhand account critically assessed in the Jamestown Foundation's Monitor, Vol. 7, Issue 216, Nov. 26, 2001.)
--Al-Watan reported that bin Laden had obtained nuclear material from his Chechen contacts. Reportedly, al Qaeda's Chechen branch paid the Russian mafia US$30 million in cash and two tons of opium in exchange for warhead materials that could be used in the making of a "suitcase nuke." (Mark Riebling and R.P. Eddy, "Jihad@Work. Behind the Moscow-Theater Attack." National Review Preview. March 24, 2003.)
--According to Yossef Bodansky, director of the U.S Congress Task Force on Terrorism and Unconventional Warfare, the war in Chechnya had been planned during a secret summit of Hizballah International held in Mogadishu, Somalia. The summit was attended by Osama bin Laden and high ranking Iranian and Pakistani intelligence officers. In this regard the involvement of Pakistan's ISI in Chechnya "goes far beyond supplying the Chechens with weapons and expertise: the ISI and its radical Islamic proxies are actually calling the shots in the war." (Levon Sevunts, "Who's Calling the Shots? Chechen Conflict Finds Islamic Roots in Afghanistan and Pakistan, The Gazette, Montreal, October 26, 1999.)
--It is estimated that a total of 8,000 Chechens fought in Afghanistan and most of them died at their posts covering the retreats from Bagram, Mazar-i-Sharif and other cities. ("Friendless Chechens shield Taliban despite vast differences in beliefs," Straight Goods, Ken Hechtman, March 15, 2002.)
--Antiterrorist police have focused on an alleged Algerian-dominated network whose operatives are believed to have received specialized training with biological and chemical weapons at al Qaida camps in the Russian republic of Chechnya. ("French Believe Poison is tied to al Qaeda Plots," St. Petersburg Times, March 23, 2002.)
My personal all time favorite, however, has to be the following account:
--The U.S. Customs Service issued a bulletin late last week urging law enforcement to be on the lookout for two possible Chechen terrorists who may try to enter the United States through Mexico, then travel to Montana. ("Are Chechen terrorists headed for Montana?" Chris Vlasto, ABC News.)
A google search on "Chechens in Afghanistan" or "Chechens al Qaeda" will bring up hundreds of such nonsensical media hits which would seem to indicate that the Chechen chimera has the potential to send 8,000 (sic) "white skinned" mafia-hijackers armed with suitcase nukes, opium, and biological weapons to Montana to do the evil bidding of Hezbollah (an Arab Shiite organization at war with Israel), the Pakistani ISI, and al Qaeda. Truly an extraordinary global feat for an out-gunned insurgent movement of 1,200 clan-based fighters engaged in a desperate guerilla war against the powerful Russian Federation.
In light of such seemingly preposterous accusations one would expect the media to engage in some investigatory research on the Chechens. In particular, the question that begs to be asked in this frenzied climate is "have the Chechens really taken on the struggle of al Qaeda and the (neo)Taliban as their own?" Is there any shred of evidence to support the claims made above? If "hundreds" or "thousands" of Chechens were, or still are, involved in the Afghan theater and in the atomized al Qaeda movement's global plots, then surely one Chechen fighter/terrorist would have been apprehended, photographed, interviewed, or killed in Afghanistan...or in the breakup of al Qaeda cells world wide.
If there is no proof to substantiate these claims, then this lack of evidence should surely lead to some critical reassessments by the U.S. and allied Coalition governments. Sadly, to date the U.S. government has not launched an in-depth probe into this issue. The Chechens remain a strange new al Qaeda bogey that mysteriously emerged on 9/11 to serve as elusive "super-terrorists" in an Arab megalomaniac's "jihad against the Crusaders and Zionists."
Fortunately, several reliable eyewitnesses (with expertise in both Chechen and Afghan affairs of the sort glaringly absent among the "talking head pundits" rolled out by the Western media after 9/11) have carried out bona fide searches for the mysterious Chechen specters in Afghanistan (though not yet Montana).
Among those to visit and interview hundreds of foreign prisoners of war captured by the anti-Taliban Northern Alliance in Northern Afghanistan was Robert Young Pelton, a veteran combat reporter. Pelton, who had spent time in the trenches with the Chechen separatists during the Russian siege of Grozny (winter 1999), made his way to Mazar-i-Sharif in search of Chechen fighters, many of whom he may well have expected to know personally. Although Pelton soon discovered scores of Arabs, Uzbeks, Pakistanis, and even one American among the al Qaeda 055 Brigade/Taliban prisoners of war, he encountered no Chechens. For his part, Johnny Walker Lindh (a.k.a. "the American Taliban"), a uniquely qualified source who actually served as a Taliban foot soldier in Mazar-i-Sharif and Kunduz, told Pelton "Here, in Afghanistan, I haven't seen any Chechens."
Carlotta Gall, another correspondent with first hand experience in Chechnya, also went to Afghanistan in search of Chechens and came up empty handed. She had the following to say on the existence of Chechens among the 3,500 al Qaeda/Taliban POWs held by the Northern Alliance at Shiberghan in Afghanistan:
More than 2,000 of the prisoners are Afghans, of whom only the commanders will probably be of interest to the United States. More than 700 are Pakistanis, with smaller numbers from other countries of the Islamic world; Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Yemen, Sudan, Morocco, Iraq, the Muslim republics of Russia, and the countries of Central Asia. Despite assertions by the Afghans that there were many people from Russia's separatist Chechnya region fighting for the Taliban, there is not one Chechen among the prisoners. [6]
A breakdown of the nationalities of the Taliban/al Qaeda "illegal combatant detainees" subsequently taken by the American military for interrogation in Camps X-Ray and Delta, Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, supports these first hand accounts that unanimously dismiss the notion of Chechens in Afghanistan. While the American military eventually captured and took to Cuba over 680 suspected Al Qaeda foot soldiers/terrorists from more than forty-two countries (most of whom were Arabs, Pakistanis, Uzbeks, and Afghans), not one Chechen was detained by U.S. forces in Afghanistan.
The question that begs to be asked if the facts on the ground flatly refute the existence of the Chechens in Afghanistan is "How did the legend of the Chechens fighting for the Taliban and al Qaeda in Afghanistan come to have such currency in America after 9/11 that it shaped U.S. foreign policy towards the Russian Federation and Chechnya in subsequent months?" The second part of this paper will critically analyze the history of Chechen links to Afghanistan and al Qaeda and trace the history of the Russian government's surprisingly successful efforts to conflate its war against nationalist insurgents in Chechnya to the Coalition's war against global Islamic terrorism.
FOOTNOTES: 1. For an analysis of the White House's changing post-9/11 perceptions of the Chechens see my forthcoming article, "From Secessionist 'Rebels' to 'Al Qaeda Shock Brigades.' Critically Assessing Russia's Efforts to Extend the Post-September 11th War on Terror to Chechnya." Comparative Studies on South Asia, Africa, and the Middle East, vol. 23, no. 2. 2003; Michael McFaul, "U.S. Foreign Policy and Chechnya," The Century Foundation, March 2003, p. 22, http://reports.stanleyfoundation.org/EAIrussiaB03p.pdf . 2. Ibid. p. 26. 3. Zbigniew Brzezinski "Why The West Should Care About Chechnya," Wall Street Journal, November 10, 1999. 4. "Western Leaders Re-evaluate Their Stance on the Chechen War," Jamestown Foundation Monitor, September 27, 2001. 5. Thomas de Waal, "Greetings from Grozny," PBS, Wide Angle, http://www.pbs.org/wnet/wideangle/shows/chechnya/briefing.html. See also, Ambassador Stephen Minikes, "Statement on Chechnya, " OSCE, Vienna, June 6, 2002, http://www.usosce.rpo.at/archive/2002/06/06chechnya.htm . 6. Carlotta Gall, "Fighters were lured to Afghanistan by Islam, Holy War, and Promise of Escape," New York Times, January 1, 2002.
Dr. Brian Glyn Williams is assistant professor of Islamic History at the University of Massachusetts-Dartmouth
What I am learning is how the western press has been misled by "the Russian Federation's agitprop spinmeisters" according to this article. The article is long but I believe offers a contrary view to much of the venom that has been spewed in this forum since last week's escalation of the war.
I would be interested in substantive dialogues and comments in this forum concerning this issue. It appears the so-called "al Qaeda-Chechen connection" is nothing more than a revisionist myth.
If that is the case one must wonder why so much time and money is going into misleading the American public during an election year.
Westerby
How long do you think that's going to last for?
I have started my education about the war between Chechnya and the Russian Federation and I have learned many things.
First of all you are right, the KGB is inactive. I was wrong and they are now called the FSS. These are the people who round up Chechen males and send them to concentration camps or sometimes execute them without a trial.
I have also learned Chechens have been fighting Russia for over 150 years. This makes me think it is not about terrorism but a long-term nationalist battle.
I also learned Mr Stalin deported hundreds of thousand of Chechens from their homelands in the 1950s and sent them to Siberia. I can see where some people would be upset about this and want to fight back even if odds are long and fight is tough.
I also see where the Chechen Army defeats small Russian units every day. A man from the AP named Yuri Bagrov writes about this a couple times a week. I would post the article here but I don't want to be assassinated by FSS like Mr Fusion was.
On another post you equated the KKK with people from North Carolina. I don't think that is fair or appropriate in the 21st century. As a foreigner you are not expected to be aware of these things, but in America some people see that kind of thinking as racist.
Westerby
Well you obviously have not learned much or well. Keep trying. We have years and years on you, but you can eventually get it. I hope.
Wahabi scum = wahabi scum = wahabi scum.
Des, where was that thread on the new Saudi taking Khattab's place?
You still have a LOT to learn, JOM, but I am willing to help you.
"The introduction of Khattab into the Caucasus region can explain not only the rise of the SPIR, but also two other Chechen terror groups--the Islamic International Brigade (IIB) and Riyadus-Salikhin Reconnaissance and Sabotage Battalion of Chechen Martyrs. All three groups — loosely formed and interconnected — were intimately involved in the Moscow hostage crisis, sharing fighters, weapons, and tactics. According to press reports, this was due to Khattab and bin Laden’s shared desire in 1995 to “create one Muslim nation on the Caucasus under fundamentalist rule.” Subsequently, millions of dollars per month were funneled into the region to fund this initiative, and shortly there after, Chechens began receiving terror training in Afghanistan as well as indoctrination of the Wahabbi creed in various “learning centers” across Chechnya . Some reports suggest as many as 1,000 recruits passed through these centers during this time. It was these events that were the impetus for the radical Chechen movements of today, such as the SPIR, IIB, and Riyadus-Salikhin."
Jihadists come to my country, the USA, spray my people with exploding jet fuel, at more than 2000 degrees forcing my people from the windows of a 110 story building, sending my people to a splattering death on NYC pavement, only to have their burned splattered bodies pummeled under millions of tons of twisted concrete and steel, and to watch their family identify their flecks and fingernails at a place called fresh-kills.
When Putin says:
"Russia doesn't conduct negotiations with terrorists -- it destroys them,"
All I can say is: "How can I help?"
I learned long ago that there is no such thing as nations, only interests. The interest that is attempting to confiscate a piece of Russia is the same interest that declared war on my country on 9/11, and their going to loose, in this lifetime, or next.
I hope you find the above simple truth to be enlightening and educational.
Same link as my post above...
Me, I am willing to help supply all the toilets needed for Putin to take out the chechens.
"Abu-al-Walid al-Ghamidi, 36, has been identified by the FSB, the Russian intelligence service, as one of the most powerful figures in the Chechen rebel leadership. As the commander of several hundred Arabs fighting alongside the rebels, he is thought to have been responsible for a wave of suicide bomb attacks that have killed more than 200 people in just over a year."
"Walid, a follower of the Wahhabi sect that dominates worship in Saudi Arabia, signalled the determination of Chechen extremists to take their war against the Kremlin to Russian soil when he broadcast a statement from the republic last year on Al-Jazeera, the Arab television network. “If operations in Chechnya continue they will harm Chechen people, so we have decided to export operations inside Russia,” declared Walid, a bearded man with long black hair who wore a uniform and spoke against the backdrop of a Chechen flag."
Gee now why is Al Jazeera broadcasting pro-chechen speeches by Saudis. Hmm, I wonder if there is a connection between all the islamic terrorists of the world?
These are the people who round up Chechen males and send them to concentration camps or sometimes execute them without a trial. I have also learned Chechens have been fighting Russia for over 150 years. This makes me think it is not about terrorism but a long-term nationalist battle.
Though autrocity happen, true, there is no concentrated effort, otherwise all Chechins long dead. As for 150 years, it is 150 years that Chechins raid and slave on Russian Tarek Cossaks (Tarek land is north half of modern day Chechnya). Did you know Chechyns Stalin allie in 1920s to murder Tarek Cossaks and in exchange Stalin as minister of minorities rewrote map and give them Christian land and Christian city Grozny? Probably not. Well now you learned. Chechins also take slaves from Orthodox Ossessions, Georgians, Abkhazians too and Muslims Daghistanies and Azerbajanies and Inguishians...why all neighbors dispise Chechins. You have much to learn and make many leftwing assumptions based on half truth and PC BS taught in West....keep trying.
""If you are a Christian, you are in danger," Mr. Putin said. "If you decide to become a Muslim, this won't save you either, because they think that traditional Islam is also hostile to their goals." Then he said this: "If you are determined to become a complete Islamic radical and are ready to undergo circumcision, then I invite you to Moscow. We are multi-confessional. We have experts in this sphere as well. I will recommend to conduct the operation so that nothing on you will grow again."
"If we catch them in the toilet, we will rub them out in the outhouse."
"Russia will not soon become, if it ever becomes, a second copy of the United States or England - where liberal value have deep historic roots."
"History proves that all dictatorships, all authoritarian forms of government are transient. Only democratic systems are not transient. Whatever the shortcomings, mankind has not devised anything superior."
"Anyone who doesn't regret the passing of the Soviet Union has no heart. Anyone who wants it restored has no brains."
Ahh, Mr. Brzezinski, Carter white house and unofficial Clinton white house....also deep hater of all that is Russia, who advise the destruction of Russia and who quoted on article to say in 1996 that no one has to fear Islam International, since it is not real or threat to US....I bet families of 3,000 would not agree.
Then Haig who serve paranoid and crook Nixon and
SOLARZ, Stephen Joshua, a Representative from New York; born in New York City, September 12, 1940; attended public schools in New York City; B.A., Brandeis University, Waltham, Mass., 1962; M.A., public law and government, Columbia University, New York, 1967; taught political science at Brooklyn (N.Y.) College, 1967-1968; served in the New York State assembly, 1969-1974; delegate, Democratic National Mid-term Convention, 1974; elected as a Democrat to the Ninety-fourth and to the eight succeeding Congresses (January 3, 1975-January 3, 1993); unsuccessful candidate for renomination in 1992 to the One Hundred Third Congress; appointed by President Clinton as chairman of the Central Asian-American Enterprise Fund and served from July 1993 to the present; is a resident of Brooklyn, N.Y.
Interesting company kept....maybe next you post something of Amnesty International, UN, MoveOn.org or Communist International, to support your place....I hear, Bin Ladin has many good pieces you like too.
Well recently 5 pieces of revisionist myth killed on Pakistani boarder with shoot out with Pakistani soldiers...also four such pieces of "myth" sit in US prison in Cuba...oh but that may destroy your Islam induced excuses. Fusion Jr? I know many Americans none respect type of Fusion, so when you say in NC he is respected man, that make me think that you either him, or you friend of him, because no where is he listed as speaker or politician or anybody to know....hmmmm.
Senator Patrick Ballantine at GOP Club
Posted by Jomini to Incorrigible; Wraith; Gael; Constitution Day On News/Activism 04/13/2003 4:04:51 AM PDT #3 of 10
The former candidate was jet lagged and found it difficult to concentrate on the excited ramblings of the state senator's young staffer. But the kid was enthusiastic so he listened intently. "We're thrilled he's running for Governor. Will your organisation be able to deliver Down East in the General?" -- the staffer asked.
The former candidate thought it might be a good idea to get the six term state senator through the primary first -- there had been rumblings from Wayne and Beaufort that many bridges had to be rebuilt first. However he liked the young legislator from the coast and replied, "Sure, give the Senator my best..."
The event was a Reagan Day Dinner a county or two north of the State Capitol. The White House choice to run for US Senate against the Democratic incumbent (and Presidential candidate) was keynote speaker and the local GOP faithful were all buzzing. Talk of politics was everywhere and the former candidate enjoyed catching up with his political allies.
Seventy-two hours earlier he had been in Manila with the Hawk -- wrapping up five weeks of consulting work and preparing for the next fight...
"Will sixty snake eaters be enough? I think we can force the MILF to the peace table and Abu Sayaf is on the run, but that new Communist army up north is much stronger than these intelligence estimates indicate..."
"Sixty is plenty for now -- and don't worry about the intelligence estimates. Try and remember what's important is that we know what's going on. If GMA decides to suspend the constitution next year and seek another term then she had better be ready to declare martial law and put the army in the streets. Either way I suspect the Philippines will have civil war next year," the Hawk said -- while pouring another glass of red wine.
"Just make sure those conservative Republican friends of your's get the word," he added. "We will need additional funding by the fourth quarter..."
The former candidate forced himself back to the present as the young staffer wandered to the next event patron and another round of hand shaking. He would have to file in January and soon begin to prepare himself for the next campaign. It would be exciting to watch the Republicans grass-root both a Gubernatorial and Senate win against the hated Democrats...
But first there was the business of the olde country's defence. According to the Hawk the Balkans were simmering -- which meant it would be a good time to check in with the Colonel...
-- Westerby
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Is the poster, formerly known as fusion, the actual professor?
I live two miles from UMASS Dartmouth. Be interesting to talk to some of his students. I wonder if he's a convert?
I really don't think there's much merit in his worldview, from the bit I know and have read. Seems kinda paranoid.
The Jamestown Project (link on his site) might be described by CBS news as "a shady organization with possible ties to Islamic terrorists". I wouldn't say that, but CBS might...if they weren't ...y'know...the way they are.
Here you are on this thread pretending to be some dumb ignorant kid. Big mistake to do it under your Jomini screen name. Gee, it's so hard to figure out...
Fusion fancies himself a student of military strategy and, wow, here's someone with the screen name "Jomini" carrying Fusion's torch. (Hmm, I wonder if he's also registered under Sun Tzu and Clausewitz.) Like Fusion, Jomini admires that brilliant strategist, General Giap.
I used to really enjoy Fusion's posts. I took them as delicious satire on several levels and thought they were wicked funny. I suppose it was what I read into them, not what you wrote into them. C'est l'internet.
Now here you are trying to get a rise out of us with this tripe. And after some of us stuck up for ol' Fusion. You are beyond the pale, sir.
Well, Jomini-Hominy, kiss my grits. (If you're a real tarheel you know what hominy is.) I'm done with your games.
Fusion himself used the flashback style in another post that I only wish I could find that had him going back to 2 other previous memories while sitting in the audience of a political speech that wasn't all that engaging. That was the best post ever!
Say what you will, Fusion is an excellent writer and I was happy to have him congregate with those of us who strew words on screen like the rocks on a Martian plain.
That Jomini guy, well, he's just a good ole' boy who likes to spin a few yarns for us yankees to enjoy.
Yes, yarns of islamic suiciders exploding Christian women and children and joy that this brings....you have very strange taste for fiction/reality...do you also enjoy tales of US soldier dieing when exact same suciders explode in Iraq or Afghanistan? Or is it less personal since when it is Russian or Jew or Serb or Hindu who die?
Are willing to bet on it old boy. From What I understand this individual mentioned in the parroted post is somewhat connected down there in the Carolinas and I wonder if he lurks on FR? I have asked Jim to pull your somewhat irresponsible post and maybe I have save your ass from a lawsuit and who know who else? Very nasty! You know how it is in the US it does not take much and I may have saved you from someone getting mid evil on your ass in a civil kind of way. Do you know that FR posts come up on the INTERNET all the time. Makes me wonder if you are one of those that just likes to jump on the band wagon when someone is down and is getting the boots to him.
Hope I have been of assistance and by the way, why don't you go ahead and ask Hoplite how sure he is about the person mentioned in Fusion's Fractured Fairy Tale. Maybe Hoplites not so sure either which makes you a fool's fool. Have a nice day old boy.
I'd suggest that your "English as a second language" writing style goes a long way towards stripping you of the credibility you seek, Wraith.
I'd suggest a lot of other things too, but wouldn't want you to go 'mid evil' or anything.
If you have any other concerns with anthing I've written, Wraith, try to be a man about it and take them up with me.
You see Hoplite I question your maturity because this lack thereof is surely reflected in your LACK OF COMMON SENCE in your wonderful post titled “Fusions Fractured Fairy tales by HOPLITE” which by the way is all over the internet. Surprised? Of course this is an irresponsible attempt on your part to publicly identify a fellow U.S. citizen as being Fusion on FR, a somewhat feeble attempt to intimidate the person you believe is Fusion from no longer posting on FR. Where the hell did you come from and how much glue have you been sniffing?????
This person you have picked on is a very connected U.S. citizen in the Carolinas who you have publicly betrayed to the world. Remember the Russians comments? You must have been on some kind of mind alliterating substance to be so stupid at this feeble attempt at convincing the FR community of your so called superior intellect by hanging out a fellow U.S. citizen out to dry. Very patriotic on your part. Please grab a Kleenex and live with your woe.
With your track record at an all time low which has really never changed, I do believe Boo Boo, it will take you some time to crawl out of the gutter you have placed your self in, not to mention those you have dragged down there with you.
I do not always agree with Fusion’s post but I for one will miss his contributions like a lot of others out here on FR . Fusion has always been apart of the Balkan thread and has not been a threat to anyone, but I do believe the torch has been passed on. As for your trashy research/ tactics Hoplite, it should be you who is thrown off of FR and not Fusion. Easy enough English for you, old man?
Hoplite's "Fusion's Fractured Fairytale" didn't bother Fusion or intimidate him from posting. Hoplite posted that over two years ago, and Fusion didn't quit. Fusion seemed to get a kick out of it, judging from his response: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/589269/posts#13
Unlike Hoplite, you served in the Balkans, in Croatia, with the UN, and in Kosovo, as a KFOR British soldier. You lived there, met the people, and had insider information that Hoplite can't get on the net.
Tell more about the Serb man who you rescued after he was kidnapped and imprisoned by the KLA: Was this in Pristina - the north, central, south...? Was it a residential house or business establishment where he was held? How long had he been a prisoner? Was the man injured? Handcuffed? Were there any KLA guards around?
Now that Fusion's bit the dust, Greg is trying to move his Jomini account onto the Balkan threads from the passe South Carolina election threads, so it's in your interest to support him in that effort.
The game's up, Wraith. If Greg didn't want to be outed, he wouldn't have cross posted his material under his real name on the 'Beaufort County Now' site and FreeRepublic as 'Fusion'.
"Stupid is as stupid does."
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