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Islamic extremists invade U.S., join sleeper cells
Washington Times ^ | 2/10/04 | Jerry Seper

Posted on 02/09/2004 9:34:29 PM PST by kattracks

Edited on 07/12/2004 4:13:14 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

Islamic radicals are being trained at terrorist camps in Pakistan and Kashmir as part of a conspiracy to send hundreds of operatives to "sleeper cells" in the United States, according to U.S. and foreign officials.

The intelligence and law-enforcement officials say dozens of Islamic extremists have already been routed through Europe to Muslim communities in the United States, based on secret intelligence data and information from terrorists and others detained by U.S. authorities.


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TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; US: Virginia; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: harakatulansar; immigratin; immigration; jerryseper; jihadinamerica; lashkaretaiba; paintballcell; virginiajihad
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1 posted on 02/09/2004 9:34:32 PM PST by kattracks
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To: kattracks
Scarey!
2 posted on 02/09/2004 9:36:16 PM PST by lakey
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To: kattracks
Don't worry, CAIR will be our first line of defense. < /sarcasm>
3 posted on 02/09/2004 9:38:24 PM PST by xJones
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To: kattracks
Well, goll-darn, just as long as we don't start profiling...
4 posted on 02/09/2004 9:38:37 PM PST by thegreatbeast (Quid lucrum istic mihi est?)
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To: kattracks
"U.S. intelligence officials said the camps, located in the remote regions of western Pakistan and in Pakistan-controlled Kashmir, are financed in part by various terrorist networks, including al Qaeda, and by sources in Saudi Arabia. Actually kind of hard to believe since we are flying everywhere over this country and have been for two plus years. We have it mapped out to a fare thee well by now. We may not own it but we know the topography. The camps must be stealth camps with cloaks of invisibility
5 posted on 02/09/2004 9:44:46 PM PST by thegreatbeast (Quid lucrum istic mihi est?)
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To: kattracks
Training camp + MOAB = nothing left over!
6 posted on 02/09/2004 9:52:36 PM PST by Atchafalaya
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To: kattracks; Cindy; yonif; Alouette; Yehuda; dennisw; Lent; Travis McGee; Jeff Head; rdb3; mhking; ...
post-9/11 America alert ...
7 posted on 02/09/2004 9:56:36 PM PST by Bobby777
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To: thegreatbeast
actually they are probably in the tribal area of Pakistan where the gubmint has no pull whatsoever and leaves alone because they will overthrow the gubmint if they bother em.

Overfly or not, those facists operate freely there.
8 posted on 02/09/2004 9:57:51 PM PST by Stopislamnow
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To: xJones
Don't worry, CAIR will be our first line of defense. < /sarcasm>

I thought John Kerry was going to fix the problem and make the terrorists like us? Didn't I read a letter he wrote to the Iranian newspapers saying he was going to restore the love. </ sarcasm> :)

9 posted on 02/09/2004 10:02:44 PM PST by NRA2BFree (http://www.angelfire.com/nm2/chainreaction/ValentinesDay.html)
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To: nutmeg
BTTT
10 posted on 02/09/2004 10:03:43 PM PST by nutmeg (Why vote for Bush? Imagine Commander in Chief John F'in Kerry!)
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To: kattracks
But U.S. and foreign intelligence authorities said terrorist training camps have been documented in some of western Pakistan's remote areas and in the disputed regions of Kashmir, and that military officials and others in the Musharraf government have not fully disassociated themselves from al Qaeda or the former Taliban regime in Afghanistan.

This issue has been addressed and will be solved.....The Bush Doctrine. Remember?

11 posted on 02/09/2004 10:09:43 PM PST by EGPWS
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To: NRA2BFree
"I thought John Kerry was going to fix the problem and make the terrorists like us? Didn't I read a letter he wrote to the Iranian newspapers saying he was going to restore the love." </ sarcasm> :)

No he thinks we evil Republicans, and President Bush made up all this terrorist stuff to get oil for Haliburton, and to oppress people of color, and to hide the fact that Prez was AWOL from the NG, and jsut so we wouldn't let him play Commander in Chief.
12 posted on 02/09/2004 10:23:03 PM PST by rikkir (I thought of a great tag line today...)
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To: kattracks
The solution to this should be simple --

Stop granting visas to people from countries where they want to kill us and seal our borders against illegal immigrants. Anyone from a country where a significant part of the populace or the government want to kill Americans, who is here legally or otherwise should have to go home now.

Unfortunately, most of those in our government view our borders as anachronisms that serve no purpose other than to inhibit the free flow of commerce.

How many more of us have to die before the elites and our leaders figure out that the nation state is still the best solution for organizing a civilization?
13 posted on 02/09/2004 10:23:26 PM PST by InABunkerUnderSF (The Democrats two best arguments: "Your Stupid!" and "Haliburton!!!")
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To: kattracks
Quick, throw another Ramadan celebration at the People's House.
14 posted on 02/09/2004 10:28:23 PM PST by MissAmericanPie
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To: yonif
FYI - "Financed in part by millions of dollars solicited by an extensive network of bogus charities and foundations, the cells use [U.S.] Muslim communities as cover and places to raise cash and recruit sympathizers."
15 posted on 02/09/2004 10:29:51 PM PST by tubavil
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To: tubavil
We need to crack down on these organizations, and stop hiding behind political correctness as a reason for inactness.
16 posted on 02/09/2004 10:36:34 PM PST by yonif ("If I Forget Thee, O Jerusalem, Let My Right Hand Wither" - Psalms 137:5)
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To: rikkir
No he thinks we evil Republicans, and President Bush made up all this terrorist stuff to get oil for Haliburton, and to oppress people of color, and to hide the fact that Prez was AWOL from the NG, and jsut so we wouldn't let him play Commander in Chief.

Dang, I sure got that one wrong. LOL! I do like your story better than mine though. :)

17 posted on 02/09/2004 10:59:38 PM PST by NRA2BFree (http://www.angelfire.com/nm2/chainreaction/ValentinesDay.html)
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To: thegreatbeast
Wake up and smell the coffee..this is rugged territory where Osama has been hiding and his boys have been working for years...plus the Paki intell is riddled with disloyalists biding their time and aiding and abetting
18 posted on 02/09/2004 10:59:57 PM PST by jnarcus
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To: NRA2BFree
I thought John Kerry was going to fix the problem and make the terrorists like us?

You mean John F'n CAIRie?

19 posted on 02/09/2004 11:16:47 PM PST by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o* &AAGG)
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To: yonif
We need to crack down on these organizations, and stop hiding behind political correctness as a reason for inactness.

I listened to Pipes lecture a couple days ago. He stated in no uncertain terms that we will have to be hit hard before the administration will do anything serious about islamic terrorism. He calls this (quoting) "Education by murder."

Until 10,000 or 100,000 die, which the muslims are more than willing to murder, bush won't act substantively.

20 posted on 02/09/2004 11:16:50 PM PST by tubavil
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To: tubavil
This is the current inside information on exactly why Qaddafi suddenly threw open his nuclear vaults for international inspection:

He knows of a plan to detonate a nuke inside of America, and wants badly to be off of our retaliatory strike list. As one of the Islamic nuclear godfathers, he's "heard things." He knows. Maybe not the specifics, but he knows. And when it goes off, he does NOT want to be on George Bush's suspects list. People charged with keeping out and otherwise finding these devices are VERY worried. That's what I heard.

21 posted on 02/09/2004 11:26:56 PM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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Until 10,000 or 100,000 die, which the muslims are more than willing to murder, bush won't act substantively.

I won't look to Bush to act should the islamonazi's reach those numbers. I will look to America to act. And as bad as it may sound, I would want Islam and all it's followers extermianted within thiscountry's borders.

Flame all you like; but if YOU ARE the one that is killed by one of the crazy muslims, would you like me to adhere to "Islam is the Religion of Peace" and sit tight?

Tell me. Would you like American's to sit tight and do nothing, again? Read the Quran, they don't like us much.

22 posted on 02/09/2004 11:29:33 PM PST by Michael Barnes ( <a href="http://www.michaelmoore.com">miserable failure </a>)
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To: Travis McGee
Sharon: Libya is trying to acquire nuclear weapons and may be the first Arab nation to succeed
23 posted on 02/09/2004 11:30:33 PM PST by yonif ("If I Forget Thee, O Jerusalem, Let My Right Hand Wither" - Psalms 137:5)
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To: unix
The government will immediately take steps to prevent such attacks from citizens to go about.

I also believe that the government will not act if a WMD detonates in the US, in the way we would want it to act against militant Islam.

24 posted on 02/09/2004 11:31:58 PM PST by yonif ("If I Forget Thee, O Jerusalem, Let My Right Hand Wither" - Psalms 137:5)
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To: kattracks
Islamic radicals are being trained at terrorist camps in Pakistan and Kashmir as part of a conspiracy to send hundreds of operatives to "sleeper cells" in the United States

And yet our focus since 9/11 continues to be on Afghanistan and Iraq, while our true enemy, Pakistan, seemingly gets a free ride.

25 posted on 02/09/2004 11:38:30 PM PST by montag813
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To: yonif
Former site of black meteorite artifact:


26 posted on 02/09/2004 11:38:37 PM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Travis McGee
Oh SH**
27 posted on 02/09/2004 11:41:30 PM PST by bonfire
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To: yonif
The government will immediately take steps to prevent such attacks from citizens to go about.

Doubt that. I don't recall roving military vehicles after 9/11. Don't even recall military unit's in play other than national defense.
They would be a day late and a dollar short.

28 posted on 02/09/2004 11:44:38 PM PST by Michael Barnes ( <a href="http://www.michaelmoore.com">miserable failure </a>)
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To: unix
Yeah, but I think people were more ignorant on 9/11 as to who the enemy was. If it happens again, we will remember who it was - the militant Islamic entity.
29 posted on 02/09/2004 11:54:36 PM PST by yonif ("If I Forget Thee, O Jerusalem, Let My Right Hand Wither" - Psalms 137:5)
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To: montag813
We need to declare war on militant Islam.
30 posted on 02/09/2004 11:54:59 PM PST by yonif ("If I Forget Thee, O Jerusalem, Let My Right Hand Wither" - Psalms 137:5)
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To: yonif
Your talking about a deployment of force that simply is not possible of the military. The next go around, should there be one, military (marital law) will not be possible within "hours". By that time, least in my area, many will be toasted. Once the military arrives, it will all be over.

I don't mind telling you, I'm not much the bar going type, but occaisonally, I do stop by them and sip my beer in peace. The converasations that I over hear, albeit 80% of which is bullshit, is interesting in and of itself. It's the 20% that I believe will carry through. I live in an area where the "great white hunters" have high powered rifles, nice scopes and zero military training. Recipe for slaughter. And once again, not a thing the Gov't will be able to d about it.

31 posted on 02/10/2004 12:04:27 AM PST by Michael Barnes ( <a href="http://www.michaelmoore.com">miserable failure </a>)
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To: Travis McGee
I believe you may have struck on to something ther ol boy...
Something is about to happen to this country major & I for one is looking forward to it... PS. maybe repub's will be hunting dem's down in the streets with dogs...
32 posted on 02/10/2004 12:07:00 AM PST by maxamillion
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To: maxamillion
Your looking forward to something happening to this country>? Please tell me that was a typo.
33 posted on 02/10/2004 12:09:24 AM PST by Michael Barnes ( <a href="http://www.michaelmoore.com">miserable failure </a>)
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To: yonif
BTW, I don't think U.S. military will be the one's "policing". I find it hard to believe that the men of our military would openly go after American's when yet again, islam attacks our country. (Firmly affixing tin foil hat), I believe what I will see are light blue hat's/helmet's.

Believe me when I say I will kill the men wearing them.

34 posted on 02/10/2004 12:13:46 AM PST by Michael Barnes ( <a href="http://www.michaelmoore.com">miserable failure </a>)
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To: unix
Well, maybe I shouldn't be asking for it, but, I wouldn't be suprised if we didn't get hit here right before the election...
35 posted on 02/10/2004 12:19:43 AM PST by maxamillion
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To: maxamillion
Election. That is interesting. What if we got hit in say, NY City. Or what about CA., somewhere, anywhere election night?. What happens? D othe elections get suspended or delayed (I would assume, I have not read up enough about this type of scenario).

Furthermore, I don't doubt were gonna get hit again. Our southern border (as well as northern) is wide open. Least based on what reading I can find.

36 posted on 02/10/2004 12:31:58 AM PST by Michael Barnes ( <a href="http://www.michaelmoore.com">miserable failure </a>)
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To: unix; yonif
The government may act and in fact the highest terror alert level does mention transporation restrictions. However, the National Guard has significant forces overseas. It's going to be real hard to control things, especially in the chaos.

Hell, they can't even find ONE sniper (the freeway sniper). What's it been 3 months? 20+ shootings?

37 posted on 02/10/2004 12:44:29 AM PST by tubavil
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To: unix
If we get hit, it won't be anything on a major scale... It will be a large city & the demo's will start claiming that W can't protect us... & I tell ya, they will get power from that. It wouldn't suprise me if the dems weren't behind it...
38 posted on 02/10/2004 12:46:44 AM PST by maxamillion
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To: All
-Jihad! Across the World....--
39 posted on 02/10/2004 12:53:52 AM PST by backhoe
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To: Travis McGee
Sigh, that's my info too.

40 posted on 02/10/2004 1:08:08 AM PST by tubavil
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To: unix
Interesting that you bring this up. In July of 2002, Peter Kirsanow, a member of the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights said at a hearing in Detroit, that if there were another terrorist attack, arabs and muslims in the U.S. would have to be placed in internment camps for their own safety. Ever since then, the tough guys at the local watering holes have been vowing to get to Dearborn before the feds and make sure there was nothing left to send to the camps. Some of them are serious, especially the "Good Ol' Boy" types.
41 posted on 02/10/2004 1:23:59 AM PST by jaykay (I am NOT John Kerry!)
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To: kattracks; kdf1; AMERIKA; Lancey Howard; MudPuppy; SMEDLEYBUTLER; opbuzz; Snow Bunny; gitmogrunt; ..
terror bump
42 posted on 02/10/2004 2:01:08 AM PST by RaceBannon (John Kerry is Vietnam's Benedict Arnold: Former War Hero turned Traitor)
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To: lakey

43 posted on 02/10/2004 2:05:49 AM PST by RaceBannon (John Kerry is Vietnam's Benedict Arnold: Former War Hero turned Traitor)
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To: backhoe; All
LINKS OF INTEREST
http://www.truthusa.com/LinksOfInterest.html

SEPTEMBER 11, 2001: ATTACK ON AMERICA
http://www.truthusa.com/911.html
44 posted on 02/10/2004 2:18:15 AM PST by Cindy
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To: Travis McGee; Boot Hill; Cap Huff; swarthyguy
I have been wondering what we would use to get into the tribal areas of western Pakistan....this will be the reason.

This article is setting the stage for something that has went down ....or is about to go down.

Folks watch western Pakistan in the coming weeks..

45 posted on 02/10/2004 2:33:46 AM PST by Dog
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To: All
Can you say "SPRING OFFENSIVE"?
46 posted on 02/10/2004 2:38:43 AM PST by Terp (Retired US Navy now living in Philippines were the Mountains meet the Sea in the Land of Smiles)
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To: kattracks
Maybe Zogby could spend some time polling his fellow Muslims about this, instead of manipulating our elections with polling.
47 posted on 02/10/2004 3:26:19 AM PST by tkathy (The nihilistic islamofascists and the nihilistic liberals are trying to destroy this country)
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To: Dog; Travis McGee; Coop; Cap Huff; swarthyguy
Washington Times reports:   "Islamic radicals are being trained at terrorist camps in Pakistan and Kashmir as part of a conspiracy to send hundreds of operatives to "sleeper cells" in the United States, according to U.S. and foreign officials."

And...

Washington Times reports:   "Eleven men, including nine U.S. citizens, were arrested last year in Virginia in what authorities called the "Virginia jihad." The men were accused in a 41-count grand jury indictment of engaging in "holy jihad" to drive India out of the disputed Kashmir territory. Six have since pleaded guilty."

It's strange how things work out sometimes. These terrorists infiltrators, and those that offer aid and comfort to them while they are here in the U.S., can actually end up hiding closer to you than you might otherwise expect. The following link is to an FR thread originating from a WSJ article that details how "the crackpot libertarian site", AntiWar.com, home of the infamous and now former FReeper, Justin Raimondo, hosted at least one of these very same terrorists mentioned in the above Washington Times article, as a "guest" writer on his AntiWar.com website.

An 'Antiwar' Jihadi (Antiwar.com writer pleads guilty to terror charges – Dennis must be proud!)

--Boot Hill

48 posted on 02/10/2004 3:48:27 AM PST by Boot Hill
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To: Dog
Dog:   "This article is setting the stage for something that has went down ....or is about to go down."

Yes, and its doing such a great job of laying out the just cause!!!

--Boot Hill

49 posted on 02/10/2004 3:52:44 AM PST by Boot Hill
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To: tkathy
Is Zogby a Muslim?
50 posted on 02/10/2004 4:15:35 AM PST by livius
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