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Medal to honor Korean War vets
The Dallas Morning News ^ | February 10, 2004 | From Staff Reports

Posted on 02/09/2004 11:48:55 PM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

A new medal will honor U.S. military personnel who have served in Korea since the end of the Korean War, officials said Monday.

The Korean Defense Service Medal can be awarded to veterans who were assigned to the Korean peninsula for 30 consecutive or 60 non-consecutive days after July 28, 1954. Those who were involved in combat, suffered injuries or flew missions over Korea also can qualify for the honor.

“We’ve been working on it for about three years now,” said Tom Marrelli, Texas commander of the Korea Defense Veterans of America. The organization has about 400 members in Texas.

Marrelli served two tours of duty in Korea during his 20-year Army career.

U.S. peacekeeping forces have now been stationed in Korea for more than 50 years to secure South Korea’s northern border. The Pentagon estimates that more than 40,000 Americans have been a part of that effort each year since 1953.

As many as 2 million vets could be eligible to receive the new medal.

Distribution of the new medals will be up to each branch of the military.

A separate Korean War Service Medal, issued by the Republic of Korea, was established in 2000 to honor veterans of the 1950-1953 conflict.

Dallas Web Staff writer Walt Zwirko contributed to this report.


TOPICS: Announcements; Foreign Affairs; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: korea; military; servicemedal; veterans

1 posted on 02/09/2004 11:49:01 PM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Good .. but I would have guessed it would have to go to troops on the other side of the war to get it passed Congress.
2 posted on 02/09/2004 11:53:48 PM PST by GeronL (www.ArmorforCongress.com ............... Support a FReeper for Congress)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; ALOHA RONNIE; LindaSOG; SAMWolf
We win here or lose everywhere; if we win here, we improve the chances of winning everywhere. --Douglas MacArthur
3 posted on 02/09/2004 11:55:23 PM PST by risk (NEVER FORGET)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Cool medal!
4 posted on 02/10/2004 12:03:38 AM PST by claudiustg (Go Sharon! Go Bush!)
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To: risk; U S Army EOD; snippy_about_it
Korean Service Bump
5 posted on 02/10/2004 12:04:23 AM PST by SAMWolf (Circular Definition: see Definition, Circular.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Gee, it's not every night that I get a medal while surfing the web. *g*
6 posted on 02/10/2004 12:08:59 AM PST by LenS
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To: LenS; All
Thank you BUMP!
7 posted on 02/10/2004 12:15:54 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: LenS
Gee, it's not every night that I get a medal while surfing the web. *g*

Yep! I was thinking the same thing. I guess I'll have to buy mine on Ebay.

8 posted on 02/10/2004 12:16:19 AM PST by IDontLikeToPayTaxes
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To: IDontLikeToPayTaxes; LenS


Worst medal ever. Rest assured I was on the internet within minutes registering my disgust throughout the world.

9 posted on 02/10/2004 12:45:09 AM PST by Hoplite
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To: SAMWolf
U.S. peacekeeping forces have now been stationed in Korea for more than 50 years to secure South Korea’s northern border.

It's too bad our superior power isn't made obvious to everyone, China included, to be able to call this over. /rant

I'm glad to see the recognition though of the service our troops provide there.

10 posted on 02/10/2004 3:26:45 AM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: snippy_about_it; LenS; Cincinatus' Wife

Chosin breakout
Chosin breakout

11 posted on 02/10/2004 3:57:07 AM PST by risk (NEVER FORGET)
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To: risk; All

12 posted on 02/10/2004 4:00:09 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
I hope the South Koreans don't have to find out the hard way why it's a good idea to support our troops instead of berating us for our bad driving skills and how much precious real estate we're occupying.
13 posted on 02/10/2004 4:07:41 AM PST by risk
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To: risk
Bump!
14 posted on 02/10/2004 4:12:42 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Hoplite
Well, a lot of soldiers have died or been wounded along the DMZ. But most of that occurred from the end of the war to the early 80's. By my tour in 1988-89, it was a very quiet border. Probably because the North used tunnels, subs and travel through other countries to infiltrate the South -- much more efficient than trying to cross through the heavily armed DMZ.
15 posted on 02/10/2004 4:21:08 PM PST by LenS
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
This medal is issued by the RoK, right? Has the DoD authorized it for wear on uniforms? Incomplete article.
16 posted on 02/10/2004 7:17:34 PM PST by Snickersnee (Where are we going? And what's with this handbasket???)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Cancel post #16 -- just Googled the KDSM and was surprised to see that it is a US medal.
17 posted on 02/10/2004 7:20:36 PM PST by Snickersnee (Where are we going? And what's with this handbasket???)
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To: LenS
I concur in your assessment that honorable deeds have been committed by our comrades in Korea - what I take exception to is that we are being honored for their deeds, however indirectly, through the issuance of this medal.

I wasn't there when the NK's were ambushing convoys around Kitty Hawk, nor was I there when the Russian defected in the JSA and triggered a firefight in the sunken garden - I was in Korea when we invaded Panama, and still there when we got it on with Saddam during round one in the desert. I have a medal from Desert Storm which I figure I earned by watching CNN (Nat. Def. Svc.), and which consequently means nothing to me.

On the other hand, I have an EIB which means something to me because it cost me some amount of effort and suffering.

This medal we're talking about cost me nothing, so it means nothing to me - fruit salad is viewed in the bad light it is because of these "thanks for coming" medals, and it's that aspect of this piece of ribbon that I'm taking exception to.

I have a bud who earned a Bronze Star in Afghanistan - which would be great, except he's kind of miffed about it 'cause he doesn't figure he did anything but show up. Comparing that to another soldier I know (served under) who earned one for chasing down some VC in a rubber plantation with an M-60, no less, and I hope you see what I'm getting at.

18 posted on 02/10/2004 9:06:34 PM PST by Hoplite
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Cool -- my cousin would be up for that!
19 posted on 02/10/2004 9:21:55 PM PST by StarCMC (God protect the 969th in Iraq and their Captain, my brother...God protect them all!)
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To: All
The KDSM was authorized by the Fiscal Year 2003 National Defense Authorization Act for military members who served in the Korean area of operations from 28 July 1954 until a date yet to be determined. The DoD is currently creating the criteria and requirements for this award. Once this is complete, the KDSM will be manufactured, then DoD officials will provide direction on “who and how” the medal will be issued. Please note that the Korean Defense Service Medal is not connected to the Korean War Service Medal, currently being issued to Korean war veterans. We ask that personnel refrain from asking questions relating to the KDSM, until the criteria and requirements are available. When this information is available in a few months, it will be posted at the AFPC Awards/Decorations website and publicized via an Air Force wide message or MPFM

While I'm at it...

The president signed the order March 12 establishing the Global War on Terrorism Expeditionary Medal and the Global War on Terrorism Service Medal. The Global War on Terrorism Expeditionary Medal will be awarded to service members who serve in military expeditions to combat terrorism on or after Sept. 11, 2001. Operation Enduring Freedom is the prime operation the medal may be awarded for. Personnel assigned to operations in Afghanistan and the Philippines are examples of service members who will receive the award.


The Global War on Terrorism Service Medal will be awarded to service members who serve in military operations to combat terrorism on or after Sept. 11, 2001. Operation Noble Eagle is an example of the type of operation the medal may be awarded for.

The awards do not take the place of the Armed Forces Expeditionary Medal, established Dec. 4, 1961, or the Armed Forces Service Medal, established Jan. 11, 1996.
20 posted on 02/11/2004 12:53:54 PM PST by Jammz ("The only thing needed for evil to prevail, is for good men to do nothing.")
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
I love the picture you sent regarding the memorial honoring the soldiers who served in the Korean War. Eventhough that period was nothing but a war to stop communism, the soldiers, in my opinion, were fighting to defend DEMOCRACY. Those soldiers - who placed their lives on the line for America - showed the world what honor, sacrifice, duty and sometimes death by following their orders.

As why it took so long for these ...HEROES to be awarded a medal honoring their duty during the Korean war is beyond me.

But why is there no National Monument/Medal regarding the American soldiers who served in the Mexican War 1846-1848? By most historians point of view, and I pretty much agree, expresses that the U.S.-Mexican War was nothing but a war to make Mexico accept the annexation of Texas to the United States AND the possession of the Pacific Coast.

I think the Mexican War placed a permanent scar on Mexico that, to this day, has not gone away. On the other hand, by what I've studied on this period, the United States has placed a mark on her forehead that says "SHAME."

It doesn't matter who is to blame regarding "Mr. Polk's War." It happened and it should be honored by ALL Americans.

Any American soldier, regarding ANY war, should be honored by a medal or a monument. The U.S.-Mexican War involved ALL Americans from the 28 United States.

Today it's 2004. The Korean War was over 50 years ago. Why wait so long to award these soldiers, and civilians, who defended DEMOCRACY?

Oh well. At least they finally awarded.

When is the National Government honor the soldiers who served in the Mexican War? Probably never since most Americans haven't the slightest knowledge of this pivitol event that was, unfortunately, overshadowed by the Civil War.

Any replys regarding the Mexican War can e-mail me at aaagclayc@hotmail.com.
21 posted on 02/11/2004 1:09:11 PM PST by MUSKETCLAY (MUSKETCLAY)
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To: Hoplite
Are you a communist? Why are you so offended by a medal honoring American soldiers who served in the Korean War? Are you a Klansman? Are you so full of hate that you have to gripe about a medal regarding a piece of American history?

Oh well. At least our Bill of Rights protect people like you to express your opinion.

So with my Freedom of Expression I think you are a ________.
22 posted on 02/11/2004 1:26:34 PM PST by MUSKETCLAY (MUSKETCLAY)
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To: MUSKETCLAY
Learn how to read.
23 posted on 02/11/2004 1:35:04 PM PST by Hoplite
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To: Hoplite
The decoration is to honor those who served in Korea after the Korean war, it is NOT worth promotion points, however it does identify that the member served time in Korea preventing the north from invading and yes, they would have if they were given the opportunity. It's no different than an overseas long tour ribbon or an overseas short tour ribbon. It's an identifier, which tells what a member has done. That's the entire purpose of the "fruit salad". You can tell where a member's been, how long they've been in, some of what they've done and much more, it's not just ribbons for being someplace, it's for something significant.

By the way, the North and South are in fact still at a state of war, unless things have changed since I last did research on this. They are only under an armistace. That is one reason why it is known as "The Forgotten War".
24 posted on 02/11/2004 3:26:58 PM PST by Jammz ("The only thing needed for evil to prevail, is for good men to do nothing.")
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To: Jammz
If there's a "Blue Angel Club" clasp for it, I'll reconsider - but until then, this is just the Army Service Medal for Korea.
25 posted on 02/11/2004 4:19:37 PM PST by Hoplite
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To: Hoplite
Blue Angel Club clasp??

Actually this IS just a service medal, nothing more. It's the same thing as a OS short tour, a OS long tour, an expeditionary, a National defense, a southwest asia service, a humanitarian service, etc... all it says is, this guy went to support this mission.

26 posted on 02/11/2004 4:31:13 PM PST by Jammz ("The only thing needed for evil to prevail, is for good men to do nothing.")
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To: MUSKETCLAY
As why it took so long for these ...HEROES to be awarded a medal honoring their duty during the Korean war is beyond me. ....Today it's 2004. The Korean War was over 50 years ago. Why wait so long to award these soldiers,.......

You have misunderstood the purpose of the new medal.

The new medal is for Korean service after the armistice that ended combat in the Korean War.

Korean War service was recognized by the Korean Service Medal.

Created: 8 November 1950 by Executive Order No. 10179.

Criteria: Participated in combat or served with a combat or service unit in the Korean Theater on permanent assignment or on temporary duty for 30 consecutive or 60 nonconsecutive days anytime between June 27.1950, and July 27, 1954.


Korean Service Medal.

27 posted on 02/11/2004 5:01:50 PM PST by Polybius
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To: Jammz
Yeah, you know, Blue Angel. One of the on limits one day off limits the next establishments in Sonyu-ri, if memory serves.

So if it's a service medal, how big of a deal is that? It's not, and my whole point is that striking a medal for it is just a waste of time and money. Those of us who went to Korea know we were there, and I for one am not interested in getting yet another ribbon for merely doing my duty, regardless of where that duty was.

28 posted on 02/11/2004 5:17:24 PM PST by Hoplite
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To: Hoplite
Hmmm never heard that before. I was near Pyong-tec and Songton (or however you spell them).

The service medals are no big deal, it's just eye candy and tells your history. I.E. I've got 15 ribbons and of all of them, only 2 count for anything. The whole purpose behind the rack is to show where a person has been, what kind of missions they've been on and how good a person sucks up, ermmm, performed while someplace. I.E. Just by looking at my ribbons you can tell I've done xx years, I've been overseas a few times, I've deployed, I've done humanitarian missions, I've been in some good units and I don't kiss the boss's backside.
29 posted on 02/11/2004 5:38:25 PM PST by Jammz ("The only thing needed for evil to prevail, is for good men to do nothing.")
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To: Hoplite
Hmmm never heard that before. I was near Pyong-tec and Songton (or however you spell them).

The service medals are no big deal, it's just eye candy and tells your history. I.E. I've got 15 ribbons and of all of them, only 2 count for anything. The whole purpose behind the rack is to show where a person has been, what kind of missions they've been on and how good a person sucks up, ermmm, performed while someplace. I.E. Just by looking at my ribbons you can tell I've done xx years, I've been overseas a few times, I've deployed, I've not gotten into trouble, I've done humanitarian missions, I've been in some good units and I don't kiss the boss's backside.
30 posted on 02/11/2004 5:38:57 PM PST by Jammz ("The only thing needed for evil to prevail, is for good men to do nothing.")
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To: Jammz
That's just it - they're no big deal.

So why bother with another one for Korean service?

I think we see where each other is coming from - I understand your position, I just don't agree with it. = )

31 posted on 02/11/2004 6:11:01 PM PST by Hoplite
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