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Avian flu found at second farm (Delaware)
Wilmington (DE) News Journal ^ | 2/10/04 | LULADEY B. TADESSE

Posted on 02/10/2004 11:44:47 AM PST by Gabz

Edited on 05/07/2004 6:01:30 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

A second Delaware farm has tested positive for avian flu, state agriculture officials announced today.

The northern Sussex County farm contracts with a commercial poultry company, but officials would not identify which one. Its flock of 72,000 birds in three houses were to be killed this afternoon, officials said.


(Excerpt) Read more at delawareonline.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Delaware; US: Maryland; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: avianflu; birdflu; delmarva; poultry
This does not bode well for the poultry industry on the DelMarva Penninsula.
1 posted on 02/10/2004 11:44:50 AM PST by Gabz
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To: Hurricane Andrew; mykdsmom; farmfriend; oceanview
Jusdt pinging a few folks who were on the thread about the first outbreak the other day.

Unfortunately this outbreak is one of the commercial roaster farms.
2 posted on 02/10/2004 11:48:43 AM PST by Gabz (Smoke gnatzies: small minds buzzing in your business - SWAT'EM)
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To: Gabz
Thanks for the ping.

This is not good. The State needs to take strong quick action, whatever that may be. Now is not the time to play around.
3 posted on 02/10/2004 12:23:23 PM PST by Hurricane Andrew
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To: Hurricane Andrew
The Ag department does seem to be moving quickly. You figure they are destroying the 72,000 birds this afternoon.


Since they are saying this one is in Sussex County, only 5 miles from the one in Kent last week - I would venture to say it is probably in the Milford area........

I realize stuff like this goes with the territory - but I can't help but feel for the guy who's farm it is.
4 posted on 02/10/2004 12:34:57 PM PST by Gabz (Smoke gnatzies: small minds buzzing in your business - SWAT'EM)
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To: Gabz
Yeah. On the local (well, if you call Philly local) news over the weekend, they had some ariel pics of guys in hazmat suits coming out of some chicken houses "in the Milford area." That's when I found out that it was the Milford area, and not "near Dover" like most early reports indicated. This latest report only confirms that. I'm just glad it's a strain that doesn't impact humans, or else I might put on a tinfoil hat just in case ;-)
5 posted on 02/10/2004 12:46:05 PM PST by Hurricane Andrew
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To: Hurricane Andrew
They are having a press conference about it at 4. Watch channel 16 out of Salisbury (WBOC)instead of the Philly station ;) they give more local news!!!


In Philly no one has ever heard of Milford - and very few have probably heard of Dover!!!
6 posted on 02/10/2004 12:49:44 PM PST by Gabz (Smoke gnatzies: small minds buzzing in your business - SWAT'EM)
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To: Gabz
I know, but the only problem is that we switched from Comcast to Dish Network about 3 years ago, and the only "local" package available is the Philly set. I used to watch 16 and 47 when we did have cable. Now, I sometimes watch 16 during football season and March Madness with the help of an old pair of rabbit ears. I might have to dig them out tonight...
7 posted on 02/10/2004 12:55:47 PM PST by Hurricane Andrew
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To: Gabz
Is Frank Perdue still the chicken man over there???
8 posted on 02/10/2004 12:57:23 PM PST by antivenom ("Never argue with an idiot, he'll bring you down to his level - then beat you with experience.")
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To: Hurricane Andrew
That's my only fear of switching from cable to dish - that I will wind up getting the "local" from the other side of the bay.

I'll post anything I hear to this thread.......
9 posted on 02/10/2004 12:58:50 PM PST by Gabz (Smoke gnatzies: small minds buzzing in your business - SWAT'EM)
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To: Gabz
I grew up in Cambridge Maryland and have a brother in Mardela Springs...right outside of Salisbury...you are in my old stomping grounds....
10 posted on 02/10/2004 1:00:05 PM PST by antivenom ("Never argue with an idiot, he'll bring you down to his level - then beat you with experience.")
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To: antivenom
He's not the only one - but one of the biggest!!!

Chicken is big business here.
11 posted on 02/10/2004 1:00:05 PM PST by Gabz (Smoke gnatzies: small minds buzzing in your business - SWAT'EM)
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To: Hurricane Andrew
I'm just glad it's a strain that doesn't impact humans

Interesting how that was determined with such rapidity. All flu strains, H7 and others, mutate with great speed and in surprising directions. I believe it is accurate to say that testing never reveals the exact same strain twice.

What I would like to know is if this strain can infect pigs (truthfully, from a non-governmental expert). If so, it means that pigs might be able to harbor both the avian strain and a human strain, generating a new mutant that could infect humans with properties of each. There is the same concern in Asia. I don't know whether any H7 strains have a human counterpart.

12 posted on 02/10/2004 1:03:15 PM PST by steve86
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To: Gabz
Every farmer I knew in Maryland had a few chicken houses...chickens and feed courtesy of Frank Perdue...(secret ingredient in the feed was marigold petals to make the chicken flesh golden yellow) and ohhh the joy of driving through Salisbury on the way to Ocean City to watch the escapee chickens running all over the place...yes I know about the poultry bidness over on the DelMarVa penisula...
13 posted on 02/10/2004 1:03:23 PM PST by antivenom ("Never argue with an idiot, he'll bring you down to his level - then beat you with experience.")
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To: antivenom
I know right where you're talking about!
14 posted on 02/10/2004 1:10:05 PM PST by Gabz (Smoke gnatzies: small minds buzzing in your business - SWAT'EM)
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To: Hurricane Andrew
"On the local (well, if you call Philly local) news over the weekend, they had some ariel pics of guys in hazmat suits coming out of some chicken houses".

As anyone who has ever been in a chicken house before can attest to, those Hazmat suits would also come in handy to overcome the Furfum-De-Funk.

15 posted on 02/10/2004 1:10:16 PM PST by JustAnAmerican
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To: JustAnAmerican
Actually, I believe that the funk to which you refer, AKA chicken $@!^, is the only non-radiouactive substance known to be able to penetrate a standard issue hazmat suit.
16 posted on 02/10/2004 1:22:20 PM PST by Hurricane Andrew
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To: BearWash
My understanding is that this strain has been around for years and is well known in the poultry industry. That is the reason that they were able to make such a quick determination, they knew exactly what they were looking for.
17 posted on 02/10/2004 1:24:48 PM PST by Hurricane Andrew
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To: antivenom
I guess you do know about the industry!!!

I remember back in the early 80s when I was in radio a Perdue truck overturned at the intersection of 13 and 113 in Dover - talk about making big news. They were chasing chickens around the capitol for hours!!!!

Where I live now in Accomac County, my nearest neighbors are 6 of those 20,000 per chicken houses!!!
18 posted on 02/10/2004 2:20:23 PM PST by Gabz (Smoke gnatzies: small minds buzzing in your business - SWAT'EM)
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To: Hurricane Andrew; antivenom; BearWash; JustAnAmerican
Here's the press release from this afternoon's press conference:

Avian Influenza Update--February 10, 2004
Statement from Michael T. Scuse, Secretary of Agriculture:

Despite our aggressive measures to contain the outbreak of Avian Influenza in Delaware, this morning officials from the University of Delaware Lasher Laboratory notified me that a second poultry farm has tested positive for avian influenza. We are very fortunate to have a lab of this caliber in Delaware. They have been able to supply us with results in a very timely manner which enables us to react quickly to the situation. The H7-type of avian influenza, believed to be the same strain first reported last Friday, was found in a commercial flock of roaster chickens in northern Sussex County.

I am as surprised as many of you are by this recent turn of events because the new outbreak is located more than 5 miles from the first point of infection. The tests results I received yesterday showed that all 20 farms within a two-mile radius of the original infected farm were negative for avian influenza. At this time we can not explain how the virus appeared so far outside our original containment zone.

The new avian influenza infection was discovered after a flock supervisor took sickly chickens to the Lasher Lab for a determination of illness. At 1:30 this afternoon, officials began depopulating the 73,800 birds in the three chicken houses on the newly infected farm. As with the previous incidence, the birds will be composted in their chicken houses.

Today we DID learn that the EXACT strain of virus from the first site was H7N2. According to the Delaware Division of Public Health, there is no history of risk to humans with this particular strain. Nor does this strain in any way affect the safety of eating Delmarva Poultry.

I would like to once again describe the aggressive containment procedures we are implementing across the Delmarva Peninsula to eradicate this incidence of avian influenza.

There are more than 75 farms within 6 miles of the infected farms, all of which are under quarantine until further notice. Birds over 21 days of age on these farms will be tested every 10 days for evidence of the virus.

The Delmarva Emergency Poultry Disease Task Force believes that the most likely ways to transmit the virus is firstly, through people carrying it on their shoes…secondly by people and machinery entering and leaving the farm during routine operations, and thirdly through the air. Therefore, the task force has decided to enforce the following precautionary measures.

--MORE--
Delaware Dept. of Agriculture
Avian Influenza Update 2/10/04
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There will be no spreading of poultry manure in areas north of Route 50. Feed delivery trucks will only deliver to one farm per trip, and will undergo rigorous cleaning before and after leaving each farm. As secretary of agriculture I will call the commercial fertilizing companies and enlist their cooperation. All of the cages and equipment used to transport chickens will also be thoroughly cleaned and disinfected on a routine basis.

Within 72 hours of shipping birds to market, there will be a pre-slaughter testing on farms within 6 miles of the infected farms.

DDA is asking anyone with small numbers of backyard chickens or other poultry to report any disease or suspicions of disease immediately to the Department at (302) 698-4566.

Effective immediately, DDA is canceling all scheduled farmer- and grower-related meetings in order to prevent spread of the disease and encourages all those in the industry to do the same.

Effective immediately, DDA is asking that all sales or auctions of farm equipment be cancelled in order to prevent spread of the disease. An example of this cooperation is that Sam Walter’s annual farm machinery consignment sale in Canterbury has been postponed.

Effective immediately, DDA is banning all sales of live poultry in Delaware.

I urge all of our poultry producers on Delmarva to enforce the strictest of biosecurity procedures on their properties.

I also would like to seek the cooperation of utility workers when they visit farms for telephone, natural gas, or electric needs.



19 posted on 02/10/2004 2:44:01 PM PST by Gabz (Smoke gnatzies: small minds buzzing in your business - SWAT'EM)
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To: Gabz
I still wonder if the avian strain and a human strain could combine in a pig. It's not really an Outer Limits thing -- happens all the time with innocuous viruses. If anyone is unlucky enough to live between a poultry operation and a hog farm I would think about taking a vacation upwind.
20 posted on 02/10/2004 2:56:22 PM PST by steve86
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To: BearWash
I've got no idea about crossing of strains in hogs.
21 posted on 02/10/2004 3:07:26 PM PST by Gabz (Smoke gnatzies: small minds buzzing in your business - SWAT'EM)
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To: Hurricane Andrew; antivenom
They did confirm the outbreak occurred in a flock owned by Perdue on the 6pm news.
22 posted on 02/10/2004 3:16:12 PM PST by Gabz (Smoke gnatzies: small minds buzzing in your business - SWAT'EM)
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To: Gabz
Those poor farmers. What a hit to take.

Dang, I wish I'd have bought some poultry futures.

23 posted on 02/10/2004 4:23:19 PM PST by tiki
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To: tiki
LOL!!!

There are inherent risks in all businesses, including agriculture. The scary part of this is how easily the dang thing can spread.

Sussex County, Delaware has more chickens per square mile than people - as does much of the DelMarVa Penninsula. The chicken farm across the road from me has more chickens on it than all of Accomac County has people.

I have no interest in the poultry industry, financial or otherwise, I just hate seeing this type of thing happen to people just trying to earn a living.
24 posted on 02/10/2004 4:57:17 PM PST by Gabz (Smoke gnatzies: small minds buzzing in your business - SWAT'EM)
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To: Gabz
Sussex County is also the #1 broiler producing county in the nation. Nearly twice as much as the nearest competitior, and more than many states. Needless to say, this will have a big impact on the county and state's finances. And this after the county was considering a one time 25% property tax rebate due to the strong collections from the booming real estate market here. Oh well...
25 posted on 02/10/2004 6:39:57 PM PST by Hurricane Andrew
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To: Hurricane Andrew
I'm very aware of the #1 ranking of Sussex County. Which makes this so much more important to get rid of it as fast as possible. It is so easily spread and poultry is major money for the entire region - not just SC.

My husband works for IBM and one of their service contracts is with Perdue. It just so happens that he has a service call at Perdue-Accomac tomorrow morning, which is the second largest processing plant (not sure if just in the Perdue chain or in the industry). I'm sure he will be getting an earful because he will be in the admin offices, not the processing section.

For your sake (and the rest of the SC property owners and poultry farmers) I hope this is cleared up very quickly.

I wonder if there is someway to blame Mama Minner for this blow to the poultry industry? she's done enough damage to other industries, why not? If it spreads to anywhere else on the penninsula, I'll find a way...........

26 posted on 02/10/2004 6:52:01 PM PST by Gabz (Smoke gnatzies: small minds buzzing in your business - SWAT'EM)
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To: Gabz; Ace2U; Alamo-Girl; Alas; alfons; alphadog; amom; AndreaZingg; Anonymous2; ApesForEvolution; ..
Rights, farms, environment ping.
Let me know if you wish to be added or removed from this list.
I don't get offended if you want to be removed.
27 posted on 02/10/2004 9:30:03 PM PST by farmfriend ( Isaiah 55:10,11)
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To: farmfriend; Hurricane Andrew; antivenom
This is not looking good - at least in the short term - more foreign bans on exporting of US poultry.

About 80 Delaware chicken farms quarantined

Everyone gets hurt with this - but the heck with the state of Delaware and the heck with Perdue - I feel for the guy who just had 73,000 chickens destroyed, and his chicken houses quarantined for a couple of months - no chickens equals no income......

Perdue Farms linked to second avian flu case

28 posted on 02/10/2004 11:17:39 PM PST by Gabz (Smoke gnatzies: small minds buzzing in your business - SWAT'EM)
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To: Hurricane Andrew; farmfriend
Check out the Delaware State News and the News Journal in the morning.

I don't want to post the State News links right now, because they will probably get moved to the archives and direct links won't work in the morning. Just click on the link for Dover.

The stories are not pretty. This is serious stuff.

29 posted on 02/10/2004 11:53:18 PM PST by Gabz (Smoke gnatzies: small minds buzzing in your business - SWAT'EM)
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To: tiki; Gabz
Don't you mean "sold" some chicken futures? Heck, I've never seen any chicken futures, but I understand there are futures in eggs, and about five years ago futures in weather was started.

Gabz, you've got the 'somnia again?

30 posted on 02/11/2004 12:02:06 AM PST by Slip18
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To: Slip18
you've got the 'somnia again?

sorta - am gonna finish my beer and cigarette and hit the pillow. I've got the yung'uns clothes ready and everything ready in the back pack - and even though daddy does the morning bus routine, I still like to at least say good morning to her before she leaves! Then I go back to bed!!!

31 posted on 02/11/2004 12:09:53 AM PST by Gabz (Smoke gnatzies: small minds buzzing in your business - SWAT'EM)
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To: Gabz
Please don't laugh, but I'm actually drinking Ginger Ale! LOL! Cyber has the morning shift, and I'm usually the evening shift. Works well.
32 posted on 02/11/2004 12:12:38 AM PST by Slip18
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To: Slip18
It's funny - I use a lot of ginger in my cooking - but i can't stand ginger ale.
33 posted on 02/11/2004 12:20:31 AM PST by Gabz (Smoke gnatzies: small minds buzzing in your business - SWAT'EM)
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To: Gabz
You know how your mom always gave you something that made you feel better when you were sick? I'm sure you do it with Jax now. We always got Ginger Ale and soda crackers. It's something I use when my tummy is upset from all of the cacti in bloom right now.

Heck, we're in bloom here all year long, and I wonder why I have allergies. LOL!

34 posted on 02/11/2004 12:26:29 AM PST by Slip18
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To: farmfriend
BTT!!!!!!
35 posted on 02/11/2004 3:04:17 AM PST by E.G.C.
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To: Gabz
This is bad. One of our customers (a grower, but not one affected by this) mentioned this to us about half an hour after your initial post yesterday afternoon. I'm sure we'll hear from more today. Needless to say, everyone is very nervous. The next few days are going to be crucial.

As for Ruth Ann, no need to pin this on her. She's done. She's PO'd just about every constituency and group in the state except for the lesbian-gay-transgender folks. The way she's going, I'm shocked she's running for re-election. I figured for sure that the Dems put her up to ram through all of the garbage the past 3 years and make her the scapegoat, paving the way for Lt. Gov. Carney. That's why no one should take political advice or analysis from me for anything more than passing curiousity :-)
36 posted on 02/11/2004 6:05:53 AM PST by Hurricane Andrew
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To: Hurricane Andrew
The next few days are going to be more than crucial - and it's going to be a few weeks, I fear, not just a few days.

From the online version it seems that nearly the entire main section of the News Journal is devoted to this story.

I was being facetious about pinning it on Ruth Ann, I too am surprised she is seeking re-election. But I foresee her goig the way of her political mentor - one-term Sherm.
37 posted on 02/11/2004 9:09:58 AM PST by Gabz (Smoke gnatzies: small minds buzzing in your business - SWAT'EM)
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To: BearWash
RE: mutation of virus strains from chickens and hogs.....

Mutation, human infection a concern. Like all flu viruses, strains found here may change, experts say

38 posted on 02/11/2004 9:13:39 AM PST by Gabz (Smoke gnatzies: small minds buzzing in your business - SWAT'EM)
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