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AIDS Rising in Black Male College Students
ABC 7 ^ | February 10, 2004

Posted on 02/10/2004 6:14:35 PM PST by yonif

SAN FRANCISCO (AP) - A sudden, surprising increase in HIV infections has been discovered among male black college students in North Carolina, and officials fear the same is probably happening across the South.

The upsurge is driven by young men having risky sexual encounters with other men. Typically they do not consider themselves to be gay or bisexual and may even have girlfriends, as well.

"It's a public health emergency. I don't know any other way to put it," said Dr. Peter Leone, HIV medical director at the state Health Department.

The increase was first noticed in late 2002, and officials now believe in began in mid-2001 and is still continuing.

The high rate of AIDS infection among U.S. blacks has been one of the most striking difficulties of AIDS prevention.

Blacks are 11 times more likely than white Americans to get AIDS. Even though they make up 12 percent of the population, they account for 39 percent of AIDS cases and 54 percent of new HIV infections.

Among black men, like whites, the leading cause of infection is sex with other men. Experts have long lamented the high rate of risky sex among gay black men. Poverty is often listed as a strong contributor, so the new findings among relatively well-off college students were unexpected.

"We are very concerned about it," said Dr. Ron Valdiserri, deputy HIV chief at the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. "Most Americans would not think about college students as a high-risk group."

Indeed, a CDC (website - news) study on 10 campuses in the 1990s found a very low infection rate.

The North Carolina data were presented Tuesday in San Francisco at the 11th Annual Retrovirus Conference.

Also at the conference, officials presented newly gathered data on HIV infections in New York City. Overall, 1 percent of the city's population carries the virus, including 4 percent of men in their 40s.

Nationwide, an estimated 900,000 people have HIV. The CDC says that in recent years infections have risen somewhat among gay men of all races and fallen slightly among women.

The North Carolina researchers found 84 newly infected male college students over the past three years, 73 of them black. Only one black student admitted using injected drugs, and just two said they had sex only with women. The rest apparently were infected through sex with men.

"The concern is this is our best and brightest within the minority population who are coming down with a lifelong and potentially lethal infection," Leone said.

The researchers said they suspect a similar upsurge may be occurring among black male college students across the South.

"We have no reason to think this is limited to North Carolina," said the CDC's Dr. Lisa Fitzpatrick.

Leone said HIV appears to have been recently introduced among black college students. People are much more likely than usual to pass on the virus through sex during their first weeks of infection, and this might explain why so many students have caught it.

When the students were questioned, three-quarters said they thought they were not at high risk of HIV, despite frequent anal intercourse without condoms with different male partners.

"Part of it is message fatigue," Leone said. "They've grown up hearing this thing. It's old stuff to them. They just ignore it."

Another possible factor may be an especially intense stigma against HIV and homosexuality in the South, making the students less likely to discuss their sexual identity or consider themselves gay.

"We have a very marginalized group," he said. "They don't identify with the messages targeted to gay white men."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: North Carolina
KEYWORDS: aids; blackmales; blacks; cdc; generationy; hiv

1 posted on 02/10/2004 6:14:37 PM PST by yonif
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To: yonif
Most Americans would not think about college students as a high-risk group."

huh?

2 posted on 02/10/2004 6:17:37 PM PST by Unknown Freeper
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To: yonif; mykdsmom
three-quarters said they thought they were not at high risk of HIV, despite frequent anal intercourse without condoms with different male partners

The mind boggles.

(NC ping)

3 posted on 02/10/2004 6:17:40 PM PST by Tax-chick (Still more than 8 months remaining until the election - is this boring or what?)
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To: yonif
The wonderful "gays" continue their mass murder of innocents.

It's all Bush's fault.

4 posted on 02/10/2004 6:17:54 PM PST by FormerACLUmember (Man rises to greatness if greatness is expected of him)
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To: yonif
AIDS Rising in Black Male College Students

Well, obviously the solution is more education ...

Oops, wait a minute, they're already educated ...

"We have a very marginalized group," he said. "They don't identify with the messages targeted to gay white men."

Ahh, that's it, it's all about racism. Apparently messages about the dangers of unprotected sex with a white gay male just don't translate properly and convey the dangers of unprotected sex with a black gay male. We need a multi-million dollar advertising campaign because somehow the view is different when a black male is being barebacked. Silly me.

5 posted on 02/10/2004 6:20:08 PM PST by dirtboy (We have come here not to insult Howard Dean, but to bury him...)
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To: yonif
The upsurge is driven by young men having risky sexual encounters with other men. Typically they do not consider themselves to be gay or bisexual and may even have girlfriends, as well.

So if I have a T-bone steak I can still consider myself a vegetarian?

6 posted on 02/10/2004 6:20:20 PM PST by Lizavetta (Savage is right - extreme liberalism is a mental disorder.)
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To: FormerACLUmember
Man in man=gay. Gay=aids aids=death. They be needin some edumacation.
7 posted on 02/10/2004 6:22:31 PM PST by Ron in Acreage
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To: yonif
The concern is this is our best and brightest within the minority population...

This sure doesn't speak for the minority population if this is the "best and brightest."

8 posted on 02/10/2004 6:27:16 PM PST by Rudder
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To: yonif
"The upsurge is driven by young men having risky sexual encounters with other men."

So don't do that. Hey I just cured the problem!
9 posted on 02/10/2004 6:30:34 PM PST by CzarNicky (The problem with bad ideas is that they seemed like good ideas at the time.)
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To: Lizavetta
So if I have a T-bone steak I can still consider myself a vegetarian?

No, but if you get T-boned by gays on a regular basis, you could consider yourself to be really stoopid.

11 posted on 02/10/2004 6:38:45 PM PST by dirtboy (We have come here not to insult Howard Dean, but to bury him...)
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To: yonif
Yesterday, hubby had a discussion with a coworker regarding the general decay of society. The coworker is a black female who has a son in high school. She says that her son regularly complains about the homosexual activities that occur in the hallways and locker rooms. He says there is kissing and what-not out in the open. Nothing is done about it.
12 posted on 02/10/2004 6:44:08 PM PST by petitfour
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To: FormerACLUmember
What's wrong with black women anyway?
13 posted on 02/10/2004 6:47:47 PM PST by CROSSHIGHWAYMAN (I don't believe anything a Democrat says. Bill Clinton set the standard!)
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To: CROSSHIGHWAYMAN
What's wrong with black women anyway?

They vote for the rats. They are doomed.

15 posted on 02/10/2004 6:55:04 PM PST by FormerACLUmember (Man rises to greatness if greatness is expected of him)
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To: machiventa
Sounds like some great parties you go to.
16 posted on 02/10/2004 6:56:06 PM PST by FormerACLUmember (Man rises to greatness if greatness is expected of him)
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To: yonif
Actions do have consequences....
Some folks will never acknowledge that...

That's their problem...

Semper Fi
17 posted on 02/10/2004 6:58:17 PM PST by river rat (Militant Islam is a cult, flirting with extinction)
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To: yonif
Darwin is pretty relentless.

The failure of sex ed classes to impart knowledge to the students about the incredible danger from many diseases caused by anality not to mention the tissue damage issues makes a strong case against allowing any kind of sex ed in the schools. It never helps.
19 posted on 02/10/2004 7:08:07 PM PST by George W. Bush (It's the Congress, stupid.)
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To: yonif
Shouldn't be putting that particular appendage in a sphincter hole that wasn't made for that particular kinky. You'll live longer.
20 posted on 02/10/2004 7:08:15 PM PST by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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To: yonif
Blacks are involved? AND fairies are involved? Why isn't the federal government doing something? This is just more proof of the eveil of non-deviant white guys!
21 posted on 02/10/2004 7:08:46 PM PST by Tacis
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To: Lizavetta; dirtboy
The field of public health already classsifies men who do not identify themselves as homosexual but engage in homosexual activities as a group labelled: "men seeking men." This label is politically corrected and sanitized by using the acronym: "MSM." By using that term, you can remove yourself even further from the actual activity they are engaging in.

As hard as it is to believe, there truly are men who engage in homosexual activities who do not believe they are homos. So maybe the classification described above is useful.

In the black community, I think there is less acceptance of homosexuals, as compared to the white community, hence more incentive to not view yourself as a homosexual, even if you are one. So that may explain why public sevice announcements don't work with them.

Finally: In answer to the question:

So if I have a T-bone steak I can still consider myself a vegetarian?

You can consider yourself a vegetarian seeking a carnivorous experience---or VSC for short

22 posted on 02/10/2004 7:13:27 PM PST by eeman
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To: yonif
The upsurge is driven by young men having risky sexual encounters with other men. Typically they do not consider themselves to be gay or bisexual...

If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck...

Not to be insensitive or crude or anything, but isn't there the slightest chance that some of this might possibly be related to the obsession with the derriere within rap/hip-hop culture? I mean, from "Baby Got Back" years ago, to these soft-porn videos like "Right Thurr" that prominently feature booty-shaking and more booty-shaking...is there not, perhaps, an unhealthy fetish with the posterior as a sexual object rather than as a waste-disposal site?

23 posted on 02/10/2004 7:14:35 PM PST by Choose Ye This Day (Then: "Ask not what your country can do for you" Now: "You sit down. You had your say.")
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To: yonif
>>Blacks are 11 times more likely than white Americans to get AIDS<< Man what a racist disease, picking on those poor black guys. Or is it a fact they place themselves at risk, just like they place themselves at risk of going to jail in greater numbers than whites because they commit more crimes.

>>The concern is this is our best and brightest within the minority population who are coming down with a lifelong and potentially lethal infection,"<< If these guys are the best and the brightest how much greater is the spread among the stupid.

Marriage is the only answer Let gays get married and they will stop being so free with their sex they will stick with their Spouses . LMFAO

24 posted on 02/10/2004 7:15:04 PM PST by sgtbono2002 (I aint wrong, I aint sorry , and I am probably going to do it again.)
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To: MNLDS
Actually, I think it has a lot to do with the pure contempt for women that is expressed in most rap songs.
25 posted on 02/10/2004 7:16:56 PM PST by livius
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To: sgtbono2002
LMFAO

May not be approprite language on this thread

26 posted on 02/10/2004 7:20:44 PM PST by woofie
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To: livius
That could be a large part of it, as well.

But rap is never about love, only lust, instant male gratification, power, excitement. That fits in well with promiscuous homosexuals and NBA stars.
27 posted on 02/10/2004 7:21:39 PM PST by Choose Ye This Day (Then: "Ask not what your country can do for you" Now: "You sit down. You had your say.")
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To: machiventa
darn, and I was hoping :)
28 posted on 02/10/2004 7:22:08 PM PST by FormerACLUmember (Man rises to greatness if greatness is expected of him)
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To: Lizavetta
So if I have a T-bone steak I can still consider myself a vegetarian?

Hey, don't hang your tired labels on people, man! You're just carnicurious.

29 posted on 02/10/2004 7:23:08 PM PST by Heyworth
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To: sgtbono2002
Ya know, the subtext to this whole article is the inherent racism of the gay establishment, which doesn't much like or communicate with minority gays.
30 posted on 02/10/2004 7:26:30 PM PST by Heyworth
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To: yonif
Another possible factor may be an especially intense stigma against HIV and homosexuality in the South, making the students less likely to discuss their sexual identity or consider themselves gay.

Stigma??? Please, has any of these people taken a look at their television lately?

The problem isn't "stigma". It is the fact that homosexuality has been legitimized as "just another lifestyle". Also, I have read other articles along these same lines with young men almost looking for AIDs. It is now a badge of honor. Stigma, my foot.

31 posted on 02/10/2004 7:31:53 PM PST by LibertarianLiz
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To: sgtbono2002
Marriage is the only answer Let gays get married and they will stop being so free with their sex they will stick with their Spouses.

Actually it has been shown that gays who think they are an exclusive relationship end up with more aids because they don't use precaution and thier "partner" is playing around.

32 posted on 02/10/2004 7:32:03 PM PST by Bellflower
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To: woofie
Hmmm, some duct tape should fix that right up! :p
33 posted on 02/10/2004 7:39:35 PM PST by Constantine XIII
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To: woofie
My apologies for the offensive F
34 posted on 02/10/2004 7:51:54 PM PST by sgtbono2002 (I aint wrong, I aint sorry , and I am probably going to do it again.)
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To: woofie
Or was it the A that offended, you, I really dont mean to offend.
35 posted on 02/10/2004 7:54:28 PM PST by sgtbono2002 (I aint wrong, I aint sorry , and I am probably going to do it again.)
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To: eeman
Your deconstruction of PC terminology is perfect. Well done, sir!
36 posted on 02/10/2004 7:59:41 PM PST by FreedomPoster (This space intentionally blank)
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To: sgtbono2002
Or was it the A that offended, you, I really dont mean to offend.

mmmmm... perhaps it should read LMBAO

(Its a joke)

37 posted on 02/10/2004 8:18:08 PM PST by woofie ( If at first you don't succeed, destroy all evidence that you tried)
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To: George W. Bush
The failure of sex ed classes to impart knowledge to the students about the incredible danger from many diseases caused by anality not to mention the tissue damage issues makes a strong case against allowing any kind of sex ed in the schools. It never helps.

Actually, the problem with sex ed is that it is working too well -- in some schools, the intention is less to prevent pregnancy and disease and more to corrupt their morals.

38 posted on 02/10/2004 8:19:46 PM PST by Siamese Princess
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To: river rat
Actions do have consequences.... Some folks will never acknowledge that... That's their problem...

Unfortunately, River Rat, it isn't just their problem -- it is everyone elses, too. When they get sick, who pays for their medical treatment? If they can't work, who supports them? Ironically enough, the longer those with HIV live, the more time they have to spread the disease around further, which makes the problem even worse.

39 posted on 02/10/2004 8:24:13 PM PST by Siamese Princess
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To: yonif
I don't understand how this could happen. I thought African-Americans were an officially protected minority. I guess they need some other form of protection.
40 posted on 02/10/2004 8:24:35 PM PST by Malesherbes
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To: Siamese Princess
Excactly. A stamp of "okay ways" immediately summons many to exceed it.We're going to be seeing the ravage of earlier things and "gay" black males have little to do with it.
41 posted on 02/10/2004 8:49:39 PM PST by noodler
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To: eeman
>>You can consider yourself a vegetarian seeking a carnivorous experience---or VSC for short<<

Good one!!

This issue is fully explained by the truism:

A.I.D.S = Anally Inserted Death Sentence

Makes no difference if it's MM, MF, or multiples thereof.

It's explained thoroughly in Michael Fumento's book "The Myth of Heterosexual Aids" (1st ed. c. 1990 and still quite valid....lots available on Amazon). He's also published about 45 articles on AIDS since 1986....see: http://www.fumento.com/
42 posted on 02/10/2004 8:50:17 PM PST by skeptoid
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To: yonif
I don't know any other way to put it," said Dr. Peter Leone, HIV medical director at the state Health Department.

Hmmm; "Evolution in action" comes to mind.
43 posted on 02/10/2004 11:28:00 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (If God didn't want a politician hanging from every tree, He wouldn't have created so much rope.)
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To: FormerACLUmember
Now now, it is only Bush's fault indirectly. It was all Reagan's fault originally remember? Sarcasm off....
44 posted on 02/12/2004 10:25:02 AM PST by cupcakes
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To: dirtboy
Yup, and I wonder who it was who has been pumping the message out in the black community that they are different and the rules need not apply to them? Take that to this level and perhaps black men actually believed they were somehow immune to this "white gay boy disease".
45 posted on 02/12/2004 10:26:57 AM PST by cupcakes
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To: yonif
Blacks are 11 times more likely than white Americans to get AIDS. Even though they make up 12 percent of the population, they account for 39 percent of AIDS cases and 54 percent of new HIV infections.

Hmmmm Just like Africa. What's up with this statistic and is it even legal to quote or know it?

46 posted on 02/12/2004 10:27:49 AM PST by biblewonk (I must try to answer all bible questions.)
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To: newgeezer
ping
47 posted on 02/12/2004 10:28:20 AM PST by biblewonk (I must try to answer all bible questions.)
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To: newgeezer
Poverty is often listed as a strong contributor, so the new findings among relatively well-off college students were unexpected.

"I'm poor so I screwed dis dude"

"If I don't get a job quick I'm gonna screw some dude"

Yeah that's it.

48 posted on 02/12/2004 10:48:04 AM PST by biblewonk (I must try to answer all bible questions.)
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