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Terrorists ready for holy war in 40 American states
The Herald ^
| February 11 2004
| IAN BRUCE
Posted on 02/10/2004 10:25:24 PM PST by Bobibutu
Terrorists ready for holy war in 40 American states
IAN BRUCE, Defence Correspondent February 11 2004
ISLAMIC terror commandos are being infiltrated into the US in preparation for "an American jihad" from within, according to intelligence sources. Dozens of radicals trained in camps in western Pakistan and Kashmir are already believed to have slipped into the country and been absorbed in sleeper cells in unsuspecting Muslim communities as the vanguard of a holy army estimated to be several hundred strong. An FBI spokesman said al Qaeda and allied organisations were thought to be operating in 40 American states, awaiting orders for terror attacks. An official said up to 400 known radicals had passed through the camps. Many of the camps are run by Harakat-ul-Ansar and Lashkar-e-Taiba, militant groups with links to al Qaeda and a history of grooming guerrillas to attack security forces. India and Pakistan last month announced a peace initiative on disputed Kashmir. General Pervez Musharraf, Pakistan's president, said his country would not allow terrorist training on its soil. However, Indian and US intelligence agencies claim to have surveillance photographs and intercepted signals which show that between 60 and 70 camps are still in use. Some which were closed after the September 11 attacks on the US have also been reactivated. Pakistani authorities have arrested hundreds of al Qaeda suspects, including Abu Zubaydah, its top recruiting officer, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, chief of operations, and Ramzi Binalshibh, paymaster of the September 11 hijackers. US officials suspect that Pakistan's inter-services intelligence agency, which created and fostered the Taliban movement in Afghanistan, has not broken all its Islamic links with terrorist organisations. FBI agents last year arrested 11 men, including nine US citizens, for involvement in what became known as "the Virginia jihad". All were accused of engaging in terrorist training at camps run by Lashkar-e-Taiba. Six have since pleaded guilty. Ashraf Jehangir Qazi, Pakistan's ambassador to the US, yesterday denied the existence of any terrorist camps in his country or in Pakistan-controlled Kashmir. In Ukraine yesterday, the foreign ministry denied reports that scientists had sold nuclear weapons to al Qaeda. Markian Lubkiyvskyi, a spokesman, said Ukraine had transferred all its nuclear weapons to Russia by June 1, 1996.
TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Virginia; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: aliens; harakatulansar; jihadinamerica; lashkaretaiba; pakistan; redcross; virginiajihad
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posted on
02/10/2004 10:25:26 PM PST
by
Bobibutu
To: Bobibutu
ISLAMIC terror commandos are being infiltrated into the US in preparation for "an American jihad" from withinAs long as they'll work cheap and fill the jobs of American businesses that Americans can't fill they're always welcome...
Just tell them to be sure and send in their(maybe your) phony SS number so the Bush administration can send their relatives their SS checks.
2
posted on
02/10/2004 10:33:36 PM PST
by
lewislynn
To: Bobibutu
Let them try.
second thing... I have never heard of a british paper called the Herald...
3
posted on
02/10/2004 10:33:48 PM PST
by
GeronL
(www.ArmorforCongress.com ............... Support a FReeper for Congress)
To: GeronL
I believe the Hearld is from Scotland...Edinbugh maybe?
prisoner6
4
posted on
02/10/2004 10:40:08 PM PST
by
prisoner6
(Right Wing Nuts hold the country together as the loose screws of the left fall out!)
To: bang_list
PING
5
posted on
02/10/2004 10:41:14 PM PST
by
~Kim4VRWC's~
(Please pray for our troops.... http://anyservicemember.navy.mil/)
To: Joe Brower
PING
6
posted on
02/10/2004 10:41:34 PM PST
by
~Kim4VRWC's~
(Please pray for our troops.... http://anyservicemember.navy.mil/)
To: lewislynn
I hear ya
7
posted on
02/10/2004 10:41:53 PM PST
by
Finalapproach29er
("Don't shoot Mongo, you'll only make him mad.")
To: prisoner6
Glasgow
To: lewislynn
ISLAMIC terror commandos are being infiltrated into the US in preparation for "an American jihad" from within, according to intelligence sources. Isn't this open border, immigration "free for all" fun?
I would be surprised if there weren't many thousands of these murdering fanatics in this country.
9
posted on
02/10/2004 10:47:11 PM PST
by
Joe Hadenuf
(I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
To: GeronL
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posted on
02/10/2004 10:48:47 PM PST
by
Drammach
To: lewislynn
As long as they'll work cheap and fill the jobs of American businesses that Americans can't fill they're always welcome... So we need them to commit acts of terrorism Americans won't commit.
11
posted on
02/10/2004 10:49:46 PM PST
by
Paleo Conservative
(Do not remove this tag under penalty of law.)
To: Drammach
'Sleeper cells' of al Qaeda active in U.S. despite war
Posted by kattracks
On 02/10/2004 10:36:56 PM PST with 5 comments
Washington Times ^ | 2/11/04 | Jerry Seper
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posted on
02/10/2004 10:52:36 PM PST
by
Bobibutu
To: Drammach
ok already.
You work for them or something? =o)
13
posted on
02/10/2004 10:56:17 PM PST
by
GeronL
(www.ArmorforCongress.com ............... Support a FReeper for Congress)
To: Bobibutu
How about that? We're ready for it too.
14
posted on
02/10/2004 10:56:19 PM PST
by
thoughtomator
("What do I know? I'm just the President." - George W. Bush, Superbowl XXXVIII halftime statement)
To: Bobibutu
"However, Indian and US intelligence agencies claim to have surveillance photographs and intercepted signals which show that between 60 and 70 camps are still in use. Some which were closed after the September 11 attacks on the US have also been reactivated."
So what do we do? Will Pakistan prove to be a true ally, or not?
Do we wait for internal strikes, by people that plan to die anyway?
Do we pre-emptively fly into Pakistan, and get it started?
Islam wishes to start a WW.
To: Paleo Conservative
So we need them to commit acts of terrorism Americans won't commit. Someone must think so. They're getting through the open gates and no one in our government seems to care for fear it might slow down the Mexican trucks and bring our outsourced economy to it's knees.
To: Bobibutu
Hold on, Akbar! We've only got 36 states with must-issue concealed carry laws on the books.
17
posted on
02/10/2004 11:07:19 PM PST
by
WorkingClassFilth
(DEFUND PBS & NPR - THE AMERICAN PRAVDA)
To: Bobibutu
ISLAMIC terror commandos are being infiltrated into the US in preparation for "an American jihad" from within, according to intelligence sources. What do they expect? If literally *millions* of illegal aliens infiltrate into this country every year or so, why would they be surprised if a few thousand terrorist walk right in with agendas of mass murder?
Isn't this expected?
An FBI spokesman said al Qaeda and allied organizations were thought to be operating in 40 American states, awaiting orders for terror attacks.
Lets see, were are over their bombing the sh*t out of their buddies, and the FBI tells us their fanatical friends are over here setting up shop in 40 states?
While the same time our own politicians are going out of their way to offer driver's licenses, and amensty plans to millions of others that are breaking our laws and entering our country illegally. Is it me, or is this absolute chaos.
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posted on
02/10/2004 11:09:40 PM PST
by
Joe Hadenuf
(I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
To: Bobibutu
...unsuspecting Muslim communitiesNo such thing.
To: Bobibutu
We don't need them we already have the Democrats here.
20
posted on
02/10/2004 11:13:27 PM PST
by
Consort
To: Bobibutu
So how much are these illegals going to cost us in SS monies and are they going to demand divers licenses and the right to vote?
To: GeronL
Let them try.Once wasn't enough for you?
22
posted on
02/10/2004 11:24:08 PM PST
by
Joe Hadenuf
(I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
To: Joe Hadenuf
Oh, I think they might be in for a surprise. I doubt we'll be as relunctant and nice next time.
23
posted on
02/10/2004 11:26:42 PM PST
by
GeronL
(www.ArmorforCongress.com ............... Support a FReeper for Congress)
To: Joe Hadenuf
Once wasn't enough for you?Some of us aren't going to hold our breathes waiting on Gov't if there is a next time.
24
posted on
02/10/2004 11:28:40 PM PST
by
Michael Barnes
(WPNS, 3/1 1st Mar Div.)
To: GeronL
Let them try. Once wasn't enough for you?
Oh, I think they might be in for a surprise. I doubt we'll be as relunctant and nice next time.
Huh?
The intelligence sources say they are thought to be in 40 states and your telling me you think *they* are in for a surprise?
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posted on
02/10/2004 11:33:55 PM PST
by
Joe Hadenuf
(I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
To: Joe Hadenuf
I bet we have them outnumbered. and we know where their families and cousins live.
26
posted on
02/10/2004 11:38:00 PM PST
by
GeronL
(www.ArmorforCongress.com ............... Support a FReeper for Congress)
To: GeronL
What?
27
posted on
02/10/2004 11:41:46 PM PST
by
Joe Hadenuf
(I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
To: Bobibutu; mhking; 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub; Ragtime Cowgirl; Calpernia; Alamo-Girl; windchime; ...
Bumps on the head
28
posted on
02/10/2004 11:48:00 PM PST
by
ATOMIC_PUNK
(I may never have the Courage to say some words but i will always have it to say what i believe !!!)
To: GeronL
Probably the saddest aspect to any new organized coordinated attack is that after an initial period of panic (which could be brief and as little as a few hours), I would expect that the rank and file in the americas will begin to take their frustarations out on anybody who remotely looks Muslim or Mid Eastern.
That will be a very wide net - it will probably snare and victimize many Indians and Hindus, innocent Muslims, and some sad folks who bear even a superficial resemblance to people from that part of the world.
If a coordinated attack victimizes americans in significant numbers (and the benchmark here is the 3,000 victimized on 9-11-01), say 10,000, 20,000 or 30,000 nationwide, I think things will get very ugly, very quickly in the hours after such a formidable attack.
A shame. I hope we avert such a disaster but I think another attack is inevitable. I don;t think the reaction I am describing is inevitable, but I feel it is likely.
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posted on
02/10/2004 11:55:23 PM PST
by
HitmanLV
(I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.)
To: Bobibutu; *JIHAD IN AMERICA
Thanks for posting this!
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posted on
02/11/2004 12:36:27 AM PST
by
Ernest_at_the_Beach
(The terrorists and their supporters declared war on the United States - and war is what they got!!!!)
To: HitmanNY
Probably the saddest aspect to any new organized coordinated attack is that after an initial period of panic (which could be brief and as little as a few hours), I would expect that the rank and file in the americas will begin to take their frustarations out on anybody who remotely looks Muslim or Mid Eastern. I'm more worried that the reaction will be, "we brought it on ourselves", "we deserved it", "we had it coming", etc.
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posted on
02/11/2004 2:08:18 AM PST
by
Paleo Conservative
(Do not remove this tag under penalty of law.)
To: GeronL
second thing... I have never heard of a british paper called the Herald... It's the best-seller where I live.
To: Bobibutu
I bet Bush and our Intelligence knows this and are keeping a quiet watchful eye on them. I have faith in our President.
33
posted on
02/11/2004 4:31:18 AM PST
by
beckysueb
(Lady Liberty is in danger! Bush/Cheney 04.)
To: Consort
we already have the Democrats here. That's just it. How are we to tell the terrorists from the liberals? They behave in similar ways (Hate American, Bush, they smell...).
34
posted on
02/11/2004 4:36:27 AM PST
by
Snowy
To: Bobibutu
Terrorists ready for holy war in 40 American states Which 40?
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posted on
02/11/2004 4:44:40 AM PST
by
wai-ming
To: radiohead; Valin
LEOs at all levels will tell you that there is no cooperation with their efforts in America's muslim communities. These terrorists, either home grown or infiltrated, move in, blend in, pray to allah for success in their murdering plans at the local mosque and nobody says a word. Same thing in the UK.
Oh, maybe some muslim looking to convince us that they really are just like us will write an editorial...I guess that's good enough.
If these muslim communities were as "peaceful" as they want us to believe there would be call jams on the anti-terror hotlines.
A former associate is on the JTF representing the NYPD. The most common call they get is some muslim trying to get them to solve a personal problem they have with another muslim. They drop a dime hoping their problem will be deported.
36
posted on
02/11/2004 4:51:56 AM PST
by
wtc911
(Who are you gonna believe, me or your own eyes?)
To: lewislynn
John Kerry and the Democrats are bringing them in here. When the war first started I remember Ellen Ratner saying she wished the war would go badly for us. She being a big liberal spokes person and on the inside of the Democrat Party speaks for itself.
90% of illegals voted Democrat last election. This speaks for itself.
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posted on
02/11/2004 4:55:25 AM PST
by
gunnedah
To: beckysueb
"I bet Bush and our Intelligence knows this and are keeping a quiet watchful eye on them. I have faith in our President."
I'd like to agree with you, but after numerous recent intel failures do you really feel comfortable?
To: Bobibutu
punctuation on
Terrorists ready for holy war in 40 American states
IAN BRUCE, Defence Correspondent February 11 2004
ISLAMIC terror commandos are being infiltrated into the US in preparation for "an American jihad" from within, according to intelligence sources. Dozens of radicals trained in camps in western Pakistan and Kashmir are already believed to have slipped into the country and been absorbed in sleeper cells in unsuspecting Muslim communities as the vanguard of a holy army estimated to be several hundred strong.
An FBI spokesman said al Qaeda and allied organisations were thought to be operating in 40 American states, awaiting orders for terror attacks. An official said up to 400 known radicals had passed through the camps.
Many of the camps are run by Harakat-ul-Ansar and Lashkar-e-Taiba, militant groups with links to al Qaeda and a history of grooming guerrillas to attack security forces.
India and Pakistan last month announced a peace initiative on disputed Kashmir. General Pervez Musharraf, Pakistan's president, said his country would not allow terrorist training on its soil. However, Indian and US intelligence agencies claim to have surveillance photographs and intercepted signals which show that between 60 and 70 camps are still in use. Some which were closed after the September 11 attacks on the US have also been reactivated.
Pakistani authorities have arrested hundreds of al Qaeda suspects, including Abu Zubaydah, its top recruiting officer, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, chief of operations, and Ramzi Binalshibh, paymaster of the September 11 hijackers.
US officials suspect that Pakistan's inter-services intelligence agency, which created and fostered the Taliban movement in Afghanistan, has not broken all its Islamic links with terrorist organisations. FBI agents last year arrested 11 men, including nine US citizens, for involvement in what became known as "the Virginia jihad". All were accused of engaging in terrorist training at camps run by Lashkar-e-Taiba. Six have since pleaded guilty. Ashraf Jehangir Qazi, Pakistan's ambassador to the US, yesterday denied the existence of any terrorist camps in his country or in Pakistan-controlled Kashmir.
In Ukraine yesterday, the foreign ministry denied reports that scientists had sold nuclear weapons to al Qaeda. Markian Lubkiyvskyi, a spokesman, said Ukraine had transferred all its nuclear weapons to Russia by June 1, 1996.
39
posted on
02/11/2004 5:02:47 AM PST
by
kt56
To: wai-ming
I guess the ones where there aren't guns and ammunition
in every home. Even better, where gun control has been
in effect for awhile. Everybody around here keeps hunting
guns because we aren't so far removed from the times when
it was a wilderness here.
40
posted on
02/11/2004 5:03:06 AM PST
by
Twinkie
To: Bobibutu
Which 10 states are not on Al Qaeda's enemies list?
41
posted on
02/11/2004 5:03:51 AM PST
by
dennisw
("Cuz we'll put a boot in your ass it's the American way" - Toby Keith)
To: panaxanax
Even if US spying were as good as humanly possible given the present staff, it would still be impossible to catch all these goons. That's the facts of life.
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posted on
02/11/2004 5:08:24 AM PST
by
drlevy88
To: radiohead
...unsuspecting Muslim communities ... No such thing.You got that right! I wonder how many Slimes here in the USA knew about 9/11 before it happened. Obviously, they didn't know the details but I'm sure there was plenty of scuttlebutt about an attack here in the states.
43
posted on
02/11/2004 5:09:41 AM PST
by
mikegi
To: lewislynn
Time to buy some ammo.
To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
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posted on
02/11/2004 5:16:39 AM PST
by
Joe Brower
(The Constitution defines Conservatism.)
To: Bobibutu
Yes- but the Democrats ,seeking political correctness--are
still insisting our Law enforcement keep looking for M.O.M.
and other old soldiers.
To: Joe Hadenuf
"Is it me, or is this absolute chaos."
It's not only absolute chaos, it's also absolutely nuts!
To: wtc911
"LEOs at all levels will tell you that there is no cooperation with their efforts in America's muslim communities."
That's a fact. And I've also noticed another alarming fact: In the local college some two miles from my house (in Northern Illinois) the number of Moslems is HUGE! Without exaggeration, Moslems make up at least 40% of the student population; I take a night course for fun, and when I go to the library the majority of "students" there are Moslems, and most of them are women (easy to tell: the ever-present head scarf on virtually all of them, and the floor length bathrobe-type thing they love to wear on most of them). Many of the men wear the skull cap, and there are some who wear the checkered dish rag that Yasser Arafat wears.
To: Joe Brower
dang tootin Joe! Although somehow I think these ChickSh*ts are too afraid to do combat with us.
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posted on
02/11/2004 6:41:13 AM PST
by
~Kim4VRWC's~
(Please pray for our troops.... http://anyservicemember.navy.mil/)
To: Joe Brower
LOL ChickSh*ts = chicken!!!! ChickenSh*ts...
50
posted on
02/11/2004 6:42:32 AM PST
by
~Kim4VRWC's~
(Please pray for our troops.... http://anyservicemember.navy.mil/)
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