Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Communist rebels warn U.S. troops to stay away or face attacks - War games near Spratlys
AP ^ | February 11, 2004

Posted on 02/11/2004 10:06:37 AM PST by Tailgunner Joe

Communist guerrillas threatened Wednesday to attack American troops participating in annual war exercises in the Philippines later this month if they stray into rebel zones.

About 2,500 U.S. Marines and 2,300 Filipino soldiers will take part in major combat and live-fire maneuvers from Feb. 23 to March 4.

The exercises, involving 46 American assault and transport aircraft, will bring U.S. troops near security hotspots, including Dinglayan Bay off Aurora, a mountainous province 110 kilometers (70 miles) north of Manila, where New People's Army guerrillas are active.

The Philippine exercise director, Brig. Gen. Rafael Romero, said there is a plan for a beach landing exercise in Dingalan Bay. The area has been adequately secured, he said.

The annual exercises, launched under a 1951 defense treaty to prepare the longtime military allies for joint combat, are aimed at dealing with external threats but would also involve antiterrorism scenarios, Romero said.

Military officials said the exercises are not part of any counter-insurgency operation and will not include a specific imaginary target.

However, communist rebel spokesman Gregorio Rosal said the exercise in Aurora, where the guerrillas maintain a major front, could be a cover for a clandestine surveillance or anti-insurgency operation.

He said the rebels will attack American or Filipino soldiers if they stray into their lairs or provoke them.

``We will try to avoid trouble but we will be prepared,'' Rosal said. ``Anybody who would make provocative acts would be a target of tactical offensives.''

A leftist group, the New Nationalist Alliance, said holding the exercises near an NPA stronghold was an act of government insincerity and a blow to peace talks that opened Tuesday between government and rebel negotiators in Norway.

The group accused Washington of projecting its power in Asia by deploying U.S. troops in the Philippines, which has become ``America's doormat in the region.''

The alliance said another venue of the exercises, western Palawan province, is crucial to U.S. interests because it is near the Spratlys, a South China Sea region contested by China, the Philippines and four other Asian nations.

President Gloria Macapagal Arroyo, a staunch U.S. ally, said the exercises had nothing to do with the dispute over the Spratly islands, and stressed that military alliance with Washington ``is not aimed at any nation or foe.''

China has protested past military exercises near the Spratlys.

Officials said the exercises on Palawan island, about 580 kilometers (360 miles) southwest of Manila, would focus on computer-based exercises and civic projects: building schools, digging water wells and providing medical services.

In recent years, U.S. forces have also carried out antiterrorist training on southern Mindanao island, where the Philippine military has been fighting Muslim separatists and the extremist group Abu Sayyaf.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: communists; guerrillas; jointexercises; marines; philippines; southeastasia; spratlyislands

1 posted on 02/11/2004 10:06:38 AM PST by Tailgunner Joe
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: Tailgunner Joe
The War Game may be planned to go real.
2 posted on 02/11/2004 10:08:35 AM PST by Semper Paratus
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Tailgunner Joe
Bttt
3 posted on 02/11/2004 10:11:10 AM PST by DoctorMichael (Thats my story, and I'm sticking to it.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Semper Paratus
My thoughts exactly. Looks like someone has volunteered for a few days of live-fire drills. Jolly decent of them, don't you think, to offer your boys such an opportunity ?
4 posted on 02/11/2004 10:11:25 AM PST by Atlantic Friend (Cursum Perficio)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Tailgunner Joe
That would add a taste of realism to the exercises.
5 posted on 02/11/2004 10:11:38 AM PST by RightWhale (Repeal the law of the excluded middle)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Atlantic Friend
The Huks.
6 posted on 02/11/2004 10:12:25 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: Tailgunner Joe
Bring em on....

Killing commies frees the world!!

7 posted on 02/11/2004 10:12:43 AM PST by CROSSHIGHWAYMAN (I don't believe anything a Democrat says. Bill Clinton set the standard!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Eric in the Ozarks
Good old Lansdale would be proud of them.
8 posted on 02/11/2004 10:13:25 AM PST by Atlantic Friend (Cursum Perficio)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: Tailgunner Joe
America's doormat in the region.
Hummm I wonder if they would prefer to be speaking Japanese? Much like the French, the Filipino's seem to have short memories!

He said the rebels will attack American or Filipino soldiers if they stray into their lairs or provoke them.
Not too bright are they?
9 posted on 02/11/2004 10:14:36 AM PST by GrandEagle
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Tailgunner Joe
Communist guerillas on islands call their shots, eh?
10 posted on 02/11/2004 10:14:44 AM PST by onedoug
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Tailgunner Joe
"... and particularly, don't go here, here, or here, because that's where our bases our and we'll shoot you if you come near."
11 posted on 02/11/2004 10:15:34 AM PST by coloradan (Hence, etc.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Tailgunner Joe
" The group accused Washington of projecting its power in Asia by deploying U.S. troops in the Philippines, which has become ``America's doormat in the region.'' "

Time to wipe our feet I'd say....

12 posted on 02/11/2004 10:15:47 AM PST by Kakaze
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Atlantic Friend
My post...
Much like the French, the Filipino's seem to have short memories!
Correction: Some of the French...
No insult intended....
13 posted on 02/11/2004 10:18:25 AM PST by GrandEagle
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: Atlantic Friend; Poohbah; section9; Dog; BOBTHENAILER; Catspaw; Howlin; Miss Marple; Grampa Dave; ..
Yep - the NPA may be in trouble. Dunno if the other major tangos in the Phillipines (Abu Sayyaf, IIRC) are in the area, but this exercise could be a chance to get the troops in position to make those terrorists good terrorists.
14 posted on 02/11/2004 10:19:38 AM PST by hchutch ("I never get involved with my own life. It's too much trouble." - Michael Garibaldi)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: GrandEagle
I have an excellent memory, thank you.
15 posted on 02/11/2004 10:20:05 AM PST by Atlantic Friend (Cursum Perficio)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: Tailgunner Joe
Nothing more valuable than real-world training...
16 posted on 02/11/2004 10:23:08 AM PST by trebb (Ain't God good . . .)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: GrandEagle
None taken, you big bald birdie ! lol

I'll say, these rebel guys are really swell. They rear their ugly head just when heavy ordnance comes their way... Jolly decent of them, we should drink in memory to their departed, brave-but-misguided souls after the end of the military exercise.
17 posted on 02/11/2004 10:23:13 AM PST by Atlantic Friend (Cursum Perficio)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: Tailgunner Joe
Their ideological brethren were responsible for 100 million murders in the 20th century.

Communists, in seeking to abolish virtually every human right, renounce their humanity, and should be dealt with as such.

In other words, they should be treated the way plague-carrying vermin are treated.


18 posted on 02/11/2004 10:23:51 AM PST by FierceDraka (Service and Glory!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Tailgunner Joe
I thought the Chicomms disputed ownership of the Spratleys?
19 posted on 02/11/2004 10:24:53 AM PST by Rebelbase (The Gravy Train makes unscheduled stops.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Atlantic Friend
Jolly decent of them,
Nothing hones the senses like real live targets!
20 posted on 02/11/2004 10:25:31 AM PST by GrandEagle
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: hchutch
Yep - the NPA may be in trouble. Dunno if the other major tangos in the Phillipines (Abu Sayyaf, IIRC) are in the area, but this exercise could be a chance to get the troops in position to make those terrorists good terrorists.

If you announce to the tiger that you're going to kick him in the a$$, you may be dealing with the teeth sooner than you planned.

21 posted on 02/11/2004 10:28:57 AM PST by Poohbah ("Would you mind not shooting at the thermonuclear weapons?" -- Maj. Vic Deakins, USAF)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: GrandEagle
It's a specific group of Filipinos saying this, not all. One of our biggest mistake was not putting Clark AFB back on their map... You kill an American, we bomb you until the mountains are nothings but grains of sand. When in doubt, call in the F-16's
22 posted on 02/11/2004 10:29:31 AM PST by Jammz ("The only thing needed for evil to prevail, is for good men to do nothing.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: GrandEagle
And to think your boys could have missed the opportunity ! Have you got any info about the US assets deployed during the exercise ?
23 posted on 02/11/2004 10:30:06 AM PST by Atlantic Friend (Cursum Perficio)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]

To: Rebelbase
The ChiComs set up shop in the Spratley's a few years ago. They wanted people to believe the "fishing village" story but they were moving in other things. The Philippines ought to worry. Remember, there is no such thing as the Domino Theory.
24 posted on 02/11/2004 10:31:33 AM PST by oldironsides
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 19 | View Replies]

To: Rebelbase
Tension might arise should the neighboring states of China, Brunei, Malaysia, Taiwan and Vietnam, which all claim Spratlys to be part of their territories, raise an issue over the conduct of military training exercises on the chain of islands in the South China Sea, which are believed to sit on vast mineral resources.

In November 2003, the Philippine government posed to raise a diplomatic protest with China over the sighting of their research vessels and warships in the area. It was, however, not pursued after a negotiation with the Chinese officials.

The “Spratlys issue” is considered a potential flashpoint in the region. Vietnam and China have clashed twice over the Spratlys, in 1988 and 1992, and since the 1990s, the Philippines has been concerned over a Chinese installation on the Spratlys atoll of Mischief Reef.

The Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN), which includes Brunei, Malaysia, the Philippines and Vietnam, signed an accord with China last year calling on all the claimants to the Spratlys to avoid actions which may heighten tensions there.

The Spratlys consist of several hundred islands, reefs and sea mountains, with a total land area of less than five square kilometers and scattered across approximately 800,000 square kilometers of the South China Sea.

China and Taiwan claim the entire chain. China occupies or has placed markers on seven to 10 reefs in the Spratlys, while Taiwan occupies one of the largest islands, known as Taipung or "Itu Abu".

Vietnam, Brunei, Malaysia and the Philippines claim only some parts, based on proximity to their shores. All the claimants, except Brunei, have stationed troops in the area. Japan, which controlled the islands for most of the first half of the century, formally renounced sovereignty claims in 1951. - SOURCE


25 posted on 02/11/2004 10:33:28 AM PST by Tailgunner Joe
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 19 | View Replies]

To: Poohbah
Yep.

There may be a bunch of good terrorists when this exercise is done.
26 posted on 02/11/2004 10:35:19 AM PST by hchutch ("I never get involved with my own life. It's too much trouble." - Michael Garibaldi)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 21 | View Replies]

To: Jammz
It's a specific group of Filipinos saying this, not all.
I understand. But, as you pointed out, the vast majority wanted Clark to go.
I suppose it could be true that just because you don't want our military presence in your country, you could still want friendly relations.
It just bothered me a great deal that after so many American's lost their lives to preserve the Philippines, they would throw us out of such a strategic place.
I thought the line about them "being ready" was humorous!
Seems like that's what the Talaban thought too!
27 posted on 02/11/2004 10:36:42 AM PST by GrandEagle
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 22 | View Replies]

To: oldironsides
"The ChiComs set up shop in the Spratley's a few years ago. They wanted people to believe the "fishing village" story "

Thanks, that cleared the cobwebs. I now recall that happening.
28 posted on 02/11/2004 10:37:44 AM PST by Rebelbase (The Gravy Train makes unscheduled stops.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 24 | View Replies]

To: Atlantic Friend
U.S. Assets..
No, no idea. I'm pretty sure that they can take care of themselves though.
29 posted on 02/11/2004 10:38:31 AM PST by GrandEagle
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 23 | View Replies]

To: GrandEagle
Oh, most certainly. I was trying to assess if these rebels were jolly brave, totally crazy, or jolly downright suicidal. If they only have fought Filipino soldiers until now, the change of tempo will be a sharp shock to them !
30 posted on 02/11/2004 10:42:27 AM PST by Atlantic Friend (Cursum Perficio)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 29 | View Replies]

To: Tailgunner Joe
One day China will declare the South China Sea as their own personal lake and the fight will be on.
31 posted on 02/11/2004 10:43:17 AM PST by cynicom
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Atlantic Friend
a sharp shock to them !
LOL!
Much like the feeling a bug gets just before it hits the windshield!
32 posted on 02/11/2004 10:49:23 AM PST by GrandEagle
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 30 | View Replies]

To: Semper Paratus
"The war game may be planned to go real"

Think this through a bit. This is an annual exercise, not something new and unexpected. The mutual threat to the US and the Philippines is not the communists, it is the muslims.

This is an election year, why would Bush do anything to instigate another conflict given the heat he's taking on Iraq? A military adventure in the Philippines would guarantee a dem in the WH come January.

If this were to go as you seem to hope it will where will the multiple Army divisions needed to fight in the Philippines come from? Which of the three MEFS gets pulled from current duties? Which carrier groups get pulled off station in support?

This is nothing more than the US maintaining a visible commitment to the region and some cage shaking by the commies.

33 posted on 02/11/2004 11:05:10 AM PST by wtc911 (Who are you gonna believe, me or your own eyes?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: cynicom
Try the entire Pacific Ocean.
34 posted on 02/11/2004 11:23:52 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 31 | View Replies]

To: GrandEagle
Not quite all, I'm half filipino but 110% American. I'm also ADAF. There are many filipinos who want clark back.
35 posted on 02/11/2004 12:13:09 PM PST by Jammz ("The only thing needed for evil to prevail, is for good men to do nothing.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 27 | View Replies]

To: Eric in the Ozarks
First things first. In all warfare, there is a need to protect your rear. China wants to anchor its rear from Taiwan south to the Philippines,Indonesia, Malyasia and thence northward, their lake.
36 posted on 02/11/2004 12:22:58 PM PST by cynicom
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 34 | View Replies]

To: GrandEagle
They're commies, so of course they're perfectly willing to be the doormat of, say, China, NKorea, or Cuba.
37 posted on 02/11/2004 12:53:51 PM PST by Citizen of the Savage Nation
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: Semper Paratus
U.S. Commander: 'Ok, now where are you going to be, so we can stay away from there?'
Islamofascist commander: 'Well, we'll be here, here, and here'.
U.S. Commander: 'Ok fine' (into headset): 'warning red, weapons free on here here, and here'
(sounds of explosions)
fade to black for those bastards
38 posted on 02/11/2004 1:47:55 PM PST by notdownwidems (Shellback, pollywogs! 1980)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Jammz
And there are many Thais who want not only the bases back in Esarn, but, perhaps, also some "deterent forces" to counter the Yunnan, ChiCOM nukes - said forces to be placed up somewhere near Chiang Mai!
39 posted on 02/11/2004 6:18:54 PM PST by GOP_1900AD (Un-PC even to "Conservatives!" - Right makes right)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 35 | View Replies]

To: GrandEagle
Yes, there are a few "splat" and "ouch" coming their way. Since these are Muslim rebels, I guess that'll be the most moving spiritual experience of what's left of their lives.
40 posted on 02/12/2004 2:56:17 AM PST by Atlantic Friend (Cursum Perficio)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 32 | View Replies]

To: GrandEagle
Much like the French, the Filipino's seem to have short memories!
Not most of them. Most of the Filipino's I've met have a great love for the U.S, in fact, many would like to join our country as the 51'st state. It's the rabble rousers in the colleges and the leftest instructors that are causing many of the problems.
Jack
41 posted on 02/15/2004 10:03:55 AM PST by btcusn
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: btcusn
Not most of them.
You are probably correct. I was guilty of a very "over generalization" of the Filipino people. As I stated in a previous post, I was quite annoyed when they asked us to leave and close down Clark AFB.
It is quite possable that their government's actions is as represenative of the people's feelings as ours is.
I stand corrected.
42 posted on 02/15/2004 7:06:08 PM PST by GrandEagle
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 41 | View Replies]

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson