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SB1160
California Senate ^ | 2-2-04 | Gil Cedillo

Posted on 02/11/2004 1:21:49 PM PST by TatooChick

BILL NUMBER: SB 1160 INTRODUCED BILL TEXT

INTRODUCED BY Senator Cedillo

FEBRUARY 2, 2004

An act relating to drivers, and declaring the urgency thereof, to take effect immediately.

LEGISLATIVE COUNSEL'S DIGEST

SB 1160, as introduced, Cedillo. Highways: drivers. Existing law makes it unlawful for a person to drive a motor vehicle upon a highway unless that person holds a valid driver's license issued under the Vehicle Code, and provides proof of financial responsibility. This bill would express the intent of the Legislature to enact appropriate legislation that improves the safety of all California residents while operating motor vehicles upon our highways by ensuring that all drivers of motor vehicles are properly licensed, tested, and maintain proof of financial responsibility. The bill would declare that it takes effect immediately as an urgency statute. Vote: 2/3. Appropriation: no. Fiscal committee: no. State-mandated local program: no.

THE PEOPLE OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA DO ENACT AS FOLLOWS:

SECTION 1. It is the intent of the Legislature to enact appropriate legislation that improves the safety of all California residents while operating motor vehicles on our highways by ensuring that all drivers of motor vehicles are properly licensed, tested, and maintain proof of financial responsibility. SEC. 2. This act is an urgency statute necessary for the immediate preservation of the public peace, health, or safety within the meaning of Article IV of the Constitution and shall go into immediate effect. The facts constituting the necessity are: In order to reduce the number of unlicensed drivers on our highways, who account for 20 percent of all accidents and, thereby, compromise public safety, it is necessary that this act take effect immediately.


TOPICS: Announcements; Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: california; cedillo; driverslisences; illegalailens; immigration; sb1160; sb60
It's Baaaaaaack.

Here is the initial text for SB1160, the new attempt to get drivers licenses for illegal aliens.

Enough is Enough!!!!

1 posted on 02/11/2004 1:21:49 PM PST by TatooChick
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To: TatooChick

2 posted on 02/11/2004 1:28:25 PM PST by martin_fierro (Shhh. Navel contemplation in progress)
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To: TatooChick
OMG!! They introduced it as an emergency bill, meaning that it goes into effect as soon as it's signed! However, I don't believe they'll get the 2/3rds vote to have it pass as an emergency bill. If any Republican legislators support this, they'll be unemployed after November 2.

If it passes as an emergency bill, the damage will have been done before a Referendum can be placed on the ballot to repeal the bill - there is no way to retreive the millions of DL's that will have been issued by that time.

If it doesn't pass as an emergency bill - Cedillo will re-introduce it as a "regular" bill, which means it can't go into effect until 1 January 2005. We'll have the referendum qualified by then - and the law will be held up until after the next election where this Referndum will appear.
3 posted on 02/11/2004 1:31:35 PM PST by So Cal Rocket
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To: TatooChick

Licenses for illegals is a great idea!

Listen to me again

All illegals should be encouraged to get their licenses!

And don't you dare argue with me, because, you see, I have a plan.

It's quite simple.

And quite elegant.

Simply herd them into the busses behind the building when they show up to get their licenses, and they could be in Tijuana by the next morning (nightfall for San Diego and L.A.). Have the INS greet them at home if the busses get full.

Same for college attendance.

4 posted on 02/11/2004 1:32:40 PM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: All
HEAD'S UP!

Howard Kaloogian is organizing a rally on Saturday, February 21st at the CRP convention to OPPOSE this bill and any efforts to give drivers licenses to illegal aliens.

More information later today!

5 posted on 02/11/2004 1:33:08 PM PST by Impeach98
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To: So Cal Rocket; Sabertooth; kellynla
"OMG!! They introduced it as an emergency bill, meaning that it goes into effect as soon as it's signed! However, I don't believe they'll get the 2/3rds vote to have it pass as an emergency bill. If any Republican legislators support this, they'll be unemployed after November 2."

Hey Sabertooth and kellynla, does RINOld need a 2/3rds majority to have the bill take effect immediately?
6 posted on 02/11/2004 1:36:27 PM PST by Pubbie (I hate both the NeoConservatives and the PaleoConservatives - What does that make me?)
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To: TatooChick
Existing law makes it unlawful for a person to drive a motor vehicle upon a highway unless that person holds a valid driver's license issued under the Vehicle Code, and provides proof of financial responsibility.

This bill would express the intent of the Legislature to enact appropriate legislation that improves the safety of all California residents while operating motor vehicles upon our highways by ensuring that all drivers of motor vehicles are properly licensed, tested, and maintain proof of financial responsibility.

What?? Since when does anyone have to be financially responsible to drive?

7 posted on 02/11/2004 1:38:04 PM PST by Lizavetta (Savage is right - extreme liberalism is a mental disorder.)
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To: goldstategop
*Ping*!

They are introducing the bill as an emergency bill so that the law takes effect immediately.
8 posted on 02/11/2004 1:41:22 PM PST by Pubbie (I hate both the NeoConservatives and the PaleoConservatives - What does that make me?)
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To: Lizavetta
...maintain proof of financial responsibility.

What?? Since when does anyone have to be financially responsible to drive?

"Proof of financial responsibility" = liability insurance meeting the minimum coverage required by state law.

9 posted on 02/11/2004 1:48:56 PM PST by VRWCmember (Dick Gephardt is a <a href="http://www.michaelmoore.com" target="_blank">miserable failure </a>)
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To: martin_fierro
Ping SV list please
10 posted on 02/11/2004 1:52:11 PM PST by null and void
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To: So Cal Rocket
How many GOP defectors will the Rats need to pass this as an emergency bill?
11 posted on 02/11/2004 1:53:06 PM PST by Pubbie (I hate both the NeoConservatives and the PaleoConservatives - What does that make me?)
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To: Pubbie
Assembly: 80 Seats: 48 Dems, 32 Republicans - 2/3 = 54

Senate: 40 Seats: 25 Dems, 15 Republicans - 2/3 = 27

Therefore, they need 2 Republicans in the Senate and 6 Republicans in the Assembly to vote YES, for it to pass as an emergency bill.
12 posted on 02/11/2004 2:01:58 PM PST by So Cal Rocket
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To: So Cal Rocket
Do you think the GOP will be able to hold the fort and prevent the 2/3rds majority?
13 posted on 02/11/2004 2:05:32 PM PST by Pubbie (I hate both the NeoConservatives and the PaleoConservatives - What does that make me?)
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To: Pubbie
Only if there is a conservative uprising against it!
14 posted on 02/11/2004 2:10:04 PM PST by Impeach98
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To: Pubbie
Maybe. I just e-mailed the following:

Yes on SB 1160 = No on your re-election
15 posted on 02/11/2004 2:10:18 PM PST by null and void (Yes on SB 1160 = No on your re-election)
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To: Pubbie
The Republicans held the line last year when it came to voting against any tax increases, and all the Republicans voted NO on SB60 - last year's version of the Driver's Licenses for Illegals law.

However, that was with a Democrat in the Governor's Office. Now that Arnold is in there, I'm sure there will be some arm-twisting on some Republicans to get this passed.

16 posted on 02/11/2004 2:11:59 PM PST by So Cal Rocket
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To: antiRepublicrat
I like that Idea, heck let's offer "Free Legal Citizenship" and put them all in that same bus. They get their free legal citizenship in the country of orgin.
17 posted on 02/11/2004 2:13:37 PM PST by CJ Wolf (or something like that.)
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To: VRWCmember; Lizavetta
I think what Lizavetta was getting at is that here in California proof of insurance is only required when you register a car. It's not needed just to get a license. (Is that what you meant, Liz?)
18 posted on 02/11/2004 2:13:38 PM PST by DumpsterDiver
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To: So Cal Rocket
It is so scary!

Apparently there is going to be a HUGE rally in Burlingame (outside SF) at the Hyatt, at 11:00am February 21st.

If you know anyone in the area, tell them to go!
19 posted on 02/11/2004 2:26:05 PM PST by TatooChick (Praise the Lord...and pass the ammunition)
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To: Lizavetta
Clever girl!
20 posted on 02/11/2004 2:26:59 PM PST by TatooChick (Praise the Lord...and pass the ammunition)
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To: DumpsterDiver
I think she was making reference to the fact that plenty of "financiailly irresponsible" people have drivers licenses.

Heck, some financially irresponsible people not only drive cars...but the SENATE!

21 posted on 02/11/2004 2:35:43 PM PST by TatooChick (Praise the Lord...and pass the ammunition)
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To: Lizavetta
What?? Since when does anyone have to be financially responsible to drive?

I Wish Someone had convinced the dirver and passenger who drove across my yard, thru my fence and parked in my horse pasture of that fact. They also left the scene. Then the insurance company keeps asking me why I don't have the driver's Driver's license info and her phone number.....
22 posted on 02/11/2004 2:37:20 PM PST by ridesthemiles (ridesthemiles)
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To: TatooChick
Interested to see what our buddy does when this lands on his desk.
23 posted on 02/11/2004 3:41:06 PM PST by Amerigomag
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To: Amerigomag
He has stated publicly that he approves it.

"It's one of those things that we'll all have to get together and see that this is a good idea and this is the way we move forward," Schwarzenegger said at a Sacramento Press Club lunch. "I'm talking with my Republican friends all the time about it and also with my Democratic friends. We will do it." Press Enterprise, January 29,2004

24 posted on 02/11/2004 4:03:50 PM PST by TatooChick (Praise the Lord...and pass the ammunition)
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To: TatooChick
He has stated publicly that he approves it.

I'm getting a very bad, bad feeling about this good old boy from Hollywood.

I am mindful that another Hollywood Republican dabbled in this arena upon the advice of the "country club moderates" and later admitted that it was the one regret of his otherwise successful presidency.

25 posted on 02/11/2004 4:28:25 PM PST by Amerigomag
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To: Pubbie
If the law passes and RINOld signs it there will be a referendum against it on the ballot for November 2, 2004. If a law is passed allowing illegal aliens to acquire CA driver's licenses other states may not recognize CA licenses which means any person pulled over for a moving violation in an other state could be incarcerated. Plus CA could lose any funding for highways and bridges from the Federal government. For RINOld's sake, if he signs this bill, I wouldn't get to comfy in Sacramento because at the rate he is going he won't be there in 2007.
26 posted on 02/11/2004 4:30:51 PM PST by kellynla ("C" 1/5 1st Mar. Div. U.S.M.C. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi!)
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To: kellynla
Check out post #3.

It looks like RINOnegger and the MecHA people are going to try and pass it as an emergency bill ie the law takes effect immediately and there is no time for a Referendum to cancel it.

But SchwarzenKennedy needs a 2/3rds majority in the state legislature for it to take effect immediately.

Do you think he can get the 2/3rds majority?
27 posted on 02/11/2004 4:40:31 PM PST by Pubbie (I hate both the NeoConservatives and the PaleoConservatives - What does that make me?)
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To: Pubbie; Ernest_at_the_Beach; NormsRevenge
Oh we can still offer a referendum which would outlaw driver's licenses to illegals even after it is passed into law by the morons in Sacramento. Any law can be reversed. It's done every day. Speed limits, drinking ages, etc, etc, etc. Ala prohibition. I doubt they can get a 2/3's majority. If anyone has the names, emails & telephone numbers for the assembly members and legislators it would be an excellent idea to post them so we can FReep them! Semper Fi, Kelly
28 posted on 02/11/2004 5:10:23 PM PST by kellynla ("C" 1/5 1st Mar. Div. U.S.M.C. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi!)
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To: Pubbie; So Cal Rocket
And trust me this bill will not see the light of day. The day RINOld signs this bill into law there would be a lawsuit filed in Sacramento putting a stay on it.
29 posted on 02/11/2004 5:13:28 PM PST by kellynla ("C" 1/5 1st Mar. Div. U.S.M.C. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi!)
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To: kellynla
This is going to be fun...
30 posted on 02/11/2004 5:16:15 PM PST by Pubbie (I hate both the NeoConservatives and the PaleoConservatives - What does that make me?)
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To: Amerigomag
I have said it before, I will say it again, we need some REAL conservatives in office.

Guys like Howard Kaloogian!

31 posted on 02/11/2004 5:21:54 PM PST by TatooChick (Praise the Lord...and pass the ammunition)
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To: Pubbie
Do you think he can get the 2/3rds majority?

Easy. All he needs are 2 Senate and 6 Assembly GOP squishes.

If they think this will buy them political favors with RINOld, they will buckle.

Look at the bond issues. The Reep's all made a big production of voting no on the floor, and then turned around and signed a pledge to support them.

It is a matter of money. They are chasing the blessing of the Republican Establishment, ignoring the simple fact that a lot of Conservatives held their nose and voted for Arnold in the special election. Those same voters are watching this guy REALLY close, and are not going to fall in line with every choice he makes.

It is sad, in an effort to chase campaign dollars, a lot of these guys are willing to stomp all over the same people they were elected to serve.

32 posted on 02/11/2004 5:31:28 PM PST by TatooChick (Praise the Lord...and pass the ammunition)
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To: kellynla
If anyone has the names, emails & telephone numbers for the assembly members and legislators it would be an excellent idea to post them so we can FReep them! Go to http://www.sen.ca.gov and you can access all of the legislators in both the Assembly and Senate.
33 posted on 02/11/2004 5:33:44 PM PST by TatooChick (Praise the Lord...and pass the ammunition)
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To: TatooChick
Thank you. :-) ITS FREEP TIME!
34 posted on 02/11/2004 5:36:42 PM PST by kellynla ("C" 1/5 1st Mar. Div. U.S.M.C. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi!)
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To: TatooChick
Enough of this. Download a petition and collect signatures for the Save Our State Initiative.

It will deny public benefits to any applicants who aren't in the United States legally, requiring public employees who distribute those benefits to verify the immigration status of everyone, regardless of race or national origin, before benefits can be given. It will also prevent illegal aliens from getting driver's licenses that could otherwise indicate legal residency and qualify them for public benefits. And finally, it will prevent public agencies from using unverified foreign ID cards (such as the Matricular Consular) for identity purposes in California.

598,000 signatures are needed. The deadline for turning in petitions is April 15, 2004 to put the initiative on the November ballot.

Additional contact info:

SAVE OUR STATE
P.O. Box 5250
Buena Park, CA 90622-5250
Tel: 714-899-9631 Fax: 714-899-3661

35 posted on 02/11/2004 6:32:13 PM PST by concentric circles
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To: concentric circles
How many signatures do they have so far?
36 posted on 02/11/2004 6:57:43 PM PST by Pubbie (I hate both the NeoConservatives and the PaleoConservatives - What does that make me?)
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To: TatooChick
Look at the bond issues. The Reep's all made a big production of voting no on the floor, and then turned around and signed a pledge to support them.

Lots of GOP Assemblymen voted for placing the bond on the the ballot.

37 posted on 02/11/2004 8:55:48 PM PST by heleny (No on propositions 55, 56, 57, 58)
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To: Pubbie
How many?

Don't know. I made an email inquiry which went unanswered. Ron Prince, the driving force behind the initiative, has been making media appearances. Maybe he'll say something about that.

38 posted on 02/11/2004 9:56:25 PM PST by concentric circles
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To: null and void
Yes on SB 1160 = No on your re-election

I like it!

The only problem is that your local representatives probably know that your alternatives may be even worse. (unless your current reps are Democrats)

39 posted on 02/12/2004 12:01:25 AM PST by heleny (No on propositions 55, 56, 57, 58)
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To: heleny
The only problem is that your local representatives probably know that your alternatives may be even worse. (unless your current reps are Democrats)

They are Spanish surnamed dems...

40 posted on 02/12/2004 7:41:10 AM PST by null and void (Yes on SB 1160 = No on your re-election)
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To: null and void
In that case, I hope they get the message from many of their constituents! (and I hope they care/notice)
41 posted on 02/12/2004 7:46:28 AM PST by heleny (No on propositions 55, 56, 57, 58)
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To: concentric circles
Already have.

God Bless Ron Prince!

42 posted on 02/12/2004 9:24:05 AM PST by TatooChick (Praise the Lord...and pass the ammunition)
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To: TatooChick
HEADS UP! RALLY TO OPPOSE DRIVERS’ LICENSES FOR ILLEGAL ALIENS

Saturday, February 21st – 10:30 AM At the Hyatt Burlingame Hotel 1333 Bayshore Highway – Burlingame, CA (Near San Francisco Airport)

Outside the California Republican Party Convention

The Rally is Being Organized by Howard Kaloogian Kaloogian was Chairman of the Recall Gray Davis Committee and is a candidate for U.S. Senate

Enough is Enough!

Rewarding Illegal Aliens is NOT the solution to our Illegal Immigration problem. Our political leaders are FAILING us and abandoning the vast majority of Californians who oppose giving drivers’ licenses to illegal aliens.

SPREAD THE WORD… Help us build a giant crowd by Helping us to publicize this event.

email questions or RSVP to: Rally@HowardForSenate.com

43 posted on 02/12/2004 9:29:28 AM PST by TatooChick (Praise the Lord...and pass the ammunition)
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To: Lizavetta
It's called automobile insurance.
44 posted on 02/13/2004 7:49:35 AM PST by GigaDittos (Bumper sticker: "Vote Democrat, it's easier than getting a job.")
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To: All

    Ha Ha I told you so !!

45 posted on 02/13/2004 1:07:04 PM PST by VU4G10 (Have You Forgotten?)
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To: TatooChick
The one point nobody ever seems to make in this argument is that it's perfectly legal for anyone to drive in this country on a Mexican drivers license.

If you fly into SFO or LAX from Mexico and go through Customs and Immigration, you can go to any rental car counter at the airport, show them your major credit card and a valid drivers license from any state in Mexico and they will gladly rent you a car, which you can legally drive on any public road in the United States.

Anyone who comes here ILLEGALLY, who has a valid Mexican drivers license can LEGALLY purchase insurance and drive a car here.

This isn't about highway safety and it isn't about insurance. It's about providing cover for people who break our laws. Any politician who votes for SB1160 should be jailed as an accessory to immigration fraud.
46 posted on 02/15/2004 3:29:57 AM PST by InABunkerUnderSF (There are no jobs Americans won't take. There are some wages Americans can't live on.)
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To: InABunkerUnderSF
Any politician who votes for SB1160 should be jailed as an accessory to immigration fraud.

Leaving SB1160 aside for the moment, most of the politicians in this country should be jailed for aiding (and encouraging) illegal aliens.

47 posted on 02/15/2004 8:18:32 AM PST by DumpsterDiver
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