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What We Can Do To Help Defeat the "Gay" Agenda
self | February 11, 2004 | little jeremiah

Posted on 02/11/2004 9:00:13 PM PST by little jeremiah

What We Can Do To Defeat The "Gay" Agenda

Dear Fellow Freepers,

The following informal essay has two parts, the first consisting of ideas of what individuals or small groups can do to help thwart, roll back, defeat and otherwise throw a monkey wrench into the onslaught of the "gay" agenda and their stated goal to destroy the moral fabric of society. I am hoping that discussion will ensue, with theoretical ideas as well as accomplished plans. Information and knowledge are the key. Since most people just watch TV and read the establishment media, which are lapdogs of the "gay" elite, they just do not know the truth about homosexuality.

The second part is my analysis of the root cause of the homosexual movement, going a bit deeper than environment and molestation. It is "religious" or "spiritual" in aspect, so anyone who wishes to avoid that type of discussion can avoid it! This analysis is germane to the cure, not only of the homosexual agenda, but the untrammeled hedonism and libertinism of which homosexuality is the poster child.

[Note: I am not attempting to recap the immediate causes of homosexuality, or prove that it is not inborn, or give evidence as to why same sex acts are abnormal, unhealthy, or immoral, or to prove that homosexuals can change. FR already has hundreds of archived articles of this nature.]

Part One: Ideas on Promoting the Truth about Homosexuality

A friend of ours homeschools her children, so as to protect them from the horrible influence of public schools, instill her personal moral values, and give them the best education possible. She knew that homosexuality was unhealthy, immoral, and unnatural, but until I gave her books and booklets I purchased from Scott Lively's website (www.abidingtruth.com) she was not able to articulate her viewpoint. After studying the materials I provided, she became a one-woman task force, gave her elderly father books to read, and shared the books with the charter/homeschool teacher. The teacher, who also had not been very well-informed, had her mind blown (so to speak) and ordered more materials for herself, and placed a link to Lively's website on her personal website. Lively has a number of very informative booklets that can be purchased in bulk cheap, and they are great for distributing. So because I informed one friend, many others have been informed. This particular charter school is all for homeschooled children, and there are about 500 families involved.

By purchasing Lively's materials (or reprints from other groups such as NAARTH and the Family Research Council) and making them available at your church, synagogue or other house of worship, many people can become informed. Materials can be purchased and mailed or given to pastors at other churches, or any organization or club that you belong to.

I have found that if I talk to people in the line at the grocery store, or the cashier, often people are happy to find that others have the same viewpoint, but they are afraid to admit that they think same sex acts to be unhealthy or wrong. Just by speaking up in public, we can encourage others to think for themselves, and not be intimidated by social pressure.

Of course, letters can be written to newspapers (they've never printed one of mine!), legislators, and media people. We could try calling up local talk radio shows to tell the truth or attend school board meetings to protest the homosexual infiltration of the schools. Of course, by doing any of these things we will be "outing" ourselves as homophobes ;-) but that's the risk one takes by speaking the truth.

And then there are guerilla tactics: print up some fact sheets about the nature of and diseases spread by homosexual acts, statistics about molestation rates, etc - make them colorful and readable, and broadcast them about town. Laudromats, bulletin boards in stores, public facilities, rest stops, community college or other educational institutions, any place you can find. Good places would be where there is a lot of foot traffic, especially where high school kids can see them. High schools kids are really being targeted by homosexual activists, so the more they can see the truth, the better.

Another post-it tactic: make or obtain stickers with the names and phone numbers of organizations that help people overcome homosexuality, and stick them near high schools, colleges, downtowns, and so on. You never know whose life might change because of one phone call. Or, place ads in the classified ads section of local newspapers or weekly magazines with the same information.

Other promotional ideas are bumper stickers (make you own, or maybe someone knows where to order pro-family stickers). Ideas for slogans: Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve; Marriage=One Man+One Woman; Children Need a Mother and Father, Not Two of a Kind; Same Sex Acts Are Not Healthy For Living Things; Want to get AIDS? Be Gay!; Don't confuse "Exit" with "Entry"; Don't Mess With Marriage; "Gay" Sex Isn't Gay…. These could also be signs in car windows, yard signs, signs held at rallies.

Protest at "Gay Pride" Parades. If protesting at such public events, wear protective clothing and go in groups, carry antiseptic handwipes and have a camera and maybe tape recorder. No telling what might ensue. Here's an idea that someone freepmailed to me, and it sounds good:

"I have an idea I'd like to pass your way. I suggest that we get permits to set up tables in front of (or near) our respective churches/synagogues along the local "Pride" parade routes this coming June, with literature about reparative therapy. Each table should also have someone there to document all the juvenile insults and threats thrown our way on a videocam, and send copies of the films to the local tv news to include as part of their coverage."

These are just a few ideas. Let's hear yours!

Part Two: The Root Cause of Homosexuality

Everyone needs happiness, love and pleasure. These needs stem directly from the soul, and get interpreted through the body - think of how many people eat because they are lonely, depressed, or in anxiety. A healthy balanced person will eat when hungry, and when in need of companionship will turn to a relative, friend, or even pet for company. The need for love is really paramount, a deeper need than the bodily requirements. What hurts more, a broken heart, or a hungry stomach? Our culture has denied the fact - basic to all religions (probably a few exceptions, but this is not the debate here) - that human beings even have souls, what to speak of the needs of the soul. In fact, the accepted "scientifically based" theory is that humans are just machines, made of chemicals, evolved by accident, and the "self" doesn’t even really exist. In an atmosphere of such impersonal nihilism, it is natural that many people will be easily convinced that real love, real happiness, real heart to heart connection, don't exist.

What can take its place? Instant pleasure. Shopping. Drug and alcohol abuse. Or, most seductive of all, orgasms. And since the sexual organs have no conscience, a wide variety of options is available to people who have been convinced that God doesn't exist, there are no rules - or higher purpose - to life, and instant gratification is the only yardstick to measure happiness with.

There are two kinds of happiness - the kind that comes from the outside - eating, sex, comforts, and the devices or arrangements that facilitate such, as well as more intangible pleasures such as accomplishments, goals achieved, music, arts, learning, and so on. The second kind of happiness comes only from within the heart, and this happiness is our relationship with God. Jesus said that the Kingdom of God is within us, and the same truth is stated in Hindu scriptures (the Vedas) as well. A surrendered soul can experience the loving embrace of God anywhere, any time - if he truly desires and strives for this loving relationship. The experience that God is my best friend, my only refuge, my source of happiness, and indeed, the very foundation for and purpose of my existence - is the only real meaning of religion. Currently, in many religions, the concept that God is a real Person is left out, glossed over, He is described as an amorphous mystery, or that "we are God", or that He is just energy or a force. But according to Jesus, the teachings in the Old Testament, and the teachings of the Vedas, re-establishing a loving relationship with the Supreme Person is the only thing that will fill the emptiness in our hearts. If this knowledge is denied, as in most of our culture, people will seek to fill this void by any means at hand. And if the moral absolutes that are part of God's instructions to humanity are tossed out, then anything goes. If sexual pleasure is the goal of life, and there are no eternal moral truths, then there is no reason to not accept same sex acts, or, for that matter, any kind of sexual activity.

Therefore, the real antidote to the "gay" agenda, as well as the breakdown of civilization it heralds, is the spiritual awakening of many individuals, and the understanding that such an awakening is not only important but essential.


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To: little jeremiah
Your points are not in opposition to the opposition to the normalization of homosexuality. Sexual libertinism is a continuum, with man+woman sex divorced from lifelong marriage, fidelity, and children as the norm. IOW, you seem to be saying the why worry about homosexual marriage when promiscuity and sexual libertinism among heterosexuals is so much more grievous?

Heres a retort:

Why worry about AIDS when more die from heart disease?


151 posted on 02/19/2004 6:16:47 PM PST by WOSG (Bush/Cheney 2004!!)
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To: little jeremiah
Those that got licenses in SFO should be arrested, the same way as if they bought a phoney drivers license. It is time to bring the hornets out of ther nest and confront them. Why isn't the terminator reacting.
152 posted on 02/19/2004 6:19:23 PM PST by wilmington2
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To: little jeremiah
I would say in the beginning not worry about which judges. State Reps are easier to influence with calls, letters, and faxes, but it needs to be done at all levels. It is an election year, politicians seem to listen a bit more when they are thinking about votes.

This is not something that will happen over night, it will have to be ongoing, many reps can not be influenced, some will come around with enough pressure, a few won't take much pressure.

153 posted on 02/19/2004 8:44:38 PM PST by c-b 1
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To: c-b 1; wilmington2
A good thing to remember is that the homosexual activists didn't get where they are overnight either. They had a plan, they committed time and money to their plan, they were goal oriented, and so on. Many have dedicated their lives to the goal of turning our country (and the world) into their homosexual bordello. And they've come a long way. Those of us who see this need to similarly dedicate ourselves.

Tomorrow I am going to type up a letter Scott Lively has sent out (he's one of the lawyers fighting the SF marriage thing). He's someone who has dedicated his life to this fight, and even those of us who can't do much can assist him and others.

I agree with the arrests. It's as though homosexuals are the first class citizens, the aristocrats who can flaunt the law with no repercussions, and we're the serfs, who must bow and scrape as their carriages rattle by.
154 posted on 02/19/2004 11:00:41 PM PST by little jeremiah (everyone is entitled to their opinion, but everyone isn't entitled to be right.)
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To: little jeremiah
Here's an idea:

Contact Al Rantel and see if he'll write a column for FreeRepublic. Maybe he has one online, but I haven't seen it. He is a homosexual man, a radio personality for KABC/LA, and was on O'Reilly the other night saying he spoke as an insider. He is against gay marriage because he said the homosexual lobby's primary interest is furthering the gay agenda. He thinks this will lead to the devaluation of marriage ala Denmark.

SO, I am basically suggesting someone else contact him? Not like I know his email.

155 posted on 02/20/2004 11:30:14 AM PST by tuesday afternoon
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To: Askel5
Actually, it was not "the heteros" as you claim, but the same folks who are pushing homosexual marriage today.

The LEFT.

They undermined our divorce laws.
They created social welfare that provides incentives to unwed mothers
They promote pornography
They promote adultery
They promote promiscuity
They promote homosexuality

Sure, some of them are heteros, but they are ALL liberals.
156 posted on 02/20/2004 12:08:48 PM PST by Paloma_55
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To: little jeremiah
Therefore, the real antidote to the "gay" agenda, as well as the breakdown of civilization it heralds, is the spiritual awakening of many individuals, and the understanding that such an awakening is not only important but essential.

Just felt like adding a little amen.

157 posted on 02/20/2004 12:47:12 PM PST by tuesday afternoon
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To: tuesday afternoon
That is a very good idea - I probably won't get to it, as I am overwhelmed lately. But I'll think about it. There are also articles by Tammy Bruce (I think that's her last name) - she is a lesbian, but disagrees with much of the "gay" agenda, and has spoken out very strongly against the indoctrination of kids.
158 posted on 02/20/2004 1:24:08 PM PST by little jeremiah (everyone is entitled to their opinion, but everyone isn't entitled to be right.)
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To: tuesday afternoon
I think that point cannot be emphasized too much.

And I mean in a non-sectarian way - since all religions condemn homosexuality, as well as promiscuity, and pre- or extra-marital sex.


I have to admit I'm not crazy about Islam at the moment, though...
159 posted on 02/20/2004 1:25:58 PM PST by little jeremiah (everyone is entitled to their opinion, but everyone isn't entitled to be right.)
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To: ETERNAL WARMING
I think a coordinated activism would help. If we're watching a show and it's pushing things we just don't want, take note of the sponsors and post them. Let's all write and politely tell them our concern and then boycott those who ignore us.

The problem is that even CONSERVATIVES will rarely participate in a serious boycott. Pick a major manufacturer of household goods, and see how many people right here, people who would no doubt agree on the moral issue in play here, will REALLY stop buying a certain brand of dishwashing detergent, or shampoo, or toothpaste, or soup.

I do agree wholeheartedly with you, and I will personally participate in an organized plan, but I just don't believe enough will do so to make a difference. I desperately want to be wrong, but the battle for the heart and soul of this country has been fought over the past several decades. Sadly, we lost. A country that will elect Bill Clinton twice is a country without a moral center.

MM

160 posted on 02/20/2004 1:33:45 PM PST by MississippiMan
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To: Paloma_55
=== The LEFT.


You prepared to do a poll on this forum as to who does and does not use birth control, who does and does not advocate artificial contraception, who has been divorced and who enjoys looking at pornography ... including Lesbian sex and who understands perfectly if our brave young men (if not women) of the military wish to "relieve stress" with hookers while stationed abroad?

If you wish, I can start pulling threads right now which evidence absolutely the fact that so-called "conservatives" share absolutely the sexual mores of the "left".

161 posted on 02/20/2004 3:29:04 PM PST by Askel5
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To: little jeremiah
I found the link to this over at jewishworldreview.com and thought it topical:

Our sages have compared the Children of Israel to a school of fish, whose healthy members naturally swim against the current. It is not that we search out a current to swim against; rather, the nature of the world is that it perpetually presents goals and ideals in conflict with the Torah. The deception of the masses is irrelevant in light of a clear truth. We must maintain the strength to swim against the current.

162 posted on 02/20/2004 5:50:19 PM PST by tuesday afternoon
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To: Askel5
"so called".

The left PROMOTES these things.

Sure, there are people who claim to be conservatives that fall into bad behaviors, but as a group, they don't promote it.

You seem to have no ability to recognize something this obvious... it almost appears intentional.
163 posted on 02/20/2004 7:27:37 PM PST by Paloma_55
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To: tuesday afternoon
Very interesting observation. Jesus said much the same thing several times, I can remember where he said something about he didn't come to bring family peace, but to divide father from son and mother from daughter (I'm sure it's a little different, my memory is not great.)

Also, the Vedas say the same message (hmmm, funny how all the scriptures of the world have so much in common...?) In fact, the Bhagavad Gita has a verse which says that what is night for the introspective sage is daytime for materialist people, and what is night for the ordinary man is day for those who seek the truth. It is stated many times that to serve or seek for God means going against the current of most of the world.

Sometimes "go with the flow" is a bad idea - especially upstream from Niagra Falls.

(I think I can hear the roar in the distance....)
164 posted on 02/20/2004 10:14:53 PM PST by little jeremiah (everyone is entitled to their opinion, but everyone isn't entitled to be right.)
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To: little jeremiah; tuesday afternoon

There are also articles by Tammy Bruce (I think that's her last name) - she is a lesbian, but disagrees with much of the "gay" agenda, and has spoken out very strongly against the indoctrination of kids.


SUNDAY Q & A: A lesbian takes on the 'thought police'

Tammy Bruce: Protect New York's Children from the Gay Elite

Tammy Bruce: No Sympathy for the Devil

165 posted on 02/22/2004 10:14:29 AM PST by EdReform (Support Free Republic - All donations are greatly appreciated. Thank you for your support!)
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To: MississippiMan
For once, we have a truely moral man in the White House. It's a pity that there are those on this forum that want to defeat him
166 posted on 02/22/2004 10:29:14 AM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP (Careful! Your TAGS are the mirror of your SOUL!)
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To: little jeremiah
Question:"What We Can Do To Help Defeat the "Gay" Agenda"

Response: Well it is obvious that discussion, debate, expressing different points of view ain't stopping it. Further, I have my doubts about diversity, A Big Tent and Room at the Table being able to stop it. Hmmm! Maybe the usual political methods are broken and cannot be fixed?

167 posted on 02/22/2004 10:36:00 AM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS (Further, the statement assumed)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP
For once, we have a truely moral man in the White House. It's a pity that there are those on this forum that want to defeat him

I do believe Bush is a moral man. I also think he's the best option on the table and I'll be voting for him. We have gone since 9/11 without another terrorist hit on us, something I wouldn't have predicted, and I'll give him credit for that. But the fact is that the man has all but abandoned those who elected him, through liberal spending policies, and inaction--some would say sheer indifference--on issues that are core to social conservatism.

Do you think the country is better off or worse off than four years ago? I think we're WAY worse off in everything other than military readiness. Judicial activism is at an all time high. The radical gay agenda is running roughshod over the culture. Huge deficits are back. He pushes spending programs that are indistinguishable from something Ted Kennedy pushes. All this opposition to Bush from within the conservative ranks didn't happen in a vacuum. It didn't just appear in the air like magic. No, Bush brought his political woes on himself.

MM

168 posted on 02/22/2004 10:42:45 AM PST by MississippiMan
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To: EdReform
From Tammy Bruce: Protect New York's Children from the Gay Elite

I cannot even begin to express my rage at a radical gay fringe and leftists who now are openly and willingly sacrificing children in a vain and self-obsessed drive to quench their own appetites for the young. That’s all this amounts to—adults indulging themselves, and others made too mute by political correctness to step up and say "No."

That's an incredible statement! I'm amazed she wasn't tarred and feathered for it.

We’ll throw that kid on the garbage heap so gay malignant narcissists can feel more “normal” by making kids be just like them. While the gay establishment refuses to address the impact our histories have on our sexual identity, I refuse to let that cowardice take children as its next victims.

I take it she believes childhood sexual molestation is the primary cause of homosexuality?

169 posted on 02/22/2004 11:50:25 AM PST by tuesday afternoon
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP
Bookmarking
170 posted on 02/22/2004 6:45:00 PM PST by TruthNtegrity (I refuse to call candidates for President "Democratic" as they are NOT. Socialists, actually.))
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To: tuesday afternoon
I take it she believes childhood sexual molestation is the primary cause of homosexuality?....I sure do, it's what happened to my niece after having a gay babysitter which no one knew about!!!!!! I shutter to think what that child went thru.
171 posted on 02/22/2004 6:49:18 PM PST by GrandMoM (Get the most out of every day. Do your part, but do not try to do GOD"S part!!!)
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To: proudpatriot2112
proudpatriot2112 aka MuslimHater, tahiya911atyahoodotcom, doctorekhs, uownz, ConcernedConservativeLady, protectus111, protectus1111, hoowahh1, et al, nuked.

172 posted on 02/23/2004 11:39:00 AM PST by Jim Robinson (I don't belong to no organized political party. I'm a Republycan.)
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To: Jim Robinson
Thank you, sir. Scripter had doubts about his/her/its veracity.
173 posted on 02/23/2004 12:49:10 PM PST by little jeremiah (everyone is entitled to their opinion, but everyone isn't entitled to be right.)
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To: little jeremiah
Here's an excellent interview with lots of good information:

Concerned Women for America - Radio: Sandy Rios and Tammy Bruce

She’s a former leader within the National Organization for Women. She’s a lesbian and she is pro-choice. But she also believes there is a right and wrong. Sounds intriguing? Tune in for our discussion with Tammy Bruce in this edition of Concerned Women Today...

Click here to listen

174 posted on 02/24/2004 9:47:56 AM PST by EdReform (Support Free Republic - All donations are greatly appreciated. Thank you for your support!)
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To: Askel5
Does anyone here know how many homosexuals are writers and producers in Hollywood and the New York media? I know about the producer of Sex and the City, Jason Michael Patrick, but I don't know how many others of the writers of that series are gay. I heard that at least half of them were. I believe Sex and the City should receive the Devil's Prize for promoting irresponsible sex throughout America, and creating an image of America for the rest of the world that is decadent and totally materialistic.

This is one of the other purposes of homosexual activists -- to promote heterosexual irresponsibility in order to "desensitize" people to the sex act.

It seems clear that the women on Sex and the City, especially the one named Samantha, were really just the alter-egoes of the homosexual writers who would like nothing more than to hump and jump on every good looking male that comes along. And to do so with verve and the applause of the entire country! Wow, what a rush for a homosexual activist that would be. But they had to dress up their alter-egoes in beautiful women's bodies in order to pass it off to the country.

The more they can desensitize Americans, especially American women, to the spiritual significance of sexual intercourse, the better for the homosexual agenda. That's one reason so many movies are so offensive to me.

Anybody seen the "American Pie" movies? That is another example of the promotion of trash-sex, aimed directly at teenagers. Of course, they are all "R" rated but their target audience is definitely between 14 and 18.

Perhaps someone could offer more names of writers/producers/directors in the mainstream media who are homosexual activists. I think we should OUT them!

175 posted on 02/24/2004 9:52:00 AM PST by Laura Lee (Gays in the media)
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To: wilmington2
The Gubinator is a Democrat in Republican clothing. Nobody who sleeps with a Kennedy for years can't possible avoid the psychological scars.

(By the way, she is looking more and more like Morticia as the years go by.)
176 posted on 02/24/2004 9:56:29 AM PST by ZULU (GOD BLESS SENATOR McCARTHY!!!!)
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To: MississippiMan
Bush isn't really the problem. If he had more conservatives in COngress to back him his agenda would be different.

With friends like Orrin Hatch, who needs an enemy?
177 posted on 02/24/2004 9:58:38 AM PST by ZULU (GOD BLESS SENATOR McCARTHY!!!!)
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To: Laura Lee
To be honest, I've no knowledge whatsoever of Sex in the City save for what hoopla about its ending I overheard while driving in a car this week and listening to the TV while doing dishes the other day.

We're agreed, no doubt, on the desensitization aspect. Given the commercials one sees dotting the allegedly G-rated hours of viewing, I can't imagine ANY responsible parent would allow their children to watch television these days. I know I wouldn't.

I think the only way to counter desentization is to reinstill the operation of shame. Very difficult thing to in this age of Self-Esteem without being accused of a Hate Crime or being some Judgmental sort with a superiority complex.

But outside a person's having the opportunity to engender a real respect for the sanctity of human life (one's self and others) and human sexuality, shame seems to me to be the opposite of the "shock value" which is used to numb us as you say.

Have you any thoughts on how one goes about countering the very real campaign of desensitization?
178 posted on 02/24/2004 11:27:46 PM PST by Askel5
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To: Askel5
Desensitization is why CNN is CONSTANTLY playing tape of homosexuals kissing during the homosexual marriage story.

That is a subject that needs a good freep just like janet jackson.
179 posted on 02/24/2004 11:34:49 PM PST by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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To: longtermmemmory
=== Desensitization is why CNN is CONSTANTLY playing tape of homosexuals kissing during the homosexual marriage story.


You know ... it's funny. You'd think after 15 years of living in the Quarter and doing theatre and such, I'd have been desensitized to just about anything.

But not the kiss.

I don't hang around screaming queens as a rule ... that's probably part of the reason I'm spared a lot of PDA. But seeing two men kiss still creeps me out bigtime.

It's a pity more men don't enjoy these same sensibilities where Lesbianism is concerned. I suspect that if CNN were looping lesbian sex (much less a kiss ... surely passe now that Spears and Madonna are doing it prime time), it would be caught on tape and kept.
180 posted on 02/25/2004 12:27:01 AM PST by Askel5
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To: little jeremiah
BTW ... in pulling some periodicals from the shelves tonight, I went ahead and pulled what I saw on the subject of marriage in the hopes I can better illustrate for you the fact that your fight against the "homosexual agenda" is better fought first among heterosexuals who are deceived in thinking themselves somehow distinct from homosexuals due strictly to the anatomical realities which they BOTH overcome by CHOICEs of one sort or another.
181 posted on 02/25/2004 12:29:33 AM PST by Askel5
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To: Askel5
I go to europe frequently and even they get creeped out with two homosexual lip locking. Traditional cheeck and cheeck is benign and not the same, as long as it is done IN europe.

BTW A greek broadcaster was fined for showing the madona/spears kiss.
182 posted on 02/25/2004 12:34:16 AM PST by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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To: longtermmemmory
=== Traditional cheeck and cheeck is benign and not the same, as long as it is done IN europe.

Lol ... OR New Orleans.

Males greeting in that style doesn't bother me at all. (Though it's possible it would have had I not traveled abroad some as well.)

I've even loosened up the last decade or so and no longer freeze like an Okie or sumpin' when a friend-of-a-friend or some such stranger takes my hand to welcome me in with a kiss on the cheek. =)



183 posted on 02/25/2004 1:01:09 AM PST by Askel5
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To: little jeremiah
The Stamp of Normality
184 posted on 02/25/2004 6:27:13 AM PST by EdReform (Support Free Republic - All donations are greatly appreciated. Thank you for your support!)
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To: Americathy
Ping
185 posted on 02/25/2004 11:44:55 AM PST by EdReform (Support Free Republic - All donations are greatly appreciated. Thank you for your support!)
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To: EdReform
Here's a couple of simple things anyone can do.

1. Support the Boy Scouts - donate money, time, whatever one can do. Put bumper stickers on the SUV supporting them.

2. Don't use the word "gay" in conversation. The homosexuals and their handmaidens have hijacked a perfectly good English word to try to cover the icky things they do with prettiness.

3. Take back rainbows. Now when I see a rainbow sticker anywhere, I feel slightly sick to my stomach. It would be great to have a bumper sticker with a rainbow on it saying (just off the top of my head) "Proof of God's love" or "Rainbows don't mean sodomy" (I know, that one is kind of heavy!) or "Rainbows belong to everyone" - "Rainbows - God's promise".

I don't want rainbows to symbolize the homosexual agenda any more.

Take Back the Rainbow!
186 posted on 02/25/2004 7:09:47 PM PST by little jeremiah (...men of intemperate minds can not be free. Their passions forge their fetters.)
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To: little jeremiah
I think a bit of activism similar to the AA bake sales is in order. Maybe a campus heterosexual "coming out" day or even straights on campus can take their own polls about feeling "included" on campus... just a thought.
187 posted on 02/25/2004 8:39:34 PM PST by rocky88 (Kerry for President......OF FRANCE!)
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To: rocky88
Thanks! Actually SOON I am going to put up some stuff from Scott Lively's website. I've been meaning to for days but have had too many other things to do. Livley has "kits" for kids at high schools and college students to use to protect themselves from the "gay" activists, and materials to help defend themselves in arguments, and defeat - using reaon and logic - people who are promoting homosexuality.

188 posted on 02/26/2004 12:53:19 AM PST by little jeremiah (...men of intemperate minds can not be free. Their passions forge their fetters.)
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To: little jeremiah
YES! I have been bugged by the usurping of the rainbow.
189 posted on 02/26/2004 12:56:47 AM PST by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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To: longtermmemmory
It seriously disturbs me. Rainbows are one of the most beautiful and etheral manifestations in the created world. They represent purity, beauty, heaven and God's mercy or promise in every religion (AFAIK), and for sodomy practitioners to usurp them as their symbol is disgusting and I am SICK of it.
190 posted on 02/26/2004 1:07:35 AM PST by little jeremiah (...men of intemperate minds can not be free. Their passions forge their fetters.)
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To: Askel5
Good question. I guess it "takes a village" and the village has become extremely blase about sexual expressiveness. I can't say that's totally bad because I also remember the 1950s, when the very word "sex" was not used in polite company. I wouldn't want to go back to those days but now that the pendulum has swung so far in the opposite direction, wouldn't it be nice if a healthy respect for sexuality and its spiritual dimension would begin to blossom?

I believe parents are finally stepping up to the plate and demanding a healthier environment for their kids, after the debacle of the Super Bowl halftime and all the perversion that is being shoved in our faces. That's what is needed: Parents. Two parents, one of EACH gender, looking out for their kids from their different perspectives. Creating harmony and balance in the life of the growing child.

That's what I'm promoting in my letters to the editor and other responses to this latest "gay marriage" assault on our culture. We are allowing homosexual adult "rights" to trump children's NEEDS. That is not justice, not fair, not right. Children need to grow up in a village which upholds the standards of natural law. No kid gets born without a sperm and an egg coming together. No kid should have to grow up without a father and a mother guiding him along his way. Lots of kids do have to grow up without that ideal, but society should never abandon the ideal and say, "Oh well, anybody can call himself a wife, mother, father, whatever...." Natural law must be reinforced by society's laws.

I'm working on a poem that begins with: "The laws of man may wax and wane, but laws of Nature stay the same."

191 posted on 02/26/2004 7:43:04 PM PST by Laura Lee (Gays in the media)
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To: All; little jeremiah

The truth about the "gay" agenda - what they do, what they want for the rest of us, their dysfunctional, miserable lives - needs to get publicized.


Copy, paste, print and pass (or email) this information on to family and friends:

The Overhauling of Straight America
( www.abidingtruth.com/pfrc/archives.php?id=8142838 )

The Homosexual Propaganda and Media Manipulation Game
( www.takebackmaryland.org/ASP/XcNewsPlus/XcNewsPlus.asp?cmd=view&articleid=23 )

Seven Steps to Recruit-proof Your Child
( www.scottlively.com/sevensteps/ )

Choice 4 Truth
( www.choice4truth.com )

National Association for Research and Therapy of Homosexuality (NARTH)
( www.narth.com )

Thought Reform and The Psychology of Homosexual Advocacy
( www.leaderu.com/orgs/narth/1995papers/socarides.html )

Homosexual Activism in the APA and the Removal of Homosexuality from the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM)
( www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1026551/posts?page=46#46 )


Homosexual Agenda: Categorical Index of Links (Version 1.1)
( www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1026551/posts )

What We Can Do To Help Defeat the "Gay" Agenda
( www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1076476/posts )

192 posted on 03/01/2004 7:40:49 AM PST by EdReform (Support Free Republic - All donations are greatly appreciated. Thank you for your support!)
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To: little jeremiah
11 Ways You Can Fight the Homosexual Agenda

CitizenLink Q&A: The Homosexual Agenda

The Homosexual Agenda

193 posted on 03/01/2004 8:57:08 AM PST by EdReform (Support Free Republic - All donations are greatly appreciated. Thank you for your support!)
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To: little jeremiah
"Everyone needs happiness, love and pleasure. These needs stem directly from the soul, and get interpreted through the body..."

um...
If this set of statements were correct, brain damage could NOT cause radical alterations in personality, mood, or desires.
Since brain damage can and routinely does cause such alterations, the statement set appears dubious.
Other than that, not a bad article at all.
194 posted on 03/01/2004 5:33:50 PM PST by King Prout (I am coming to think that the tree of liberty is presently dying of thirst.)
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To: King Prout
This is a huge topic. Where is the self - is the self the brain? Is the self the heart? Is the self the mind? Etc. The self is definitely not the brain, the brain being kind of like a computer that the self is using (albeit without knowing exactly HOW it's being done, usually) to use the senses and organs of action in relating to the world. How do I know this?

Here's one way - I have a dear friend who died a few years ago of brain cancer. The cancer itself as well as the failed medical treatments left his brain incomplete and ruined. But HE was still there, he could still relate to people with his same love and humor (until he had to shuffle off the mortal coil). Even though his brain was not very functional at all. People had to help him with simple functions. But his spirit shone through the broken tool.

I have another dear friend who was in a terrible automobile accident and lost a large chunk of his brain, was in a coma for weeks, and when he came out of it, he was out of it! He lost his brilliant intelligence, his good looks, his physical strength, and can barely walk. But HE is still there, even though his vehicle is damaged. I have had wonderful conversations with him, and I can vouche for his presence. He actually is thankful for his accident, it taught him to be a better human being.

Also, Yoga philosophy teaches very clearly and specifically what is the nature of the self, where it is located, and how it uses the body and brain to function. Christian teachings are a little more vague but are there in the Bible nonetheless. It is not that easy to experience, but through various methods one can come to not only understand theoretically the soul as the self, but experience it, and in so doing, go beyond the limits of the physical brain.

And this is the beginning of real pleasure and happiness, compared to which the pleasures of the body are shallow indeed.
195 posted on 03/01/2004 7:28:59 PM PST by little jeremiah (...men of intemperate minds can not be free. Their passions forge their fetters.)
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To: little jeremiah
all science points to a cellular or biological basis for every single trait which religionists have formerly ascribed to the soul.

selective brain damage can accentuate or destroy these traits. a man's basic personality can be utterly and permanently altered by the severing of just a few nerve conduits. his perceptions and behaviours are similarly vulnerable. love, humour, intellect, religious devotion, ecstatic visions, profound black despair, all these and all others can be induced by brain damage.

that is a medical fact.

surely such material damage could have no effect on a soul.

so, again, your postulate is rendered dubious.
196 posted on 03/01/2004 8:34:37 PM PST by King Prout (I am coming to think that the tree of liberty is presently dying of thirst.)
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To: King Prout
Here's the interesting point - for a person who acts on the level of only bodily indentification, is not "enlightened" to their nature as soul, malfunctions of the brain due to disease, accident or mischance of birth, naturally can have profound effects on behavior, character traits, emotions, and so on.

For a person who experiences (through yogic practices, religious visions or other methods of enlightenment) his existence as the soul - variously called atma, jivatma and other terms - even damage to the brain does not necessarily affect the state of consciousness; depending on how deep and complete such person's experience is.

Even someone who may not have achieved great level of perfection in such realization can experience a much deeper level of consciousness than that which is filtered through the brain. Some people have out of body experiences, near death experiences, and so on, which are not explainable solely in terms of brain or chemical terms. Of course, scientists or doctors who are already convinced there is no self other than the brain think they have explained things satisfactorily. But to someone who has had such experiences, they just laugh at theories that deny the existence of the soul.

There is a new book that discusses this subject in detail that I intend to buy - Human Devolution by Michael Cremo. His previous book "Forbidden Archeology" was highly entertaining, and very well researched. Kind of off topic, though, for this thread.

197 posted on 03/01/2004 9:21:53 PM PST by little jeremiah (...men of intemperate minds can not be free. Their passions forge their fetters.)
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To: King Prout
P.S. - Often even religionists misunderstand the nature of the soul, and attribute aspects of personal existence to the soul which are really parts of the subtle body (mind, intelligence, and ego). It is quite a science, and unfortunately not much understood currently, and completely ignored and scorned by most scientists and researchers.

It's the kind of knowledge that means little (even if studied) until put into practice and experienced.
198 posted on 03/01/2004 9:25:22 PM PST by little jeremiah (...men of intemperate minds can not be free. Their passions forge their fetters.)
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To: little jeremiah
Uber-enlightened Swami Biggamouth-Puta says "For a person who experiences (through yogic practices, religious visions or other methods of enlightenment) his existence as the soul - variously called atma, jivatma and other terms - even damage to the brain does not necessarily affect the state of consciousness; depending on how deep and complete such person's experience is."

Realist Loki says "oh, reeeeeeally?" and puts a bullet through the Swami's noggin, carefully missing the cerebellum, pons, and medulla, but fully scrambling the Swami's frontal lobes.

The Swami spends the rest of his life saying "*drool*"

Sorry, LJ, but hard facts trump pleasant fictions.
199 posted on 03/02/2004 9:54:20 AM PST by King Prout (I am coming to think that the tree of liberty is presently dying of thirst.)
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To: King Prout
Sorry you can't hear what I am saying.
Theories are fine, but experience/realization trumps current scientific theories.

I hope we can agree to disagree respectfully, as I admire your wit and pithy comments.
200 posted on 03/02/2004 12:50:52 PM PST by little jeremiah (...men of intemperate minds can not be free. Their passions forge their fetters.)
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