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What We Can Do To Help Defeat the "Gay" Agenda
self | February 11, 2004 | little jeremiah

Posted on 02/11/2004 9:00:13 PM PST by little jeremiah

What We Can Do To Defeat The "Gay" Agenda

Dear Fellow Freepers,

The following informal essay has two parts, the first consisting of ideas of what individuals or small groups can do to help thwart, roll back, defeat and otherwise throw a monkey wrench into the onslaught of the "gay" agenda and their stated goal to destroy the moral fabric of society. I am hoping that discussion will ensue, with theoretical ideas as well as accomplished plans. Information and knowledge are the key. Since most people just watch TV and read the establishment media, which are lapdogs of the "gay" elite, they just do not know the truth about homosexuality.

The second part is my analysis of the root cause of the homosexual movement, going a bit deeper than environment and molestation. It is "religious" or "spiritual" in aspect, so anyone who wishes to avoid that type of discussion can avoid it! This analysis is germane to the cure, not only of the homosexual agenda, but the untrammeled hedonism and libertinism of which homosexuality is the poster child.

[Note: I am not attempting to recap the immediate causes of homosexuality, or prove that it is not inborn, or give evidence as to why same sex acts are abnormal, unhealthy, or immoral, or to prove that homosexuals can change. FR already has hundreds of archived articles of this nature.]

Part One: Ideas on Promoting the Truth about Homosexuality

A friend of ours homeschools her children, so as to protect them from the horrible influence of public schools, instill her personal moral values, and give them the best education possible. She knew that homosexuality was unhealthy, immoral, and unnatural, but until I gave her books and booklets I purchased from Scott Lively's website (www.abidingtruth.com) she was not able to articulate her viewpoint. After studying the materials I provided, she became a one-woman task force, gave her elderly father books to read, and shared the books with the charter/homeschool teacher. The teacher, who also had not been very well-informed, had her mind blown (so to speak) and ordered more materials for herself, and placed a link to Lively's website on her personal website. Lively has a number of very informative booklets that can be purchased in bulk cheap, and they are great for distributing. So because I informed one friend, many others have been informed. This particular charter school is all for homeschooled children, and there are about 500 families involved.

By purchasing Lively's materials (or reprints from other groups such as NAARTH and the Family Research Council) and making them available at your church, synagogue or other house of worship, many people can become informed. Materials can be purchased and mailed or given to pastors at other churches, or any organization or club that you belong to.

I have found that if I talk to people in the line at the grocery store, or the cashier, often people are happy to find that others have the same viewpoint, but they are afraid to admit that they think same sex acts to be unhealthy or wrong. Just by speaking up in public, we can encourage others to think for themselves, and not be intimidated by social pressure.

Of course, letters can be written to newspapers (they've never printed one of mine!), legislators, and media people. We could try calling up local talk radio shows to tell the truth or attend school board meetings to protest the homosexual infiltration of the schools. Of course, by doing any of these things we will be "outing" ourselves as homophobes ;-) but that's the risk one takes by speaking the truth.

And then there are guerilla tactics: print up some fact sheets about the nature of and diseases spread by homosexual acts, statistics about molestation rates, etc - make them colorful and readable, and broadcast them about town. Laudromats, bulletin boards in stores, public facilities, rest stops, community college or other educational institutions, any place you can find. Good places would be where there is a lot of foot traffic, especially where high school kids can see them. High schools kids are really being targeted by homosexual activists, so the more they can see the truth, the better.

Another post-it tactic: make or obtain stickers with the names and phone numbers of organizations that help people overcome homosexuality, and stick them near high schools, colleges, downtowns, and so on. You never know whose life might change because of one phone call. Or, place ads in the classified ads section of local newspapers or weekly magazines with the same information.

Other promotional ideas are bumper stickers (make you own, or maybe someone knows where to order pro-family stickers). Ideas for slogans: Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve; Marriage=One Man+One Woman; Children Need a Mother and Father, Not Two of a Kind; Same Sex Acts Are Not Healthy For Living Things; Want to get AIDS? Be Gay!; Don't confuse "Exit" with "Entry"; Don't Mess With Marriage; "Gay" Sex Isn't Gay…. These could also be signs in car windows, yard signs, signs held at rallies.

Protest at "Gay Pride" Parades. If protesting at such public events, wear protective clothing and go in groups, carry antiseptic handwipes and have a camera and maybe tape recorder. No telling what might ensue. Here's an idea that someone freepmailed to me, and it sounds good:

"I have an idea I'd like to pass your way. I suggest that we get permits to set up tables in front of (or near) our respective churches/synagogues along the local "Pride" parade routes this coming June, with literature about reparative therapy. Each table should also have someone there to document all the juvenile insults and threats thrown our way on a videocam, and send copies of the films to the local tv news to include as part of their coverage."

These are just a few ideas. Let's hear yours!

Part Two: The Root Cause of Homosexuality

Everyone needs happiness, love and pleasure. These needs stem directly from the soul, and get interpreted through the body - think of how many people eat because they are lonely, depressed, or in anxiety. A healthy balanced person will eat when hungry, and when in need of companionship will turn to a relative, friend, or even pet for company. The need for love is really paramount, a deeper need than the bodily requirements. What hurts more, a broken heart, or a hungry stomach? Our culture has denied the fact - basic to all religions (probably a few exceptions, but this is not the debate here) - that human beings even have souls, what to speak of the needs of the soul. In fact, the accepted "scientifically based" theory is that humans are just machines, made of chemicals, evolved by accident, and the "self" doesn’t even really exist. In an atmosphere of such impersonal nihilism, it is natural that many people will be easily convinced that real love, real happiness, real heart to heart connection, don't exist.

What can take its place? Instant pleasure. Shopping. Drug and alcohol abuse. Or, most seductive of all, orgasms. And since the sexual organs have no conscience, a wide variety of options is available to people who have been convinced that God doesn't exist, there are no rules - or higher purpose - to life, and instant gratification is the only yardstick to measure happiness with.

There are two kinds of happiness - the kind that comes from the outside - eating, sex, comforts, and the devices or arrangements that facilitate such, as well as more intangible pleasures such as accomplishments, goals achieved, music, arts, learning, and so on. The second kind of happiness comes only from within the heart, and this happiness is our relationship with God. Jesus said that the Kingdom of God is within us, and the same truth is stated in Hindu scriptures (the Vedas) as well. A surrendered soul can experience the loving embrace of God anywhere, any time - if he truly desires and strives for this loving relationship. The experience that God is my best friend, my only refuge, my source of happiness, and indeed, the very foundation for and purpose of my existence - is the only real meaning of religion. Currently, in many religions, the concept that God is a real Person is left out, glossed over, He is described as an amorphous mystery, or that "we are God", or that He is just energy or a force. But according to Jesus, the teachings in the Old Testament, and the teachings of the Vedas, re-establishing a loving relationship with the Supreme Person is the only thing that will fill the emptiness in our hearts. If this knowledge is denied, as in most of our culture, people will seek to fill this void by any means at hand. And if the moral absolutes that are part of God's instructions to humanity are tossed out, then anything goes. If sexual pleasure is the goal of life, and there are no eternal moral truths, then there is no reason to not accept same sex acts, or, for that matter, any kind of sexual activity.

Therefore, the real antidote to the "gay" agenda, as well as the breakdown of civilization it heralds, is the spiritual awakening of many individuals, and the understanding that such an awakening is not only important but essential.


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To: Thinking-in-PDX

I have a couple of minutes before my computer heats up too much...

I am *very strongly* in favor of righteous minded people serving in public office. I can't tell you how strongly in favor of that I am. I fully support (at least in words, and hopefully with money) rightminded candidates such as Alan Keyes, and Mike Gabbard in Hawaii. The more rightminded individuals run for office and succeed, the more this country has a chance.

But putting children in public screwels is a whole 'nother thing. Children need protection from leftist, hedonist, atheist, homo-jihadi indoctrination. Gov't schools are nothing more than educational indoctrination centers. Putting kids in schools is nothing more than sending them to a spiritual slaughter house.

But adults? It is our DUTY to do whatever we can - large or small - to save our country and indeed, the world, from the jihadis of all stripes.


301 posted on 08/05/2004 11:30:14 AM PDT by little jeremiah (The Islamic Jihad and the Homosexual Jihad both want to destroy us.)
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To: Askel5

"Folks could start by rescinding their "right" to non-procreative sex and their "right" to have children by artificial means."

Boy, you just lost me.

My wife and I are both 49 and have NO intention of having any more children. We also have NO intention of giving up the pleasure of sex, which is one way we express our love for each other. Are you seriously suggesting we do so?

Friends of ours had a child by artificial means because they couldn't so otherwise. Are you seriously suggesting they would be better off childless? If so, that's pretty sick.


302 posted on 08/05/2004 11:38:12 AM PDT by Gone GF
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To: Thinking-in-PDX

A very quick response - the extremist homosexuals that you seem to consider fringe are the leaders, the savants, the visionaries of the "gay" rights movement. The spokespeople who go on TV and are interviewed for public consumption consciously preserve a "mainstream" appearance and demeanor - no flamers, no leather studded jockstraps, no butch women with facial hair, etc. And they purposely keep their message falsely toned down, asking for merely "equality".

But if you read what they write for "in house" consumption, check out footage of "Gay Pride" parades, and read what they consistenly engage in as well as consider a legitimate lifestyle (for instance, in Britain homosexuals have demanded to be allowed to practice cruising for anonymous sex in public bathrooms as part of their culture), and, worst of all, their use of public schools as indoctrination and recruitment centers - I think you'll change your viewpoint.

Have you read "After the Ball" or the summary which has been posted on FR a lot? Or really checked out EdReform's and Scripter's links?

There's more info on FR about the homosexual agenda in one place, than anywhere else on the internet.

In this issue, more and more, we have to be on one side or the other. And the other side fights dirty, and will fight dirtier before it's over.


303 posted on 08/05/2004 11:44:53 AM PDT by little jeremiah (The Islamic Jihad and the Homosexual Jihad both want to destroy us.)
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To: Gone GF

===== My wife and I are both 49 and have NO intention of having any more children. We also have NO intention of giving up the pleasure of sex, which is one way we express our love for each other. Are you seriously suggesting we do so?


Are you Christian? Because if you're not Christian, I'm sure you're within your rights to sterilize yourselves, have abortions, use abortifacient birth control or whatever pesticide you deem best for preventing human life so that you can enjoy the Evolutionary Advance of Modern Man that is non-procreative sex.




=== Friends of ours had a child by artificial means because they couldn't so otherwise. Are you seriously suggesting they would be better off childless?

Are there no children left in China, the former Soviet Union or the United States to adopt? You get a fat $10,000 tax cut if you shop for kids at one of the current or former communist countries, you know.


I'm sure that the children they had to sacrifice (unless, of course, some "humanitarian" snapped them up for stem cell research) were well worth the trouble of obtaining with a for-profit sex partner the Child they had a Right to Have.

You can thank your friends, by the way, for paving the way for the homosexual "right" to have kids. I'm sure God didn't intend homosexuals to be "better off" childless simply because their sexual relations do not produce offspring either.


304 posted on 08/05/2004 3:32:09 PM PDT by Askel5 ( Cooperatio voluntaria ad suicidium est legi morali contraria. )
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To: Gone GF

P.S. all that said, heartening to hear that two 49-year olds have no intention of giving up sex.

A rare bright spot among many of the married folks around here who perpetually gripe in public about not getting any.


305 posted on 08/05/2004 3:33:41 PM PDT by Askel5 ( Cooperatio voluntaria ad suicidium est legi morali contraria. )
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To: little jeremiah; Askel5
In a similar way, if people in general - who obviously don't have their morality as fine tuned as you do (or me, I basically agree with everything you say) can at least draw the line at same sex sodomy, there's a chance maybe their view of what is moral and what is not may become more and more enlightened. I don't think it useful to want all or nothing.

I just found this thread, That said here's my $0.02

All wars have specific battles that will determine the outcome of the war.

Same sex marriage is the battle that will win or lose the culture war as a whole. The majority of Americans are against sodomarriage and we need to keep it that way.

By fighting and defeating the homo-agenda more people come to realize that other battles of the culture war can be won as well. Christians and Conservatives alike combined had record turnout at the polls this year and "moral issues" were the #1 motivation for that.

That my FRiends is a good sign. The truth is getting out despite the efforts of the leftist groups and the left wing propaganda machine (MSM)

Fight the good fight! we can win!

306 posted on 11/10/2004 2:25:58 AM PST by DirtyHarryY2K (The reason the "youth vote" failed for democrats: 30 years of abortion.)
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To: DirtyHarryY2K

Thanks. Since I wrote the original rant, a lot of stuff has happened, good and bad.

Now the "gay" rights people are freaking out, since the sodomarriage (that's a good word) referenda fail wherever they're tried.

They're rushing screaming to the courts, naturally. I don't think us conservatives and people in general who do not favor perverting marriage will take kindly to giving up our rule of law to activist leftist judges.

The more the masks come of leftists of all stripes, especially homo-activists who are among the worst of the worst, the better. It may help some sleeping people awaken.


307 posted on 11/10/2004 8:10:44 AM PST by little jeremiah (Moral absolutes are what make humans human.)
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To: little jeremiah

BTTT


308 posted on 11/28/2004 4:32:59 PM PST by EdReform (Free Republic - helping to keep our country a free republic. Thank you for your financial support!)
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To: little jeremiah

Another Resource Ping for the future.

THANK you little jeremiah.


309 posted on 12/16/2004 10:39:25 AM PST by HighlyOpinionated (I'd say something on this tagline, but the truth speaks for itself.)
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To: Askel5
Magnificently stated.

The government needs to cease all subsidizing of our private lives, stop rescuing us from bad life decisions.

Then, we will make fewer bad decisions, because we will have to bear the cost ourselves. Non-marital sex, and homosexuality, and other destructive behaviors, would be curbed greatly, because the are inherently inefficient.

Laisez-faire lifestlyes are not laisez-faire if the government is there to isolate you from the consequences of your actions.
310 posted on 12/16/2004 10:41:21 AM PST by Miykayl
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To: HighlyOpinionated

There are as many enemies within as without.


311 posted on 12/16/2004 10:48:18 AM PST by little jeremiah (What would happen if everyone decided their own "right and wrong"?)
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To: little jeremiah

it must be defeated. the future of the nation is at stake.


312 posted on 12/29/2004 9:17:42 AM PST by the invisib1e hand (Leftists Are Losers.)
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To: little jeremiah
As time goes by, the vile anti-social behavior of Queers steadily gets worse and worse . . . as this current FReeper article demonstrates!!! Therefore, allow me to repeat my own personal rant one more time:

Oak Hay, so I'm very disturbed and continually puzzled about how a small bunch of contrary to nature freaks can destroy our entire civilization. . . BUT DAMMIT, THEY'RE DOING IT !!!

These unsavory and unclean sub-human creatures delight in ramming their urine exhaust pipes into the rectal relief tubes of young boys (and of each other) !!! They brag and crow loudly about their filthy behavior !!! They demand access to our young and innocent children... so they can commit sodomy and oral sex acts upon them!!! Then they scream and holler...

"Homophobe"

... when we seek to save our children from their filthy and immoral activities!!! WHY IS THIS ALLOWED TO CONTINUE IN THIS ONCE-FREE REPUBLIC ??? DO WE NOT HAVE THE RIGHT AND MORAL DUTY TO PROTECT OUR CHILDREN FROM SLIME LIKE THIS ???

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313 posted on 01/24/2005 4:51:42 PM PST by GeekDejure ( LOL = Liberals Obey Lucifer !!!)
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To: GeekDejure

Many people are living a lie. They have bought the lie that there are no moral absolutes, that whatever they think and feel is good just because it popped into their minds. They worship their own desires as idols who must be served. They have given up on understanding the deep truths that are taught in every monotheist religion in the history of the world.

They are self-centered, interested mostly in personal gratification and the gratification of those who they have interest in. When people are intoxicated by absorption in the crudest sort of self-interest, unrestrained and unenlightened by any spiritual values, we see a society fast devolving into worse than animal existence.

The solution? I don't know. But those of us who see the light have to try our best, and pray to God for help.


314 posted on 01/24/2005 7:47:25 PM PST by little jeremiah (Moral Absolutes are what make the world go round.)
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To: little jeremiah; nicmarlo; BykrBayb; jwalsh07; SweetCaroline; DaveTesla; Grampa Dave; ...

BTTT!


315 posted on 01/26/2005 1:55:16 PM PST by EdReform (Free Republic - helping to keep our country a free republic. Thank you for your financial support!)
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To: GeekDejure; EdReform
When you scream in a forest does anyone hear?

Many of us feel like you, many of us scream like you. When I see that I THANK YOU, because it's what I do silently every time I read about this evil.

I see more people hearing us now, but for years the number of hits GAY THREADS had could be counted on your fingers and toes. Many good Freepers like EdReform, scripter, and others did alot of work and didn't give up even though not many Freepers were listening about the threats to their children.

Thanks to the gays themselves for pushing their agenda vigorously in an election year the general public took notice. What we have been telling freepers all along, they can now see for themselves, and they have jumped on the bandwagon.

Let's keep screaming and doing what we can to protect our and everyone else's children from the pure evil knocking at the door.

316 posted on 01/26/2005 3:15:23 PM PST by SweetCaroline (Be still and rest in the Lord; wait for Him and lean yourself upon him... Psalm 37:7)
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To: SweetCaroline; scripter

Bump & Ping


317 posted on 01/26/2005 3:17:14 PM PST by EdReform (Free Republic - helping to keep our country a free republic. Thank you for your financial support!)
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To: SweetCaroline

Opps, thought I pinged scriter also! my bad:(


318 posted on 01/26/2005 3:21:42 PM PST by SweetCaroline (Be still and rest in the Lord; wait for Him and lean yourself upon him... Psalm 37:7)
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To: SweetCaroline

Who's scriter? ;-)


319 posted on 01/26/2005 3:32:25 PM PST by scripter (Tens of thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle)
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To: scripter
Not only did I not ping you, I can't even spell your name right!!!! Think I need a nap hehe
320 posted on 01/26/2005 3:38:20 PM PST by SweetCaroline (Be still and rest in the Lord; wait for Him and lean yourself upon him... Psalm 37:7)
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To: Wowsa

I have a strange feeling that you wouldn't recognize the "gay" agenda if it slapped you upside the head... OTOH, maybe it already has.

The situation is this: Conservatives such as myself and many others on FR understand the nature of the "gay" life very well, plus their agenda, plans, techniques and methods.

People like you, however, are shills for the "gay" agenda or useful idiots - IOW, people who have bought the lie.

I suggest you click the links on the thread and read up. Educate yourself. Don't get taken advantage of by those who are addicted to miserable, unnatural, perverted sex who are suffering from serious psychological illness.

Remember, there are tens of thousands of former homosexuals.


322 posted on 01/28/2005 5:38:40 AM PST by little jeremiah (Moral Absolutes are what make the world go round.)
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To: little jeremiah

repeal hate crimes laws and sexual orientation and gender preferences. if you don't do this, you don't stand a chance.


323 posted on 01/28/2005 5:39:44 AM PST by the invisib1e hand (Leftists Are Losers.)
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To: the invisib1e hand

That's a given. Any law which gives any recognition or special protection to anyone solely because of their sexual acts is anti-liberty, fascist, and borders on totalitarian thought control.

What to speak of promoting psychological and phsycial illness.


324 posted on 01/28/2005 5:43:31 AM PST by little jeremiah (Moral Absolutes are what make the world go round.)
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To: little jeremiah; EdReform

bttt


325 posted on 01/31/2005 4:05:29 AM PST by nicmarlo
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To: little jeremiah; scripter

BTTT!

Dang, I missed another troll!


326 posted on 01/31/2005 8:26:06 AM PST by EdReform (Free Republic - helping to keep our country a free republic. Thank you for your financial support!)
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To: nicmarlo; SweetCaroline

BTTT


327 posted on 01/31/2005 8:26:31 AM PST by EdReform (Free Republic - helping to keep our country a free republic. Thank you for your financial support!)
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To: EdReform

Yup, Wowsa didn't last long. It's always "funny" when somone signs up, and their first comment is to complain about this thread. Makes you wonder.


328 posted on 01/31/2005 4:08:07 PM PST by little jeremiah (Moral Absolutes are what make the world go round.)
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To: little jeremiah

Some folks just don't like seeing the homosexual agenda exposed.


329 posted on 02/01/2005 4:05:27 PM PST by EdReform (Free Republic - helping to keep our country a free republic. Thank you for your financial support!)
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To: little jeremiah; gidget7; EdReform; Antoninus; longtermmemmory; Clint N. Suhks; nicmarlo
I have found that if I talk to people in the line at the grocery store, or the cashier, often people are happy to find that others have the same viewpoint, but they are afraid to admit that they think same sex acts to be unhealthy or wrong. Just by speaking up in public, we can encourage others to think for themselves, and not be intimidated by social pressure.

This is a good point and a great idea, and it works. Last week on the bus I was reading one of the papers on homosexuality, and someone asked me what I was reading, and instead of just saying "an article on homosexuality," I said, "It's an article that explains how homosex. is abnormal despite what gay advocates want us to believe..." The boy who asked me the question said, "Yeah, it's not natural. I like GIRLS! Queers are weird."

While I don't advocate calling homosexuals names, I thought it was good that at least this boy voiced his opinion that gays really do have something wrong with them rather than not responding. People really hate to come across as politically incorrect, so they keep their opinions to themselves too often. We need to speak up and encourage others to talk about it where others can hear. Someone who is walking the fence about the issue can be brought back to their senses just by hearing someone else say, "Wait a minute; homosexuality is NOT normal!"

331 posted on 02/16/2005 12:34:57 AM PST by Mockingbird For Short
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To: little jeremiah

bttt


332 posted on 02/16/2005 12:41:54 AM PST by diamond6 (Everyone who is for abortion has already been born. Ronald Reagan)
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To: Mockingbird For Short; little jeremiah; scripter; SweetCaroline; gidget7; Antoninus; ...
I don't advocate calling homosexuals names either, however I see nothing wrong with teaching children that

'Gay' is NOT OK


If homosexual activists can use the public schools to teach children slogans like "I'm gay and it's OK," then we can certainly teach them that 'Gay' is NOT OK. It's the truth and we have the facts to prove it.

333 posted on 02/16/2005 10:38:48 AM PST by EdReform (Free Republic - helping to keep our country a free republic. Thank you for your financial support!)
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To: little jeremiah

Any idea what #330 was about?


334 posted on 02/16/2005 10:39:28 AM PST by EdReform (Free Republic - helping to keep our country a free republic. Thank you for your financial support!)
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To: little jeremiah

How about sponsored legislation via state insurance commisioners for a mandated heterosexual discount in both life and medical insurance coverage?


335 posted on 02/16/2005 12:31:07 PM PST by DBeers
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To: Askel5
I'm not defending homosexuality in the least.

People may be confused because you appear to be practicing in moral relative argument by neglecting reference to absolute truth and instead comparing and contrasting heterosexual to homosexual.

Such morally relative exercise is innocuous and not authentically sound as regards to the discernment of truth; however, when judging the merit of moral relative argument one must realize to what end it is directed. If the ends are contrary to truth then the seemingly innocuous exercise is in and of itself as disordered as the disordered ends it would promulgate.

Consequently as it appears you are attempting to play devils advocate by equating homosexuality to heterosexuality -many necessarily feel you are in error and actually being a devils advocate...

336 posted on 02/16/2005 12:48:03 PM PST by DBeers
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To: little jeremiah

Several generations of people accepting immorality as benign can't change overnight. At least if people wake up to the fact that two men ( or two women) commiting sodomy isn't and can't be "marriage", it's a start.

Also, there is something particularly vile about the ramming and cramming of homosexuality down kids' throats especially in school. It must be stopped.


RIGHT on both counts! And just because hetero people and the increase of immoral behavior by some heteros has distroyed marriage to a degree, is NO REASON to further degrade marriage, by throwing it all out the window and reconstructing it!! You don't fix anything by further injuring it.


337 posted on 02/16/2005 12:48:38 PM PST by gidget7
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To: little jeremiah
You are absolutely right littlejeremiah!!!! And I know a lot of us are on tight budgets, BUT, hundreds of thousands are donated to help the gay agenda, all over the country! I see here in MA, for every campaign, every law they want passed, every time you turn around there is yet another fundraiser by these activists.

We need to start being accountable and contributing what we can, all of us! Here in MA, 500,000. will come in from at least 5 or 6 places for a particular campaign, or legislation the gay agenda wants to work on. While the conservative side raises 60,000. total from various people. This is why our clout is not as effective, why our voice doesn't get out as well as it should.

Surely we should be able to find some wealthy conservatives, or at the very least, we should all be supporting our cause wherever it needs supporting. Once one state get a court to impose a law, the flood gates are open for the rest of the country.
338 posted on 02/16/2005 1:06:04 PM PST by gidget7
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To: Paloma_55

Sure, some of them are heteros, but they are ALL liberals.


Yes, definately, and most are FEMINISTS!


339 posted on 02/16/2005 1:20:13 PM PST by gidget7
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To: deb-bee
Please would you explain why they would be higher if gays were legally married.

Your question has a false presupposition. The homosexual population as a result of practicing intrinsically disordered and depraved sexual activities has a shorter life span, and significantly more physical and psychological health risks etcetera etcetera.

This can not be a case of comparing apples to oranges -this must be a case of comparing activities e.g apples to apples... In discussing apples one must compare the majority in the barrel to those few that are rotten...

340 posted on 02/16/2005 1:50:32 PM PST by DBeers
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To: EdReform

It disappeared before I saw it.

I'm just back "in town" and it will be a day or two before I can be on FR much.

Overwhelmed as usual. That's ok, idle mind/hands are devil's workshops!

I don't know the meaning of the words "idle" or "boredom".

:-]


341 posted on 02/16/2005 1:56:24 PM PST by little jeremiah (Moral Absolutes are what make the world go round.)
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To: little jeremiah
Once people actually KNOW what homosexuals (a) do sexually, (b) their stated plans for us, (c) their pernicious rates of child molestation, (d) how they spread noxious disease, (e) the fact that homosexuals can and do change and that there are thousands of "ex-homosexuals, and (f) what they are doing in schools across the country right now, most will be opposed to "gay" rights.

hmmm... what you are talking about here is a political campaign by an action committee like swift boat vets for truth e.g. Heterosexuals for Truth.

If someone starts a nonprofit and finds a few some deep pocket contributors to get it started it would not be hard to get the ball rolling on this....

342 posted on 02/16/2005 2:01:43 PM PST by DBeers
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To: DBeers

Well, it certainly would make sense for monogamous heterosexual (i.e. normal) and especially married people to pay less insurance, both health and life.

Will it happen? Or could it? I haven't been reading up on the news for two weeks, but the last I saw, radical/leftist/homosexual pushers looked as though they were frothing at the mouth in their rabid plunge into the abyss, trying to take all of what makes human civilization human along with them.

They don't want to compromise one iota, they want total domination. They will either be utterly defeated, or righteousness will be. There can be no half measures in this war. Why? Because any less than complete victory means they will keep trying to destroy all morality, all family, all independence of thought and freedom of association and religious expression.


343 posted on 02/16/2005 2:03:11 PM PST by little jeremiah (Moral Absolutes are what make the world go round.)
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To: peachy08
Now, I'm only 15

You still have much to learn and much that is only learned by experience. LOL -additionally, it appears you require some deprogramming...

344 posted on 02/16/2005 2:07:20 PM PST by DBeers
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To: little jeremiah; EdReform; Clint N. Suhks; Antoninus; longtermmemmory; gidget7; Peach; nicmarlo; ...

How to raise your children to be homosexual:

1. Do not teach your kids about sex--- let the school do it.
2. Do not teach your kids to discern right from wrong; otherwise people might call them "judgmental", "homophobic", or "hateful."
3. Teach your children that every behavior is relative. In fact, truth itself is only relative. What is true and right depends on the situation, not on anything absolute.
4. Do not teach your children about God.
5. Remove all Bibles from your home, or at the least, do not let them see you reading them, because Bibles contain absolutes.
6. Dads, don't spend any one-on-one time with your son doing guy stuff. And definitely don't bond with him, hug him, or kiss him.
7. Dads, don't spend any one-on-one time with your daughter. As much as she'd like you to take her on a special date every once in a while, don't do it; you're too busy, and you might spoil her. And again, don't hug her or kiss her or tell her you think she's pretty.
8. Moms, don't nurture your kids.
9. Moms, be the boss. Scream at Dad and put him down in front of the children.
10. When you see a gay couple on TV or out in public, just ignore them. Whatever you do, don't identify them as homosexual; after all, they are no different from the rest of us.
11. Speak out for same-sex marriage.
12. Portray gay couples and activists as being "misunderstood" and brave "victims of hate speech."
13. Do not shield your children from known sex predators.
14.




Can anyone think of some more? Or does anyone see a better way to word one of mine? Post them here, OK?


345 posted on 03/19/2005 12:39:45 AM PST by Mockingbird For Short (SPEAK OUT against homosex & its offspring: bi-sex, transgendered, pedophilia, GLSEN, GSA...)
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To: little jeremiah

Yes, instant gratification and selfish needs. Marriage is about loving, NOT about being loved. If more people realized that, they might be more inclined not to pursue selfish actions.

Family is the foundation for society. Crack it, or break it down, society crumbles. Marriage is about loving, all members of your family. Putting the love of them and their needs, above your own. If all members of the family do just that, nothing can come between them.


346 posted on 03/19/2005 9:46:31 AM PST by gidget7
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To: little jeremiah

You were right in that donations to organizations that are trying to help us, are extremely important. Donate where the problems are......... "on the front lines" so to speak. If you stop it there, you stop it all over the country!

Homosexuals raise hundreds of thousands in MA, while Article 8 struggles to raise 50,000. There is one of the BIG problems. Because what happens in MA, happens all over the country eventually.


347 posted on 03/19/2005 10:07:25 AM PST by gidget7
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To: little jeremiah

if you read the gannon/guckert threads recently, freepers seem to think gay journalists are cool.


348 posted on 03/19/2005 10:10:25 AM PST by isom35
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To: little jeremiah
Loving criticism for you JL........Stop calling her your spousal unit!! LOL That is generic, and it's what they on the homosexual side want us to do. Here in MA, the generic marriage licenses have partner a and partner b, already. Proudly call her your wife!!
349 posted on 03/19/2005 10:17:53 AM PST by gidget7
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To: little jeremiah
Uplift traditional morals and traditional marriage at every opportunity!!! Verbally, and in action. Do not use generic terms or PC when describing either of those values!

Call homosexuality what it is, do not use PC terms for that either!! Do no call any contract between people of the same sex, or proposed ones, marriage! It denigrates marriage to do so.

In everything you do, elevate marriage to loving, not to selfishness. If your state has a generic marriage license, and you know people planning to marry, suggest they do so in a neighboring state that allows for bride and groom, husband and wife.

If someone speaks to you about pro homosexual things, and you don't feel comfortable disagreeing, laugh warmly and walk away. Make them feel ridiculous.
350 posted on 03/19/2005 10:59:12 AM PST by gidget7
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