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What We Can Do To Help Defeat the "Gay" Agenda
self | February 11, 2004 | little jeremiah

Posted on 02/11/2004 9:00:13 PM PST by little jeremiah

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To: Askel5
Because the homosexuals and their sidekicks in the media are indoctrinating the youth of this country in schools, through entertainment, and the media. Because judges (Nazgul) all over the country are inventing "rights" to sodomy and homo-marriage, thus shoving their perversion down everyone's throats. Because hiding inside our houses being pious won't prevent the queering of America.

The homosexual activists have been very determined, very active, and very aggressive for years. You think they're going to stop now? You think this is as bad as it's going to get? How about when your pastor or priest is arrested or sued for quoting a Bible verse about homosexuality? How about when CPS comes to hassle you because your child said something in school about same sex acts not being normal or healthy?
How about when your car gets sabotaged because you have a pro-family bumper sticker on it? How about at work you are forced to attend pro-homo "diversity" training seminars? How about when your kid goes to college and is forced into the same thing?

Personal piety will get us to where we are now.
51 posted on 02/13/2004 11:33:37 AM PST by little jeremiah (everyone is entitled to their opinion, but everyone isn't entitled to be right.)
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To: little jeremiah
=== Personal piety will get us to where we are now.


I'm getting the impression -- quite strongly -- that "personal piety" is a tack we've yet to use.

Looks like most of the heteros have been quite amenable to the "education" effort of the Government ... particularly where birth control, artificial reproduction and the deconstruction of marriage as an obligation is concerned.

Where we ourselves have adopted the homosexual model of Planned children, non-procreational sex and marriage as a sex-based, mutually beneficial economic relationship that may be dissolved if and when either partner no longer finds the marriage serves their "right to be happy" ... we have no basis on which to argue that homosexual marriage is intrinsically different from Artificially grounded hetero marriage.

That's precisely my point.

And I couldn't disagree with you more that personal piety won't get us anywhere or landed us where we are now.

You'll remember the original reason the Sola Scriptura Contra-Ception guy caught my eye is his reminder that you forgot to mention Prayer as the most valuable, perhaps, tool of spiritual warfare.

For that's what this is all about, after all.
52 posted on 02/13/2004 1:16:05 PM PST by Askel5
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To: Askel5
I appreciate your reasoned reply. I didn't "forget" to add prayer, you must have noticed my final conclusion was that only a spiritual awakening will help this country. Obviously that includes prayer.

But one of my points is that as a supposedly Christian country, people have allowed the homosexuals AND sexual libertines of all stripes to change the entire moral standards in a few generations. By personal piety I mean sitting in church or at home and maybe following scriptural teachings and rules (hopefully) but letting everyone else go to hell.

My point is that being pious oneself at this point is not enough. The other side is more aggressive, more determined, and not only wants to win, but wants us to be totally defeated.

Just like the homosexuals (and other libertines) were not content to sit at home and be perverts, they have done everything they can to change US. So why will sitting at home being pious work? It won't.

Also, you mention about "we ourselves" accepting the Planned Parenthood model of marriage. I never have, and many never have. Of course, the majority have. And why? Propaganda. If people only hear and read and are taught lies, they will believe lies.

So it's time to get the truth out there.
53 posted on 02/13/2004 11:13:03 PM PST by little jeremiah (everyone is entitled to their opinion, but everyone isn't entitled to be right.)
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To: little jeremiah
Here's another idea. It actually happened. A guy I know who works for a smallish city in CA not too far from Sacramento had a rather amusing bumper sticker on his car suggesting a good way to stop AIDS, he wrote letters to the editor about that subject (and others, about abortion), and at his desk had some pro-family (arguing against homosexuality) materials. Other employees had personal materials posted at their desks as well.

He was sued - I THINK by the city, because a female homosexual who also worked there got aggravated. My friend got in touch with the Rutherford Institute, fought the suit - and won! He won several thousand dollars.

Moral - we shouldn't take this assault on our moral values lying down. There are institutions out there who want to help us fight the evil of homosexuality. Maybe some other people know of others. There's Lively and Ackerman's - here's a link:

http://www.defendthefamily.com/


Another thing we can do is donate money (even a little bit helps) or time, or expertise, to organizations that are doing something. I donate money (when I can) to some.
54 posted on 02/14/2004 12:52:05 AM PST by little jeremiah (everyone is entitled to their opinion, but everyone isn't entitled to be right.)
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To: little jeremiah
Okay, another idea. Actually, Scott Lively had (or maybe still has) a project whereby people can donate money specifically to buy books and have them sent to elected officials and others. He had a deal where one could donate money and "The Pink Swastika" would be purchased and sent to rabbis. I think ideas such as that are good, because the whole foundation of the "gay" agenda is based on outright lies, the best weapon in our arsenal is TRUTH.

Similarly, maybe someone (me....? I'm out of my league at the moment) can make a list of some basic books explaining the truth about the homosexual agenda and where they can be purchased in bulk, or at a discount. Whoever wants can then purcahs said books to give them to libraries, school libraries (hah, they probably won't accept them), church libraries or private schools, pastors or ministers, etc.

A really good book for anyone who has kids or teaches, is Lively's:
"Seven Steps To Recruit-Proof Your Child"

A concise, practical guidebook for parents who wish to protect their children from pro-homoesxual indoctrination and the possibility of recruitment into the homosexual lifestyle.

And this one also advertised on his website:

"A Parent's Guide to Preventing Homosexuality"

Much-needed practical advice to parents from one of America\'s leading therapists helping people recover from homosexuality

Or how about this one?
"The Danger of 'Safe Schools'"
A 12-page expose of the homosexual infiltration of public schools in newspaper format.
(this one is free)

Link to the page where these books can be purchased, and many others:

http://www.defendthefamily.com/pfrc/showproducts.php

I am not connected with Livley's organization in any way, I am just more familiar with what he is doing, having read some of his books and tried to assist his organzation with small donations over the years. It would be good to have links and information put up about other worthy groups.

55 posted on 02/14/2004 4:17:20 PM PST by little jeremiah (everyone is entitled to their opinion, but everyone isn't entitled to be right.)
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To: little jeremiah
This is an important link for parents, grandparents, and other who care about children:

Seven Steps to Recruit-proof Your Child


Here are other related links of interest:

A Parent's Guide to Preventing Homosexuality: New Book on Prevention Released in October 2002

How to Protect Your Children From Pro-Homosexuality Propaganda in Schools

Choice 4 Truth


Additional information:

Top 10 Strategies Used By Homosexual Activists in Schools

Activism in the Schools

Parental Notification Laws regarding Gay & Lesbian Programs for Youths?

'Safe Schools Campaign' a Trojan Horse for Homosexual Activists, Family Groups Warn

Assemblyman MOUNTJOY opposes promotion of homosexuality in public schools

56 posted on 02/14/2004 5:15:18 PM PST by EdReform (Support Free Republic - All donations are greatly appreciated. Thank you for your support!)
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To: little jeremiah
We all know what this is about. Nothing has really changed from the Genesis story about depraved men craving sex with the angels of the Most High. Homosexuality is simply the result of people who refuse to acknowledge their Creator and his right to their life. God gives them over to a reprobate mind the Bible says. Homosexuality is an attempt to spit in the Creators face and to to scoff at His design for one man-one woman marriage. Yes, we have lost it in America. We are no longer a God-fearing nation. Unless we have another great awakening we will soon join the rubble of other civilizations like Greece, Rome, etc. God will move on and bestow his grace on some other people who desire to be His people. It is sad and we all know the incremental reasons for this decline. Read Schaefer's "How Should we then live"
Do what you can Christians. Pray, support a Constitutional amendment, but realize the immutable law of reaping what your sowing. Anita Hill tried and was cut down.
57 posted on 02/14/2004 5:30:39 PM PST by 2nd Amendment
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To: 2nd Amendment
oops! Bryant!
58 posted on 02/14/2004 5:32:09 PM PST by 2nd Amendment
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To: 2nd Amendment
I understand what you're saying, but still, my viewpoint is that those of us who do understand the truth have a grave responsibility to do whatever it is we can to defeat the evil of homosexuality (and all that it represents and symbolizes). Whether we can succeed or not is not up to us. Man proposes, God disposes.

The important thing is to do SOMETHING. And what that will be for each person may be different - some people have a lot of money, some people don't. Some people have a way with writing or speaking, some don't. Some people belong to many organizations have access to a wide circle of acquaintances, some don't. Some are computer wizards, some are dolts (me).

IMHO, the way the homosexual activists got to their position of supremacy is because WE, who know better, (or should have), did nothing.

Now, if we don't say or do anything, we'll be like the "good Germans" who said nothing as the cattle cars went down the tracks behind the church.

One kid saved from a hellish life of same sex misery is a wonderful achievement. Maybe that's not the right word, but each and every soul is precious in God's sight, and if we who know better don't do anything to help save some of these poor kids from being seduced and trapped into that hell, how can we look God in the face?
59 posted on 02/14/2004 6:44:26 PM PST by little jeremiah (everyone is entitled to their opinion, but everyone isn't entitled to be right.)
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To: little jeremiah
Homosexuality has always been forbidden in civilized societies.

And why is that? Because it is abnormal and against nature.
Think about it, why were male AND female created in the first place? Or if you must, why did we "evolve" that way? Because that is the way it is supposed to be according to NATURE. Forgive me if I am mistaken but I don't believe there is any animals that are homosexual, are there?
This is what happens when there is no moral right and wrong. History shows again and again when man starts doing well he starts to believe that he alone is truly in control and is self sufficient, so there really isn't a God. After this he then just refuses to acknowledge that there are moral absolutes he will talk himself into believing whatever he says is OK surely is.
This break down of moral absolute led to almost all of mankind being wiped out by the flood in Noah's day, Sodom and Gomorrah in later times, and will again lead to their destruction in the future. /RANT OFF...

60 posted on 02/14/2004 7:31:06 PM PST by alexandria
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To: alexandria
Some homosexuals or homo-promoters claim that some animals species act out homosexually. I am no biologist, but from what I have read these acts are generally when animals are isolated from others of their kind, not in their natural setting, or when immature and their instincts aren't all in place.

That said, even IF some animals did simulate the mating act with males on males or whatever, is that a good reason for humans to act like animals? Most animals also don't mate for life, many animals eat their young, most animals don't build houses, most animals never bathe, etc. Just because some few animals supposedly do something is not a logical rationale for humans to follow their example.

These kinds of "animals do it" arguments are foolish, and only appeal to people who do not believe that God exists, He's in control of nature, and that there is a higher purpose to life than eating and mating.

I totally agree with your point - once moral absolutes are rejected (and they are not sectarian - they are virtually the same in all the world's religious systems) - then the floodgates are opened, and what we are seeing in Massachusetts and San Francisco (and all the links that EdReform and scripter kindly post) will be tame stuff to what's coming in the near future.

Unless, somehow, things turn around. Which was my purpose in starting this thread. A few little pieces of gravel can start an avalanche.
61 posted on 02/14/2004 7:52:18 PM PST by little jeremiah (everyone is entitled to their opinion, but everyone isn't entitled to be right.)
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To: John O
I find nothing wrong with non-procreative sex within the bounds of marrriage as long as an abortifacient is not used. (As I understand it every form of birth control pill is actually abortifacient). I can find nothing in the bible to support banning barrier methods or coitus interuptus.

Actually the pill, and the hormones therein, fools the woman's body into thinking she is already pregnant. When she reaches the week that they have the placebo pills the hormone level then drops off and there is what they call withdrawal bleeding similar to the menstrual bleeding.
After this the cycle starts over but the hormone that would usually be released (LH I think) to cause ovulation does not occur so no egg even matures in the ovaries to be ovulated.

62 posted on 02/14/2004 8:09:52 PM PST by alexandria
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To: little jeremiah
Some homosexuals or homo-promoters claim that some animals species act out homosexually.

The key word being ACT. They are speaking of the situations in which you sometimes see one animal exerting dominance over another. It is not a sexual or even a mating type of action.
I agree of course that we should not pattern ourselves after animals. My point was toward showing that homosexuality itself is against nature.

Getting back on topic. I work in a public school amd I was surprised a how many people, parents and teachers included were unaware of the literature that has filtered into the schools. When speaking to the new media assistant at the middle school last week I was shown a new book of poetry that a student brought to their attention. It was not the homosexual agenda but was sprinkled with foul language and some warped imagery. I then said, "well I can hardly be surprised since they are also lauding these new "tolerance" books for kids like My Two Daddies and such."
You should have seen the reaction, they really did not take me as being serious for a couple of seconds. So I would like to find a list or compile one for them to be able to use to ferret out such material.
This is a small rural school and we may be in California but we have a Trinity Christian club that meets on campus and fighting, or at least resisting, the homosexual agenda would be supported.

63 posted on 02/14/2004 8:43:54 PM PST by alexandria
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To: alexandria
You should check out the abidingtruth.com or defendthefamily.com websites linked to up the thread. Lively has a lot of stuff for schools - arguments for the natural family and against homosexuality that are secular based especially for schools, "free speech" clubs that schools can start - he has materials and so on.

I am well aware that CA has mandated pro-homosexual teaching K-12 since 2001. It is really snuck in so that the community often doesn't know what's going on. The homo-promoter definitely use deceit as one of their weapons.

I'm glad that there are still some decent, sane teachers in the system. What county are you in? Not Humboldt, are you? (shudder)
64 posted on 02/14/2004 8:59:01 PM PST by little jeremiah (everyone is entitled to their opinion, but everyone isn't entitled to be right.)
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To: alexandria
Here's a link to a webpage from abidingtruth.com/defendthefamily.com called "Rescue the Schools" that might have relevant information for you:

http://www.defendthefamily.com/pflc/rescue.php
65 posted on 02/14/2004 9:05:36 PM PST by little jeremiah (everyone is entitled to their opinion, but everyone isn't entitled to be right.)
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To: little jeremiah
LOL! No not Humboldt. Merced county. It is in central CA about an hour and forty five minutes south of Sacramento.
66 posted on 02/14/2004 10:56:29 PM PST by alexandria
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To: alexandria
I know Merced, I lived in and about Sac for years. Way, way too hot in the summer! What to speak of the air quality.

I prefer mountains! I live way rural, not far from the CA/OR border.
67 posted on 02/14/2004 11:13:27 PM PST by little jeremiah (everyone is entitled to their opinion, but everyone isn't entitled to be right.)
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To: alexandria
Here's an idea connected with schools, and a link to a couple of posts you should read:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1078251/posts?page=102#102
(read comments #101 and 102)

Just got another idea for my Countering Homo-activism Thread - it could work on a mass scale or one by one.

Parents who realize what schools are doing to their kids do a public removal of said kid. If it was coordinated to happen on the same day or week - like the homosexual activists have co-opted Valentine's Day, turning it into "Freedom to Marry" day (or week, or whatever it is) - it could be called "Save our Kids from Homosexuality" or something. Imagine if thousands of parents show up as schools all over America, (with media alerted beforehand) and take their kids out of school. Alternatives? Homeschool charter schools, private schools.

Religious schools or private schools should advertise specifically stating something like this: "Send your kid to ......School and you won't be afraid he or she will come home and tell you he/she is "gay". Or less in-your-face advertising, or people can pay for billboards that say: "Protect your child from the homosexual agenda. Send them to the private school of your choice or homeschool".

Clearly one of the main battle fronts of the homosexual activists is to totally control the next generation.

Or teachers who are opposed to homosexual indoctrination of the students could refuse to allow it to be taught, but I'm sure that would jeopardize some peoples' jobs. But if right minded teachers stand up for the truth about homosexuality, it could help turn this thing around.

68 posted on 02/15/2004 1:32:33 PM PST by little jeremiah (everyone is entitled to their opinion, but everyone isn't entitled to be right.)
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To: little jeremiah
Clearly one of the main battle fronts of the homosexual activists is to totally control the next generation.

Bump.

69 posted on 02/15/2004 2:12:07 PM PST by tuesday afternoon
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To: little jeremiah
bttt
70 posted on 02/15/2004 2:49:08 PM PST by jla
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To: little jeremiah
>Yet, I am reminded of people - conservatives, who don't want
>to vote for Bush because he isn't conservative enough. A vote
>for a third party candidate, or sitting out the election,
>only harms the conservative cause, increasing the possibility
>of Kerry or which jackass the Democraps pick, will win. At
>least with Bush, the behemoth may start turning around.

Bush supports civil unions for homosexuals and lesbians. In what way is that turning anything around? If we pass a constitutional amendment which defines marraige as being reserved for a man and a woman, and turn around and give away the same benefits to the gay lobby under the name of "civil unions" all we've done is play a semantic game.

No gay marriage.
No civil unions.

Why our beloved governator doesn't have the national guard out in the streets putting a stop to the lawlessness in San Francisco, I don't know. And no, that's not too harsh a reaction. That's the reaction you'd have if suddenly one day a university president broke the law and wouldn't admit black students...
71 posted on 02/15/2004 3:22:57 PM PST by applemac_g4
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To: applemac_g4
Can you cite Bush's statement that he supports civil unions? From what I've read, he's kind of skirted the issue. But what with all the ruckus the "gay" activists and their minions are creating, Bush better clarify his position, and I hope to God he stand against civil unions as well as "gay" marriage.

It will be interesting to see what happens on Tuesday, when the courts are open. Have you read or heard that Schwartzeneger has said anything - anything at all?

I thank divine providence that I don't live in SF. Throughout the last umpteen years, I've put in my time in the bay area, but left more than a decade ago, swearing never to return.

But, if someone organizes any big ralleys or protests about this crap, I think I'll drive down and freep!
72 posted on 02/15/2004 3:38:28 PM PST by little jeremiah (everyone is entitled to their opinion, but everyone isn't entitled to be right.)
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To: little jeremiah
Let's hear some more ideas.

Thousands Registered Under France's PACS Law
Friday, January 21st 2000

PARIS -- Since the passage of the Civil Solidarity Pact law in France last October, more than 6,000 same- and opposite-sex couples have registered their unions with the state, the Justice Ministry announced Thursday.

Registrants under the new law, known by its French acronym PACS, are able to enjoy many of the same rights and responsibilities previously restricted only to married couples.

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PACS provisions include allowing registered couples to file joint tax returns, collect pension, inheritance and other government-sponsored benefits, and reduce the waiting period for the issuance of foreign residency permits to partners of French nationals from five years to two.

The national debate over PACS legislation raged in France for the better part of two years. Tens of thousands of conservatives marched through the streets last year to denounce the proposed legislation. Opponents, joined by the Roman Catholic Church, issued dire warnings that the legislation would undermine family values and even bring about the end of French civilization.

The Socialists ultimately beat back Conservative attempts to derail the bill and passed PACS reform on October 13, 1999, by a vote of 315 to 249. Gay civil rights groups in France remain angry that the current bill does nothing to ease adoption restrictions and that a waiting period of three years was necessary before gay couples could file joint tax and claim other benefits.

Similar legislation already exists in several European countries, including Iceland, Belgium and Sweden. Laws in Denmark and the Netherlands are even more liberal. Germany is expected to begin debate on a national domestic partnership law early next year.

-- C. Barillas, Editor




73 posted on 02/15/2004 4:30:34 PM PST by NYer (Ad Jesum per Mariam)
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To: NYer
Apparently tens of thousands of conservatives marching through the streets didn't help. But I sure would love to see tens of thousands of conservatives marching through the streets HERE to protest "gay" marriage! Maybe on the same day as the revolting "Gay Prides".

I am NOT an organizer, live in a tiny rural community, but if anyone does organize any such protests/rallies, PLEASE publicize them well. I will drive anywhere north of mid-CA to attend, and I would bet that a lot of Freepers would as well.
74 posted on 02/15/2004 5:55:17 PM PST by little jeremiah (everyone is entitled to their opinion, but everyone isn't entitled to be right.)
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To: little jeremiah
You're obsessed with homosexuals, aren't you?
75 posted on 02/15/2004 6:32:25 PM PST by Amelia (Pop-culture impaired)
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To: Amelia
If you think that "gay" marriage being forced on an unwilling population is fine, if you think that homosexual indoctrination in schools across the country is fine, then what are you on this thread for?

Your comment is like asking someone who is being beaten up, are they obsessed with being beaten up? Let's say I am paying attention. Are you?
76 posted on 02/15/2004 7:09:00 PM PST by little jeremiah (everyone is entitled to their opinion, but everyone isn't entitled to be right.)
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To: little jeremiah
then what are you on this thread for?

Simple, I didn't realize it was a vanity when I clicked on it.

77 posted on 02/15/2004 7:15:00 PM PST by Amelia (Pop-culture impaired)
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To: Amelia
The point isn't that it is a vanity, but the purpose of the thread is to discuss things that can be done to roll back the "gay" agenda. If their agenda doesn't bother you, there's thousands of other threads.
78 posted on 02/15/2004 7:17:30 PM PST by little jeremiah (everyone is entitled to their opinion, but everyone isn't entitled to be right.)
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To: All
Now that the clown fool thug "mayor" of SF and his co-criminals have decided to play rough, I think we need to follow suit. Enough Mr. Nice Guy. Being Mr. Nice Guy has gotten us to where we are at.

Obviously I'm not promoting violence or law breaking. But civil disobedience maybe, in areas of the country where there are "non-discrimination" laws. What I'm really thinking of is stuff like this:

1. Say someone works as a desk clerk at a hotel. Two homosexuals want to reserve a "honeymoon suite". Say NO! They are reservered for newly married couples (if that is the hotel policy.) Refuse to take part in their sick fantasy.

2. Same thing if someone works in a wedding chapel type place, or caters weddings. Just refuse to cater to "gay" marriage.

3. Any opportunity that comes your way - don't cave in the pro-"gay" status quo. Take risks. Put bumper stickers on your car. If you live in CA (or anywhere else) and a couple of homosexuals present you with a bogus "marriage license" and want some special benefit or recognition, refuse it. Say, "Oh, that's not legal. I can't honor that. Marriage means a man and a woman."

And I am WAITING for announcements of rallies, protests, etc. I will drive up to 500 miles to attend one. If anyone hears of any such plans, put the news up on this thread (and anywhere else you want too).
79 posted on 02/16/2004 8:26:19 PM PST by little jeremiah (everyone is entitled to their opinion, but everyone isn't entitled to be right.)
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To: little jeremiah
I'm not much on coming up with bumper sticker ideas but here's some ideas:

Arn't you glad shame went out the window and humanity followed.

WWJD? Forgive Repentant Homosexuals!

In America you have the right to be an abomination AND be proud of it.

As if AIDS wasn't enough

Soddom and Ghomerica

There's a reason why there arn't any same sex electrical plugs too!

That's about all I have. There is one other way that America can learn about why the homosexual agenda is bad. Unfortunately soddom and ghommorah's fate isn't very PC or Gay friendly but if it happens it will sure nip that problem in the bud. Best thing I can do is pray and vote for George W. Bush. I'll keep checking back and let you know if I come up with any other ideas.
80 posted on 02/16/2004 11:55:29 PM PST by AppauledAtAppeasementConservat (An educated fool, in the end, is still a fool.)
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To: AppauledAtAppeasementConservat
Thanks for your ideas - now all we need is a printing place that will print them!

If you read up the thread, I mentioned a friend who was sued at his city work place. He had a bumper sticker that said "STOP AIDS:" and a cicle with a line through two stick figure men performing < ahem > an unnatural act. Not gross or anything, it was just clear what was being prohibited. I thought it was pretty good.

One time when I lived in OR I had a bumper sticker - just Yes on Measure whatever it was to stop promoting homosexuality in schools, and homosexuals came over to my house to yell and harrass me and my spousal unit. At 10PM no less!

IMHO, we conservatives had better start a good offense (it's the best defense) or Sodom and Gomorrah will be happening one way or another.
81 posted on 02/17/2004 12:04:04 AM PST by little jeremiah (everyone is entitled to their opinion, but everyone isn't entitled to be right.)
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To: little jeremiah
"One time when I lived in OR I had a bumper sticker - just Yes on Measure whatever it was to stop promoting homosexuality in schools, and homosexuals came over to my house to yell and harrass me and my spousal unit. At 10PM no less!"

What happened? Did you call the police?
82 posted on 02/17/2004 7:55:38 AM PST by AppauledAtAppeasementConservat (An educated fool, in the end, is still a fool.)
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To: little jeremiah
BTTT
83 posted on 02/17/2004 10:32:04 AM PST by EdReform (Support Free Republic - All donations are greatly appreciated. Thank you for your support!)
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To: mvonfr
You are correct, the fact that they spread HIV and have astronomical health bills why in the world would a state like Virginia that I thought was a conservative republican state just pass a bill that allows the gay "partner" to purchase health insurance for the other partner??

This is getting sicker by the minute. (literally)

84 posted on 02/17/2004 2:59:03 PM PST by stopem
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To: AppauledAtAppeasementConservat
Be careful they are becoming extremely militant and dangerous, SERIOUSLY! Remember these people are mentally ill.

85 posted on 02/17/2004 3:02:43 PM PST by stopem
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To: AppauledAtAppeasementConservat
No, we just argued with them and then I handed them a couple page xerox copied info-page I had stapled together to hand out at a university homo-fest, detailing sordid but true information about the homosexual lifestyle. That REALLY freaked them out! They were the female variety, so they were extra awful.

Spousal unit and self don't "look" conservative at all (longhair, the one that should have a beard has one, sometimes we even wear tie-dye!)- so they had automatically thought we were leftist-bots, but man, were they surprised!!

Heheh.

86 posted on 02/17/2004 7:36:32 PM PST by little jeremiah (everyone is entitled to their opinion, but everyone isn't entitled to be right.)
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To: Askel5
Having a little trouble with the definition of "Abomination", are you?

87 posted on 02/17/2004 7:38:33 PM PST by VxH (This species has amused itself to death.)
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To: VxH
=== Having a little trouble with the definition of "Abomination", are you?

Not at all. Without a doubt, homosexuality is an abomination in God's eyes. And likely because -- as with manmade contraception, serial polygamy, single parenthood -- it goes against what He has ordained for humans on this earth.

But it's for God to condemn homosexuals, not us. Where our own "rights" have rendered us morally and patently the equivalent of homosexuals where marriage -- the right to have or NOT to have children -- is concerned, we just have no business pretending we're in a position to point fingers, that's all.

A routing of the Homosexual Agenda is only rightfully begun by reclaiming our full slate of obligations and responsibilities as heterosexuals -- particularly where some correctly presume the sacrament of marriage is concerned.

Those who've already shut God out of the equation are especially ill-suited to proclaiming they are somehow distinct from or blessed by God in a way that homosexuals seeking lifetime monogamous relations are not.





88 posted on 02/17/2004 8:26:28 PM PST by Askel5
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To: little jeremiah
One of the most important rules in effectively countering the gay agenda is to avoid coming off as the Fred Phelps and other hate mongers.

Protesting at funerals of AIDS victims by claiming they deserve it, or carrying "God hates fags" signs will do more to promote the gay agenda than gays could ever do themselves.

Unless you can present a level-headed and compassionate attitude while showing the dangers of the gay agenda, your efforts are going to backfire.

89 posted on 02/17/2004 8:36:08 PM PST by Jorge
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To: little jeremiah
What would Christ do?
90 posted on 02/17/2004 8:37:22 PM PST by Jeff Gordon (arabed - verb: lower in esteem; hurt the pride of [syn: mortify, chagrin, humble, abase, humiliate])
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To: little jeremiah
Well good to hear that it wasn't anything more than a verbal exchange. You'd do better I think to simply print a list of what teachers are foistering their ideals on our children so parents can get our children removed from those classes. That would go along way at preventing further indoctrination and possible molestation. Are there any lists for public schools or colleges to that effect. I personally know of a friend of mine that her child is coming how daily talking about how ok it is to be gay. If I find out any info on what teacher or group is targeting these children I will be glad to pass it on to whomever may wish to publish it. Any legal organizations you know of that are willing to investigate these matters?
91 posted on 02/17/2004 9:00:49 PM PST by AppauledAtAppeasementConservat (An educated fool, in the end, is still a fool.)
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To: Jorge
Are you referring to my messages here, or my story of ten years ago? As far as I am concerned, Phelps is a crazy wicked man. I personally have no hatred for homosexuals. But I am angry at their attempt to subert and pervert our country (and other countries) to the detriment of everyone, including themselves. They are attacking, and being Mr. Nice Guy has gotten us where we are today.

Telling the truth is what is needed. Dancing the minuet won't do any good.

I also consider protesting at funerals of AIDS sufferers not only stupid, but cruel. But look - there's a war on. Daily, kids are being indoctrinated and recruited in schools. They're using big guns, and fighting back with diplomacy is like waving a white flag.
92 posted on 02/17/2004 10:16:58 PM PST by little jeremiah (everyone is entitled to their opinion, but everyone isn't entitled to be right.)
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To: Jeff Gordon
Well, he beat the money changers at the Temple with a rope, IIRC.

He told the adulteress - who was repentent - to go and sin no more.

He also condemned those who cause harm to children, remember? Better they have a millstone tied around their necks.
93 posted on 02/17/2004 10:20:28 PM PST by little jeremiah (everyone is entitled to their opinion, but everyone isn't entitled to be right.)
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To: AppauledAtAppeasementConservat
See post #65 above. There's a link to abidingtruth.com - it has a sister site defendthefamily.com. There are tons of materials especially for schools, parents and kids. The organization has some kind of outreach program for high school kids, and programs they can attend. Please check out that link, and read up. There's at least a couple of books about how to protect children from being "recruited" into homosexuality, and some short booklets - written very clearly, simply so that any kid can understand - about why homosexuality is wrong, unnatural and unhealthy.

They have tremendous resources, and are now one of the two legal groups trying to fight the "gay" marriage scene in SF. In fact, tomorrow I'll type up a letter I just got from them about that, and either post it here or start a new thread.
94 posted on 02/17/2004 10:26:12 PM PST by little jeremiah (everyone is entitled to their opinion, but everyone isn't entitled to be right.)
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To: AppauledAtAppeasementConservat
Go to the link on post #68. That's a start, and later tonight or tomorrow I'll put up some more links to what the "gay" agenda is currently doing in schools. Or you can try a FR search using words like homosexuals in schools, or gay agenda and schools, or something. I'm really a computer dunce, it's hit or miss with me. But there have been a lot of articles about this topic lately. Try a search using "fistgate" - that'll curl your hair.

It's no joke. They are after kids, and they are succeeding. And if we do nothing, we're letting them.
95 posted on 02/17/2004 10:33:38 PM PST by little jeremiah (everyone is entitled to their opinion, but everyone isn't entitled to be right.)
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To: AppauledAtAppeasementConservat
Here's a link to some horrible stuff that goes on every year in Massachusetts:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1079750/posts

Another point to consider is that even if parents take their kid out of the homosexual indoctrination classes, the kid is then surrounded by their peers who have been so influenced. Leaving kids in public school even with parental slips opting them out is still very dangerous.
96 posted on 02/17/2004 10:55:47 PM PST by little jeremiah (everyone is entitled to their opinion, but everyone isn't entitled to be right.)
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To: little jeremiah
Better they have a millstone tied around their necks (and to be drowned in the depths of the sea).

Matthew 18

I do remember that passage. The crime was not exactly "harming" a child in all aspects of possible "harm" but was limited to causing a child to sin.

I always had trouble reconciling that command with the command of forgiving your brother seventy seven times. That and the following parable that tells us that unless we forgive those who trespass upon us, God will not forgive us our trespasses.

97 posted on 02/18/2004 4:30:28 AM PST by Jeff Gordon (arabed - verb: lower in esteem; hurt the pride of [syn: mortify, chagrin, humble, abase, humiliate])
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To: Jeff Gordon
There's a huge difference between forgicing those who harm ME, for instance, and forgiving those who harm someone ELSE? How can I fogive thsoe who harm someone else? That's the job of someone ELSE. Often people get the whole concept of forgiveness confused. Dr. Laura talked about it (either on the radio or in a book, can't remember). But we cannot possibly forgive someone who has harmed someone else. It's downright arrrogant, and actually kind of insults the someone else. Say someone punches you in the face, and a total stranger rushes up to the perp (who isn't even sorry, by the way) and says to him, "I forgive you, I forgive you".

See the absrudity of that?

The other problem is that when a person does evil - and I am not tlaking about a privately practicing homosexual, who is not a predator, not a liberal, doesn't endorse what is going on, and doens't molest young people or give others AIDS - and this homosexual continues to do these things, isn't sorry, isn't about to stop - it's actually psychotic to forgive this person. FIrst of all, you'd have to keep forgiving him over and over, since he is continuing to do evil over and over. Second of all, this shallow forgiveness doesn't do him any good.

What will do him good is condemning what he does, in no uncertain terms. While maintaining an attitude of care about this person. I can love someone, while being angry at WHAT THEY DO. If I forgive someone who is advocating molesting and indoctrinating young people, this is not love, it is stupidity. And I will be contributing to the continuing evil that is done, with my (in essence) stamp of approval.

98 posted on 02/18/2004 6:51:51 AM PST by little jeremiah (everyone is entitled to their opinion, but everyone isn't entitled to be right.)
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To: Askel5
>> in a way that homosexuals seeking lifetime monogamous relations are not.


Clever rationalization.

No Sale.

99 posted on 02/18/2004 8:44:26 AM PST by VxH (This species has amused itself to death.)
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To: Jeff Gordon
I replied to you without editing, my laptop was about to go into hibernation (battery is dead), I didn't have time to fix the crazy spelling, and I didn't want to lose what I'd written. SORRY!
100 posted on 02/18/2004 10:59:39 AM PST by little jeremiah (everyone is entitled to their opinion, but everyone isn't entitled to be right.)
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