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To: little jeremiah
=== Personal piety will get us to where we are now.

I'm getting the impression -- quite strongly -- that "personal piety" is a tack we've yet to use.

Looks like most of the heteros have been quite amenable to the "education" effort of the Government ... particularly where birth control, artificial reproduction and the deconstruction of marriage as an obligation is concerned.

Where we ourselves have adopted the homosexual model of Planned children, non-procreational sex and marriage as a sex-based, mutually beneficial economic relationship that may be dissolved if and when either partner no longer finds the marriage serves their "right to be happy" ... we have no basis on which to argue that homosexual marriage is intrinsically different from Artificially grounded hetero marriage.

That's precisely my point.

And I couldn't disagree with you more that personal piety won't get us anywhere or landed us where we are now.

You'll remember the original reason the Sola Scriptura Contra-Ception guy caught my eye is his reminder that you forgot to mention Prayer as the most valuable, perhaps, tool of spiritual warfare.

For that's what this is all about, after all.
52 posted on 02/13/2004 1:16:05 PM PST by Askel5
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To: Askel5
I appreciate your reasoned reply. I didn't "forget" to add prayer, you must have noticed my final conclusion was that only a spiritual awakening will help this country. Obviously that includes prayer.

But one of my points is that as a supposedly Christian country, people have allowed the homosexuals AND sexual libertines of all stripes to change the entire moral standards in a few generations. By personal piety I mean sitting in church or at home and maybe following scriptural teachings and rules (hopefully) but letting everyone else go to hell.

My point is that being pious oneself at this point is not enough. The other side is more aggressive, more determined, and not only wants to win, but wants us to be totally defeated.

Just like the homosexuals (and other libertines) were not content to sit at home and be perverts, they have done everything they can to change US. So why will sitting at home being pious work? It won't.

Also, you mention about "we ourselves" accepting the Planned Parenthood model of marriage. I never have, and many never have. Of course, the majority have. And why? Propaganda. If people only hear and read and are taught lies, they will believe lies.

So it's time to get the truth out there.
53 posted on 02/13/2004 11:13:03 PM PST by little jeremiah (everyone is entitled to their opinion, but everyone isn't entitled to be right.)
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