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Bush blocks his own way while giving Kerry a free pass [Sad but true]
Chicago Sun-Times ^ | February 12, 2004 | BY ROBERT NOVAK

Posted on 02/12/2004 4:18:12 AM PST by johnny7

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To: Consort
I don't know -- I can't assess the question objectively.

For the life of me, I can't envision how anyone who considers themselves in any context that includes the word conservative, could bring themselves to vote for Kerry.

To me, suicide is a preferable option.

Third party perhaps, or not vote at all -- but an outright vote for Kerry -- I'm aghast at the very idea.

In fact, I don't see how anyone who considers themselves to be one of those enigmatic "moderates" could cast a vote for Kerry.

21 posted on 02/12/2004 5:17:02 AM PST by skip2myloo
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To: skip2myloo
¿Third party perhaps, or not vote at all...?

There are several ways that voters can help to elect Kerry: 1) They can vote for him, 2) They can stay home and sit out the election (not vote at all), 3) Vote for a Third Party Candidate,.... Can you think of any other ways?

22 posted on 02/12/2004 5:24:09 AM PST by Consort
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To: johnny7
Bush suffers from the ivory tower syndrome common to most elites. He is aloof, and deaf, to those outside his protective circle. Karl Rove is his Rasputin.
23 posted on 02/12/2004 5:24:37 AM PST by MissAmericanPie
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To: skip2myloo
I'm no fan of Novak -- but, let's stay focused on the big picture here. Noonan has said much the same things about SOTU and MTP.

Noonan can be good, but nobody is right all the time.

It is very EARLY in the process.

Anyone who is really familiar with Bush's record as a campaigner, knows he holds his fire very cleverly.

If Bush had gone after Dean, when it looked like a lock for Dean, Bush would look foolish now. Right now the Dems are playing spaghetti politics. Throw it up in the air and see what sticks. Not much of it is sticking. And Bush is getting the chance to refute most of the jabs early in the process, before KERRY has really been vetted. :)

Bush has plenty of time to defend his record and go after the Dem. nominee. My money is on Bush and Rove. They find a way to win, and events have a way of working out for Bush.

24 posted on 02/12/2004 5:26:10 AM PST by veronica ("America will never seek a permission slip to defend the security of our people." GW Bush 1-20-04)
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To: MissAmericanPie
Bush suffers from the ivory tower syndrome common to most elites. He is aloof, and deaf, to those outside his protective circle. Karl Rove is his Rasputin.

Was that written in jest? There is nothing "ivory tower" about Bush. He's very down-to-earth, and he and Rove have always had a solid strategy for getting Bush elected, plus Rove can also adjust to changing events.

Your post is not different that old Dem rap on Bush that he a vapid puppet whose strings are pulled by others. A shallow and tired rap on Bush, who didn't get where he is by being a sieve.

Why some Conservatives are so insecure that they jump on the bash-Bush bandwagon is a mystery to me.

25 posted on 02/12/2004 5:31:13 AM PST by veronica ("America will never seek a permission slip to defend the security of our people." GW Bush 1-20-04)
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To: Puppage
Gay marriage?! How did you read that into what I said? Why are you so offended? I touch a nerve? AND DON'T CALL ME CHIEF!
26 posted on 02/12/2004 5:35:12 AM PST by johnny7 (“C'mon! You sons 'o bitches wanna live forever!?”)
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To: johnny7
Gay marriage?! How did you read that into what I said?

I threw that in there because your reply to my post lead me to believe that you felt my opinion on what would tip the scale in 04, had no validity. So consequently I threw a few more issues out there to determine what YOU thought would be the big issue. THAT'S why it was said. Okay, ace?

27 posted on 02/12/2004 5:45:33 AM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I will defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: Consort
I went over and read her column.I did not write her but I thought she was too critical.Words are her life's work and people who are not articulate enough will drive her nuts.

I thought she had good advice on preparing the message for the campaign.

I thought her "fear" accusation against the writers who wrote in and disagreed with her assessment of the Russert interview was a bit harsh,too.

We've had dem talking points and dem interviews 24/7 during the primary season .We want our conservatives to lay off joining in the chorus of beating up on the President while the dems and media is doing it full time,perhaps.

I don't suggest ,however, the President should be spared from constructive criticism.
28 posted on 02/12/2004 5:46:33 AM PST by MEG33 (BUSH/CHENEY '04...for the sake of our nation)
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To: MEG33
Oops!dems and media are doing it full time.
29 posted on 02/12/2004 5:50:09 AM PST by MEG33 (BUSH/CHENEY '04...for the sake of our nation)
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To: johnny7
Novak is full of it. I'm tired of his constant curmudgeonly carping. Shouldn't he be testifying somewhere regarding his leaking of classified info? I still think that he intended to harm this administration.

If the sky is falling around Bush, why is the current worst-case scenario 50 percent approval and a tie w/Kerry? If Bush has been so horrible and this is the worst the polls can reflect, I say he's in pretty good shape.
30 posted on 02/12/2004 5:51:13 AM PST by over3Owithabrain
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To: Puppage
I'm not 'ace' either. You are assuming things I did not say. You have a short fuse and serious comprehension deficiencies.
31 posted on 02/12/2004 6:00:33 AM PST by johnny7 (“C'mon! You sons 'o bitches wanna live forever!?”)
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To: johnny7
Here's a question... do you think American voters have become more or less rational since 1992?

Good question. Emotion certainly overrode rational thought in '92 and '96. Hopefully 9-11 caused many to realize that our very survival is riding on our choice in leaders now, and rationality will trump emotion in '04.

32 posted on 02/12/2004 6:09:13 AM PST by wayoverontheright
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To: johnny7
You are assuming things I did not say

I know you didn't SAY them. I told you WHY I wrote them, geez do understand anything I've written? Allow me to try again,maybe you'll understand....

I threw that in there because your reply to my post lead me to believe that you felt my opinion on what would tip the scale in 04, had no validity. So consequently I threw a few more issues out there to determine what YOU thought would be the big issue. THAT'S why it was said.

Now, just WHERE did I write that you mentioned those "things", hmm?

I am through trying to explain the obvious to you. You need some school'n up,Junior.

33 posted on 02/12/2004 6:18:27 AM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I will defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: veronica
I'm not suggesting Bush attack Kerry, I'm suggesting rather than responding to every idiotic Democrat criticism, he should keep his mouth shut, and quit providing every old NG record he can dig out of an old filing cabinet -- all that does is fuel the debate.

Just to use that as an example, now the Dems are claiming the records we forged and cleaned up to make him electable in Texas.

By responding to every one of these "have you stopped beating your wife" questions -- he is just dragging out and legitimizing the debate.

Where in my post did you read that I suggest he attack Kerry, or Dean for that matter ??

34 posted on 02/12/2004 6:24:28 AM PST by skip2myloo
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To: johnny7
I think half the people here at FR think half the country are FReepers.
35 posted on 02/12/2004 6:24:34 AM PST by GraniteStateConservative ("You can dip a pecan in gold, but it's still a pecan"-- Deep Thoughts by JC Watts)
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To: skip2myloo; veronica
Laura Ingraham thought it wasn't a great job by Bush, either.
36 posted on 02/12/2004 6:25:52 AM PST by GraniteStateConservative ("You can dip a pecan in gold, but it's still a pecan"-- Deep Thoughts by JC Watts)
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To: Consort
In '92, voters got mad at Bush and shot themselves in the foot (screwing things up for the rest of us in the process) and some of those fools are talking about doing it again this year.

No, in 1992 Bush 41 ran a lousy campaign and took key constituencies for granted, and lost both them and the election.

Republicans and Bush 43 partisans who continue to give Bush 41 a pass have not learned History, and risk repeating it.


37 posted on 02/12/2004 6:29:22 AM PST by Sabertooth (Sharpen your Long Knives lately?)
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To: MissAmericanPie
Saddam had the same problem as David Kay tells it.
38 posted on 02/12/2004 6:29:28 AM PST by GraniteStateConservative ("You can dip a pecan in gold, but it's still a pecan"-- Deep Thoughts by JC Watts)
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To: johnny7
The president did not lash back by exposing Kerry's unsavory record in the antiwar movement's extreme wing following his heroic service in Vietnam.

Of all the idiotic complaints. What a disaster that would have been. Of course the president didn't "lash back" and bring up Kerry's unsavory record then.

It's coming out now, though.

39 posted on 02/12/2004 6:30:02 AM PST by cyncooper
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To: Consort
There are several ways that voters can help to elect Kerry:

Actually it would be more accurate to say "there are several ways the GOP can help elect Kerry"....They're on that path right now.

40 posted on 02/12/2004 6:30:30 AM PST by lewislynn
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