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San Francisco Officials Marry Gay Couple
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Posted on 02/12/2004 12:16:31 PM PST by BurbankKarl

February 12, 2004, 2:57 PM EST

SAN FRANCISCO -- In a political and legal challenge to California law, city authorities officiated at the marriage of a lesbian couple Thursday and said they will issue more gay marriage licenses.

The act of civil disobedience was coordinated by Mayor Gavin Newsom and top city officials and was intended to beat a conservative group to the punch.

The group, Campaign for California Families, had planned to go to court on Friday to get an injunction preventing the city from issuing marriage licenses to gay couples.

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This is the first one! A couple tried to get married in Beverly Hills today and is suing.
1 posted on 02/12/2004 12:16:32 PM PST by BurbankKarl
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To: BurbankKarl
The group, Campaign for California Families, had planned to go to court on Friday to get an injunction preventing the city from issuing marriage licenses to gay couples.

That's what they get for telegraphing their moves.

2 posted on 02/12/2004 12:18:08 PM PST by grobdriver
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To: BurbankKarl
Me thinks Arnold is about to terminate them
3 posted on 02/12/2004 12:18:09 PM PST by sopanmu
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To: BurbankKarl
Two Gay Couples Denied Marriage Licenses In Beverly Hills
National Lawyer Says She Will File Suit

POSTED: 11:10 AM PST February 12, 2004
UPDATED: 11:32 AM PST February 12, 2004

LOS ANGELES -- Two gay couples were denied marriage licenses Thursday in Beverly Hills, leading a local attorney to announce she will sue to challenge the ban on gay marriages in California.

Feb. 12 is recognized by gay-advocacy groups as National Freedom to Marry Day, and several groups encouraged gay couples nationwide to go to courthouses and apply for marriage licenses today.

The date was chosen because of its proximity to Lincoln's Birthday and Valentine's Day, which "links equality and love," said the Rev. Troy D. Perry, one of the people taking part in Thursday's action at the Beverly Hills Courthouse.

Perry, the founder of the Metropolitan Community Churches, is the first openly gay member of the Los Angeles Human Rights Commission and a past delegate to the White House Conference on Hate Crimes.

Perry said he and his partner Phillip Ray DeBlieck had a "Holy Union Ceremony" in the United States, and said they were legally married in Canada last July.

But Perry and DeBlieck -- along with lesbian rights activist Robin Tyler and her partner, Diane Olson, granddaughter of former California Democratic Gov. Culbert Levy Olson -- were denied marriage licenses Thursday in Beverly Hills.

Instead, officials gave them fliers detailing California's same-sex marriage ban.

"We're not going to the back of the bus. We're not not getting on the bus, we're not not sitting at the lunch counter, we're just not taking civil union, domestic partnership, we're just not taking it anymore," Tyler said.

Attorney Gloria Allred said she will sue to challenge the gay marriage ban, adding that she plans on pursuing the case all the way to the California Supreme Court.

"It's time to make a legal challenge," she said. "And so we will be filing the lawsuit. There is no precedent. There are no appellate cases in California on this issue, and so we think it's long overdue and we're going to fight that fight now."

Perry said he was disappointed by Thursday's action.

"The only difference in our relationship between everybody else's in California is our sex," he said. "It's who we are. We pay taxes for everybody else's kids to go to school, which we don't mind, but we want equal treatment."

Although California does not recognize same-sex marriages, a law enacted by former Gov. Gray Davis gives domestic partners most of the legal rights and responsibilities of married couples.

Meanwhile, Massachusetts lawmakers are meeting Thursday to discuss an amendment to the state constitution that would nullify the state high court's decision last week allowing gays and lesbians to wed.
4 posted on 02/12/2004 12:18:34 PM PST by BurbankKarl
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To: BurbankKarl

5 posted on 02/12/2004 12:20:31 PM PST by Zavien Doombringer (If a Democrat falls from office and nobody is around will they make a sound?)
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To: BurbankKarl
Paging Merle Haggard.....

Are we rollin' down hill, like a snowball headed for Hell?....

6 posted on 02/12/2004 12:20:44 PM PST by andy58-in-nh
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To: BurbankKarl
They can play whatever charades they like (such as pretending that a rectum is a sex organ), but they're not married unless the marriage is recognized by the State.
7 posted on 02/12/2004 12:21:12 PM PST by Agnes Heep
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To: BurbankKarl
This isn't really about marriage. The left's prime directive is to destroy American institutions.
8 posted on 02/12/2004 12:21:51 PM PST by onedoug
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To: BurbankKarl
Not only are the sexually dysfunctional fascists going around the will of the people, but now they're even skipping over the laws. America is being FORCED by the sexually insane to obey their demented will. They're sick, and a major danger to society. The Doctors in the past were right. They belong in the mental institutions. Society should be protected
9 posted on 02/12/2004 12:21:53 PM PST by concerned about politics ( Liberals are still stuck at the bottom of Maslow's Hierarchy)
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To: BurbankKarl
Attorney Gloria Allred said she will sue to challenge the gay marriage ban, adding that she plans on pursuing the case all the way to the California Supreme Court.
10 posted on 02/12/2004 12:22:13 PM PST by BurbankKarl
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To: BurbankKarl
President Bush has got to make an amendment banning gay marriage a central focus of the campaign. He's got to get out there with House and Senate candidates, Republican or Democrat, who oppose gay marriage and Congress has to get on this ASAP.
11 posted on 02/12/2004 12:23:57 PM PST by WinOne4TheGipper (Formerly will1776.)
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To: BurbankKarl
The act of civil disobedience was coordinated by Mayor Gavin Newsom and top city officials

When elected officials who swear to up hold the law mock it instead, why should any of us follow the law?

12 posted on 02/12/2004 12:24:00 PM PST by 2banana
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In some countries, such as northern European nations, gay marriage is legal. Nevertheless, gay couples who are married outside the US are not recognized as married couples when they return to the US.

Since American states are free to disregard gay marriages in Sweden, while accepting hetero marriages in Sweden, why can't the states have the same policy toward Massachusetts?

If the states pick and choose which marriages are considered legal in their jurisdiction when it comes to foreign marriages, why are the states not free to do the same about marriages in other states?

13 posted on 02/12/2004 12:24:10 PM PST by george wythe
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To: BurbankKarl
We are doing good in California this week....first the death penalty is overturned...all those on death row will now get an appeal "with new testing procedures" applied to old evidence...

And now marriage has been tossed out the window.
14 posted on 02/12/2004 12:25:02 PM PST by BurbankKarl
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To: BurbankKarl; Dataman

San Francisco Officials Marry Gay Couple

No, they don't, any more than I can put hair back on my head by renaming myself Shaggy.

Dan

15 posted on 02/12/2004 12:25:45 PM PST by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: xzins
They are pressing hard to break down the door....
16 posted on 02/12/2004 12:25:55 PM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: BurbankKarl
California Supreme Court.

The most overturned court in the nation. Let's hope this one is overturned.
This is not good for America. We're a free people, not a communist dictatorship. Americans are losing their free will to conscience. We're being forced into a world of perversion and vileness, and being FORCED to accept it as normal.
It isn't right.

17 posted on 02/12/2004 12:26:58 PM PST by concerned about politics ( Liberals are still stuck at the bottom of Maslow's Hierarchy)
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To: BurbankKarl
I hate being a Californian sometimes... these people run roughshod over our referendums.
18 posted on 02/12/2004 12:27:04 PM PST by wadeintothem
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To: george wythe
A future liberal Supreme Court (or maybe this one, depending on Kennedy or O'Connor) could force this on the other states by way of the Full Faith and Credit Clause.
19 posted on 02/12/2004 12:28:50 PM PST by WinOne4TheGipper (Formerly will1776.)
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To: WinOne4TheGipper
I can just hear Michael Savage...he will be in rare form today!
20 posted on 02/12/2004 12:32:40 PM PST by BurbankKarl
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To: WinOne4TheGipper
If homosexuals can marry, so can NAMBLA members. Instead of hunting down young boys, they will be able to legally adopt their sexual boy toys.
God help the poor boys who will end up being tortured and sexually abused by these vile creatures.
We wouldn't be able to save the kids from their hell because of the Texas Sodomy law..
21 posted on 02/12/2004 12:33:45 PM PST by concerned about politics ( Liberals are still stuck at the bottom of Maslow's Hierarchy)
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To: BurbankKarl
And every ambulance chaser in BH including Gloria Alred will be trying to represent the queers...LOL...this is all about "winning the lottery" in a court settlement. Who cares what a couple of queers do in their bedroom...their Maker will be the final Judgment on their so called "marriage."
22 posted on 02/12/2004 12:34:24 PM PST by kellynla (VOTE "NO" ON PROPOSITIONS 55, 56, 57 & 58. Don't Let RINOld sell CA down the river!)
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To: BurbankKarl
By the authority granted to me by God and the State of California me and myself, I now pronounce you er....ahhh....d*mn
23 posted on 02/12/2004 12:34:34 PM PST by WinOne4TheGipper (Formerly will1776.)
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To: WinOne4TheGipper
I now pronounce you er....ahhh....d*mn

"It and It. You may now kiss the orifice of your "choice."

24 posted on 02/12/2004 12:37:00 PM PST by concerned about politics ( Liberals are still stuck at the bottom of Maslow's Hierarchy)
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To: george wythe
"In some countries, such as northern European nations, gay marriage is legal."

Actually, gay unions are NOT designated as "marriages" in most countries where they are legal. America would actually "lead" the world in legalizing gay marriage.

25 posted on 02/12/2004 12:39:08 PM PST by Truthsayer20
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To: concerned about politics
LOL!
26 posted on 02/12/2004 12:39:24 PM PST by WinOne4TheGipper (Formerly will1776.)
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To: george wythe
They can
27 posted on 02/12/2004 12:41:49 PM PST by NYFriend
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To: BurbankKarl
They could have ceremony knighting someone "Supreme Comander of the Universe" and give them a certificate and it would mean just the same - nothing.
28 posted on 02/12/2004 12:42:33 PM PST by KC_Conspirator (This space for rent)
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To: WinOne4TheGipper
A future liberal Supreme Court (or maybe this one, depending on Kennedy or O'Connor) could force this on the other states by way of the Full Faith and Credit Clause.

Does a concealed carry permit from Florida will be accepted in Massachusetts?

I doubt it. The Full Faith and Credit clause has plenty of loopholes.

Furthermore, a liberal Supreme Court can find that European law or the UN Charter of Human Rights overrides the US Constitution, amended or not, and gay marriage is an alienable right.

I think that amending our precious documents to fight liberal judges is not adequate. We need a conservative-leaning President and Senate, not a ERA-like amendment that will never be ratified.

The problem you correctly identified is liberal judges. We need to elect a few conservative Senators with a backbone who will be leaders in the US Senate, instead of caving in to Democrats on the Judicial Committee.

In my humble opinion, ten Jesse Helms will do more in the US Senate for conservatives that any amendment to the US Constitution.

On the other hand, perhaps this talk about a constitutional amendment will help reelect Bush, especially if it helps energize the Republican base.

29 posted on 02/12/2004 12:44:30 PM PST by george wythe
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To: concerned about politics
I think you are confusing the California Supreme Court (a State court) with the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals (a Federal Court, one step below SCOTUS).
30 posted on 02/12/2004 12:46:11 PM PST by You Dirty Rats
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To: Agnes Heep
...they're not married unless the marriage is recognized by the State.

They're not marriage unless the marriage is recognized in the eyes of God. I believe His opinion on this matter is well known.

31 posted on 02/12/2004 12:46:57 PM PST by Mr. Lucky
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To: george wythe
Article IV

Section 1. Full faith and credit shall be given in each state to the public acts, records, and judicial proceedings of every other state. And the Congress may by general laws prescribe the manner in which such acts, records, and proceedings shall be proved, and the effect thereof.

No mention of Sweden or any other Eurosocialists in the US Constitution.

32 posted on 02/12/2004 12:51:17 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: george wythe
George, I wish I could agree with you on states' rights grounds, but I can't.

Below is a post I made on another thread earlier today regarding why gay marriage can't be confined to one state (such as Massachusetts, but the same would be true for California):




I keep trying to warn people that if gay marriage is allowed to become law in Massachusetts, it will spread like a disease across the rest of the country.

Many of the people who use the "states' rights" argument for opposing a federal marriage amendment don't seem to fathom the dynamics at work here. They act as if the only consequence of gay marriage in Massachusetts will be gay marriage in Massachusetts.

But if gay marriage is allowed to stand in Massachusetts, it's inevitable that certain things will follow.

Other states have leftist state Supreme Courts. No doubt the justices on those courts are watching the Massachusetts case carefully. If gay marriage survives there, look for three or four other state courts to order gay marriage within a year or so, triggering more battles.

Because New England is geographically compact, huge pressure will occur on the other five states to recognize Massachusetts gay marriages. It isn't "fair", it'll be argued, that a gay couple from Boston can't rent a summer cottage in Maine and have their gay status validated there as well. It isn't "fair" that a lesbian who lives in Massachusetts but works in Providence doesn't have Rhode Island spousal legal protections for her "wife".

There will be a constitutional challenge to the Defense of Marriage Act, as already noted many times, under the full faith & credit clause.

It will quickly be argued that married Massachusetts gays are "prisoners" confined to one state because they can't move without losing their marital status. Some gay guy from Boston will claim he has an excellent job offer from a company in Omaha, but can't accept it because his marriage wouldn't be recognized by law in Nebraska.

Big corporations, who seem enraptured by the gay agenda, will jump on the bandwagon, claiming they're losing out on recruiting great employees from Massachusetts because the laws elsewhere don't permit gay marriage. So there's your equal protection 14th amendment argument for voiding all laws against gay marriage.

Sad as it may be to some people, there can be no stopping gay marriage from spreading nationwide once it gets established in even one state. It'll be all or nothing. Either a federal amendment banning gay marriage, or a federal judicial fiat imposing it everywhere.



33 posted on 02/12/2004 12:55:02 PM PST by puroresu
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To: BurbankKarl
Homosexuals can already marry if they want. They have the same access to marry as anyone else. Find someone of the opposite sex and do it.
They choose a fetish instead. If they choose a fetish, that's their choice.
If they want to get married, choose a different lifestyle. It's simple. They're not being denied anything. They're denying themselves.

They're doing this to ruin the day of natural love for normal people. They must be miserable people at heart.

34 posted on 02/12/2004 12:55:02 PM PST by concerned about politics ( Liberals are still stuck at the bottom of Maslow's Hierarchy)
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To: BurbankKarl
Let not the law and reality get in the way
35 posted on 02/12/2004 1:06:39 PM PST by GeronL (www.ArmorforCongress.com ............... Support a FReeper for Congress)
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To: BurbankKarl
If homosexual marriage passes, remember, NAMBLA members can marry and legally adopt their boy sex toys. They can adopt lots of them, and share them with each other. The Texas Sodomy law would stop any investigations. The homosexuals will be allowed to freely molest their victims at will.
36 posted on 02/12/2004 1:07:01 PM PST by concerned about politics ( Liberals are still stuck at the bottom of Maslow's Hierarchy)
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To: jwalsh07
Why are foreign marriages accepted in the US? Do you happen to know the constitutional basis for it?

Several years ago, José became a US citizen, but he was still not married. He said that he couldn't find a good woman in America, so José went to México, married Juanita, and had a big wedding reception at Juanita's village.

José went to the US consulate in Guadalajara, filled out several papers, and waited a few months. His wife, Juanita, came to the US four months later.

Mario came to the US and married an American citizen. After Mario became a US citizen, he divorced his American wife and became involved in drug shipments from Latin America.

The US Attorney could not get Mario for drug trafficking, but he got Mario for bigamy. The US Attorney prosecuted Mario because he had been married in Colombia, and without divorcing his Colombian wife, he moved to America and married an American.

Mario said he had been separated from his Colombian wife even before he came to America, and he thought that foreign marriages did not count in America. He was convicted of bigamy.

Real life examples.

37 posted on 02/12/2004 1:07:48 PM PST by george wythe
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To: BurbankKarl
According to the sexually dysfunctional at DUmmies, the same is going to be attempted in Houston tomorrow.

Their ignoring all the nations laws. It's a homosexual fascist take over?

Homosexuals are criminally insane. They're seriously mentally ill.

38 posted on 02/12/2004 1:12:58 PM PST by concerned about politics ( Liberals are still stuck at the bottom of Maslow's Hierarchy)
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To: BurbankKarl
"Only an unmarried male and an unmarried female may marry in California."

California Marriage License, Registration and Ceremony Information

Complete disregard for the law?

If two homosexuals can get married. Why can't two 15 year olds (boy and girl) get married? Because it is illegal? That does not seem to stop homosexuals.

40 posted on 02/12/2004 1:23:33 PM PST by expatguy
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To: freewilly999999
Not a chance!
41 posted on 02/12/2004 1:23:53 PM PST by puroresu
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To: george wythe
Treaties, which are described in the US Constitution.

Jacques and Pierre achieved wedded bliss in Montreal, they moved to Colorad. Voila, they are not married in the eyes of Colorado or the US of A.

But I don't understand your point. The states are bound by the Constitution through full faith and credit. Treaties made with other nations, are Constitutional but a whole other ball of wax. No relation to each other.

42 posted on 02/12/2004 1:24:40 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: BurbankKarl; All
Why are these city officials not being ARRESTED for breaking the law??

Why are they not being stopped?

43 posted on 02/12/2004 1:25:36 PM PST by expatguy
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To: expatguy
Why are they not being stopped?

In a fascist take over, laws don't matter.
America will obey!

44 posted on 02/12/2004 1:28:12 PM PST by concerned about politics ( Liberals are still stuck at the bottom of Maslow's Hierarchy)
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To: BurbankKarl
I can just hear Michael Savage...he will be in rare form today!

You mean he's going to be angry. How is that "rare?"

45 posted on 02/12/2004 1:30:31 PM PST by xm177e2 (Stalinists, Maoists, Ba'athists, Pacifists: Why are they always on the same side?)
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To: jwalsh07
My only point that the US government and the US courts pick and choose which marriages are valid all the time, at least in the matter of with foreign marriages.

Why do US courts accept a marriage of two hetero people from Peru, but not a marriage of two gay people from Denmark? Do these treaties explicitaly exclude gay marriage or polygamist marriage?

I don't know the answer, I was wondering if you knew why.

As far as the Full Faith and Credit clause, why is that a Florida concealed carry permit is not accepted in Massachusetts? Who determines which state acts are valid nationwide, and which state acts are valid only inside a state?

46 posted on 02/12/2004 1:30:51 PM PST by george wythe
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To: george wythe
Why do US courts accept a marriage of two hetero people from Peru, but not a marriage of two gay people from Denmark?

Because homosexuality is not a gender or race.
It's a dysfunctional sex fetish. It's a chosen deviation that requires medical help, not the demoralizing of society to accommodate it.

47 posted on 02/12/2004 1:35:05 PM PST by concerned about politics ( Liberals are still stuck at the bottom of Maslow's Hierarchy)
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To: george wythe
As far as the Full Faith and Credit clause, why is that a Florida concealed carry permit is not accepted in Massachusetts? Who determines which state acts are valid nationwide, and which state acts are valid only inside a state?

Because the courts are populated with liberal activists who pick and choose what laws to legislate from the bench.

48 posted on 02/12/2004 1:35:33 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: expatguy
The insane liberals don't give a damn about The Law - unless they can bend it to their twisted ideas of maximum control of those whose behavior they don't like. Although a clear violation of state law, the forces of evil will find a friendly judge who will grant them any sort of injunction or find any sort of "loophole" in the Cal Constitution that will allow them to proceed on their march to doom. I have no doubt about that at all. The Cal SC is nothing but a rubber stamp organization for those who are the Enemies of Freedom, including the majority of the Cal legislature. Although they have found that the RKBA is not protected by either the California or the US Constitutions, they will have no trouble finding a Constitutional basis for faggot marriage. "The Law is an @ss."
49 posted on 02/12/2004 1:36:31 PM PST by 45Auto (Big holes are (almost) always better.)
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To: BurbankKarl
The gays don't want marriage and all that goes with it. They want to infuriate decent Americans, moon our Christian beliefs, and head this train wreck to lowering the age of consent to 12 (8 if they can keep Manhattan and Beverly Hills liberals behind them).

The only reason they have gained strength is because of the liberal class who have the propaganda power.

50 posted on 02/12/2004 1:37:08 PM PST by 3catsanadog (When anything goes, everything does.)
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