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Swine: Secret Weapon Against Islamic Terror?
Arutz Sheva ^ | Feb 13, 2004

Posted on 02/12/2004 2:32:09 PM PST by Rams82

A suggestion that has been made repeatedly since the start of the Oslo War is about to be adopted by Israel’s police force. According to a report by Maariv, the plan calls for the insertion of bags of pig fat in public buses and other central locations in the hope that it will deter Islamic terrorist suicide bombers aiming for martyrdom from detonating themselves there.

The suggestion is based on the fact that Islam regards the pig as an unclean animal and Muslim law bars any Moslem who touches a pig before dying access to heaven. One of the basic motives for Islamic suicide terrorists is the assurance that as a ‘shahid’ or martyr, their place in paradise is guaranteed as they die in ‘holy martyrdom’ for the sake of Islam.

Although the idea has been vocally suggested for years, and was practiced in various forms by the British before 1948, the Maariv report says that the police just recently “thought of the idea,” but wanted to obtain rabbinic assurance that the plan would not upset observant Jews.

Rabbi Eliezer Moshe Fisher, of the Jerusalem Rabbinical Court, issued his official ruling on Wednesday saying, “there is no halachic (Jewish legal) ban on using bags of lard in buses and other places” when saving lives is concerned. The Jewish legal permit says that bags of lard may be placed in any place that might be a target for suicide bombings, such as schools, shopping malls, railway stations, and any other crowded area.

The rabbi also said that if the police do not use pig fat in buses, tens of thousands of Torah-observant Jews would arm themselves with spray guns filled with liquid lard, which they would then spray on terrorists as the need arises.

Deputy Defense Minister MK Yaakov Edri (Likud) came out in support of the new idea. “If bags of pig lard will prevent zealous Muslim terrorists from carrying out attacks, I’m all for it”, he said.

According to the Moskovski Komsomol newspaper, Russian security have been burying Chechen terrorists wrapped in pig's skin ever since the siege on a Russian theater last year. Reportedly, the actions have become a deterrent amongst Chechen Muslims but have done nothing to deter nationalist terrorism.

Residents of Gush Katif have tried the formula in the past, inserting pig fat in the body of terrorists that have attacked their homes. Residents told Arutz-7 that a "right-wing kibbutz-nik" had supplied them with the swine tissues. Arab MKs responded to a report of such actions with outrage. Abdel Malek Dahamshe said, "The ethical inferiority and lowliness that the settlers have reached is intolerable. This is an act of first-degree desecration of God's name." MK Tzvi Hendel responded, "If these primitive murderers stuff their brains with nonsense about Paradise and who-knows-how-many virgins waiting only for them, then they certainly believe in the other nonsense that being buried with pigskin blocks their way to Paradise."


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Israel; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: israel; piglard; terrorism
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1 posted on 02/12/2004 2:32:10 PM PST by Rams82
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To: Rams82
About time.
2 posted on 02/12/2004 2:33:46 PM PST by happygrl
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To: Rams82
They'll just find a "loophole" in the Koran.
3 posted on 02/12/2004 2:35:53 PM PST by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: Rams82
Insteead of a flame thrower how about a pig grease thrower ?
4 posted on 02/12/2004 2:38:27 PM PST by John Lenin
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To: Rams82
Since no observing Jew would be blowing themselves up and possibly coming in contact with the pig tallow, I don't think there'd be a problem.
The Islamakazis though WOULD be coming into contact with it possibly.
And as a deterrent, even if the pig tallow isn't on board, the mere suggestion that the dead creep's body is defiled should start to keep them at bay.
Especially if said dead creep is found with burnt pig tallow on him.
Even if the pig tallow wasn't truly on the bus at all.
(A devious mind at work against murderous terrorists.)
5 posted on 02/12/2004 2:38:49 PM PST by Darksheare (Justin Timberlake exposed my tagline and now it feels used!)
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To: facedown
Try as they might, there is no cleansing ritual for them.
Once defiled with pig, they are consigned to the 9th level of Naar forever in their religion.
6 posted on 02/12/2004 2:40:03 PM PST by Darksheare (Justin Timberlake exposed my tagline and now it feels used!)
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To: Rams82
I have long thought we don't make enough use of the Pig Bomb. Having lived in the Middle East for a few years, I could see the aversion to pigs (not to mention dogs) is very real. This could be a real boost for Oscar Mayer.
7 posted on 02/12/2004 2:40:08 PM PST by speedy
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To: Rams82
According to the Moskovski Komsomol newspaper, Russian security have been burying Chechen terrorists wrapped in pig's skin ever since the siege on a Russian theater last year.

We could learn a few things about combating terror from our komrades. There's a reason why Iran only took one Soviet hostage, and held him a very short time...

8 posted on 02/12/2004 2:40:36 PM PST by Dr.Deth
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To: Rams82
This thread is making me hungry. All this pork talk. Am I weird?
9 posted on 02/12/2004 2:41:59 PM PST by jtminton (2Timothy 4:2)
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To: Darksheare
The fact that muslims think pig fat would prevent them from going to heaven is yet more evidence that their religion is bogus.

What a wimpy god, so to speak.

Jesus Christ/Yahweh would not (and is not) bothered by anything Christians do, at least as far as salvation is concerned.
10 posted on 02/12/2004 2:42:49 PM PST by MeanWestTexan
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To: Rams82
There was a report on an earlier thread that burying the bodies of killed terrorists wrapped in pigskin stopped an Islamic uprising in the Philippines dead in its tracks in the 1950s.

Normally the rules of war call for respectful treatment of the bodies of your killed enemy. But this is different. Barbarians who target unarmed civilians outside of combat zones don't fit the definition of combatant fatalities, and as such merit no such consideration.

11 posted on 02/12/2004 2:44:25 PM PST by chimera
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To: NYC GOP Chick
Terrorist's Body Wrapped In Pigskin

Couldn't resist posting this link again. ;^)


12 posted on 02/12/2004 2:45:30 PM PST by Constitution Day (Eschew exclamatory abuse.)
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To: MeanWestTexan
I know, that's the funny part of it.
While Jews detest pigs, they at least can become ceremonially cleansed of it from what I understand.

Makes for an interesting proposition though.
Merely state that there is pig tallow on board, maybe a sign that says it's under a random seat or some such, and see what the Islamists do.
(In arabic)
"Pig Tallow under a random seat for your safety. Have a nice day"
13 posted on 02/12/2004 2:46:32 PM PST by Darksheare (Justin Timberlake exposed my tagline and now it feels used!)
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To: Rams82
General John "Blackjack" Pershing found this to be a very effective weapon during the Phillipine Moro Uprising 1911-1912.
14 posted on 02/12/2004 2:47:05 PM PST by wjcsux (If you can read this, you are in range.)
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To: Rams82
Israel should just carpet-bomb Gaza and the West Bank with smoked hams. I'd love to see a whole pig crash through the roof of a mosque and go splat all over the crazy lunatics.
15 posted on 02/12/2004 2:48:39 PM PST by rickmichaels
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To: facedown
They'll just find a "loophole" in the Koran.

Sure. Jewish law is flexible where saving lives are concerned. Muslim law is flexible where killing Jews is concerned.

16 posted on 02/12/2004 2:49:04 PM PST by Salman (Mickey Akbar)
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To: Rams82
Where can I get a can of Lard Mace? Would love to spray it on unsuspecting towel-heads...
17 posted on 02/12/2004 2:50:05 PM PST by ConservativeConvert
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To: Constitution Day
LOL!
Loved the part where the terrorist Pali's said that it was the "lowliest of ethical and moral" stuff.
18 posted on 02/12/2004 2:50:42 PM PST by Darksheare (Justin Timberlake exposed my tagline and now it feels used!)
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To: rickmichaels
Flying pig bomb bump.
19 posted on 02/12/2004 2:52:13 PM PST by Darksheare (Justin Timberlake exposed my tagline and now it feels used!)
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To: Darksheare
While Jews detest pigs, they at least can become ceremonially cleansed of it from what I understand.

Jewish law prohibits eating pig. There's no big deal horror of pigs in Judaism as in Islam.

A Jew can even own a pig, just as a Jew can own a dog, cat, horse, or camel, even though it is not permitted to eat them.

20 posted on 02/12/2004 2:52:44 PM PST by Salman (Mickey Akbar)
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To: Salman
Okers.
What do you think of the pig tallow under seat warning sign, written in arabic of course.
Think that might deter some would be homicide bombers?
21 posted on 02/12/2004 2:54:00 PM PST by Darksheare (Justin Timberlake exposed my tagline and now it feels used!)
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To: John Lenin
Insteead of a flame thrower how about a pig grease thrower ?

They could fill and recharge household fire extinguishers with the substance, probably at very little cost. The spray would probably look like something out of Ghostbusters 2.

22 posted on 02/12/2004 2:54:41 PM PST by Bacon Man (Beware the lollipop of mediocrity. Lick once and you suck forever.)
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To: Rams82
Serve hot dogs on British flight 223 and that'll stop the threats.
23 posted on 02/12/2004 2:55:03 PM PST by mtbopfuyn
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To: rickmichaels
I've got this vision of pig catapults, similar to the French catapulting the barnyard animals out of the castle at King Arthur in The Quest for the Holy Grail.

Pigapults, anyone?

24 posted on 02/12/2004 2:55:14 PM PST by Warhammer ("Where are you going?" "I'm going to pick a fight" -- Braveheart)
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To: Rams82
I've been saying this for YEARS now!!!
25 posted on 02/12/2004 2:55:24 PM PST by prophetic
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To: Rams82
then how about a MOAB coated with pig's fat dropped on Mecca at the height of Ramadam :-) ??
26 posted on 02/12/2004 2:57:41 PM PST by prophetic
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To: Rams82
then how about a MOAB coated with pig's fat dropped on Mecca at the height of Ramadam :-) ??
27 posted on 02/12/2004 2:57:47 PM PST by prophetic
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To: Rams82
"Muslim law bars any Moslem who touches a pig before dying access to heaven."

Wouldn't the terrorist be dead at the moment of the explosion? If so, they would be mixing themselves with pig fat after they are dead.

I think I just found an islamic loophole...
28 posted on 02/12/2004 3:01:11 PM PST by reagan_fanatic (2 Corinthians 5:17)
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To: wjcsux
General John "Blackjack" Pershing found this to be a very effective weapon during the Phillipine Moro Uprising 1911-1912.

So did American troops during the 1991 *Desert Storm* Gulf War, who were photographed wiping down the ammunition for their rifles and machineguns with pork patties from their ration packs in front of enemy POWS, who were thereafter appropriately docile. The Evansville, Indiana M.R.E. packager Shelf Stable Foods was the helpful supplier of the pork patties, though the content of the rations has changed for varieties sake since then. But tinned sausage links will work just as well, though a bit more difficult to carry in the elastic band of a PASGT *K-pot* helmet.


29 posted on 02/12/2004 3:08:37 PM PST by archy (I was told we'd cruise the seas for American gold. We'd fire no guns-shed no tears....)
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To: Rams82
I had a bull session several years ago with a buddy of mine about hogs and Muslim terrorists. After a few beers we had the genius to envision farmers in Kansas and Iowa breeding huge numbers of big, aggressive boars. They'd likely inspire intense fear amongst the faithful, particularly during mating season. Because of their intelligence, such pigs could be used to sniff out explosives and to viciously attack enemy operatives. With advanced breeding techniques and genetic engineering, perhaps we could launch "wave like" assaults by thousands of gigantic, mean boarhogs. How about an airborne assault on a particularly pesky porcine objective? After each battle our deceased porky patrollers could be buried with the enemy dead. That would give new meaning to "when pigs fly."
30 posted on 02/12/2004 3:08:51 PM PST by CharlesThe Hammer (I huffed and I puffed and ...)
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To: prophetic
then how about a MOAB coated with pig's fat dropped on Mecca at the height of Ramadam :-) ??

Close. A spray of pigs blood will do nicely. And thinned down, it can be used in hand sprayers to discourage Islamic bombers- and those who give them cover by making such riders *routine* aboard public transportation.

31 posted on 02/12/2004 3:11:30 PM PST by archy (I was told we'd cruise the seas for American gold. We'd fire no guns-shed no tears....)
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To: Constitution Day

If that doesn't work you could always give them a "pork-chop."

"Hiiiii-yah!"

32 posted on 02/12/2004 3:14:30 PM PST by presidio9
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To: John Lenin
Insteead of a flame thrower how about a pig grease thrower ?

Why not combine the two, for a 'flaming-pig-grease-thrower?'

Hot dang!

;>)

33 posted on 02/12/2004 3:16:55 PM PST by Who is John Galt? ("COME AND TAKE IT!" - Battle of Gonzales, Texas Revolution, 1835)
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To: CharlesThe Hammer; Travis McGee
After a few beers we had the genius to envision farmers in Kansas and Iowa breeding huge numbers of big, aggressive boars. They'd likely inspire intense fear amongst the faithful, particularly during mating season.

I can think of two hog farmers in particular quite likely to assist with the program you envision, should you care to pursue it. As the selective breeding program for such *assault pigs* ensues, some registered names for particularly promising lines [Sparky, beard of the prophet, or Petunia, mother of Mohammed come to mind....] might be used as well.

And, come to think of it, there's another Hawg I don't think the muslum cultists would care to make the aquaintance of....


34 posted on 02/12/2004 3:19:08 PM PST by archy (I was told we'd cruise the seas for American gold. We'd fire no guns-shed no tears....)
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To: Rams82
The ultimate anti-terrorist weapon: A KC-135 modified to carry and spray tons of liquified pig fat over an area of several square miles.
35 posted on 02/12/2004 3:22:11 PM PST by Ancesthntr
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To: jtminton
mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm pork, the other white meat!
36 posted on 02/12/2004 3:22:16 PM PST by Damagro
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To: Rams82
Douse the suspect in swine entrails and watch him twitch? Sounds like fun.
37 posted on 02/12/2004 3:24:04 PM PST by MissAmericanPie
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To: rickmichaels
Careful there. You'll have peta and alf burning your suv with that type thinking
38 posted on 02/12/2004 3:27:35 PM PST by Damagro
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To: CharlesThe Hammer
I had a bull session several years ago with a buddy of mine about hogs and Muslim terrorists. After a few beers we had the genius to envision farmers in Kansas and Iowa breeding huge numbers of big, aggressive boars. They'd likely inspire intense fear amongst the faithful, particularly during mating season. Because of their intelligence, such pigs could be used to sniff out explosives and to viciously attack enemy operatives. With advanced breeding techniques and genetic engineering, perhaps we could launch "wave like" assaults by thousands of gigantic, mean boarhogs. How about an airborne assault on a particularly pesky porcine objective? After each battle our deceased porky patrollers could be buried with the enemy dead. That would give new meaning to "when pigs fly."

They remind me of the wargs in The Two Towers.

39 posted on 02/12/2004 3:32:49 PM PST by Siamese Princess
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To: Rams82
"The ethical inferiority and lowliness that the settlers have reached is intolerable. This is an act of first-degree desecration of God's name.

Ummmm...but mass murder of civilians through cowardly acts like suicide bombings is so ethically superior?

40 posted on 02/12/2004 3:37:00 PM PST by TheBattman (Miserable failure = http://www.michaelmoore.com)
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To: Salman
"Jewish law is flexible where saving lives are concerned. Muslim law is flexible where killing Jews is concerned."

BTTT!

41 posted on 02/12/2004 3:44:40 PM PST by Yehuda (http://www.JewPoint.blogspot.com)
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To: Rams82
What if the Muslim himself is a pig?
42 posted on 02/12/2004 3:45:20 PM PST by observer5
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To: MeanWestTexan
Jesus doesn't care about rituals; He does care about what you do.
43 posted on 02/12/2004 3:47:29 PM PST by Loc123
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To: Registered
"The rabbi also said that if the police do not use pig fat in buses, tens of thousands of Torah-observant Jews
would arm themselves with spray guns filled with liquid lard, which they would then spray on terrorists as
the need arises."
44 posted on 02/12/2004 3:48:11 PM PST by Yehuda (http://www.JewPoint.blogspot.com)
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To: Rams82
This could well be a boon to US exports of lard to the Middle East.

Lard consumption, long depressed by cholesterol worries, has already been buoyed up by the illegal-Mexican immigration, for Lard figures prominently in many Mexican dishes.

In every war America has ever fought, her pigs have stood ever ready to do their part in the war effort. General Pershing's spirit is about to march; he knew how to get rid of Muzlotrash.
45 posted on 02/12/2004 3:48:18 PM PST by Chris Talk (What Earth now is, Mars once was. What Mars now is, Earth will become.)
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To: Darksheare
Pink Floyd was well ahead of its time:

"Everyone knows... a dog needs a Home...

A shelter... from PIGS ON THE WING!
46 posted on 02/12/2004 3:50:34 PM PST by Chris Talk (What Earth now is, Mars once was. What Mars now is, Earth will become.)
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To: Chris Talk
LOL!
47 posted on 02/12/2004 3:54:27 PM PST by Darksheare (Justin Timberlake exposed my tagline and now it feels used!)
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To: MissAmericanPie
Rumor has it that a brand new airbase in Saudi Arabia near Israel, costing over $1 billion, was rendered inoperative and has been deserted ever since, because as it was about to open, a planeload of live 300 pound porkers was dropped all over it from a height of 500 feet or so.

The pigs were said to have splatted very effectively, and there was no hope to get all their blood and hair, etc. out of everything.

Dead loss of over $1 billion to Saudi muzzie terrorists.
48 posted on 02/12/2004 3:55:44 PM PST by Chris Talk (What Earth now is, Mars once was. What Mars now is, Earth will become.)
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To: John Lenin
"Insteead of a flame thrower how about a pig grease thrower ?"

Great idea! A pig grease thrower followed by a flame thrower! Send 'em to meet Allah smellin' like bacon right out of the skillet!! LOL!!!

49 posted on 02/12/2004 3:56:26 PM PST by Destructor
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To: Rams82
They should also announce -- and then do it -- that the identified remains of the suicide bombers will be fed to swine.

Sorry to be blunt but the head of the bomber is usually found intact.

Hey, Mohammed, try to explain to Allah how your eyeballs and chromosomes ended up inside the pig.
50 posted on 02/12/2004 4:00:20 PM PST by aculeus (What I Wouldn't Give for a Large Sock with Horse Manure in it.)
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