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Microsoft Source Code Leaked Over Web
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Posted on 02/12/2004 7:52:11 PM PST by Happy2BMe
Feb 12, 10:23 PM (ET)
By ALLISON LINN SEATTLE (AP) - Microsoft Corp. (MSFT) said late Thursday that portions of its Windows source code - the tightly guarded blueprints of its dominant operating system - had been leaked over the Internet.
Microsoft spokesman Tom Pilla said in an interview with The Associated Press that some incomplete portions of the Windows 2000 and Windows NT4 source code had been "illegally made available on the Internet."
Access to the source code could allow hackers to exploit the operating system and attack machines running Windows, which is used on hundreds of millions of computers worldwide.
The company was made aware of the leak on Thursday and is investigating, Pilla said. He did not know how much of the code had been leaked or how many people may have gained access to it. The company could not immediately pinpoint the source of the leak, and has contacted law enforcement authorities, he said.
Pilla said there was no indication the code leak was a result of a breach of Microsoft's corporate network. There was no known immediate impact on Microsoft customers, he said.
Microsoft has previously shared some of its source code with some U.S. government agencies, foreign governments and universities under tight restrictions that prevent such organizations from making it publicly available. But the company has generally argued that the blueprints to its operating system are proprietary, and shouldn't be made public.
Still, because some people outside Microsoft have had access to the code, analysts said it wasn't too surprising for such a leak to occur at some point - either intentionally or unintentionally.
"It seems unlikely this is going to create a material, significant security problem, said Rob Enderle, a technology expert and principal analyst with the Enderle Group. "It's more embarrassing than anything else because it makes it look like Microsoft can't control its code."
TOPICS: Extended News
KEYWORDS: itsopensourcenow; leaked; microsoft; sourcecode; windwos
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Woops!
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posted on
02/12/2004 7:52:12 PM PST
by
Happy2BMe
To: Happy2BMe
"Microsoft has previously shared some of its source code with some U.S. government agencies, foreign governments and universities under tight restrictions that prevent such organizations from making it publicly available." Let's see now. What country would want to hurt America by hurting Micro$oft?
Pakistan? India?
2
posted on
02/12/2004 7:54:58 PM PST
by
Happy2BMe
(U.S. borders - Controlled by CORRUPT Politicians and Slave-Labor Employers)
To: Happy2BMe
Bill's strategy of funding SCO to act as a stalking horse for open source FUD has failed, so his next step is obviously going to be to claim that Windows code has magically found its way into Linux.
To: Happy2BMe
Of course MS is embarrassed for showing its prudish @ss.
It only WISHES it could be free spirited Linux streaker!
To: Happy2BMe
Drip..., Drip..., Drip...
5
posted on
02/12/2004 7:56:50 PM PST
by
GeronL
(www.ArmorforCongress.com ............... Support a FReeper for Congress)
To: Happy2BMe
Pakistan? India?Oh, I thought that's where most of their source code was written in the first place.
6
posted on
02/12/2004 7:59:33 PM PST
by
bcoffey
To: GeronL; Reelect President Dubya
Me smells a ret - from inside of Miker$oft.
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posted on
02/12/2004 8:00:16 PM PST
by
Happy2BMe
(U.S. borders - Controlled by CORRUPT Politicians and Slave-Labor Employers)
To: Happy2BMe
With the rumors of what they're wanting to do with Longhorn, such as your having to get a fry cook to give you permission to play a .wav file, it wouldn't surprise me in the least MS did it on purpose, to stir fear and mistrust. The code to 9x is probably out too, and considering how just this week they admitted to another exploit which they sat on for 6 months....
Call me paranoid. But unlike MS I never got dead people to write "letters to the editor" either.
8
posted on
02/12/2004 8:01:44 PM PST
by
JoJo Gunn
(Gut and raze the NEA! ©)
To: bcoffey
"Oh, I thought that's (India and Pakistan) where most of their source code was written in the first place." Don't get Miker$oft Help Desk confused with their $oftware development center in Redmond.
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posted on
02/12/2004 8:01:44 PM PST
by
Happy2BMe
(U.S. borders - Controlled by CORRUPT Politicians and Slave-Labor Employers)
To: Happy2BMe
Could be a strategy on Microsoft's part to release the code themselves. You never know now that Linux has become a real threat to their long-term survival.
To: Happy2BMe
drip, drip, drip.... gusher!!!!!!!
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posted on
02/12/2004 8:03:40 PM PST
by
GeronL
(www.ArmorforCongress.com ............... Support a FReeper for Congress)
To: Reaganwuzthebest; All; SJackson; dennisw; MeekOneGOP; autoresponder; Salem; Geist Krieger
12
posted on
02/12/2004 8:05:41 PM PST
by
Happy2BMe
(U.S. borders - Controlled by CORRUPT Politicians and Slave-Labor Employers)
Comment #13 Removed by Moderator
To: StatesEnemy
Don't advocate criminal behavior on this site.
14
posted on
02/12/2004 8:16:01 PM PST
by
Abcdefg
To: Abcdefg
Talk about "stepping in it" . .
15
posted on
02/12/2004 8:19:20 PM PST
by
Happy2BMe
(U.S. borders - Controlled by CORRUPT Politicians and Slave-Labor Employers)
To: Abcdefg
I don't think blanketing Militant Islamic sites with HTTP requests - if the participants voluntarily load the necessary software - is illegal.
If so, can ya give me a link explaining the infraction?
To: Happy2BMe
Do MS conduct real background checks on all the ChiCOMs and Ruskies they hire, both as H1Bs here in the US, as well as the ones in their ops in Communist Red China, as well as "reformed" Russia? I think I already know the answer, so I guess it's largely a rhetorical question.
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posted on
02/12/2004 8:33:34 PM PST
by
GOP_1900AD
(Un-PC even to "Conservatives!" - Right makes right)
To: belmont_mark
"I think I already know the answer. ." I think you do to.
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posted on
02/12/2004 8:43:18 PM PST
by
Happy2BMe
(U.S. borders - Controlled by CORRUPT Politicians and Slave-Labor Employers)
To: belmont_mark
Do MS conduct real background checks on all the ChiCOMs and Ruskies they hire... They do as much as we're going to get from anyone who's not doing strictly DoD work.
illegal is the key word from the article above. Unfortunately many here and on other message boards will cheer this on.
To: Happy2BMe
Open access to source code is one of the main reasons why potential users shy away from Linux.
To: Agnes Heep; All
Kinda reminds me of the dialog from one of my favorite movies:
Chili Palmer: Martin, look at me.
Martin Weir: I'm looking at you
Chili Palmer: No, look at me the way I'm looking at you.
21
posted on
02/12/2004 9:30:36 PM PST
by
LisaMalia
(In Memory of James W. Lunsford..KIA 11-29-69 Binh Dinh S. Vietnam)
To: Happy2BMe
Microsoft Source Code Leaked Over Web
Did it drain from Microsoft or did someone else spill it?
22
posted on
02/12/2004 9:37:32 PM PST
by
jrushing
(What goes here? Does anyone know what goes here?)
To: Happy2BMe
So all you late adopters of XP better hurry up. All the hackers have your code now.
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posted on
02/12/2004 9:38:58 PM PST
by
evolved_rage
(All your base are belong to us.)
To: Agnes Heep
Open access to source code is one of the main reasons why potential users shy away from Linux.
There are many reasons. But that isn't one of them.
Linux is far more secure. Despite its open source and millions of competent coders with the source, there are only about a half dozen exploits/viruses for it. And those got fixed in about a day.
The difference in security isn't even comparable between Linux and M$. BSD (Mac OS X) is even more formidable. And so are the proprietary Unices.
24
posted on
02/12/2004 10:06:50 PM PST
by
George W. Bush
(It's the Congress, stupid.)
To: Happy2BMe
I'd mention the following which will show the wide availability of the source code, even on XDCC servers:
PacketNews search engine (search for 'Windows 2000 source')
Also, for those who have mIRC already installed, you can verify this at:
irc.xtc-dreams.com
#warez-asylum
/ctcp [wa]-uni-11000 xdcc send #1
The file is: windows_2000_source_code.zip, 203MB
Here's a
link to a list of the files in the source archive.
[The above info is for information only. I despise and deplore IP theft. I strongly warn everyone to avoid downloading any proprietary code. And I'm certain that our management here at FR agree, having never tolerated illegal activities of any kind. The previous info provided only to demonstrate how widely available this code already is and not for any illegal purpose.]
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posted on
02/12/2004 10:24:12 PM PST
by
George W. Bush
(It's the Congress, stupid.)
To: Happy2BMe
I don't know how much was leaked, but by Monday, it will be the most-downloaded item on KaZaa.
Here is a link to a text file listing the files that got loose.
File listing
(Please note these are not the source code files themselves, just a listing of what was leaked. ...and no, I don't have the code. )
To: evolved_rage
So all you late adopters of XP better hurry up. All the hackers have your code now. Maybe this is the reason the code was "leaked".
To: Dan Cooper
Windows 2000 = Windows 5.0.xxxx
Windows XP = Windows 5.1.xxxx
Basically, the same code base. WinXP is prettier and has more of the DirectX gaming/multimedia stuff.
Otherwise, it's the same old thing. Both were built on the old WinNT code base.
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posted on
02/12/2004 11:02:24 PM PST
by
George W. Bush
(It's the Congress, stupid.)
To: Dan Cooper
Windows 2000 = Windows 5.0.xxxx
Windows XP = Windows 5.1.xxxx
Basically, the same code base. WinXP is prettier and has more of the DirectX gaming/multimedia stuff.
Otherwise, it's the same old thing. Both were built on the old WinNT code base.
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posted on
02/12/2004 11:02:49 PM PST
by
George W. Bush
(It's the Congress, stupid.)
To: belmont_mark
Do MS conduct real background checks on all the ChiCOMs and Ruskies they hire, both as H1Bs here in the US, as well as the ones in their ops in Communist Red China, as well as "reformed" Russia?
Russia and China have already seen the source code. They had security concerns and Microsoft showed it to them, saying they never gave them a copy.
Given the aggressive new Chinese DVD video standard (to crush DRM and CSS protection) and China's initiative to develop their own new official Linux distribution, I wouldn't be surprised if the Chinese leaked this code as an industrial sabotage.
Meanwhile, Micro$oft is putting the finishing touches on Windows XP Lite, a cut-down version of XP for the Chinese/Asian market. It will lack some features but will be upgradable to the full XP Home and XP Pro versions.
Personally, I hope the Chinese crush Microsoft with open-source. Better than having to live with Gates' miserable money-grubbing bug-ridden code for the rest of our lives.
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posted on
02/12/2004 11:08:17 PM PST
by
George W. Bush
(It's the Congress, stupid.)
To: George W. Bush
Personally, I hope the Chinese crush Microsoft with open-source. You're obviously twisted in your ideals, openly supporting the expansion of communist China over the largest market cap company in the United States.
People on this forum love to try to paint me as an employee of Microsoft, but that is far from the truth, I am simply speaking out against imbeciles like you that would GLADLY sacrifice America's technological edge to communist China. You might as well have a red and yellow flag stamped on your forehead...
To: George W. Bush
Linux is far more secure. Despite its open source and millions of competent coders with the source, there are only about a half dozen exploits/viruses for it. And those got fixed in about a day. What an idiotic statement, peddled as the truth. Check lwn.net/alerts, there are over 300 reported holes in Red Hat Linux alone.
To: Golden Eagle; John Robinson
What an idiotic statement, peddled as the truth. Check lwn.net/alerts, there are over 300 reported holes in Red Hat Linux alone.
That page does not say any such thing.
The 'Alerts' page are alerts to security fixes which have already been issued. And the most recent listed on the Redhat page is from 5/29/2002.
Another place on the site does mention that they do tracking on over 300 Linux distributions. Is that what you're talking about?
Your link, lwn.net/alerts, does not say what you want people to believe.
I suppose I could go to some effort to find out if you're just a M$-troll or just plain ignorant. But it doesn't seem to merit the effort.
Maybe JohnRob would like to weigh in on this.
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posted on
02/13/2004 6:39:32 AM PST
by
George W. Bush
(It's the Congress, stupid.)
To: Golden Eagle
You're obviously twisted in your ideals, openly supporting the expansion of communist China over the largest market cap company in the United States.
No. I want competetion. Because M$ software is so buggy and so rarely fixed. I think it's deliberate, another strategy to keep us chained to their mediocre and overpriced products. With Microsoft, marketing and profit come first, product quality dead last.
And open-source requires everyone, including China, to release their source code back to the development tree for everyone to see.
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posted on
02/13/2004 6:43:24 AM PST
by
George W. Bush
(It's the Congress, stupid.)
To: George W. Bush
To: All
To: George W. Bush
And open-source requires everyone, including China, to release their source code back to the development tree for everyone to see. No it doesn't "require" it. They ask it, but apparently the Chinese aren't giving all their modifications back, something you might want to look into instead of pushing the lies further on us.
To: Golden Eagle
You moron.
Those 'alerts' are the alerts to fixes of potential security holes, revealed by constant code review. BTW, you are aware there are two different Alerts pages.
Your previous link, lwn.net/alerts, was as I said. This new one, lwn.net/Alerts, is the newer listing.
BTW, those fixes (alerts) are for differing versions of Redhat, not for all of the releases. Some are Redhat 9, some are Workstation, some are different version of the Enterprise versions.
And simply because they fixed some code doesn't mean that anyone actually exploited it. Or wrote a virus for it which is virtually unknown with Linux.
Never mind, you're still just an ignoramus or a troll.
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posted on
02/13/2004 7:22:19 AM PST
by
George W. Bush
(It's the Congress, stupid.)
To: Golden Eagle
No it doesn't "require" it. They ask it, but apparently the Chinese aren't giving all their modifications back, something you might want to look into instead of pushing the lies further on us.
If they release binary, yes, they have to release it. However, if they create private in-house versions, they don't have to. Neither do we.
If they make a widespread distribution, for instance to their business/home users, they will have to release it. Or simply be in breach of copyright.
I doubt they want to go that route. It would close the European and U.S. markets to their offerings.
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posted on
02/13/2004 7:28:39 AM PST
by
George W. Bush
(It's the Congress, stupid.)
To: Dan Cooper
It was leaked. I rarely see XP at any office I go to, and I look for it. Its always win 2k and office 2k. If I see XP, its usually on a new laptop, heh heh, and it gets replaced. I've started playing with OpenOffice and it is sweet.
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posted on
02/13/2004 7:40:23 AM PST
by
evolved_rage
(All your base are belong to us.)
To: George W. Bush
Call me whatever name you want, but you're statements are bold faced lies.
You said "Linux is far more secure. Despite its open source and millions of competent coders with the source, there are only about a half dozen exploits/viruses for it. And those got fixed in about a day."
I have since given you a link that shows there have been over 300 holes in Red Hat Linux ALONE, and you can research the posted fixes additionally to show they weren't fixed "a day" either. The correct fact you stated that there are many more distros of Linux than Red Hat actually only shows even further how absurd your original statement was since each version of Linux has abundantly more holes than your claim of "a half dozen".
But like all the Linux moonies, you'll continue to act like your lies are actually based on fact, of which they obviously are not.
To: George W. Bush
If they release binary, yes, they have to release it. However, if they create private in-house versions, they don't have to. Neither do we. If they make a widespread distribution, for instance to their business/home users, they will have to release it. Or simply be in breach of copyright. Wrong again, they don't "have to" do anything, which is exactly why they aren't. As for the rest of your post, as if the Chinese care anything about copyright infringement. You really should better research China and Linux before you go pushing them on everyone.
To: Golden Eagle
The national security / economic means implications are huge. I believe that Beijing and Moscow are prepping for a major cyber attack on the West. For example, the West is not desourcing MS nearly as quickly as the East. Therefore, an attack on MS installaions would be a net cyberwar win for the East.
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posted on
02/13/2004 8:53:59 AM PST
by
GOP_1900AD
(Un-PC even to "Conservatives!" - Right makes right)
To: Happy2BMe
BetaNews has learned that Thursday's leak of the Windows 2000 source code originated not from Microsoft, but from long-time Redmond partner Mainsoft. The leaked code includes 30,915 files and was apparently removed from a Linux computer used by Mainsoft for development purposes. Dated July 25, 2000, the source code represents Windows 2000 Service Pack 1. Analysis indicates files within the leaked archive are only a subset of the Windows source code, which was licensed to Mainsoft for use in the company's MainWin product. MainWin utilizes the source to create native Unix versions of Windows applications.
Mainsoft says it has incorporated millions of lines of untouched Windows code into MainWin. Clues to the source code's origin lie in a "core dump" file, which is left by the Linux operating system to record the memory a program is using when it crashes. Further investigation by BetaNews revealed the machine was likely used by Mainsoft's Director of Technology, Eyal Alaluf. References to MainWin can also be found throughout the leaked source files, which do not compile into a usable form of Windows. Prior to Microsoft's Shared Source Initiative launched in 2001, Mainsoft, which calls itself "the software porting company," was one of only two partners with access to the Windows source code under Microsoft's Windows Interface Source Environment (WISE) program.
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posted on
02/13/2004 9:10:29 AM PST
by
philetus
(Keep doing what you always do and you'll keep getting what you always get)
To: belmont_mark
I believe that Beijing and Moscow are prepping for a major cyber attack on the West. It's already well under way, and was initiated with the "spy plane" incident of a few years ago that led to back and forth website defacements, "code red" virus, and now we have hacker groups like "X-Focus" which release open source code exploits to Microsoft products directly on the internet without first giving MS a chance to prepare a patch.
Regardless so far thankfully we're winning the war, and our systems and protections become more advanced with every day. For some interesting reading about some of the underground activity, search for the hacker named 'pr0phet', who at one time was almost single handedly defeating the Chinese, although I do not encourage hacking or vigilante justice myself.
To: Golden Eagle
...and now we have hacker groups like "X-Focus" which release open source code exploits to Microsoft products directly on the internet without first giving MS a chance to prepare a patch.
Good. We've complained about the well-known security holes for years and they refuse to fix them. I'm glad someone is going to force them to fix it.
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posted on
02/13/2004 9:19:41 AM PST
by
George W. Bush
(It's the Congress, stupid.)
To: philetus
Thanks, that seems to come from the same link I posted in #36. They are not releasing (or do not know) yet how the code was swiped from the Linux client, but hopefully time will tell.
To: George W. Bush
You are so in support of China and it's hacker groups I have to wonder what color your skin is. Why don't you gbo ahead and change your name to "Jiang Zemin" or similar?
To: Golden Eagle
He works in an corner office with rosewood paneling and windows overlooking great scenery, on a floor far above yours. He is important!
Stick to your level.
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posted on
02/13/2004 9:29:20 AM PST
by
bvw
To: bvw
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