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How Bush’s Opponents Use a Goebbels Formula
NY Sun ^ | ALICIA COLON | Alicia Colon

Posted on 02/13/2004 11:22:30 AM PST by veronica

Did you know that President Bush has hazel eyes? I didn’t. I was under the impression his eyes were blue until I read his DD214, which everyone in the left-stream press seemed to have trouble finding until this week.

This discharge form confirms that George Bush did, indeed, get an honorable discharge from the National Guard. He served five years, four months, and five days. He was scheduled to serve six but left early, as permitted, to return to school.

The DD214 is a standard military form, but Terry McAuliffe, head of the DNC, doesn’t see it that way.

“George Bush never served in the military and our country,” he said February 1 on “This Week with George Stephanopoulos.” Perhaps he would like to explain that to the 6,140 National Guardsmen who served in Vietnam, or perhaps send his regrets to the families of the 101 who were killed.

The cover of this week’s Time magazine shows two faces of the president with the words “Does Bush Have a Credibility Gap?” between them.

Hitler’s chief propagandist, Joseph Goebbels, invented the following formula: Invent the lie; repeat it often,and it will become the truth, no matter what the facts are. Mr. Bush’s opponents are using this formula to try to convince the country he is a liar. They are repeatedly insisting the president said the danger from Iraq was imminent. Mr. Bush actually said we must not wait until it’s imminent.

They insist Mr. Bush referred to a discredited Niger nuclear connection in his 2002 State of the Union address. Lying Al Franken repeats this lie in his book, “Lies, and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them.” Mr. Bush never once mentioned Niger. The BBC reporter who charged Mr. Bush and Prime Minister Blair overhyped this nuclear threat in Africa has admitted he had no basis for this assertion and two BBC officials have resigned in disgrace.

None of this will mean anything to Mr. Bush’s enemies. Michael Moore and other Hollywood celebrities are so eager to dethrone Dubya that they will resort to the meanest, vilest, most profane language to stir up the masses. ABBA, according to Newsweek’s Anna Quindlen, is not a Swedish singing group but rather a person who lives in the Upper West Side of Manhattan and will vote for Anybody But Bush Again.

For anyone truly interested in learning the truth about Mr. Bush’s National Guard duty, please go online and read the Washington Times op-ed by retired Colonel William Campenni.

I watched our president being grilled this Sunday by Tim Russert on “Meet the Press.” Mr. Bush is admittedly not very telegenic. He is not glib. Words do not mellifluously flow from his lips. He tends to “er” and “umm” a lot.He is a good man,a decent man,and when Mr. Russert brought up the ridiculous charge of the National Guard again, his response was,“It’s fine to go after me, which I expect the other side will do. I wouldn’t denigrate service to the Guard, though, and the reason I wouldn’t,is because there are a lot of really fine people who served in the National Guard and who are serving in the National Guard today in Iraq.”

The trouble with both Bushes, pere et fils, is that they are too patrician. I would dearly have loved to see Dubya belt Mr. Russert during the hour-long inquisition for wasting his valuable time over the same dumb questions. Am I the only one sick and tired of hearing about WMDs? Did Hitler have weapons of mass destruction? Were we in imminent danger of attack from Germany? Why didn’t we just attack Japan after Pearl Harbor? Hitler managed to kill millions of people. Were we supposed to ignore that? There have been 263 mass graves found in Iraq, some reportedly with as many as 10,000 bodies. The stories of Saddam’s atrocities are legion and this means absolutely nothing to the ABBAs.

Here’s a reminder, you moronic nimrods: WE ARE AT WAR. Maniacs flew jets into the World Trade Center and the Pentagon.Thousands died.There is no conventional way to attack people who cannot be reasoned with.They are immune to diplomacy.You in your safe apartments can kvetch all you want about Mr. Bush’s social agendas but it will mean nothing if we don’t defeat the enemy. You cannot reason with these fanatics.They want to kill you.

Not one of Mr. Bush’s opponents seems to understand this. Front-runner John Kerry seems to think that his war record in Vietnam outweighs Mr. Bush’s National Guard duty. Not so fast, senator from the state that keeps re-electing Chappaquiddick Kennedy. Your tour in Vietnam and Purple Hearts for superficial wounds won’t be able to overshadow your connection with Hanoi Jane, so don’t expect Vietnam vets to forget that your anti-war efforts doomed your fellow soldiers. We did not lose in Vietnam. We quit. Is that what you want us to do in Iraq?

I,for one,am not that impressed with war heroes who conspired against their country in wartime. After all, Benedict Arnold was one, too.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bush; mcauliffe; militaryrecord

1 posted on 02/13/2004 11:22:31 AM PST by veronica
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To: veronica
Great find.
2 posted on 02/13/2004 11:24:22 AM PST by MizSterious (First, the journalists, THEN the lawyers.)
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To: dennisw; SJackson; JohnHuang2; dighton; Sabertooth; Brian Allen; BenF; Nachum; Catspaw; Alouette; ..
FYI.
3 posted on 02/13/2004 11:27:11 AM PST by veronica ("America will never seek a permission slip to defend the security of our people." GW Bush 1-20-04)
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To: veronica
"Invent the lie; repeat it often,and it will become the truth, no matter what the facts are."

This says it all.
4 posted on 02/13/2004 11:28:43 AM PST by bluegrass (tit for tat)
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To: veronica
Benedict Arnold was one too. This line is getting more play than I thought and is a great talking point.
5 posted on 02/13/2004 11:29:04 AM PST by q_an_a
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To: veronica
Exactly how LONG did Kerry serve. Bush five years? Kerry we know spent 4 months in VN, but total service?
6 posted on 02/13/2004 11:31:11 AM PST by marty60
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To: bluegrass
I know what a DD-214 is, I cried when they gave my honorable discharge to me.

A note to all FR veterans - FAX a copy of your discharge certificates to the DNC and tell them to wipe their asses with them.
7 posted on 02/13/2004 11:32:30 AM PST by chambley1 (n)
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To: veronica
GOEBBELS' PRINCIPLES OF PROPAGANDA

Based upon Goebbels' Principles of Propaganda by Leonard W. Doob, published in Public Opinion and Propaganda; A Book of Readings edited for The Society for the Psychological Study of Social Issues.

1. Propagandist must have access to intelligence concerning events and public opinion.
 
2. Propaganda must be planned and executed by only one authority.

a. It must issue all the propaganda directives.

b. It must explain propaganda directives to important officials and maintain their morale.

c. It must oversee other agencies' activities which have propaganda consequences

3. The propaganda consequences of an action must be considered in planning that action.
 
4. Propaganda must affect the enemy's policy and action.

a. By suppressing propagandistically desirable material which can provide the enemy with useful intelligence

b. By openly disseminating propaganda whose content or tone causes the enemy to draw the desired conclusions

c. By goading the enemy into revealing vital information about himself

d. By making no reference to a desired enemy activity when any reference would discredit that activity

5. Declassified, operational information must be available to implement a propaganda campaign
 
6. To be perceived, propaganda must evoke the interest of an audience and must be transmitted through an attention-getting communications medium.
 
7. Credibility alone must determine whether propaganda output should be true or false.
 
8. The purpose, content and effectiveness of enemy propaganda; the strength and effects of an expose; and the nature of current propaganda campaigns determine whether enemy propaganda should be ignored or refuted.
 
9. Credibility, intelligence, and the possible effects of communicating determine whether propaganda materials should be censored.
 
10. Material from enemy propaganda may be utilized in operations when it helps diminish that enemy's prestige or lends support to the propagandist's own objective.
 
11. Black rather than white propaganda may be employed when the latter is less credible or produces undesirable effects.
 
12. Propaganda may be facilitated by leaders with prestige.
 
13. Propaganda must be carefully timed.

a. The communication must reach the audience ahead of competing propaganda.

b. A propaganda campaign must begin at the optimum moment

c. A propaganda theme must be repeated, but not beyond some point of diminishing effectiveness

14. Propaganda must label events and people with distinctive phrases or slogans.

a. They must evoke desired responses which the audience previously possesses

b. They must be capable of being easily learned

c. They must be utilized again and again, but only in appropriate situations

d. They must be boomerang-proof

15. Propaganda to the home front must prevent the raising of false hopes which can be blasted by future events.
 
16. Propaganda to the home front must create an optimum anxiety level.

a. Propaganda must reinforce anxiety concerning the consequences of defeat

b. Propaganda must diminish anxiety (other than concerning the consequences of defeat) which is too high and which cannot be reduced by people themselves

17. Propaganda to the home front must diminish the impact of frustration.

a. Inevitable frustrations must be anticipated

b. Inevitable frustrations must be placed in perspective

18. Propaganda must facilitate the displacement of aggression by specifying the targets for hatred.
 
19. Propaganda cannot immediately affect strong counter-tendencies; instead it must offer some form of action or diversion, or both.

http://www.psywarrior.com/Goebbels.html

8 posted on 02/13/2004 11:36:10 AM PST by Hon
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To: chambley1
Here’s a reminder, you moronic nimrods: WE ARE AT WAR.


Something that all of the "Bush is not 100% conservative so I won't vote for him again" bunch need to get through their thick skulls!
9 posted on 02/13/2004 11:37:04 AM PST by kaktuskid
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To: veronica
Joseph Goebbels would have loved the current crop of democrats and the internet even more.
10 posted on 02/13/2004 11:37:28 AM PST by cripplecreek (you win wars by making the other dumb SOB die for his country)
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To: veronica
I'm tired of the Kerry medal BS out of the Dums. Even Adolph Hitler got a medal.
11 posted on 02/13/2004 11:37:37 AM PST by marty60
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To: chambley1
Great idea - mine will reflect 31/2 years active duty USAF - given a six month "early out" since they were looking to save $.

From there I enlisted in the Texas ANG and served two years with none other than our great President!

Guard duty is honorable service, and GWB helped guard our soft (Gulf of Mexico) under-belly on air partols against Russian "Bear" aircraft flying out of Cuba.

12 posted on 02/13/2004 11:39:20 AM PST by VRWCTexan
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To: All

From a site funded by Teresa Heinz [Kerry].

13 posted on 02/13/2004 11:39:51 AM PST by Hon
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To: marty60
oops before my vet friends go nuts on me. The meaning is, it's not whats on the man's chest but what is in his mind and heart. Kerry's actions after the war says eveything. Even up to THIS war.
14 posted on 02/13/2004 11:39:57 AM PST by marty60
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To: veronica
Benedict Arnold lost a leg fighting for the USA in the Revolution before he turned traitor. Kerry got 3 scratches and used them to get an early ride home. Now he wants to use then for a free ride into the Presidency.
15 posted on 02/13/2004 11:43:25 AM PST by sgtbono2002 (I aint wrong, I aint sorry , and I am probably going to do it again.)
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To: veronica
Mr. Bush’s opponents are using this formula to try to convince the country he is a liar.

Meanwhile, those who are supposed to be his allies in Congress are busy kowtowing, butt kissing, and otherwise prostrating themselves before Goebbels party. I guess we can't expect them to stand up for their president when they're so busy investigating themselves for "wrongdoing", can we?

16 posted on 02/13/2004 11:47:06 AM PST by workerbee
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To: Hon
Okay everyone, how much of that can you recognize in our own government?
17 posted on 02/13/2004 11:50:45 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: chambley1
A note to all FR veterans - FAX a copy of your discharge certificates to the DNC and tell them to wipe their asses with them.

I get the intended point, but no way. I don't want their sleazy operatives knowing I even exist, much less have so much information on me.

18 posted on 02/13/2004 11:52:38 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: antiRepublicrat
Ya your're right, not a smart thing to do. I am just so damn pissed and these gutless lefties. We need a veteran protest at DNC or something.
19 posted on 02/13/2004 11:56:02 AM PST by chambley1 (n)
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To: chambley1
FAX a copy of your discharge certificates to the DNC and tell them to wipe their asses with them.

You realize, that this gives them an excellent "enemies list", and maybe the sort of thing that can be the beginnings of a roster for confinement sometime in the future, if, however unlikely it may seem now, suppression is deemed to be the official government policy.

Vote and campaign against every Democrat currently running for office anywhere, as if your life depended on it. Someday, it may.

20 posted on 02/13/2004 11:56:26 AM PST by alloysteel
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To: veronica
Compliation of many articles and commentaries, and some where in the list is a copy of Dubya's discharge paper.Hobbs online
21 posted on 02/13/2004 11:57:32 AM PST by GailA (Millington Rally for America after action http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/872519/posts)
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To: marty60
Don't quite a few police dogs also have medals?
22 posted on 02/13/2004 11:59:06 AM PST by GailA (Millington Rally for America after action http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/872519/posts)
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To: bluegrass
I have to credit a friend with this : "The first liar in...wins".
23 posted on 02/13/2004 12:01:37 PM PST by tertiary01 (Learn from history or it will be repeated until you do.)
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24 posted on 02/13/2004 12:01:53 PM PST by StriperSniper (Manuel Miranda - Whistleblower)
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To: q_an_a
Benedict Arnold was one too. This line is getting more play than I thought and is a great talking point.

Should become a great pubbie talking point, Ask your rat friends what other great American War Hero does John F'in Kerry remind you of? Of course its Benedict Arnold.

25 posted on 02/13/2004 12:03:20 PM PST by machman
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To: veronica
BUMP
26 posted on 02/13/2004 12:05:07 PM PST by jcb8199
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To: chambley1
I am just so damn pissed and these gutless lefties. We need a veteran protest at DNC or something.

Me too. I don't really like either party (see the handle), but the Dims are just so downright nasty to the military and veterans it's sickening. The Republican half of the party is definitely preferable.

27 posted on 02/13/2004 12:05:38 PM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: veronica
GREAT piece.
28 posted on 02/13/2004 12:07:48 PM PST by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet ("Lashing out" at Democrats since 1990.)
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To: veronica
No offense, but I don't think that Bush(43) has a DD-214 as he was in the Air National Guard. I believe he has the National Guard equivalent, the NGB Form 22. This is the same mistake that former Senator Max Cleland made on Hardball when he said that everyone who left the military has a DD-214. In his zeal to damn Bush, he showed his continuing ignorance by assigning the specific term "DD-214" to be the requirement to prove Bush(43)'s term of service, instead of the correct NGB Form 22. Sort of like saying the brand name "Kleenex" instead of the generic "facial tissue".

Bottom line, Bush(43) does not have a DD-214, but he does have an NGB Form 22 for his Air National Guard service.



Bush NGB Form 22

Bush(43) NGB Form 22


Hope this helps...

dvwjr

29 posted on 02/13/2004 12:16:42 PM PST by dvwjr
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Yehuda; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; ...
If you'd like to be on or off this middle east/political ping list, please FR mail me.

Yikes, there is a resemblance. Maybe someone can get them to morph.


30 posted on 02/13/2004 12:23:50 PM PST by SJackson (Visit http://www.JewPoint.blogspot.com)
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To: alloysteel
This is excellent. Too bad it is too long for a tag line:

Vote and campaign against every Democrat currently running for office anywhere, as if your life depended on it. Someday, it may!

31 posted on 02/13/2004 12:37:28 PM PST by Grampa Dave (John F' Kerry may be closer to being a John F' Kennedy than we thought.)
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To: sgtbono2002
Arnold did not lose a leg. His leg was severely injured at Saratoga. There is a monument to his leg, but it does not bear his name.

Arnold was posted to West Point partly to enable him to recover. Alas, his wife had convinced him by then. Had he only married better, he could have been President.
32 posted on 02/13/2004 12:40:30 PM PST by donmeaker (Duty is the most sublime word in the English language.)
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To: donmeaker
A few minutes later Arnold caught up with some of Learned's Connecticut militia. "My old Norwich and New London friends," he shouted as he rode by, and the cheers of the men rang in his ears. Within moments Arnold was at the head of Learned's brigade, exhorting the troops to follow him, "Come on brave boys, come on!" Three of Learned's regiments charged uphill into withering fire from Specht's men. American and German cannon exchanged canister fire. Finally, as Balcarres' British troops fled past their position, the Germans broke.

Fraser was still trying to form a new line on the right, but one of Morgan's sharpshooters put an end to that. Conspicuous in his scarlet and white uniform and mounted on a large gray horse, Fraser suddenly crumpled backward with a bullet in his abdomen (see "Americans," June 2000). He would die the next morning.

By this time most of Burgoyne's men had fallen back to the protection of the two massive redoubts the British had built at Freeman's Farm during the weeks after the first battle. Arnold wasted no time leading a charge against the nearest to him, the Balcarres Redoubt. He waved his sword and dashed among the troops as musket balls and grapeshot whizzed around them. But the huge log walls--bristling with abatis and defended by desperate infantry--kept the Americans out.

Looking north toward the less-heavily defended Breymann Redoubt, Arnold spied an opening, and in a heartbeat he raced for it through a hail of lead. As Morgan and Dearborn attacked it head-on, Arnold led a furious charge toward a pair of cabins that separated the fortifications, then turned his force headlong into the Breymann Redoubt's unprotected left flank. Dozens of shocked Germans dropped in the rush; countless others ran for their lives.

Arnold had just entered the works when a German soldier fired at him, striking him in the same leg he had nearly lost in the Quebec Expedition. Another bullet killed his horse, which fell and crushed Arnold's leg beneath it. As Massachusetts soldiers chased off enemy soldiers and burned British tents, Connecticut militiamen carried Arnold off the field. His left leg was ruined, but Arnold would not allow it to be amputated. Several agonizing months of recovery would leave it two inches shorter than the right.

By now darkness had fallen and the Second Battle of Saratoga had ended. At 1:00 a.m., with his army shattered, Burgoyne issued an order for the troops still on the field to withdraw. British and German losses for the day totaled 278 killed, 331 wounded, and 285 captured--roughly half the force that had ventured forth that morning. American casualties came to about 130. Burgoyne's dream of conquering the northern colonies for the Crown had clearly ended.
33 posted on 02/13/2004 12:45:48 PM PST by donmeaker (Duty is the most sublime word in the English language.)
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To: veronica
Bump for later. *EJ*
34 posted on 02/13/2004 12:50:14 PM PST by mattdono (Big Arnie: "Crush the democrats, drive them before you, and hear the lamentations of the scumbags.")
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To: MizSterious
Maybe they will miss and hit the upper west side next time.
35 posted on 02/13/2004 1:10:59 PM PST by cksharks (quote from)
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To: kaktuskid
Amen to that! This country is at a turning point. If Bush loses the UNITED STATES LOSES
36 posted on 02/13/2004 2:30:51 PM PST by marty60
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37 posted on 02/13/2004 4:09:52 PM PST by mattdono (Big Arnie: "Crush the democrats, drive them before you, and hear the lamentations of the scumbags.")
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To: veronica
Great article.

I would dearly have loved to see Dubya belt Mr. Russert ...

Me too!

38 posted on 02/13/2004 7:16:03 PM PST by livius
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To: livius
I would dearly have loved to see Dubya belt Mr. Russert ...

I'd like 5 minutes alone in a room with Terry McAwful.

39 posted on 02/13/2004 7:34:34 PM PST by Morgan's Raider
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To: veronica; OldCorps; whatevergurl
I think the dems are so desperate.Thay are also SO hypocritical they didn't have a proplem with Bill Clition running with his tail inbetween his legs to avoid going to Vietnam. I mean at least President Bush was in the Air Force, Cliton wasn't in the milatary at all!! Now that the dems are behind a candidate who was in the navy they are all pro-military and are saying that Pres Bush is disloyal to his country becuse he didn't go to Vietnam. Again just look what Cliton did during that time. Also, John Kerry has voted to cut down on the milatary in the senate! But I will say this,at least Kerry was in the Vietnam war, he fought for his country and saved a man's life. But when he came back form Vietnam he became an anti-war nut. He was with nutty antiwar hippies, like Jane Fonda who was a pro commei bic_h. He made speeches that where pro communist, anti american and, ofcourse, atacked then president Nixon,who was a very good president. I think the Dems will lose with Kerry if he is to be nominated. He is so full of himself and gives long winded speeches. He is also a big taxer who wants to repeal most of the Bush taxcuts which is just asking for bigger taxes. He voted on the first gulf war and this second one too, and he then starts to attack them both. WHAT A HYPOCRITE! I just think his recerd in the Vietnam war and in the senate will bite him in the ass when or even if he runs agenst President Bush this fall.

BUSH CHEYNEY '04'!
40 posted on 02/13/2004 8:00:42 PM PST by YoungCorps
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To: antiRepublicrat
We could expunge our names and SSNs.
41 posted on 02/13/2004 8:52:42 PM PST by gogipper (Judgement at Nuerenburg ...... Judgement at Baghdad)
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To: marty60
Adolph Hitler earned his medal in the "Great War".

This is not to say I am praising that "paper-hanging son of a bitch" in any way.

42 posted on 02/13/2004 8:56:05 PM PST by Redleg Duke (tStir the pot...don't let anything settle to the bottom where the lawyers can feed off of it!)
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To: chambley1
A note to all FR veterans - FAX a copy of your discharge certificates to the DNC and tell them to wipe their asses with them. ,p> But then they will.
43 posted on 02/13/2004 8:59:09 PM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: chambley1
A note to all FR veterans - FAX a copy of your discharge certificates to the DNC and tell them to wipe their asses with them.

But then they will.

44 posted on 02/13/2004 9:03:06 PM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: SJackson
BTTT
45 posted on 02/14/2004 4:31:59 AM PST by lainde (Heads up...We're coming and we've got tongue blades!!)
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To: machman
Should become a great pubbie talking point, Ask your rat friends what other great American War Hero does John F'in Kerry remind you of? Of course its Benedict Arnold.

Benedict Arnold's wound was legitimate though. :^)

46 posted on 02/14/2004 4:41:11 AM PST by #3Fan (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1073931/posts)
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To: veronica
So the left is employing Nazi tactics to try to paint Bush as a Hitler... its all too obvious to those of us who are rational and are not eaten with Algore envy and bitterness from the last election.

The spewings of Algore last Sunday in Tennessee is beginning to sound like the village idiot leading the villagers up to the castle of Frankenstein to confront the monster. If those on the left don't cool their jets a little... they're pushing this to the edge of violence.
47 posted on 02/14/2004 4:52:59 AM PST by Godfollow
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To: Redleg Duke
see # 14
48 posted on 02/14/2004 6:05:29 AM PST by marty60
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To: veronica; dennisw; SJackson; JohnHuang2; dighton; Sabertooth; Brian Allen; BenF; Nachum; Catspaw; ..
Un-and-anti-American Cohn-Kerry Shickelgruber McAuliffe Dashle Arafat Cli'toon one Muhummid Peter Clift George Rather Cli'toon two Ted Brokau Eleanor Totenberg Yasser Daschle Dan Stephanopoulos Maureen Jennings -- fascistic and high-honors graduates, every last one of the evil bastards, of the Goebbels School of Lying. [To those too damned stupid to know they're being lied to and/or too damned mean-spirited and/or greedy to care]

To one another, that is -- and to other "DemocRATS."

Thanks, V -- B A
49 posted on 02/14/2004 7:19:05 AM PST by Brian Allen ("I don't belong to no organized political party -- I'm a Republykin!" - With Apologies to J Robinson)
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To: YoungCorps
right on! i agree w/you!
50 posted on 02/14/2004 10:24:48 AM PST by OldCorps
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